Rear wing problem... Investigation (and particularly the track's video tapes) showed that Ortelli's car lost a small part from his rear wing in the stretch between Ascari and Parabolica.
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"did it hit the audi, it hit the audi, it just missed the audi" why do the fucking commenters and well everyone in rolex and whatever series this is say the car man. and not the driver's name. Respectfully speaking, this kind of racing is boring, and just very confusing. I can never follow it. No cool wrecks like this happen mush.
@FormulaOneSpy I guess i worded wrong, i dont watch racing (in my case nascar) just for cool wrecks, i watch it for the thrill and excitment of racing and compitition. I grew up in baseball, but i always had a passion for the motorsports, its my future career.
So all i have to say is i just dont find this series of racing entertaining, but its great you and millions love it, im alright with that.
@FormulaOneSpy Dude, im just saying, everyone likes to see a cool wreck from time to time. Im a long time racing fan and i surely am not one of those idiots who just watch it for the wrecks. ive been a Kevin Harvick (a nascar driver) fan for over 4 years, and after long struggling droughts and almost losing his sponcership, hes running for the championship this year and its so special to me to see that bright yellow number 3 roll to wins. I hope you thinkl different now
@HepcatMatty Dude, im just saying, everyone likes to see a cool wreck from time to time. Im a long time racing fan and i surely am not one of those idiots who just watch it for the wrecks. ive been a Kevin Harvick (a nascar driver) fan for over 4 years, and after long struggling droughts and almost losing his sponcership, hes running for the championship this year and its so special to me to see that bright yellow number 3 roll to wins. I hope you thinkl different now.
@18sux29rox I try not to hate on NASCAR, but most of the nascar fans i have met are all about crashes. It just really irritates me. Im glad to hear you're in it for the racing, not the crashing.
anyone can explain why this race car just turn tail-happy in that split of the second? The car's running at 300+km/h and far away from the front car's turbulence. I myself race amateur with front or rear driven race prepped cars with much lower power output. I suspect this is caused by a sudden chassis fail? a tire blowout? suspension link fail?
I can't remember if it something broke in the rear wing or was it a brake problem, but anyway reason for the take off were obviously the aerodynamics of LMP car and some particular areas in the bottom of the cars.
Well, I know LMP cars take off all the time when sideway hitting air at high speed. But I am trying to understand what causes the sideway at the first? The cars being driven hard accelerating down the straight. Far from front car, and braking point. I suspect a component failure in the chassis. For example a broken link in the suspension set up resulting an unsecured wheel not rolling forward. Or a tire blowout. In this case at extreme speed I think it is the front failure.
I should have added LOL to my comment-I was kidding. It is amazing what these cars will take. But then you have a fatal like Surtee's. Everything in life is dangerous. Screw it, go have fun.
I thought the R8 came first, and then the R10 comes in as the successor of the R8. I ono, I've never actually paid any attention to the LMP1 and LMP2 series. I haven't watch much LeMans since the M3 GTR got taken off, and that's years ago.
There was no onboard camera on that crashed car. And even if there had been (and not destroyed in the crash) I doubt it would have been shown... to protect viewers from possibly serious aftermath, you know.
Because usually in potentially serious accidents tv cameras refrain from close up shots of the possibly injured driver etc... thats just how it seems to be. And to be honest, I really wouldn't want to see the bloody aftermath (thanks to modern safety, doesn't happen often). For example Heikki Kovalainen's crash in Barcelona last year, nothing serious after all but I think the medics even used some sort of sheet for cover when they removed him from the cockpit.
At adrenachrome05 - the changes in regulation were meant to help prevent this kind of accident too, by introducing a "curve" (actually bevel) in the underside when the car is going sideways, to counteract the shape of the upper bodywork. When the car is going sideways, a flat underside makes it similar to an aeroplane wing and puts lower pressure on top, which is why they take off and fly. This reshaping of the underside is an attempt to reduce the pressure differential.
