I can't believe I voted for this turd (Obama). I read his book and this man loves power and thrives off of it the same as Bush did. Never again will I vote for a Democrat or Republican who doesn't give a shit about the Constitution.
If you don't like Obama, trust me you will not like his healthcare reform. The only sane alternative is medicare for all (House Resolution 676). If you would like to learn more, look at my favorites, or research Kucinich and 676. Kucinich and Nader, the only admirable politicians.
molloyx - I really don't see your point. Democrats and republicans are just 2 sides of the same coin. Democrats push through what the republicans can't.
Like when Clinton pushed through NAFTA, which is largely to blame for the massive job loss here and in Mexico. NAFTA is the main reason immigration has increased exponentially the last 10 years. Dems. also passed welfare reform and have help lead the attack on the working class. They are playing good cop bad cop and we lose.
Does any serious minded person believe that Gore would have sent arch-conservative automatons like Robertson and Alioto to the Supreme Court? That he would have, like Cheney, huddled in secret with energy barons as Cheney did? That he would have surrounded himself with neo-con war hawks like Rumsfeld, Cheney, Wolfowitz and Feith? That he would have chosen a glib proto fascist like Gonzalez to head the dept of justice? Not bloody likely.
Nader was by no means entirely to blame. Gore ran a lousy campaign, the Supreme Court was in the bag and much of the electorate bought the Dolt from Crawfords ridiculous Humble Cowpoke routine. That said, Naders campaign was largely built on the notion that there was no real difference between Bush and Gore. Now we well know how great that difference was and that the Nader campiagn was built upon an egregious and narcissitic lie.
Nader, historically an heroic consumer advocate, lied to the electorate, for entirely narcissistic reasons as far as I am concerned, when he indicated a Gore presidency would essentially be no different than a Bush presidency. He is entirely culpable re the misery of the past 7 years.
NO ONE in 2000 could have predicted 911 or the Iraq war. From his vantage point then, Nader could see what is MUCH more APPARENT to us now. BOTH parties are bought and sold by the same special interests: Big oil, military industrial complex, the medical industry, etc.
If all of this were not so, then the Democrats would have done their DUTY to OPPOSE the war, OPPOSE the "Patriot"Act, DENY ALL funding for the war, OPPOSE the Telecom Immunity Bill. They are the other half of the problem.
DEmocrats have got to stop scapegoating Nader and look at their own failings.
1st Bush's claimed foreign policy b4 9/11 was a based on being against nation building as Ron Paul said, which was a platform he supported taht was never followed through
2nd don't be so sure Al Gore wouldn't have gone into Iraq as the CLinton/Gore administration bombed Iraq, & Gore had war hawk Lieberman as his VP who supports the Iraq war
3rd Democrats & Republicans both will incraese military spending
Wait to see the complete 180-degree turn next year if a Dimocrap gets the White House---suddenly the Right will be screaming about the Constitution and limited powers and rule of law---YUH, dem are good ol' Repuglican virtues....
Ralph Nader is the only voice of reason in a sea of confusion. I hate my government. I love my Country and it's real citizens. I will do what i can to stand up against the fascist State that is US Gov't
Naders analysis of corporate malfeasance is usually dead on. His consumer advocacy has been heroic. Period. That said, he is also utterly blind to present day political realities and the art of the possible. That is, unless you believe that a Gore administration would have behaved much in the same way as the Dolt from Crawfords adminsitration has in fact behaved. The queastion becomes; what did Naders run in 2000 accomplish.
What you and so many who complain about how you think Nader ruined Gore and how awful Bush is because of it DON'T see is:
It's taken a fiasco like the 8 years of Bush for more people to wake up and see that the things Nader was saying in 2000 and the things Ron Paul is this year are TRUE.
Nader said that the 2 big parties are like a 2 headed monster. If Bush is so bad and the Democrats so good, then why didn't they try to stop his illegal war and his assault on civil liberties?
RPR. We agree it has been a fiasco. We agree, I suspect, that Paul is dead right about Iraq and FISA. As for the Democrats being unable to stop this 'illegal war' this is true because they simply dont have the numbers in the House and Senate [ not enough to stop fillibusters or over-ride a veto, w/ a razor thin Senate majority]. I am confident this will change November, as the Republican brand has been badly damaged. Great news, eh?
