UP 844 by Celilo 70+mph

[bbundridge]

Holy hell, 105,430 views!? Wow, thanks everyone!

[MatthewsVideo1]

Now that's haulin'!

[Bluemango123]

Now that's an EXPRESS.

[phelonyjones]

SWEET!



[arkansastrash320]

Damn that gives me goose bumps thats so cool loving the speed and power of 844 wow faster yet faster !!!!

[derail14]

seems they go faster without those crummy diseles in the consist.

[electron2601]

the 844 has more horse power then the big boy!

844 6600 HP

Up Big Boy 6290 HP

[tchnofile]

awesome!

[MrJkehl]

AWESOME VIDEO...

[skylilly1]

very nice!

[mquiroz90]

@skylilly1 how did they make it go fast back in the 1870s and 1900s it would go 20 mph

[7leprechaun7]

@mquiroz90 844 was actually one of the very last locomotives built by UP...in the 1950's.

[PereMarquette1223]

@7leprechaun7 The very last one, built in 1944.

[foroke1]

And a friend of mine thinks steam engines can't top 40....

[natochizmar530]

I thumbs uped this and subscribed great video

[jakelee16]

American Steam at its best. Awesome piece of machinery :)

[strangersound]

Oh yeah, this will go down in history as one of the best UP 844 videos. Awesome footage! :)

[chena3]

hot horses

that beast is flying ...

[nintendowii20001]

i dont think its going fast enough.......lol



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[anderberger]

WOW

[dwkcamman611]

Friggin' AWESOME!!! Love it!!!

[anb740]

I'm sure there was a steam engine in this video, but all I saw was a big, black smoking blur with some yellow stuff behind it! I'd say she was doing 79mph Amtrak speeds. Good luck trying to chase that on the highway.

[codybrock2345]

she went flying

[hadiazful]

Wat da hell just happen???

[Defiant47]

I got to ride behind the 844 through Wyoming and not only was she pulling a train with 21 cars, she had the 6936 and an 86' flatcar with another steamer on it for display. 70 - 80 was a breeze for her even with all that extra weight. The Centennial was only there for it's dynamics. The 844 is a total ass kicker, and this video is an instant fav.

[juggernogify]

Man she's go'n fast!

[flashperson]

who cares the exact speed all i know is that the loco is hauling ass and it looks damn good doing it

[nclemens]

By my calculation I get about 71 mph. Timing the loco and tender passing I consistently got 1.1 second. UP 844 with tender is about 114 feet. 114/1.1 = 103.64 feet per second = 70.66 MPH. Hey Wirerail, check your calculations, it's definitely NOT 90-100.

[Gunny761]

@nclemens Nice work! Also, I don't think most UP track is rated above 80mph anyway.

[Rocketboy1950]

great stuff

[LostOzarkRambler]

Great catch.

[wirerail]

That's about 750 to 800 feet of train in 8 seconds. So 90 to 100 MPH right there.

[MrAwesome1361]

NICE!!!

[shininghappyperson7]

hahahaha forget chassing that one!

[edystvumdb]

This is awesome!!

5*

[jdubbjazzbass]

totally amazing,nothing like steam!!!!!!!!!!

[badboylll]

many thanks for NOT turning and following 844=]

[nicholasbreeden]

@badboylll hey he recorded it didnt he?

[badboylll]

@nicholasbreeden thats what I was getting at. many people would have turned to follow the 844, but he didnt and im thankful.

[nicholasbreeden]

@badboylll oh I thought you were being sarcastic haha XD

[bbundridge]

@badboylll Oh I followed it from Portland to Boise, Idaho =P It was a great trip but this was the only location I wanted to get video of it at.

[huskyjerk]

Fast, like a Japanese loco on a straight away.

[wedge4hire]

Does this thing have four-wheel disc brakes??? There is no stoppin' this puppy!!!

[bestamerica]

no cowyboys are around this video

[maniacmarklewin52]

damb awesome great video

[vicsade2003]

Thats what i'm talking about !!!!

[espeeboy]

Now THAT'S a run by!

[Andreowia]

Super Train !

[sgtredbluered]

If we knew the length of the pullman cars, the locomotive and tender you can find, it goes by in about 8 seconds, it is smoking!

[bartybum]

was that ment to be fast? CAUSE THATS SMOKIN

[Trainlover12345]

She can move thats for shure. What an experience, surprised she didn't pull you under from the draft she puts off at that speed. haha just kidding.