No way man that peugeot has a bigger bugget! Audi spends heaps more on development and racing! Basicily it comes down to technology. The hdi engine is better than a tdi engine! They work slightly differently, Hdi is high compression and Tdi is turbo! The peugeot is slightly higher in torque to. And man how lucky id the Audi driver in this lucky to be alive, recon he wouold have filled his suit! Peugeot build you 908 street verson and we will buy it!
The regs did avoid this happening with McNish's (early in the race) and Jamie Campbell-Walter's (in the friday practice) crashes. Cars got airborne but didn't flip.
I know crash @ Le Mans was a front-end lift but I read that the changes to the underside of the cars after that has now made them more prone to flip when getting sieways @ speed.
no, but for me to get to le mans, (its not in my country) all the money for tickets, accomodation and traveling there. it costs a lot so when you get there you want everything to be spectacualar. and that crash was spectacular, as is the event.
What about that? It doesn't mean speed. In Le Mans Series traditionally the races are called "1000km of PutTrackNameHere". 1000 km is the race distance, for example in Monza that equals to 173 laps.
You probably mean Mercedes-Benz CLR. It was not a DTM car. It flipped three times in Le Mans 1999 (in addition to that Porsche 911 GT1 flipped once in Road Atlanta 1998 and year later BMW LMR V12 repated it on the same spot).
But these fips were different. Modern LMP would not flip that like that. In this case the car was sideways and air got under it because of a bump in the run-off grass.
NOOO CHOCO EL GUILLE ORTELLI! JAJAJA
masepidesevive 1 week ago
worst commentators ive ever heard in my entire life.
M5PowerM3Power 4 months ago
JUST missed the audi. DAMN
mxdudeguy45 4 months ago
C'est pour éviter des crashs de ce type que "l'aileron dorsal" est devenu obligatoire, aussi bien en ILMC qu'en Formule 1 ;)
Excel115officiel 7 months ago
chris is weird
Pablin6114 10 months ago
Rear wing problem... Investigation (and particularly the track's video tapes) showed that Ortelli's car lost a small part from his rear wing in the stretch between Ascari and Parabolica.
ursuss100 1 year ago
wow! did you see close that car flyed next to that car who drived normally?
tonder762 1 year ago
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Fuckin show off.
billyboyjennings 1 year ago
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"did it hit the audi, it hit the audi, it just missed the audi" why do the fucking commenters and well everyone in rolex and whatever series this is say the car man. and not the driver's name. Respectfully speaking, this kind of racing is boring, and just very confusing. I can never follow it. No cool wrecks like this happen mush.
18sux29rox 1 year ago
@18sux29rox It simply makes more sense because every car has two drivers and in longer races three.
"No cool wrecks like this happen mush."
You should go watch demolition derby or something like that.
FormulaOneSpy 1 year ago 26
@FormulaOneSpy I guess i worded wrong, i dont watch racing (in my case nascar) just for cool wrecks, i watch it for the thrill and excitment of racing and compitition. I grew up in baseball, but i always had a passion for the motorsports, its my future career.
So all i have to say is i just dont find this series of racing entertaining, but its great you and millions love it, im alright with that.
18sux29rox 1 year ago
@FormulaOneSpy Dude, im just saying, everyone likes to see a cool wreck from time to time. Im a long time racing fan and i surely am not one of those idiots who just watch it for the wrecks. ive been a Kevin Harvick (a nascar driver) fan for over 4 years, and after long struggling droughts and almost losing his sponcership, hes running for the championship this year and its so special to me to see that bright yellow number 3 roll to wins. I hope you thinkl different now
18sux29rox 1 year ago
@18sux29rox go watch some NASCAR if you want crashes. The rest of us will watch real racing
HepcatMatty 1 year ago
@HepcatMatty Dude, im just saying, everyone likes to see a cool wreck from time to time. Im a long time racing fan and i surely am not one of those idiots who just watch it for the wrecks. ive been a Kevin Harvick (a nascar driver) fan for over 4 years, and after long struggling droughts and almost losing his sponcership, hes running for the championship this year and its so special to me to see that bright yellow number 3 roll to wins. I hope you thinkl different now.