The Democrats haven't even tried to mount an opposition. A lot of them like Obama voted with the Republicans and gave Bush what he wanted with the Telecom Immunity Bill.
That's why I'm fed up with Democrats as well as the Republicans. BOTH parties are WORTHLESS and are controlled by ALL the same special interests. They BOTH are going to run this country deeper into debt and make things worse. The Democrats aren't going to do anything to upset the status quo or make any real changes.
RPP. I am not thrilled by Obamas 'complex' position on FISA [ he suggests we read the fine print]but nonetheless I am not about to make the perfect the enemy of the good and allow McBush to claim the presidency. There are stark differences between Obama and Bush re Iraq, energy policy, tax policy, health care, foreign policy, immigration and 'stripper vouchers'.
McCain and Obama differ on issues, but BOTH of them are just mainstream politicians that are beholden to the SAME special interests and ruling elites that control BOTH parties. I am done with BOTH
This country NEEDS a REVOLUTION; a re-awakening of consciousness where we ALL, left and right, band together and take down 2 big Parties' hegemony over the system and bring REAL change.
The Democrats did little oppose or stop Bush, the war and the erosion of liberties. They are ALSO 2 blame
I hope this wakes people up to Obama's insane interpretation on the constitution and our rights. A vote for Nader means a dem can't trounce all over the public's rights and still get their vote because of the D beside their name.
The clear voice of Ralph Nader is crucial to presidential debate and discourse. We have a president who not only acts but at this point is above the law. If Obama does not speak clearly to this point, the next administration will step in and enjoy all these expanded tools of power. The rule of law is paramount.
Corporations are not citizens. As Ralph Nader would say, "they don't vote, they don't die in Iraq, they don't have children." The term "Corporate Citizen" is a perversion.
I'm sure you will be smiling and laughing when you are arrested without a warrant someday. I am sure you are a threat to the USA like the rest of us Americans?! Do you really want to lose all of your right? Corporation or not! This is insane. Obama votes for us to be listened to by our Gov. at any time? 1984. I knew it meant something back then when I read it.
I actually replied to a comment that seems to have been deleted. He said that the term "corporate citizen" is a real term and I replied saying that it was a perversion on what a citizen is. I whole hardly agree you and think that the FISA thing is a huge mistake.
Obama's vote against the rule of law and flagrant breaking of his promise to oppose immunity has turned me to some third as-yet undetermined candidate.
I sincerely wish that I could have viewed this video. I tried to view as soon I received your email alert ( very soon after it was sent). All I got was a blank, black screen with the message: "We're sorry, this video is no longer available."
On the news, I heard this awful news. The passage of this horrible bill definitely proves that we need to clean out all the corporations who lobby Congress.
I live in Maine and look forward to the opportunity to vote for NADER/GONZALEZ 2008.
6 - 20% of the vote would be a victory (huge progress!)and that counts! Just review the choices again. Pick your poison of choose and Independent, please.
You vote counts regardless. I am a SPOILER!
Spoil corruption, big oil, etc. Someone once said, I forget who, "no matter what you do you're always going to hurt someone".
I live in Texas where Nader has no chance of getting on our ballot. I wish that I could vote for him. Nader is the only candidate who has the courage to truly speak truth to power. I totally agree with what he says. Since I can't vote for him, I will have to abstain from voting. I gave up on the Democratic party when the Democratic Leadership Council (DLC) took over the party.
I agree with the others Beverly. Write Him In. Show up to vote and help preserve our right to vote. Just write his name in. That does count. The corruption is all becoming more apparent thank goodness. Probably another 20 years of Democrat to republican to Dem to Rep to Dem ..then it will end abruptly and I hope non-violently. Be attentive to everything your senses can take in when you listen to TV and watch radio about your Vote and do your own thinking.
I work for a larger American corporation, and our heinous CEO (who plays golf with Bush) gave a speech to us underlings recently in which he basically described Obama as a lump of clay waiting to be molded. This staunch Republican was positively GIDDY with excitement about Obama clinching the Democratic nomination...if I had even a smidgen of hope for Obama, it's gone now.
Nobody is above the law, unless you are George Bush, the Dick Cheney, or any of the other Capitol criminals who should be in prison for their treasonous conduct.
