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  • So this piece of fucking shit calls me a partisan Obama supporter. Like how dare I support the president. FUCK YOU CENK UYGAR YOU MOTHER FUCKER.

  • @DeepSouth16 OF COURRRSSSE!!!

  • Unlike Liberals, we Progressives are not sheep to any Party. Therefore, Obama or the Democratic Party are not automatically supported. Obama's Wall Street corruption are major turn-offs to us Progressives while Liberals make (weak) excuses for this corruption.

    Progressives are independent thinkers, not Party sheep!

  • 'your efforts'

    nobody watches you in iowa (i mean, i'm in des moines but still) and it's tough as hell to get counties to vote against the incumbent

  • @TheYoungTurks Cenk, I live in Iowa and went to the Democratic caucus. They didn't even ask me! They just assumed I was supporting Obama. It appears this may have been the case for my entire county (so perhaps the precinct chairs were improperly trained). I didn't think I had to tell them directly, but that appears to be the case. So, two things:

    1. The "uncommitted" vote is slightly underreported

    2. I am now going to county convention as "uncommitted." Probably won't go to State, though

  • Funny how the 99% movement only affects 1.5% of the votes.

  • @Gyohdon The occupy movement was not about voting uncomitted... Yes, Occupy Iowa tried to get people to vote a certain way... but that is because they are one group.

    How much coverage did Occupy Iowa get on the mainstream media? How is a group supposed to spread a message if the media ignores them?

  • @Gyohdon Yeah. 99% in a pretty much all-white, all privileged, conservative, evangelical moronic state.

  • @electronicoffee

    lolwut?

  • goes to show you how brainwashed or people will just run with the masses r

  • You cannot fight a demon, and another demon fighting the first demon, at the same time. You kill the more dangerous demon first with the help of the other demon. Then you go after the other demon.

  • is occupy wall street finally dead now? i haven't shit about them in the news lately

  • @jumar1281 Yeah looks like it, the powers that be seem to have used laws intended for another purpose (such as moving homeless people on) to stop the protests, which in my view is a complete abuse of the law.

  • @jumar1281 nah...in new york they are helping families by occupying houses to prevent them from being foreclosed

  • @Bigbnfgv

    this was my biggest fear, that the occupy movement would spend too much time being unorganized and the establishment would find a way to shut them down. in my opinion, unfortunately, nothing came out of the movement. I went to occupy chicago alteast 20 times, it was all for nothing

  • @jumar1281 i agree with you about the establishment shutting them down...it is kind of unfair to say all your effort was for nothing but i understand why you might think so..imo the only issues that should have been made central were the banksters and the money corruption in politics

  • Iowa doesnt have internet.

  • I wish it were possible to primary Obama and get a real progressive on the ballot but unfortunately that's not gonna happen. ALAN GRAYSON 2016!

  • @koryakapelinal333

    Feingold + Grayson in 2016? Or am I dreaming?

  • @STABxYOUxRAWR I would give my left arm to see that ticket. If the Paultards can have their draft movement, progressives should too. Draft Grayson, I say.

  • @koryakapelinal333 Hey, "Paultards" is a little harsh! I find that they're not stupid, just brainwashed. So, Paulbots?

  • @aaronpolitical Lol. True.

  • @aaronpolitical I will continue to call them cultists because no matter what the video, how far from RP its about, they show up to praise his name as a dang savior.

    Its fine if they believe in the same stuff as him, but the savior/messiah mentality is freaky and irritating and I consider them his worst enemy.

    Look at the ones who supposedly wrote those newsletters in his name without him knowing.

    Now members writing from his twitter account silly insults without him knowing.

  • @waltermh111 No objection to calling them cultists, not from me.

  • @waltermh111 Obama used to garner the same cultish following, but yet I don't like it neither.

  • @scamoosh Excellent rebuttal sir.

  • Maybe they heard you and just disagreed since they support the President. 

  • What kind of idiots are you guys? You will take a far far right candidate because you don't agree with a centrist? WTF is wrong with you guys? Are you drinking retard juice?