18sux29rox 1 year ago
@18sux29rox I try not to hate on NASCAR, but most of the nascar fans i have met are all about crashes. It just really irritates me. Im glad to hear you're in it for the racing, not the crashing.
HepcatMatty 1 year ago
i have never seen a mechanical failure have such a dramatic repercussion.
peacexisxfree 1 year ago
I'm shocked that he only picked up a broken ankle...that looked like a pretty serious accident.
mrTsalverda300 1 year ago
@golferchin76
as he braked the right side of his car locked up, and the left wanted to keep driving as it was travelling at 300+km/h
LevettAidan 1 year ago
NOW THATS A CRASH!!!!
Decepticon029 1 year ago 2
Na Hoppla O.o
africanjungle52 1 year ago
There is a faint puff of smoke from the left-rear tire area. Seems more mechanical failure than anything. What else would upset that car so quickly?
jamesandrew2000 1 year ago
audi driver luckiest man in the world lol 0:44
scottster97 1 year ago
you can only get that from a wing failure or a suspension failure
sirpiccolo 1 year ago
@sirpiccolo very true, and a steering rack failure will do the job also, as I recently just experienced coming out of a chicane :-(
golferchin76 1 year ago
right rear brake/ suspension failure.
iElvisMC 2 years ago
in my opinion the first driver creates too much turbulence which causes the second driver which brakes to lose front grip and to slide.
antoniooke 2 years ago
anyone can explain why this race car just turn tail-happy in that split of the second? The car's running at 300+km/h and far away from the front car's turbulence. I myself race amateur with front or rear driven race prepped cars with much lower power output. I suspect this is caused by a sudden chassis fail? a tire blowout? suspension link fail?
golferchin76 2 years ago
I can't remember if it something broke in the rear wing or was it a brake problem, but anyway reason for the take off were obviously the aerodynamics of LMP car and some particular areas in the bottom of the cars.
FormulaOneSpy 2 years ago
Well, I know LMP cars take off all the time when sideway hitting air at high speed. But I am trying to understand what causes the sideway at the first? The cars being driven hard accelerating down the straight. Far from front car, and braking point. I suspect a component failure in the chassis. For example a broken link in the suspension set up resulting an unsecured wheel not rolling forward. Or a tire blowout. In this case at extreme speed I think it is the front failure.
golferchin76 2 years ago
@FormulaOneSpy : Suspention failure
CharlieEnno 10 months ago
he locked up the rear wheels, the back end snaps around with the engine being mid mounted. passenger from there on.
Manuva02 2 years ago
@golferchin76 Also whereas with something you create downforce when you reverse the flow of air you create lift.
CastrolSupra12 1 year ago
horrifying...
m93sek 2 years ago
wow when the accedent happened, the annoucers seems like they didn't even care, or weren't looking
drummingbomb 2 years ago 3
like I recently replied to another comment below, it is a replay.
FormulaOneSpy 2 years ago 8
its a REPRAY!
011111001001 1 year ago
wow the announcers sound like they would rather be somewhere else haha "That's a Huge accident Chris!"
"....Yes..."
unos10 2 years ago
not the best announcers in the world but it's a replay.
FormulaOneSpy 2 years ago
Yeah still :P i would fall asleep, the guy he calls "chris" sounds like his falling asleep :P
unos10 2 years ago
MOTORS TV IN ENGLISH IS GREAT
rurmundo 2 years ago 7
I'm just glad Ortelli was ok, Mcnish was very lucky not to have been hit.
ShaunSC9 2 years ago 4
Yeah, the safety has increased but the damage it does to your body even with a HANS device, harnesses etc is crazy.
RS358 2 years ago 2
LOL at :35..."That's a Huge accident Chris....YES......(dead silence / awkward moment)..
NismoFinder 2 years ago
i fucking hate the announcers.
doogrisa 2 years ago
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The cars are so safe nowadays you don't really mind slamming into a concrete barrier at 200 or 300 mph!
fladave99 2 years ago
300 mph? That's a bit unrealistic speed. But even 200 mph would be deady in a straight head on crash into a wall. Cars are safe, but not that safe.