So Obama voted for this crap?! Well, not surprising really. He's tied to the CFR and most likely attended the last Bilderbirg meeting. His rhetoric is the obligatory deceit. Voted to fund the war in Iraq, hasn't taken the "Nuclear Option" off the table as he kisses the ass of AIPAC, supports King Coal and Nuclear Energy, keeps referring to Iran as BIG BIG threat (which they're not), didn't show up to the vote which named the Iranian national guard a "terrorist organization," and so on.....
Hurrah, someone who knows what's really going on!!The Bilderburgs, the Illuminati,The Skull and " Bonesmen"---they will kill all of us for one world government with the filthy rich ruling. He is a Bonesman and a member of their
secret society...look these things up everybody, and learn the truth.
I have never liked Obama. Ever since I saw him give a speech at the last DNC I didn't trust him. That was the first I had heard of him. He is definitely a centrist--I don't see anything leftist about him. I have never trusted centrists. Reminds me of the Democratic Leadership Council (DLC). Are they still controlling the Democratic Party? Is Obama part of the DLC?
I can't believe I voted for this turd (Obama). I read his book and this man loves power and thrives off of it the same as Bush did. Never again will I vote for a Democrat or Republican who doesn't give a shit about the Constitution.
tkabat66 3 years ago 2
watch the obama deception; ralph nader's videos should have way more than 5000 views
surfdude53 2 years ago
If you don't like Obama, trust me you will not like his healthcare reform. The only sane alternative is medicare for all (House Resolution 676). If you would like to learn more, look at my favorites, or research Kucinich and 676. Kucinich and Nader, the only admirable politicians.
GreekVegetarianRecip 2 years ago 2
If Barack Obama does NOT want to debate with Ralph Nader on issues like this...Barack IS a Coward! Period!
I will vote for Ralph Nader! Barack & McCain blew it long long long ago!
Modeltrainguy 3 years ago 8
Better get Nader on 50 states and allow him to debate against those crapitalists.
nrobnas65 3 years ago 12
molloyx - I really don't see your point. Democrats and republicans are just 2 sides of the same coin. Democrats push through what the republicans can't.
Like when Clinton pushed through NAFTA, which is largely to blame for the massive job loss here and in Mexico. NAFTA is the main reason immigration has increased exponentially the last 10 years. Dems. also passed welfare reform and have help lead the attack on the working class. They are playing good cop bad cop and we lose.
Vote Nader!
nowellian 3 years ago 6
Does any serious minded person believe that Gore would have sent arch-conservative automatons like Robertson and Alioto to the Supreme Court? That he would have, like Cheney, huddled in secret with energy barons as Cheney did? That he would have surrounded himself with neo-con war hawks like Rumsfeld, Cheney, Wolfowitz and Feith? That he would have chosen a glib proto fascist like Gonzalez to head the dept of justice? Not bloody likely.
molloyx 3 years ago
The republicans, the media, and the supreme court stole the election in 2000 and they have convinced people that it was Ralph Naders fault.
Ha ha, People need to turn off their TVs and turn on their brains.
Peace.
nowellian 3 years ago 7
Nader was by no means entirely to blame. Gore ran a lousy campaign, the Supreme Court was in the bag and much of the electorate bought the Dolt from Crawfords ridiculous Humble Cowpoke routine. That said, Naders campaign was largely built on the notion that there was no real difference between Bush and Gore. Now we well know how great that difference was and that the Nader campiagn was built upon an egregious and narcissitic lie.
molloyx 3 years ago
If you still support the democrats or the republicans you support imperialism abroad and tyranny at home!
Support Nader/Gonzalez for president!
nowellian 3 years ago 2
Nader, historically an heroic consumer advocate, lied to the electorate, for entirely narcissistic reasons as far as I am concerned, when he indicated a Gore presidency would essentially be no different than a Bush presidency. He is entirely culpable re the misery of the past 7 years.
molloyx 3 years ago
malloyx:
NO ONE in 2000 could have predicted 911 or the Iraq war. From his vantage point then, Nader could see what is MUCH more APPARENT to us now. BOTH parties are bought and sold by the same special interests: Big oil, military industrial complex, the medical industry, etc.