[coolcatevan9]

Fast and beautiful!I like the units today but they just don't seem to be as good as the golden oldens!

[TrainSpotterX]

Great video !!!!

[FlyinBrian777]

Very cool vid, thanks for posting.

[thomasVSstewie]

Whoa. Watch 844 strut her stuff

[h1aa]

Just beautiful. Thanks.

[Deckerb8529]

That is so fast! Nice to see a steam locomotive without a diesel. It doesn't really need one anyway.

[Amtrak1194]

Never seen 844 with out 6936 or even an SD80MAC behind it! great to see it running solo!

[Jared1452]

What's 844's top speed again?

[Rodniferd]

This is so awesome - the majesty of it takes my breath away. Great Doppler shift, by the way.

[maddennis55]

UP used to run their steam locos upwards of 90mph in their time! So they have no worries of running them at authorized track speeds. For some great UP steam videos, may I suggest you go to (you tube) SkipW. He is with the UP steam crew!

[HorsegirlJenny]

AWESOME!

[844jim]

Big Daddy was hauling in this one for sure.

[neocon49]

This is one of the best train clips ever! Captures the overwhelming sense of size and power.

[2larvetta2]

Damn I Never Seen Train Go This Fast

[OakViewFilms]

Damn, 844 is haulin ass

[Buemmo]

Hahaha I would have even payed money for driving stem locomotives like the 844 every day. One of the best jobs I can imagine

[steveo928]

She likes going fast doesn't she.

[Jared1452]

She likes to stretch her legs.

[AmtrakTitan455]

Nice video! 844 looks great moving very fast.

[railfanatic844]

man, steam is still kickin it like it used to

[Saugertiesrailfan]

YAY!, finaly a steam excursion without a P42!

[deloreanman14]

Damn...she was movin'!

Nice to see those steam locomotives running without diesel assistance.

[josecarlosfarina]

Wau!...very good. note 1.000. The best,

you see my videos (movies) for trains?

[DeltaPhi79]

thats just awesome. Nice high quality shot and whistle.

[hihat101]

did anybody see extreme trains series with matt bown doing a special on 844 ?, one of the best yet!

[josecarlosfarina]

Very good. Beautiful. i like. I am movies of the trains. Thank you.

[theup3985]

He's screamin'!

[elmakiista]

oh my GOD ajajaaajaja

[sethallenevans]

Hell if amtrak would run like that than they would be doin good.....even if they could 844 would out run a P42 anyday haha

[AMTKnumber4]

Not sure where you live but Amtrak Southwest Chief does that everday and then some on its trip from Chicago to LA.

[crwi1983]

Well, she sure wasn't wastin' any time, was she?

[DanielVolker]

Well let's think, 844 has a 32 inch stroke (same as the 4449's) so with the 80" drivers, that means about 21 ft for every revolution. 5280/21= about 256 rpm's ton get a mile. Now, I couldn't see/count how many times her drivers revolved but probably about 75 MPH sounds right/

[itnbfzi]

@DanielVolker Oh yeah! I believe that! It's 20.934 feet per revolution. Had time on my hands so I did the math.

[Tanvan180]

@itnbfzi Yeah, and 70 MPH is 102.6 feet/ second, so that's about 4.9 revolutions/ second. I wish I had a high speed camera. I guess at 30 frames/ second, that'd be about 6 frames/ revolution.

[sniperjdp]

Nice catch there!!

[1984bobo49]

Some vids I've seen have a diesel engine behind this 844 and some don't. Doesn't look like she needs any help in this clip.

[kskcsfan]

When Diesels are put behind her it isn't for pulling the train it's for Dynamic Breaking since the steamers don't and can't be fitted with dynamics

[1984bobo49]

Ah, I see. Thank you.

[pantografo52]

Ottimo

[bnsf261]

now thats how shit gets done.

[Wonkawillie77]

Amen, bro!

[WhyAyeMann]

give that engine some wings, and it'll fly :)

[DeltaPhi79]

yeeaaahhh...............

[denelbh]

wow how fast

and if im not wrong it was climbing a hill

!!

beatifull engine

[Stetsonater]

i've never saw a train hit that since a NKP Berk did it in 1953 at Lima,Ohio

[1971Copperhead1968]

I've read that the NKP Berkshires would overtake passenger trains.

[ns2110]

That makes sense, with 69 inch drivers, they had a top speed around 70 mph.

[WildGuy00000]

844 has 80 inch Drivers

[1225dude]

oh yeah!!!!