FormulaOneSpy 2 years ago
I should have added LOL to my comment-I was kidding. It is amazing what these cars will take. But then you have a fatal like Surtee's. Everything in life is dangerous. Screw it, go have fun.
fladave99 2 years ago
McNish could have so been easily killed.
YawnGod 2 years ago
the anouncers dont seem very surprised...
daltonplaysthesax 2 years ago 4
not exactly the most exhilarating announcers, but this is a replay.
deggis4 2 years ago 6
0:22
you14871 2 years ago
lmao " its a repray"
Klodust 2 years ago 4
Man...who ever's driving that audi R (...is it 8 or 10? i can't see, by eye sight) is very lucky, that would've ruin his lap.
nguyenvinhvx 2 years ago
Allan McNish
FormulaOneSpy 2 years ago
there are no r8 driving le mans ;) just r10 :D nov it was chenged by an audi r15 ;)
daslicht456 2 years ago
I thought the R8 came first, and then the R10 comes in as the successor of the R8. I ono, I've never actually paid any attention to the LMP1 and LMP2 series. I haven't watch much LeMans since the M3 GTR got taken off, and that's years ago.
nguyenvinhvx 2 years ago
i dont watch le mans ;) but u see it because of the body of the car tagt it is an r10 D
daslicht456 2 years ago
R-10
Pgabs123 2 years ago
They show a camera view of the cockpit of another car but not the one that crashed? What's up with that?
BMWBuyer15 2 years ago
There was no onboard camera on that crashed car. And even if there had been (and not destroyed in the crash) I doubt it would have been shown... to protect viewers from possibly serious aftermath, you know.
FormulaOneSpy 2 years ago
what do you mean they wouldnt show it io protect viewers from possible serious aftermath? I dont see why they wouldnt show it
CUZC0M 2 years ago
Because usually in potentially serious accidents tv cameras refrain from close up shots of the possibly injured driver etc... thats just how it seems to be. And to be honest, I really wouldn't want to see the bloody aftermath (thanks to modern safety, doesn't happen often). For example Heikki Kovalainen's crash in Barcelona last year, nothing serious after all but I think the medics even used some sort of sheet for cover when they removed him from the cockpit.
FormulaOneSpy 2 years ago
McNish was in the Audi, and he did not realize how close it was, until he saw the replays after the race..
raben39 2 years ago
Fuck, that Audi driver was very lucky. A bit slower and the Audi would also be hit by the other car. OMG :O
TheNeverEndingGame 2 years ago 2
Damn I wonder what the dude was thinking when he was driving by the wreckage that just appeared before him.
SonyForLife 2 years ago
stopping and helping would be nice
prettyshady 2 years ago
Not even being cynical, but track marshalls and medics exist for that reason. It's not 60 or 70s anymore.
FormulaOneSpy 2 years ago
for sure its best to leave it for the marshalls, just looks/feels strange to drive past it
prettyshady 2 years ago
in the 60's in F1 they didn't even use seat belts
Schwarz2448 2 years ago
Commentators sound like they have down syndrome
M5PowerM3Power 2 years ago
what year was this ?
nascargavin8 2 years ago
it was 2008 :).. i think so..
YoloRapp 2 years ago
wow, that's pretty recent, as compared to other horrible crashes. :p
nascargavin8 2 years ago
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the commentators are fucking retarded
mnnorthstars12 2 years ago
Ortelli himself says that he was driving 340km/h and that he was thinking that his time had come and hoped not to touch McNish (Audi driver).
bingoruud 2 years ago
Why are the commentators eating the microphone?
edkev94 2 years ago 2
Wow...Stéphane's are lucky guys.
stephane8200 2 years ago
did this driver get injured in this crash?
hash626 2 years ago
Yes, foot broken I think, now he does not want to talk about this accident. He is still driving for the same team ORECA this year.
adamiol 2 years ago 2
I spoke to Alan mcnish at spa, who's driving the audi here.
And I told him he is the luckiest guy of the whole series. cuz if he were slower the car could av easily decapitated him.
kartracer93 2 years ago
:) It was just crazy first time i saw that crash...