If all of this were not so, then the Democrats would have done their DUTY to OPPOSE the war, OPPOSE the "Patriot"Act, DENY ALL funding for the war, OPPOSE the Telecom Immunity Bill. They are the other half of the problem.
RonPaulRevolution4u 3 years ago 6
DEmocrats have got to stop scapegoating Nader and look at their own failings.
1st Bush's claimed foreign policy b4 9/11 was a based on being against nation building as Ron Paul said, which was a platform he supported taht was never followed through
2nd don't be so sure Al Gore wouldn't have gone into Iraq as the CLinton/Gore administration bombed Iraq, & Gore had war hawk Lieberman as his VP who supports the Iraq war
3rd Democrats & Republicans both will incraese military spending
0613162k 3 years ago 6
Wait to see the complete 180-degree turn next year if a Dimocrap gets the White House---suddenly the Right will be screaming about the Constitution and limited powers and rule of law---YUH, dem are good ol' Repuglican virtues....
Dionysos37 3 years ago
o bama is starting to smell like wet shit. if these crooked telcoms have nothing to hide..let them face the consequence of crime like the rest of us.
we need a spate of supreme court cases that have standing... the politicians are whores
primoabruzzi 3 years ago
Please watch youtube video entitled:
" Little guy stands up to BUSH. (see description)"
This is the action that Obama is refusing to take a stand against, aand the power he will inherit.
0613162k 3 years ago
I think hitler said if you have nothing to hide do not worry. Wake up and stop drinking Bud beer. Vote Nader.
rj2miller 3 years ago 2
Please watch youtube video entitled:
" Little guy stands up to BUSH. (see description)"
This is the action that Obama is refusing to take a stand against, aand the power he will inherit.
0613162k 3 years ago
if you have nothing to hide, there is nothing to fear...
right? :-/
solstiem 3 years ago
The question is, have you been betrayed enough yet?
How much betrayal will prove sufficient to make you stop enabling these the RNC/DNC, JM/BO, Good Cop/Bad Cop shakedown.
Never mind that you personally have been played for a sucker, stand up for the country and the next generation.
Nader/Gonzalez in 2008. This is the year.
jfmxl 3 years ago 3
Ralph Nader is the only voice of reason in a sea of confusion. I hate my government. I love my Country and it's real citizens. I will do what i can to stand up against the fascist State that is US Gov't
sonicspy79 3 years ago 2
Please watch youtube video entitled:
" Little guy stands up to BUSH. (see description)"
This is the action that Obama & McCainare refusing to take a stand against, and the power they will inherit.
0613162k 3 years ago
Nader Paul Kucinich Gravel
McKinney Ventura
TRUTH
Fisa IndyMac
RATM?
ryanshaunkelly 3 years ago
Naders analysis of corporate malfeasance is usually dead on. His consumer advocacy has been heroic. Period. That said, he is also utterly blind to present day political realities and the art of the possible. That is, unless you believe that a Gore administration would have behaved much in the same way as the Dolt from Crawfords adminsitration has in fact behaved. The queastion becomes; what did Naders run in 2000 accomplish.
molloyx 3 years ago
molloyx
What you and so many who complain about how you think Nader ruined Gore and how awful Bush is because of it DON'T see is:
It's taken a fiasco like the 8 years of Bush for more people to wake up and see that the things Nader was saying in 2000 and the things Ron Paul is this year are TRUE.
Nader said that the 2 big parties are like a 2 headed monster. If Bush is so bad and the Democrats so good, then why didn't they try to stop his illegal war and his assault on civil liberties?
RonPaulRevolution4u 3 years ago 4
RPR. We agree it has been a fiasco. We agree, I suspect, that Paul is dead right about Iraq and FISA. As for the Democrats being unable to stop this 'illegal war' this is true because they simply dont have the numbers in the House and Senate [ not enough to stop fillibusters or over-ride a veto, w/ a razor thin Senate majority]. I am confident this will change November, as the Republican brand has been badly damaged. Great news, eh?
molloyx 3 years ago
Molloyx:
The Democrats haven't even tried to mount an opposition. A lot of them like Obama voted with the Republicans and gave Bush what he wanted with the Telecom Immunity Bill.