  • @fizXgirl314 Voting for uncommitted in the primary has no effect in the election, other than raising awareness, retard.

  • @DirtFlyer yeah, except everyone here is voting for someone else... retard.

  • @DirtFlyer I mean talking about voting for someone else... retard

  • @fizXgirl314 Why not talk about it? Unless you are some kind of blind sheep that just follows the democratic party over whatever cliff they drag you over, I would say that the only people with any kind of sense are the ones who question the extremely poor decisions Obama has made during his presidency so far.

  • @DirtFlyer Because I happen to be well informed on the issues (as should you btw if you are watching TYT) and I don't agree that every decision Obama has made has been bad. So far the only thing I strongly disagree with him on is the NDAA... otherwise, at least he's not pushing for more tax cuts for the rich and more wars on the backs of the poor and unemployed...

  • @DirtFlyer and hating on the gays, the poor, the immigrants. If you want to see what the Republicans are doing to this Country just look at Arizona, Wisconsin and Alabama. These fuckers have enacted draconian laws that would make genghis kahn proud. If you want what's happening in Arizona and Alabama for the entire nation then yes, go right ahead and vote (R). This time they won't just be sending the criminals over..

  • @fizXgirl314 LOL you obviously have not been paying attention. The only thing Obama has done with the Bush tax cuts for the rich is pander to his base, and continue them right along just as Bush has. We might as well call them the Obama tax cuts for the rich, he has been so weak on getting rid of them. We have expanded our involvement in shadow wars in Yemen, Pakistan, and outright wars in Libya....under Obama. Patriot Act...still going strong, no change. R U a conservative?

  • @fizXgirl314 Also, I never said anything about voting republican. I'm not sure where you got that idea. Criticizing the Obama administration is not the same as supporting the republicans, in fact, it's the blind sheep who support Obama no matter what decision he makes that are doing nothing but helping to make things worse. When he fucks up, you don't just lay back and say nothing. That's how FOX News treats the republicans. If you're looking for that shit try MSNBC.

  • That election was rigged, there are many eye witness reports that Romney did very poorly statewide. TYT should cover this ^^^^^^

  • @Tdepp13 There are several people who were there where they were counting the votes. It wasn't rigged you guys are crazy. There were cameras all over the place.

    This ain't Russia man. Voter fraud barely happens in the US.

  • @TOTCD I'm shocked really, because I thought we had democracy. Ron Paul had 24% entrance polling, Romney 23% Santorum 18%. One precinct had a "blackout" when the bag of votes was brought to the front to be counted, there were computer glitches, and reports of printed results that did not match the actual votes. In the old days, if an outsider was about to win the primary they would be assassinated (RFK) but now with computers I guess this is an easier way to keep the machine going.

  • @Tdepp13

    Amen

  • @Tdepp13 That is total BS. You guys stop with the conspiracies already.

    Ron Paul lost. The polls before the caucus indicated Romney was going to win.

    Dude seriously stop making excuses every time.

    He came in third with 21% which is very good. Now people take him more serious.

    Stop complaining already. Jesus. It's always some kind of conspiracy.

    No he lost, and don't be surprised when he loses in New Hampshire where Romney is leading him by 13 points. Bet you already have your excuse

  • I'm totally bummed out. And Cenk seems to be Obama's ace in the hole telling us that opposition is futile. Hating the message and the messenger.

  • I so... do not understand the american voting system... at all.

  • @myrkvargkjetter you and 312 million other people.

  • @myrkvargkjetter that's not the US voting system as I understand it but the internal voting of the party for their candidate for the upcoming election which they can to some extend do the way they like it

  • @595o *sob* My brain hurts.

  • We could at least have one left-leaning 3rd-party candidate out speaking, injecting liberal values and facts into the conversation. Why isn't there one? Look at the level of visibility Santorum achieved with very little money or organization.

  • @rjw78741 I agree. There are so many of us deserving of this, but where is it? We are stuck with Obama? Give me a break.

