Solving the 2006 IMO Problems: Day 2

[blancmange45]

anyone know where to watch whole documentary online

[rtmcgaha]

Why the fuck are y'all criticizin' 'em for doing something y'all can't? Y'all is so damn stupid. Learn something from 'em. Damn.

[ElSachinoo]

Aww don't cry! I'm sure you won't be cleaning toilets forever... actually I'm not :\

[Cammie010]

how long do they have to solve these problems?

[redhotkido]

can anyone become like this , or these people just born like this?

[sahiti321]

WASTE YOUTH.



[sicdiaz]

I used to be great in math...until the alphabet got involved!

[timoteomo3]

All of you that think you're as smart as these kids can go suck one. They are some of the smartest people in the world and you shouldn't go around mocking them.

[ion010101]

If an automechanic riffs on what they know about cars, it sounds just as baffling. When you speak a language every day all day for two years, like babies try to talk for the first two years of their lives all day every day, you will speak the language of math, cars, physics, computers, myths the same way you can speak english, with a fluency that makes others think you have a super power. This kind of learning doesn't take place all 12 years of school.

[ultimatecarsounds]

i just divide every thing by 0

[TomValedro]

this is upper secondary school maths and these ''prodigys'' are having problems with it? lmao

[joshinda1]

@TomValedro Nice spelling of "prodigies". You clearly aren't in a position to jeer at them.

[TomValedro]

@joshinda1 einstein was bad at languages too.

[GreekGeek94]

I can make farting noises with my hand

[deathtolltally]

Huh?

[1001014]

I think I understood the problems, and part of what they were saying at least. Anyway, I hate fucking tossers here who have such a malevolent attitude towards these kids who are obviously superior to them in intellect.

[TheXatheron]

@openuniverse2003 It sounds incredibly sad when the poor bicker about those above them...

[ashizdawg2]

@openuniverse2003 You're narrow-mindedness makes me want to puke. The fact that you would even post something like that, speaks volumes about yourself. These kids are amazing at math, and that's their passion. There's no correlation between being good at math and having sex. Most of these kids will be successful in various fields, probably more so than you. Perhaps their measure of success is not by the amount of people they have sex with, but by the academic feats they achieve.

[openuniverse2003]

NONE of this shit will get you laid. You're looking at a bunch of future 40-year old virgins or 40-year old skid-row bums/heroin addicts. NONE of these fucks ever gets to have a decent life. It's cruel to put them through all this. Absolutely cruel. Like having trained organ grinder's monkeys tap dance for coins. The monkeys get to live a better life than these dumbfucks.

[OriginellerUserName]

@openuniverse2003 These people will rule your life, and you will be unemployed. Be nice to them

[openuniverse2003]

@OriginellerUserName These Asperger's losers will always need mommy to wipe their asses every time they poop. FACT.

[ElSachinoo]

@openuniverse2003 Be honest though. You're a dirty virgin with parental issues, and it's only your jealousy of these children who have achieved more than you ever will in your life that compelled you to write this comment! Now go make me a sandwich. Bitch.

[openuniverse2003]

@ElSachinoo No, you're wrong, as always, spico. The fact of the matter is that these turdlets are going to have to deal with real people in the Real World, eventually, and they will be completely helpless. They are going to be lucky to end up mopping floors at McDonald's. So sad.

[ElSachinoo]

@openuniverse2003 Wow.. if that's you're real concern, then you're way off. Career wise, they will end up as university lecturers, renowned experts in their field or fields medal winners (as Tao from the video did). Or else they will be researchers at a university, technology company or a think-tank, or they may work in government research / intel. If not, they will secure high profile banking jobs, modelling all of the mathematics behind such systems etc. Mathematics can take you anywhere.

[ElSachinoo]

@openuniverse2003 I am sorry that you are too short-sighted to see that - the people who end up cleaning toilets and flipping burgers are the uneducated.