[trainiac3]

that is fast

[7upFu]

steam engines are the best trains ever there so fucking cool

[DanielVolker]

Yea, probably not Salt Lake. She was built to do that trip in 10 hours.

[1966caprice]

ya i heard about that too but i heard it was 5 and 1/2 hours

[yerkees01]

Jesus Christmas, that sucker is truckin'

[SR722]

Highball!

[papabugs71]

Top speed for the 844 per UP SSI is 82 MPH. That is the max speed for the engine. Most subdivisions allow a max 70mph passenger train speeds.

[3254man]

So the FRA doesen't allow 844 to exceed 82 mph. An engine that can go 120mph.

[papabugs71]

I dont think the FRA has anything to do with it. Thats just the Union Pacifics' rule. The fastest they want any "special" train running is 82 MPH. (X-cept Amtrak). That includes the steam engines, the centennial, & the E units. I have been 70 MPH on the centennial & it was like flirting with death.

[3254man]

Fraidy cat. They used to pull it over 100 with 844. And it was like a normal thing to everybody.

[papabugs71]

HA!! I like breathing too much I guess.

[UPTRAIN]

@3254man

That's great, but the max speed limit anywhere on the UP today is 79 for passenger.

[wirerail]

@UPTRAIN only if someone is watching....

[MSTSFreak]

That's Fast!!!!

[SLSF1522]

Nice. That is the way that that locomotive was ment to move!

[bigtex144]

These are my measurents; From the time the front right of the loco hit the edge of the screen to the time the right rear of the tender hit it, I measured an average of 1.02 seconds with my stop watch (I did 5 tests ranging from 0.98-1.07 seconds, so it was fairly consistent). According to a brochure of the 844 I have, the 844 is 114'-2" long. So lets just say the train is moving at a speed of 115 feet per second. (continued in next comment)--->

[3254man]

The way you did the math was probably better than mine. But you calculated it based on how long it took each car to pass which is a lot harder to measure that the time it took the whole train to pass and then calculating how long the train is. If I overshot how long the train is then my math would undershoot how fast the train was going. I was only off by a few feet anyway. Oh well. Only god knows now since nobody clocked it there.

[bigtex144]

aaafd

[bigtex144]

Given 5280 feet per mile, divide 115' by 5280' to get a speed of 0.0218 miles/second. Then take that and multiply it by 3600 seconds (given 3600 seconds in 1 hour) to get a speed of 78.48 mph. Someone correct my math if I'm wrong, but it sounds pretty reasonable to me. That sucka's movin!!

[Hiei2k7]

I don't doubt it, that bastard can get up and haul ass. *FLASHBACK to 199...5 or 6 when the 844 went to Chicago, and after crossing the Miss river bridge at Clinton IA.*

Were Keeping Even with it right now. Speed is 71 MPH. In Illinois.

[3254man]

If the whole train is 615 feet long and it took 9 seconds to pass, then 844 was doing 95 mph and some wierd decimal that Rounded that from.

[FlyBikes089]

wow!

[3254man]

these are so much faster than that over ratted Mallard

[DanielVolker]

THANK YOU!!!!!  Someone else agrees!

[LNERMallard]

Looks more like 110 mph to me! That train passed the camera in 9 1/2 seconds!

[mtskidmark]

great runby...I thought you started the camera early...not so!

[Tcostello105]

holy shit he was flying 5 star and a favorote

[RDG484]

Brings back memories of "D&H 302" running at 79 MPH on the Lackawanna Cutoff back in 1973. I'd give anything to see a Reading T-1 running at 79 MPH again.

[3254man]

I like this shot. 844 screaming down the mainline without a desiel helper

[537Doug]

Whew! looked like 79 to me

[steamjunkie]

I paced 844 in 06 from Claremore OK to KC Union Station. On a stretch of tracks before the yard at Coffeyville she was hitting almost 85mph for a few miles. Man those drive rods were a blur,looked like they were only moving up and down a foot or so.

[tuner562]

holy crap, I didn't think those things could go that fast

[Wonkawillie77]

In 1893, believe it or not but it's true, the locomotive 999 of the New York Central Railroad, pulling the crack passenger train, The Empire State Express was clocked at 112.5 mph!!!! It was pulling a four car passenger train and had 86" drivers to give it more speed and stability. This engine was a 4-4-0 so it was high, short and this added to the speed factor.