  • and we'll wind up with an even greater degree of turncoat conservative legislative bullshit during his second term...wonderful. Maybe a Santorum presidency WOULD be the best thing for us right now because his manner and legislative decisions would be so awful and vile that even 'couch-democrats' would finally feel compelled to take the streets in protest. Then maybe we could get some real change in this country.

  • @argonaaut " Then maybe we could get some real change in this country. " What type of change are you looking for ? and how does 'couch-democrats' taking to the streets get you there ?

  • @MrSpencerport I could answer this question at length, but don't really feel inclined to do so at the moment, so I'll just highlight some of my opinions here. Historically--in America at least--left-leaning constituencies have had little say in the political process, at least at a national level. We've had only one truly liberal president throughout the entire span of the 20th and into the 21st centuries, and that's FDR whose decisions were incredibly important for changing the

  • @MrSpencerport fabric of the nation and which included taking a tough stance against the rapacious exploitation of workers and citizens by bankers and industry. FDR has been the exception to the rule as I mentioned however, and most of the 'liberalization' of society through political decisions(worker's rights, women's rights, minority right's and other rights etc.) has occurred because of the activism of populist movements, not the 'generosity' of politicians. Popular culture

  • @MrSpencerport in America in contrast to its' political culture, has tended towards liberalism. It's not really an accident that many of our most vaunted thinkers, writers and artists have been liberal--from Mark Twain to Bob Dylan etc. Young people are inspired by pop culture, and pop culture is the medium through which societal memes and values are disseminated. I'll assert that most of the 'liberalization' of our society through activism has come from the work and sacrifice

  • @MrSpencerport of young liberal people who really care about social issues. Many of the freedoms we take for granted today, came as a result of those sacrifices. That being said, we have a dearth of democrats who, while perhaps embodying a humanist spirit, are too complacent to really give a fuck most of the time…or perhaps they might be well intentioned, but are oblivious to the way shit actually goes down in our society. One example of the latter group might be democrats who

  • @MrSpencerport support Obama even now, despite his corporate pandering and total lack of leadership in these exigent circumstances. These are the so called 'couch democrats' I alluded to. In times good, we can all afford to be couch democrats, because after all, couches are comfy places to occupy. In times bad however, we're really playing with fire if we think we can sit on our haunches, put our fingers in our ears and expect our problems to work themselves out by putting some

  • @MrSpencerport handsome guy in charge who is a slick talker, wears a nice suit and pays compelling homage to our causes through words yet never through actions. And we's livin' in bad times.

  • *Sigh* if only Elizabeth Warren had decided to primary Obama instead of running for a relatively useless congressional seat...that would have made this election VERY interesting. As it stands however, we're going to be faced with the prospect of voting for Obama or one member of the Romney/Santorum/Gingrich 3-man sandwhich(establishment Republicans would never let someone like Ron Paul win). Given those options, most democrats will probably vote for the slightly less loathsome one--Obama,

  • @argonaaut Correct!!!!!!!!!!!! Van Jones and Elizabeth Warren should run primaries against President Obama and force him to energize his base.

  • @argonaaut she's running for a senate seat.

  • @argonaaut Primary against a reigning president of the same party? I guess it would be an embarrassment for the democratic party then, no wonder it never happened in the past (or did it?)

  • @595o Reelecting a Democratic President who is more conservative than Reagan and just a shade more liberal than Bush would be an even bigger embarrassment.

  • Good job, uncommitted voters!

  • I can understand Cenk wanting people to vote uncommitted (which is probably something I would be all for too if Obama was being primaried) but why would Cenk protest against Obama so close to the election when something like this could help the Republicans retain Congress, and potentially take the White House?

  • Your voting system is STUPID and complex, leaving room for CORRUPTION, and goes so long it bores the shit out of most people, while the retarded live for it.

    In Australia. We just vote once. We get one vote per person.

    NO FUCKING COMPLICATIONS, and NO CHEATS.

  • @baalisgod666 No complications? with STV!!??

  • @baalisgod666 If you are in the party then you also have the chance to vote for a chairman who in most cases would then become the candidate for an upcoming election?