[openuniverse2003]

@ElSachinoo And that's what you should be working on - right now. "Andale, andale! Arriba, arriba!"

[ElSachinoo]

@openuniverse2003 Pahahaahaha poor comeback. You couldn't argue with the same rationale as me - unlucky mate, you're at the bottom of the intelligence hierarchy. How's it looking down there?

[openuniverse2003]

@ElSachinoo I don't need a rimjob just now, spico, but thanks for asking.

[ElSachinoo]

@openuniverse2003 PWN'd. Faggot!

[openuniverse2003]

@ElSachinoo Jump for your Master, spic! Jumo, like a Mexican jumping bean! See who's been "owned"? LOL!

[ElSachinoo]

@openuniverse2003 Play to my fiddle, toilet cleaning illegal immigrant!

[openuniverse2003]

@ElSachinoo See how retarded you are, spic? You are my bitch, If you would like, you may crawl off to the nearest corner and cry.

[ElSachinoo]

@openuniverse2003 N'aww, the retard's getting angry. There, there!

[openuniverse2003]

@ElSachinoo You're too retarded to see that you're retarded. So listen up, spic.

[jvboy88]

you basically, have to be a prodigy at mathematics to to be in that team (USA IMO TEAM)

[DayAtRots]

and these aint even the smartest DAYUM SUN

[lifehappyful]

congradulations boys mathematicians!!!!!!!!

[quagmire444]

i go to a school with 2/3 foreign exchange students, and i a lot of them are chinese, taiwanese, japanese. I can say that they are not really smarter, but just more well educated. Math is practically forced down there throat in Asia. There are a lot of brighter students I know who would of dont exceptionally well with a more rigorous education like those offered in Asia.

[cloningprocess]

@quagmire444

Absurd comment.There are some problems in mathematics that require one to be smart. Would repeatedly teaching an average student Riemann geometry eventually lead to him/her getting it?By the way, it's "would've and not 'would of"

@KatiushaVN4

To be fair, a comparison with China should start from 1985. From that year till 2010, they've won 113 gold, 26 silver and 5 bronze medals, winning position 1, 16 times(10 of those with all team members getting gold medals)

[quagmire444]

@cloningprocess first off dont correct me on grammar its fucking youtube no one cares how good my english is lol. and the answer is yes. plain and simply yes. some students are smarter then others. but asian arent naturally smarter then everyone else, there just given an education that focuses more greatly on mathematics.

[cloningprocess]

@quagmire444

First off , don't tell me what to do.and how to respond on youtube..no one really cares..lol

Again you make a claim you cannot support with evidence or at least a general warrant that explains why you make the claim that you're making here.

[quagmire444]

@cloningprocess this is a claim based on observation, if your offended by it i dont care. i have multiple people who can attest to my claim as well. get over it.

[cloningprocess]

@quagmire444

Easy with the "IFs" :). You're again making an unsubstantiated claim about my feelings :). Why would I be offended when I know I'm right :) ? The results of the IMO from 1985 invalidate your claim.Your come-back line is not even a valid argument. Many people used to attest that the earth was flat...it still didn't make it the truth. Until you come up with a claim that you can support , it's pointless to continue on this trail.Case closed.

[quagmire444]

@cloningprocess wtf are you talking about lol. r u really getting this upset about a statement that asians arent smarter? get a life.

[cloningprocess]

@quagmire444 You've finally run out of something sensible to say and now fast drifting towards insults and profanities :)

Seriously man, you could've at least used your energy to attempt to present a decent argument...lol.

[quagmire444]

@cloningprocess dude do you realize your compiling a complex argument against me about something as stupid as my comment about asians? lol im not gonna waste my time providing argument that i spent hours researching like you about something as stupid as this.

[pimpcheeseit1]

And we get pussy lol nah jk

[dmanc1]

If Zach Abel is related to the great Norwegian mathematician Niels Henrik Abel, he comes from a great mathematical lineage.

[ericown]

english pls?