That's why I'm fed up with Democrats as well as the Republicans. BOTH parties are WORTHLESS and are controlled by ALL the same special interests. They BOTH are going to run this country deeper into debt and make things worse. The Democrats aren't going to do anything to upset the status quo or make any real changes.
RonPaulRevolution4u 3 years ago 2
RPP. I am not thrilled by Obamas 'complex' position on FISA [ he suggests we read the fine print]but nonetheless I am not about to make the perfect the enemy of the good and allow McBush to claim the presidency. There are stark differences between Obama and Bush re Iraq, energy policy, tax policy, health care, foreign policy, immigration and 'stripper vouchers'.
molloyx 3 years ago
molloyoyx
McCain and Obama differ on issues, but BOTH of them are just mainstream politicians that are beholden to the SAME special interests and ruling elites that control BOTH parties. I am done with BOTH
This country NEEDS a REVOLUTION; a re-awakening of consciousness where we ALL, left and right, band together and take down 2 big Parties' hegemony over the system and bring REAL change.
The Democrats did little oppose or stop Bush, the war and the erosion of liberties. They are ALSO 2 blame
RonPaulRevolution4u 3 years ago 3
Thank you Nader. You are wonderful.
metalsuzy 3 years ago 3
Ralph has been a consistent voice for reason for as long as I can remember. I will write a check to support an attempt to see him in debates.
livnpeas 3 years ago 5
I hope this wakes people up to Obama's insane interpretation on the constitution and our rights. A vote for Nader means a dem can't trounce all over the public's rights and still get their vote because of the D beside their name.
burningice17 3 years ago 5
The clear voice of Ralph Nader is crucial to presidential debate and discourse. We have a president who not only acts but at this point is above the law. If Obama does not speak clearly to this point, the next administration will step in and enjoy all these expanded tools of power. The rule of law is paramount.
redwoodsforever 3 years ago 6
Please watch and share youtube video entitled:
" Little guy stands up to BUSH. (see description)"
Obama and McCain stood on the side of Bush against the little guy.
0613162k 3 years ago
actually corporations do have rights. corporate citizen is a legally term.
aliakbar01 3 years ago
Corporations are not citizens. As Ralph Nader would say, "they don't vote, they don't die in Iraq, they don't have children." The term "Corporate Citizen" is a perversion.
ArcticSlicer 3 years ago
I'm sure you will be smiling and laughing when you are arrested without a warrant someday. I am sure you are a threat to the USA like the rest of us Americans?! Do you really want to lose all of your right? Corporation or not! This is insane. Obama votes for us to be listened to by our Gov. at any time? 1984. I knew it meant something back then when I read it.
kristamckenna 3 years ago 2
I actually replied to a comment that seems to have been deleted. He said that the term "corporate citizen" is a real term and I replied saying that it was a perversion on what a citizen is. I whole hardly agree you and think that the FISA thing is a huge mistake.
ArcticSlicer 3 years ago
Ralph offers REAL CHANGE.. Not false hope ! Nader for president !
orwellwaspsychic 3 years ago 6
I love Ralph Nader!
0xHH 3 years ago 5
I wanna get that VoteNader tattoo on my neck, too... course I'd probably never be hired for any job ever again.... at least not in the U.S....
moyshekapoyre 3 years ago
Obama's out. In with Nader!
80jvc88 3 years ago 5
Go Nader, but doesn't Dodd's housing bailout include language that permits spying on online purchases?
pootron 3 years ago
Right on Ralph! 4 more % and he's in the Google debate. Support Ralph Nader for real change!
thegreenmercenary 3 years ago 6
Obama's vote against the rule of law and flagrant breaking of his promise to oppose immunity has turned me to some third as-yet undetermined candidate.
martensjd 3 years ago 4
Please watch youtube video entitled:
" Little guy stands up to BUSH. (see description)"
Bush and McCain have joined Bush against the litte guy. They stand for corporations not people.
0613162k 3 years ago
I sincerely wish that I could have viewed this video. I tried to view as soon I received your email alert ( very soon after it was sent). All I got was a blank, black screen with the message: "We're sorry, this video is no longer available."
On the news, I heard this awful news. The passage of this horrible bill definitely proves that we need to clean out all the corporations who lobby Congress.