  • Cenk don't feel down, the only people who showed up to vote in the Democratic Caucus were Democrats, it was basically a giant Obama pep rally from what I've read. I'm an Obama supporter but I think this was a good idea to send him a message, unfortunately it failed.

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  • Yeah Cenk regroup! There IS NO OTHER CHOICE! Republicans would DESTROY this country!

  • Props to admitting that you failed on this one.

  • @TinyMcLarge Look stick the constitution up your delusional ass. But on the issue of pollution WTF? Look kid how the fuck are you going to stop a polluter WITHOUT A LAW - you lot are out of your trees... And the regulations are delivered BY things like the EPA you crazy person. And the fascists are there BECAUSE OF THE LIBERTARIAN REVOLUTION 30 YEARS AGO - talking to libertarians is like talking to morons who were born yesterday... WAKE UP KID and dont be so effin gullible...

  • @StunnedByStupidity I'm sure calling that guy names will bring him around to your way of thinking... seriously this is why youtube comments have such a bad rep. Disagree sure but do not resort to name calling.

  • @PlayingGilly When you grow up a bit you'll understand.... (yes I know that's patronising - thought I'd reciprocate...)

  • Anarchists have taken over the entire Occupy movement. There may still be not-anarchists left, but their voice has been minimalized by the smelly hippies advocating against capitalism.

  • @Relyt22 Psst. Mister Beck, is that you?

  • @happyhippie1957 Just someone who was in support of the Occupy movement for a couple of months before realizing that the coldness of the winter has scared off all the well-to-dos and attracted the anarchists who have turned it into an anti-capitalist movement. Go to any discussion forum related to Occupy and I guarantee you it will be littered with self-proclaimed anarchists. The fact that this was unorganized in the first place, makes it no surprise that it's been hijacked.

  • @Relyt22 It was always an anti-capitalist movement, you just haven't been paying attention.

  • @bindlessMoredom funny, i went to occupy baltimore and only met one person who thought capitalism was evil. now i did meet a shit ton of people who thought lassiez faire capitalism was evil, but not capitalism as a whole. sorry, bro, but your argument falls apart under the lightest scrutiny

  • I think if you started earlier you would have gotten more uncommitted votes

  • @TinyMcLarge

    Like I said - you sound like a kid because you make no sense.

    WTF are you slobbering about PA for? Court case? Polluted town? What?

    Do you actually read what you write before you post it?

  • Watch tyt everyday and never heard about this..

  • I thoroughly enjoy a bit of Cenk (TYT) modesty.

  • What's "FAIL" is this video. I'm sorry but if you except something to work like people voting uncommitted you have to do more than announce it right before the voting happens. So it's not a failed idea, its just a new idea.

    Calling it a "fail" is discouraging and implies that doing so in the future is a wasted effort. I didn't even know there was a iowa primary for president worthless and I now plan to vote uncommitted when that neocon-in-a-liberal's-clothing is up for a primary in my state.

  • @WhirlingWolves cmon bro did u even watch the video? he never said that the idea was fail, he said that his effort was a fail, for whatever reason.. how is that so hard to get?

    -STOP.. before you make a response, re-watch the video..

  • @thechatpal91 yes I watched the video. And then I re-watched the video and I still stand by what I said. Calling it a fail IMPLIES that the idea is a failure. That's my criticism.

    I mean ffs the idea is brand new (to me at a least). If anything he (and you and I) should be encouraged that uncommitted got even almost 2% of the vote against president worthless.

    Hell for what seemed like a last minute idea against the incumbent corporatist scumbag named barry obama that's good news.

  • Fuck Obama I'm voting Green Party.

  • @GenTsoChicken1 Yep. You and me both. Voting for the Green Party is the only responsible thing to do at this point.

    But be ready for the propaganda backlash.

    The obamabots (and nearly everyone else) have drunken a veritable ocean of propaganda kool-aid and their ready to puke it back up on command with cries of voting for the "Lesser of 2 evils" which is propaganda and illogical screams that voting 3rd party is "throwing your vote away" which is Bandwagon propaganda.

  • @WhirlingWolves @GenTsoChicken1 You guys have the right idea.