[NinjaXSong]

lol North Korea got disqualified this year

[Aversity6]

they look so young -.-x

[burnit01]

Are they speaking english?

[NinjaXSong]

These problems aren't overwhelming, like you never knew how to do this. Even the least trained people in math can understand the meaning, and try different ways...No one is stupid. No one is smart. Only hard work will determine if you will be praised.

[iwantram3n]

Brilliant, profound...but may I say just three words?

WHAT

THE

FUCK?!

lol but anyways, in spite of the fact i was thoroughly confused throughout this entire video, i still watched the entire 9 minutes and 33 seconds for some odd reason...i guess it was my unconscious respect/awe for these young mathematical prodigies lol

[toppinzr]

I got the last one, with some help.

[angela1894]

The indian dude is Arnav Tripathy, and he has won the Putnam competition 3 times, he should win it again this december, which would make him one of very few 4-time winners.

[abhinavc]

Wow!! Didn't understand a word but loved listening to these kids anyway.

I also loved how frank/modest they were about their own abilities and generous about others

[sexbestia]

@abhinavc I beg to disagree. I think these are all smart guys and I admire them, and wished I could be like them. However, I do feel Arnav is kind of conceited.

[dmanc1]

@sexbestia I sense that also.

[boonsonsucksballs]

so do i, arvav is so arrogant

[angela1894]

@boonsonsucksballs No he isn't, you don't know him personally.

[Muki13]

do these guys actually think they are some what smart?

[michaelw2711]

polygon not polynomial zach abel.

[PrinceOfLogic]

Number 6 was the real killer!

[llamasownyou]

The idea is to smooth the edges until all the sides are parallel... well, the opposite edges anyway.

[gaussian]

I feel like an idiot.

[ConnectTiw]

@gaussian me too :)

[angela1894]

Arnav Tripathy (the indian dude) was easily the smartest of the bunch

[ihateuutube]

@angela1894 Wrong. Zhai is the best here based on his USAMO and qualification results. He had a disappointing IMO but was only a sophomore here. He would win golds his next two years and even produced a perfect paper as a senior.

[angela1894]

@ihateuutube

It's true that Zhai had a good IMO record (arnav only qualified twice), but I still think Arnav is the best because he's become a putnam fellow three times in a row, and he's looking to repeat the feat later this year. This will make him the 8th person to have ever won the Putnam 4 times since the 1930s. Alex Zhai, on the other hand Alex has had two chances to take the putnam (2008 and 2009) and didn't crack top 5. I think putnam is a better indicator of ability than IMO.

[bodwisa]

@angela1894 On what do you base this ridiculous assumption? The Putnam contest gives students 3 hours to do 6 questions while the Olympiad is a 4.5 hour contest containing only 3 questions. This clearly means that the Olympiad questions are far more difficult and demanding of deep thinking than the Putnam contest. It may be that your friend Tripathy is more comfortable and adept at easier questions requiring less time than Zhai, who is probably more of a slow-but-deep thinker.

[bodwisa]

@bodwisa Hmm, youtube format seems to have gone downhill since google took over. My second post appears before the first one instead of after. My apologies to those who may be reading.

[bodwisa]

@angela1894 Also, you seem to assume that the best student in an American competition is therefore the best in the world, which is obviously nonsense. Math competitions among universities take place in other countries. But the Olympiad is a global contest that pits the best in all countries against each other. Therefore it is far more reasonable to say that the math Olympiad is a greater indication of intellectual prowess than Putnam or any other national competition among universities.

[KatiushaVN4]

Vietnam is number 1 in Asia in Maths

[TheOkanokazuya]

@KatiushaVN4 i don't think so, I'm Vietnamese but i think Japanese and Chinese are greater in Maths

[KatiushaVN4]

@TheOkanokazuya

We have earn more medals than both Japan and China in International Math Olympiad. And as you already know, recently prof. Ngo Bao Chau won a Fields Medal. Vietnamese is the second Asian winning Fields Medal after the Japanese.