BeverlyBoling 3 years ago
Nader has my vote.
Homer177 3 years ago 3
I live in Maine and look forward to the opportunity to vote for NADER/GONZALEZ 2008.
6 - 20% of the vote would be a victory (huge progress!)and that counts! Just review the choices again. Pick your poison of choose and Independent, please.
You vote counts regardless. I am a SPOILER!
Spoil corruption, big oil, etc. Someone once said, I forget who, "no matter what you do you're always going to hurt someone".
HedgeHocker 3 years ago 8
I live in Texas where Nader has no chance of getting on our ballot. I wish that I could vote for him. Nader is the only candidate who has the courage to truly speak truth to power. I totally agree with what he says. Since I can't vote for him, I will have to abstain from voting. I gave up on the Democratic party when the Democratic Leadership Council (DLC) took over the party.
BeverlyBoling 3 years ago 2
Write him in.
jumbowhite 3 years ago 2
You can always write him onto the ballot. It is your right to do so.
DisManAZ 3 years ago 2
I agree with the others Beverly. Write Him In. Show up to vote and help preserve our right to vote. Just write his name in. That does count. The corruption is all becoming more apparent thank goodness. Probably another 20 years of Democrat to republican to Dem to Rep to Dem ..then it will end abruptly and I hope non-violently. Be attentive to everything your senses can take in when you listen to TV and watch radio about your Vote and do your own thinking.
HedgeHocker 3 years ago 6
Please watch youtube video entitled:
" Little guy stands up to BUSH. (see description)"
Obama and McCain defended Bush's actions and will inherit these powers.
0613162k 3 years ago
I tried to comment this vid a couple hours ago and it wouldn't let me. Ralph Nader hit the nail on the head with this statement!
jacobpsweeney 3 years ago 4
I work for a larger American corporation, and our heinous CEO (who plays golf with Bush) gave a speech to us underlings recently in which he basically described Obama as a lump of clay waiting to be molded. This staunch Republican was positively GIDDY with excitement about Obama clinching the Democratic nomination...if I had even a smidgen of hope for Obama, it's gone now.
sookilee 3 years ago 4
but, but, change...
browncoatnola 3 years ago
This is an outrage, how much more of this can we take. Theres a breaking point for everyone.
whckzog 3 years ago 2
I do wonder if that is true for Democrats.
thisismyfunnyname 3 years ago
Please watch youtube video entitled:
" Little guy stands up to BUSH. (see description)"
This is the action that Obama & McCainare refusing to take a stand against, and the power they will inherit.
0613162k 3 years ago
Let's go people...put your support behing Ralph Nader! Vote for an end to corporate government sponsership by voting for NADER/GONZALEZ 2008
mfinley80 3 years ago 19
gravel kucinich paul nader
perot charts
truth
fisa...
ryanshaunkelly 3 years ago
Nobody is above the law, unless you are George Bush, the Dick Cheney, or any of the other Capitol criminals who should be in prison for their treasonous conduct.
shudderbug 3 years ago 16
Nobama - he's a corporate shill.
hsk01945 3 years ago 19
So Obama voted for this crap?! Well, not surprising really. He's tied to the CFR and most likely attended the last Bilderbirg meeting. His rhetoric is the obligatory deceit. Voted to fund the war in Iraq, hasn't taken the "Nuclear Option" off the table as he kisses the ass of AIPAC, supports King Coal and Nuclear Energy, keeps referring to Iran as BIG BIG threat (which they're not), didn't show up to the vote which named the Iranian national guard a "terrorist organization," and so on.....
8DoverNJ 3 years ago 14
Hurrah, someone who knows what's really going on!!The Bilderburgs, the Illuminati,The Skull and " Bonesmen"---they will kill all of us for one world government with the filthy rich ruling. He is a Bonesman and a member of their
secret society...look these things up everybody, and learn the truth.
Bone
Ashfurcat07 3 years ago
I have never liked Obama. Ever since I saw him give a speech at the last DNC I didn't trust him. That was the first I had heard of him. He is definitely a centrist--I don't see anything leftist about him. I have never trusted centrists. Reminds me of the Democratic Leadership Council (DLC). Are they still controlling the Democratic Party? Is Obama part of the DLC?
BeverlyBoling 3 years ago 4