    I'm also considering voting for Green Party if only because I feel I shouldn't have to settle for the lesser of two evils. To me, choosing the lesser of two evils is STILL a choice for evil; I’m not for that at all.

  • @Ojin0 The Lesser of 2 evils is a propaganda technique that is so common and uttered so often (including by TYT btw) that people mistake it for wisdom. It's not. It's propaganda. It's just a trick to turn us against our interests.

    So good for you for seeing through it. And yes you're right. Voting for the lesser of 2 evils by definition means you're still voting for evil. Don't vote for evil! How hard is that? It's VERY hard actually when you've been brainwashed to do it all your life.

  • @WhirlingWolves Couldn't have said it better.

  • @GenTsoChicken1 Huh? Does the US have a parliamentary system now? (I meant where the highest power is partitioned between parties based on direct votes)

  • Kim Jong-il won 99,95% of the vote in North Korean parliamentary elections!

    .

    Again the Korean people shows its' unified power under the Great leadership of the Dear Leader!

  • This is a clear sign that Obozo and Cenk are BOTH EPIC FAILS! Obozo WILL LOSE to Sarah Palin in 2012!

  • @ecwaufisxtreme

    Really, you think people will go for the write in Palin vote, interesting take. That would make history twice over.

  • @ecwaufisxtreme uh...shes not running... hard to lose to someone who isn't even playing the game. have you been paying attention?

  • @MUTT1126. ecwaufisxtreme has been paying attention and knows that Sarah Palin isn't running for POTUS. But since ecw is a Palin plant and gets paid very well to spew her crap for Palin on every TYT video she refuses to accept that ecw works for Palin becuase she's too stupid, high and drunk to get a real job and this scares her to deat becuase she knows that one Palin drops out of the public spotlight she'll be out of a job

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  • @MUTT1126. ecw is also a dyke, crackhead, alcoholic, femi-nazi, KKK member, psycho, coward and liar.

  • People are fucking terrified of the Republican candidates on show; Obama may be a hard unforgiving shag, but its better than a Republican rape that gives you AIDS.

  • Reminds me of the Russian elections where Putin got 140% of the votes.

  • @iippo06 He even won with 100% in the opposing candidate's houses. Truely amazing!

  • @iippo06 Putin won fair and square. Don't listen to the Zionist media.

  • @iippo06 I voted for Putin 147000 times, because he's just that great.

  • @iippo06 ...how the fuck does it even remotely compare to that?

  • @iippo06 don't wanna be an ass but it was 146% to be precise.

  • @iippo06 how do you get 146%?

  • @tylerguy12 by being Russian lulz

  • @iippo06 And when was that again?

  • @iippo06 Wait what?

  • @iippo06

    Right, because we know Obama would send his surrogates out to rig a rinky-dink Iowa caucus that didnt mean anything since he ran unopposed.

  • @iippo06 get ALL the votes!

  • @iippo06 It was either that or you would receive a knock on your door and never be seen again. :)

  • This Republican presidential nomination race has been as self-destructive for the party as it gets.

    .

    Thank god for their zealous individualist nonsense, or else we might have some fascist in the White House outlawing everything non-Christian.

  • @underbjorn

    Thats what we said about the democratic primaries back in 2007, 2008. Remember. It was so destructive and John McCain won the nomination months before Obama. It didn't really make much difference either way though.

  • When Bush became president, who voted him into office? obviously not us, it was the Electoral college, a group of men who thought his dad was awesome cause he blew shit up. He got only electoral voted in twice!! Injustice!!!

  • @Tenchi10 You obviously don't have a clue of how US presidential elections work.

    You have to win the state dude.

  • @Tenchi10 Actually it was the Supreme Court----at least the first time around.

  • Actully, after watching the " AKA Political Scene " for over 30 Years, I feel Obama will be Re-Elected. Republicans will have to wait till 2016.

  • @RustArtRed

    If Obozo gets re-elected, count on Sarah Palin being our next POTUS in 2016!

  • @ecwaufisxtreme HAH! HA HA! HAHAHAHAHA! HA! HA! HAAAAAAA... right. remember, you have to have majority support to be elected president. palin doesn't and hasn't ever had that.