[TheOkanokazuya]

@KatiushaVN4 oh yeah, Prof Ngo is our proudness. but China is always in top 3 of countries which have the most medals in IMO every year. about Japan, this country already has had 3 fields medals. so i think we are not the best in Asia

[FeelOfFriction]

The long haired kid is socially immature.

[angela1894]

I believe these kids who do well on these math olympiads might be the smartest people on earth. I know IQ tests are more than just math, but I am sure that anyone that can do well on these math olympiads will have no problems acing an IQ test. All these kids in this video have at least an IQ of 180.

[sstokyo1]

i like the Facter IT

[solidysnake1]

A lot asian indians in America are so egotistical.

[partonfilaton]

long live those people.if only i were that gifted i mathematics

[pochankitty]

Where are these kids now? All at MIT or something? o.0

[Arycke]

No, a more prestigious mathematics university: Harvard. I know for sure Zach and Arnav are at Harvard, idk about Alex and Zeb.

[sotatorfak]

Alex is at Harvard too and Zeb is at Caltech.

[AlphXanadu]

Isn't that guy in 1:40 (Arnav Tripathy) black?

[LogicalFlawDetector]

No, he is Indian. His parents were Brahmins from India.

I am from India too. The last name "Tripathi" is as old as the language Sanskrit is: goes back to the Vedic times of India.

[MrEinsteinz]

he's got indian parents. this comes on TV every once in a while. i've recorded it.

[BarriosGroupie]

Yeah, let's call in the affirmative action activists to get more Black people in lol

[xjuhox]

Great idea! And then lower the standards so that every darky who can hold a f**king pencil will have a golden medal!

[angela1894]

Big surprise, they're all mostly jewish, asian, or indian.

[MathLover314]

Indians are asian, as are jewish people (at least ones from Israel). It is impossible to tell wether a person is jewish by their appearance. Judaism is a religion, therefore, people of any race can be jewish. A person can be jewish and Indian.

[MrTakeAshot1]

these guys are nerds but lucky ones

[MathLover314]

I disagree, International Mathematical Olympiad members are NOT nerds.

[MrTakeAshot1]

MathLover314, should I agree with you then? Prove your point. Besides, I know better - I've studied with such sort of guys for 6 years.

[MathLover314]

Can you please define 'Nerd'?

[MrTakeAshot1]

MathLover314, nerd - foolish or contemptible person who lacks social skills or is boringly studious

[MathLover314]

Obviously these people do not lack social skills, or else they would not be in a group together. They are obviously not boringly studious either, or else they would not be trying to solve such interesting equations (especially #6, I love combinatorial geometry!)

[jarto10]

when you say that you know that sort of guys,what kind of experience are you refering to?

[merk2g]

yes DWEEB what are you fucking blind,go dip your way off a fucking bridge LMAO

[merk2g]

all this math talk turns my brain to mushhh....and fuck you in advance for those who are going to say something smart like oh merk3g its not our fault your dumb, to that i say FUCK YOU DWEEEEB!

[thedipmeister]

Dweeb? Really? Dweeb?

[Cagebreaker21]

Your spelt your name wrong....

[wazzita]

Mf actually I should be able to get this one, I'm supposed to be good at combinatorial geometry. Pause and here we go:

Haha, well I have homework to do, but I did find an equality case, if there was a centric point then the triangles defined by the bases and the center make up the whole area, and if you take the whole triangle (instead of the vertex being the middle point, you take one on the perimeter and make a bigger triangle) you get twice the area. Ah, I am a disgrace to all math students.

[wazzita]

Hah, but is 6 really that hard? You just triangulate the poligon and .... oh wait, then the sum gives you at least the area once, bah, never mind. Hehehe, I think I'll jut comment anyways.

[uniac]

haha, what do you mean pure american? white?