Eldacar18 2 years ago
At adrenachrome05 - the changes in regulation were meant to help prevent this kind of accident too, by introducing a "curve" (actually bevel) in the underside when the car is going sideways, to counteract the shape of the upper bodywork. When the car is going sideways, a flat underside makes it similar to an aeroplane wing and puts lower pressure on top, which is why they take off and fly. This reshaping of the underside is an attempt to reduce the pressure differential.
KeeperOfTheKitten 3 years ago
at 0.46 he's got lucky
Nrackhnir 3 years ago
yup, broken a leg too... that sucks
Brett140 3 years ago
Holy Shit!
Bradzii 3 years ago 2
Team Oreca Matmut has been sponsored in recent years by a French insurance company, Matmut.
LolaJudd 3 years ago 3
bet the team bosses wallet is a bit lighter after that
mallocksrule 3 years ago
very great accident. probably in a car of 15-20 years ago the pilot would be dead. very happy that Ortelli could be come back soon!
italychamp 3 years ago 13
thjis accident 15 years ago , the driver would probably went airborne like gilles villeneuve did
rdtli 3 years ago 4
Yes you're right
italychamp 3 years ago 5
No way man that peugeot has a bigger bugget! Audi spends heaps more on development and racing! Basicily it comes down to technology. The hdi engine is better than a tdi engine! They work slightly differently, Hdi is high compression and Tdi is turbo! The peugeot is slightly higher in torque to. And man how lucky id the Audi driver in this lucky to be alive, recon he wouold have filled his suit! Peugeot build you 908 street verson and we will buy it!
gannonsheldon 3 years ago
LolaJudd's comment was related to Oreca's budget...
But how are you so sure about the size of the budgets?
FormulaOneSpy 3 years ago
The rule changes after the Mercs went 'flying' @ Le Mans in 99, were supposed to stop this happening !. Back to the drawing board....
adrenachrome05 3 years ago
The regs did avoid this happening with McNish's (early in the race) and Jamie Campbell-Walter's (in the friday practice) crashes. Cars got airborne but didn't flip.
FormulaOneSpy 3 years ago
Also this crash wasn't exactly similar to the Merc flips at Le Mans (or BMW and Porsche flips at Road Atlanta)
FormulaOneSpy 3 years ago
I know crash @ Le Mans was a front-end lift but I read that the changes to the underside of the cars after that has now made them more prone to flip when getting sieways @ speed.
adrenachrome05 3 years ago
that was spectacualar, not for the driver but wow. if i had bought a ticket to that and seen it i'd consider it money well spent.
thenextbigshed 3 years ago
as though Le Mans Series races aren't money well spent?
LolaJudd 3 years ago
no, but for me to get to le mans, (its not in my country) all the money for tickets, accomodation and traveling there. it costs a lot so when you get there you want everything to be spectacualar. and that crash was spectacular, as is the event.
thenextbigshed 3 years ago
this race was in Monza, Italy and would have cost less than the 24 Hours of Le Mans
LolaJudd 3 years ago
yeah I wish I could yes. But go kart racing is a far cry from Lemans.
SlovenianGuy 3 years ago
how is the Courage-Oreca LC70 Judd a snail?
LolaJudd 3 years ago
like it was already explained, that comment was misunderstading.
(but compared to Pug, yes :D)
FormulaOneSpy 3 years ago
Peugeot has a bigger budget for development.
LolaJudd 3 years ago
i wasn't totally serious about it...
FormulaOneSpy 3 years ago
sure you will honney...
SlovenianGuy 3 years ago
it's amazing how exciting the English commentators are, 'Chris' sounds like he's in his sleeping bag with a mug of cocoa
omarks 3 years ago
This crash happened in the 1000km of Monza 08
maxdriver49 3 years ago
can someone please tell me when this crash happened please?
xyLoveyx 3 years ago
what the hell happened? Doesnt look like a blow out... that looked wierd as.
OriginalAtomicSheep 3 years ago
Which snail cars? The 240mph LM cars in this vid?
Mikeado66 3 years ago 2
Ho. Ly. Crap.
That Audi R10 driver must've soiled himself...