  • @ecwaufisxtreme Then God Help us All ! Palin ? Really ? She needs to stay at an Alaska School PTO Meeting ! LOL

  • Barack Obama is a failure

  • @TinyMcLarge

    How old are you - 13?

    You make NO sense.

  • Obama will win by default. was hoping something would challenge him because he is not a liberal. if anything, he is a moderate Republican, but so is everybody else. makes me sick.

  • @inrrivas Moderate? I believe this country's citizens has been desensitized by the extreme.

  • @kingkong8974 its everybody. the democrats have made a huge stride to the right, the people believe its the left's fault and either we make more strides to the right and die or finally Obama steps it up and challenges that (won't happen most likely). essentially, the people voted everybody in so yea you are right

  • Obama will be reelected, get the FUCK over it already!!!!

  • @TinyMcLarge

    Since when did the EPA tell a citizen to "shut up" when they complained about pollution???

    Give some facts.

  • @TinyMcLarge

    So sad that so many ppl are goose-stepping behind candidates carrying a banner for smaller govt & claiming they have the interests of the ppl by cutting regs.

    They're only interested in profits for lobbeyists, CEO buddies and their companies who want to stick it to the public.

    Get back on your hamster wheel - you'll get farther there than you will with Ron Paul.

  • @Candyliz2003 Funny you bring up goose stepping Ron Paul wouldn't have signed NDAA indefinate detention and torture.

  • @Holmes1313

    I am VERY disappointed in that.

    But how do you know Paul wouldnt do the same?

    Many of us are disappointed that GITMO is still operating and wonder why there hasnt been deeper investigation of the financial collapse - I often wonder what would happen to the best of us if put in the presidency - and I believe Obama is one of our best.

  • @Candyliz2003 I can't say for certain what anyone would do but I do Know Paul is a man who has been sending the same message for years.I find Obama not to have that consistancy or the character to stand up for the things he said he does that got him elected.Do you think it's a coincidense he won't decide on the xl pipeline til 2013.If you beleive in indefinate detention without trial and torture you are pure evil.Actions speak indefinately louder than words.

  • @Holmes1313

    Obama cut taxes for those who actually needed it, got Bin Laden + a bunch of other AQ, got rid of DADT and followed thru on getting us out of Iraq.

    The pipeline is a stupid idea and he's very smart to be using it for negotiation - I just hope he squashes it eventually.

    I'm "indefinately" NOT pure evil (lame).

  • @Candyliz2003 Got rid of bin laden? We (the CIA) created aq.The war in Iraq will never be over.We have an embassy that cost 750 million.with tons of contractors"mercs"and if you think we the usa don't do secret military operations all over the world that kill inocents to protect investments you are asleep.I never said you were pure evil unless you are confessing you beleive the gov should be able to indefinately detain with out trial and TORTURE then you are pure evil.

  • @Candyliz2003 Obama cut taxes for those that he needed VOTES from, not for our economy, because they've printed 6 Trillion plus loaned out 90+ trillion to the banks in short loans which have only devalued the currency, you are living in illusion. Bin Laden was captured & killed back in 2004 by Pakistanis, notice you saw no body plus so many conflicting stories? We still have 16,000 in the World's largest embassy in Iraq, left? yeah right! And 8000 are mercenaries. TRUTH, FACTS

  • @DavincisClock

    I suppose you're a Truther and a Birther and you believe we never landed on the moon and there were other shooters in Dallas.

  • @Candyliz2003  There were other shooters in Dallas. Watch the films and listen to the audio broadcasts that day. The rest I agree with.

  • @Candyliz2003 you first know power when you have power! everybody changes when they get to the white house! and no 1 man cannot safe everythung, how will he create millions of job?

    Jobs are hard to find, what do you do?

  • Anyone who COMMITS to Obama needs to be COMMITTED to an insane asylum. 

  • I have to give kudos to Cenk for admitting his fail. OHYEAH! Most right wing talkers would just pretend it never happened.