[AndiPitesti]

native american, born in America.

if you don`t believe me, search on internet for International Math Olympiad. you will see that USA has 2 chinese in it`s team, of course they were brought from CHina

[Newberer]

Except those guys spoke perfect English. Fail.

[AndiPitesti]

i bet you are from US;) look, i got negative votes for my posts from the americans =)) i don`t care they speak English, they are chinese

[Newberer]

Prove it.

[AndiPitesti]

prove what? that u are from US? it writes on your profile. or I must prove that they are Chinese? let`s say your name is Sam and your father`s name is James. if your father James and your motther Kate will make you a brother, then i`m sure he`s name won`t be Krishanu Sankar,QINGZHAO or CHUN-TAO and of course he won`t have rice-eyes.

grow up please, just admit it, it`s no problem

[Newberer]

Name means absolutely nothing. His parents might have given him a Chinese name in order to preserve their Chinese heritage.

His "rice-eyes" mean absolutely nothing. That's the structure of his DNA, that most likely came from a Chinese heritage.

To be Chinese, he had to be born in China. So, prove that he was born in China.

Also, while you're at it, prove that USA had bought those individuals.

After all, you're not some pathetic dumbass that would say stuff he can't prove, right?

[AndiPitesti]

yes, his mother came from China to US in vacation and she was pregnant so she gave birth to a child who, of course, will be american=)) sure

and think to another aspect: how many percent of your population is chinese born in US? maybe 0.01%? and as a miracle between this 0.01 %, some of them are genius, and they are selected to form the team of 6 members...so your 99.99% of other population what? just think of the chances. as I said, grow up and admit it. THE END

[Newberer]

What makes you think his mother is Chinese?

I do not know the percent of Chinese born in US, so I won't be a dumbass that tries to calculate the odds without even knowing the numbers.

I DO know that of 2007, the population of Chinese immigrants living in USA was 3,538,407 which is 1.2% of the total population.

Still, you haven't provided a single proof that he is Chinese OR that USA has bought anyone. Still waiting.

[Osimko]

The U.S. is a global country, with citizens from all over the world. You have the American citizenship - you are American. It's just a formality, we all are human beings, and that's what matters. The 'real' Americans are Native Americans anyway, I assume white Americans represented there are not Americans either, right? Doesn't matter when you moved to U.S., if it was your family 5 generations ago, or you 5 years ago, as long as you have the citizenship, you can participate.

[Newberer]

Another thing that I found to be strange is - when I looked at the 2006 IMO US team, I haven't found a single Native American Indian. That can only mean one thing - USA has bought every single team member from around the world, right? That would be the case if I were to follow your logic.

[MatrixMaster2]

I used to know Alex Zhai back in elementary school. We lived in the same apartment complex in Pittsburgh, PA and he was my good friend back then. It's good to know he's come a LONG way. He was practically better than me in EVERYTHING and i kinda looked up to him.

[angela1894]

I'm curious, was he just good at math, or good at everything else ??

[thedipmeister]

These people are amazing. Truly represent the best and brightest students of the US.

[nd1008]

Have you been in the IMO? I was in it the UK team last year, however I unfortunately didn't get too far but it was a great experience nonetheless.

How do you know about the IMO?

[thedipmeister]

I know about it because I've taken the AMC's (the first of a series of tests that determine the USA IMO team). I haven't been in it, but I've been training pretty hard, and it would be amazing if I somehow made it next year. If you're going to dream, dream big.

[JAZZSTARish]

@thedipmeister Right on...like Ray Charles said in the movie....''I'm thinking dollars man."

[amapmwt]

@thedipmeister how do you train tests? i only ask because id like to aswell. ive always been pretty good at math but ive had to study on my own independently since the schools i was at didnt offer higher math programs. any books or anything to suggest?

[Abdullah2009]

@thedipmeister How old are you?

[chrissline77]

@thedipmeister ..........Only one white kid. And no black kids. The rest are asian and indian. It doesn't truly represent the U.S.