[TrainmasterSP]

one of the 800 class was clocked at 115mph

in UP's Nebraska Subdivision

[polishroxxor]

HOLY SHIT...

When i was a kid, I wanted to be a steam engineer, but diesel electrics took over...I want a steam locomotive...

[DarkTower97]

There is no law that says you cant have one. Save your money, restore or build your own, and drive away. Thats what im going to try to do once my art career is over.

[Zxzm]

Art career=poor.

[grahamru]

As I recall, passenger train speed in between The Dalles and at least John Day used to average around 70 MPH. UP maintained the track speed (as far as I am aware they still do) for passenger traffic, even though they do not run passenger traffic along this line any longer.

Looking back further, the OMN used to be able to run at 65 from Biggs to The Dalles.

[prowlerspl]

thats pretty impressive can you imagine the force on that reciprocating motion that is impressive im suprised it doesnt fly apart at that speed

[DarkTower97]

dude these engines were built tough. Built the finest. That engine is far from flying apart at even 80.

[KSE828]

And I don't doubt that the train got up to over 70, I just don't think it was going that fast in that particular clip.

[DarkTower97]

whoa. No wonder 4~8~4's were used so much.

[grahamru]

The UP Four-Eight-Fours (FEF) were able to hit the Century mark. There are many accounts of the FEF's making 90-100 MPH runs on the Wyoming and Nebraska Divisions.

[KSE828]

That is not 70+. That is closer to 45-50.

[bbundridge]

I think that is what you would like to think but when the detector just around the corner behind the train says 70+ mph I'll go with that as well but also since I paced the train most of the distance, I know it was regularly doing 70 to 75mph.

[BNSFME]

thats so cool i didn't know they could go that fast!!!!!!!!!!

[SkipW]

Now thats a Freakin Hi-Ball! and i have seen a few it musta been a sittin on a siding somewhere just a waiting for the clear main green signal! Thats seriously making up some Lost time friends. LOL

[AlmightySR]

Wanna know whats scary.... that thing blowing one of those 2 ton drive rods at 70+ mph.

[cubman680]

Oh don't be rediculous. Nothing like that will ever happen

[UPTRAIN]

@AlmightySR

Luckily they spend 10 months a year working on it to keep that from happening. A main rod failure was rare as fuck in the steam days.

[buggiecar]

Was that whistle doing doppler

[dutchtrainmanserie22]

Awesome train video,fast train 70+ MPH=about more than 112 KMH.

[bigIslesfan]

i wood have bend there to see go pass i person to feel and hear caming down the track

[orgoth225]

Actually if you estimate that the 844 is 114.2 feet long plus each of the passenger cars are 85 feet long and eproximently that the box car is 50ft and the aux tender is 45ft and that it took 6 seconds to clear the camera and if you get the equation right the 844 was going a eproximate 81.97 MPH

[FullHouse999]

THANKS, PROFESSOR EINSTIEN!!!

[Gotthard68]

lol!!

[H20TNT]

Too much CSI

[Wonkawillie77]

physics major?

I'm impressed!

Really....I can barely count that high!

[orgoth225]

Actually I'm just a Freshmann in High school

[Wonkawillie77]

Thanks alot now I'm impressed and depressed.

Smart-ass kid!

Just kidding. It's good to see that someone is still paying attention in school.

Good luck to you.

[orgoth225]

Latley I have reveiwed over the equation and it seems that my original anser is incorrect it seems when i origanly sumed up the numbers and divided I for got to add some of the decimals so the actual anser is 67.4 for the fact that 809.2 divided by 60 divided by 0.20 is 67.4 but when I did the original I aceldently added anouther zero sorry for the mix up.

[bigIslesfan]

like his video it shows what steam engines can do speedys like the high speed trains

[UPTRAIN]

Holy shit, that was quick. We saw it do a similar speed in Arkansas in 2006, about 75, but we didn't record video.

[Hiei2k7]

that is how ALL TRAINS should be Filmed!

Listen to the tone of that whistle coming up the hill-it means BUSINESS!

[youngwarrior2]

Nice video Brian. I was chasing it from The Dalles Dam and didn't catch up until I got to the Deschutes River.

[bnsf4737]

Great video. I filmed 844 several miles to the east of Celilo.

[Ektomias]

Damn that brings back memories! Nice clip, Brian!

[nightfoam]

Very cool! Dunno if you heard the DED at 92.7 but they were going 77!

[djstupido]

Wooo! Wooo! Awesome video Brian!!!!