  • Not surprised at all. TYT doesnt represent anything outside of Commiefornia. The country is not progressive, people support gun rights, no one cares about OWS, the majority of Americans are moderates not republicunts or democraps, and no one gives two fucks about your little show..DEAL WITH IT

  • @DaytonaRoadster Actually if you look issue by issue, most Americans ARE progressives. And progressive is pretty close to the center of the political spectrum anyway.

  • @DaytonaRoadster lol someone's mad

  • @DaytonaRoadster Yeah sure, unless you ACTUALLY ask them issue by issue. Also if no one gives two fucks about this show, what the fuck are you doing here making your stupid rant on a show no one gives a fuck about ?

    Don't waste your precious time and happily fuck off you jackass

  • Thanks for going out your way to share...Cenk

  • @TinyMcLarge

    The Bill of Rights covers NOTHING you're talking about. It covers what govt can and cant do to individuals.

    Re. slavery - look up the Corwin Amendment and consider that laws are often enacted because there are those who will do something just because there is no law prohibiting it - hence Civil Rights act.

    Do you remember pollution prior to the Clean Air and Water act and est. of the EPA?

    I remember when they declared Lake Erie "dead" and breathing was BAD in LA.

  • @TinyMcLarge

    Really? You believe corporations will respect individuals?

    There was nothing in the constitution re. women voting, civil rights, nor abolishing slavery so we had an "amendment" as necessary.

    Paul has talked about Civil rights being govt over-reach as well - do away w/ that and watch how fast we return to Jim Crow in certain areas of the country.

    AZ is on their way there.

    You Ronulens are like a pack of rabid hamsters - you have no idea how silly and DUMB you look & sound.

  • @Candyliz2003 They are ignorant

  • @bonnevie9

    ... and frustrating!

  • @Candyliz2003 and selfish

  • @Candyliz2003 I may not be a Ron Paul supporter, yet, but you seem to have a lack of understanding of social evolution & how we all consciously connect to one another. I think what the other people in this thread are trying to tell you is that you are too fixated on big government to fix problems that are evident due to our individual awakening to the changes we all need to make in our own lives first. It certainly starts from within. Do not be fooled by the brainwashing Liz.

  • @DavincisClock

    The other people in this thread don't even know the history of the govt depts they scream about let alone what they actually do.

    Foolishly I tried to enlighten them.

    Seeing your moniker I had hope - then I read your previous post.

  • I'm glad this failed, I was against it from the beginning, as you well know from my comments. It would have given the media red meat, the republicans red meat to do nothing but attack Obama, as if they needed more than they already have. The pressure you desire has come from the Occupy movement and will continue to come from this movement. God forbid Romney or any of the other clowns takes the White House due to clownish acts like this failed one.

  • @Boomer1949 Your right. Obama should just cancel the election and not risk a democratic vote at all. This is the natural extension of your logic.

  • I cant believe people would still vote this guy in.

  • I don't think this is a Cenk fail. It's an Obama win. Also, for what it's worth, I saw those numbers on msnbc the day after the election, so they were being reported...at least by msnbc

  • 98.5% of the vote?

    That was just a tad more than the overall Black, (err...."African-American"), vote for Obama in the last election.

  • you got over one procent of them, thats still something

  • - Conspiracy theory spoiler alert -

    Looking at the republicans candidates I can't stop thinking that they took the worse, the most idiotic candidates they could find, to ensure Obama's re-election and keep on blaming him for all that is going wrong, plus, make him approve the law they like, and apparently he likes as well.

    I mean, as much as I don't agree with half of the things that Ron Paul says, he is waaaaaay better than all the other candidates put together.

  • @ChristianIce If another idiotic Ron Paul opens its mouth again I'll SCREAM. Look buffoon the last 30 years have been A LIBERTARIAN revolution - Ron Paul has drunk the fucking kool aid given out by these SCUM. Just like they PRETEND they are democratic, the elite PRETEND they are for free markets. Now they are against REAL democracy because it will undermine their power and wealth. They are against free markets because THEY ARE BAD FOR EVERYONE -they are FORCED on the poor to KEEP THEM THAT WAY!