Mikeado66 3 years ago
what speed was he doing when it happened, 300km/h?
sybie99 3 years ago
Some report said 320 km/h, which is quite possible because that was just in the end of the long main straight and not yet in the braking zone.
FormulaOneSpy 3 years ago
from about :44 to :48 was a crazy shot.
FREDDY81FUNES 3 years ago
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1000kmh, thats 621mph....doubt it
tomelliott9 3 years ago
It says km, not km/h. It's the race distance, not speed.
FormulaOneSpy 3 years ago
Changed now the video title, seemed to cause too much confusion...
FormulaOneSpy 3 years ago
come on men its not a Jet
and its not Star wars Universe!
thehiveplace 3 years ago
So by your logic, the Daytona 500 involves cars driving at 500mph also.
AudiA6Avant27TQuatt 3 years ago
That was a big crash chris!
Yes.
jonolinc08 3 years ago
Man, close one!
griffinjb24 3 years ago
1000km?
joshbourke89 3 years ago
What about that? It doesn't mean speed. In Le Mans Series traditionally the races are called "1000km of PutTrackNameHere". 1000 km is the race distance, for example in Monza that equals to 173 laps.
FormulaOneSpy 3 years ago
tomelliott9 thinks he`s a genius
trratt 3 years ago
OMG! O_o
Crazytaio 3 years ago
Just shows how quick these cars are now going. Anyone remember the Merc DTM a few years back at Le Man...
MasterTwiter 3 years ago
You probably mean Mercedes-Benz CLR. It was not a DTM car. It flipped three times in Le Mans 1999 (in addition to that Porsche 911 GT1 flipped once in Road Atlanta 1998 and year later BMW LMR V12 repated it on the same spot).
But these fips were different. Modern LMP would not flip that like that. In this case the car was sideways and air got under it because of a bump in the run-off grass.
FormulaOneSpy 3 years ago
wohaaa
LowBudProd 3 years ago
what the fuck is wrong with commentators??
gnidich2000 3 years ago
what do you mean? the real-time clip in this video is not live, it was a replay.
FormulaOneSpy 3 years ago
00:17- I know I was certainly re-preying when I watched it again.
gnamp 3 years ago
Thats the most incredible crash ive seen for a long time. Hope Ortelli recovers soon.
ivangrozny27 3 years ago
Amazing how bloody close he was to clipping the Audi. Matter of a few feet from the back.. wow..
XioNilrem 3 years ago
holy crap lucky bastard to come away with nothing but a broken ankle
deansgal4life 3 years ago
the driver of the front car doesn't even know how fucking close that car got to him
yellowman88 3 years ago
OMG the replay where they show the audi OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that was like a movie there! damn! good thing is ok tho! :)
michaelballack 3 years ago
fekin hell!
thank buda for carbon fibre..
dissdance 3 years ago
is he ok?
Ticketn 3 years ago 2
yes, but reportedly broken/injured ankle.
FormulaOneSpy 3 years ago
that was unreal.
brandensimmons1987 3 years ago
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R.I.P
Broony81 3 years ago
luckily, he didnt die
19Edge86 3 years ago 2
0:46...jesus how close was he
rofk91 3 years ago 3
I think they were millimeters apart at that point.
infinityofnever 3 years ago
lag in forza 2...
ELITEnoOBno2 3 years ago
quel crash lool
nicoOdu02 3 years ago
Wow.
rebeccahoward 3 years ago
think you may be exaggerating about the 1000km/h
fitterhappiermusic 3 years ago
it's a 1000 km long race
Matthias469 3 years ago 4
ah cheers, my bad
fitterhappiermusic 3 years ago
5 hours of race
metalmaghetto 3 years ago
did he die?
Jaymalamin 3 years ago
Nope. Broke an ankle.
CthulhuIsCool2007 3 years ago 4
No, now he is at the ospital and his conditions are not so serious.
metalmaghetto 3 years ago
Get well soon Stephane!
OptimaxX 3 years ago 2
hhoooow close was that!
crustymiller 3 years ago 2
Thats flippin insane...
ashacrasha 3 years ago