Hi kabukikitsune No the live steam system must be completely seperate to the DCC system If you want to run both on the same tracks you need to make sure you can disconnect each controller and take off any locomotives not being used on the system you are using DCC chips will be damaged by the live steam system and vice versa.
@cedarcam The reason I ask, is I was thinking of isolating the track with gaps, somewhat in the way we used to do back in the old DC days. I thought, perhaps, by isolating the tracks, for example, of the main lines for the live steam, and using DCC on the shunting yard, or in around the branch line I have planned, then I could run DCC and Live at the same time. Perhaps use a gated crossing or something (siding gate) to remind me to keep the two seperate...
OK There should be no problem there I run DC and DCC at the same time and have done just that Both rails have an isolation joint in at each end of a short dead section of track between the 2 systems so if I accidently bridge the gap the power only gets as far as the dead section I also have a 3 position switch to put power right across for through running. position 1 DCC position 2 OFF Position 3 DC The off in the middle makes sure DCC and DC do not get connected together as the switch turns
The way you drive them is the biggest difference Unlike an electric one there is no fixed amount of power from the controler to make the loco move You have to judge how much power to send to open or close the steam valve inside the loco to make it move at the right speed They do not stop when you cut off the power either Like a real loco they will coast to a stand as the steam is used up so you have to judge when to close the steam valve to slow and stop in the right place
Hi I have been to the shop and measured the station for you From the wall to the edge of the board is 12 inches (30cm) The platform by the wall is 2 inches (5cm) wide A metcalf kit Then the 3 tracks take up 6 1/2 inches (16cm) The island platform is alose a metcalf kit 2 inches wide Then another track to the edge of the board Hope this helps :)
@cedarcam ahh mate your a star. didnt think they was any decent people left in the world haha... yeah its going to help me big time can start building my new layout now this weekend :)...really do appreciate it big time. thanks again
@cedarcam thank you. and yeah i will when i get a bit of track put down...there is some videos of my old layout on here if you search for hornby live steam
Hey I am sorry I did not get to reply to you sooner but I was looking back here today and noticed you asked about the station kit If you have not already found out. It is made by Metcalfe models and toys limited and you can buy them on line from their website
Theres no doubt these models are more suitable for a large layout with large radius curves They do sound like a real steam loco at slower speed and have the smell of hot oil a real steam loco has too so there are differences when you see them in reality I must say I do prefer the electric ones in this scale though
That was really cool. Every summer I set up my live steam set. I bought the controller unit and 2509 Silver Link seperately through a hornby retailer on ebay.
It was really fun to make this film although rather hard to get both trains to run together for long Scotsman was the most awkward of the 2 to keep under control
It was the shop owners idea and was great fun to do The layout is DC on the outside and live steam in the middle then the top circuits are DCC For the race he used a second live steam controler connected to the DC lines so both trains were under independant control Scotsman was going really fast at first but we got them to run at a more matched speed on the second attempt
Mallard was going so fast we thought she would leave the rails But it was actualy Scotsman that suffered a fall early on in the filming Controlling 2 trains was a little tricky to say the least
in my experience that would be becuse of the tighter turns the scotsman has to take. i would love to get live steam of both, i have a scotsman set unfortunatley i do not have the room, shame as i have LOADS of track and its all pretty new.
Yes That is what happened Mallard was infact going a lot faster than Scotsman most of the time but it was Scotsman that left the rails in the under cover section. To run these trains you really need a large radius layout because they do tend to run away quickly and derailments would be frequent on a smaller layout untill you got used to them. With practice they are quite contrlable
The contents of the box are the same as in the Flying Scotsman set which can be seen in detail in the video Unboxing a Hornby Live Steam Flying Scotsman
While I was filming I noticed the glowing joint as Mallard approached. It was caused by the fishplate (Rail joiner) being loose making a hige electrical resistance The high current taken by the loco passing through caused it to heat up. It was soon repaired by nipping tight with pliers
i really like the poem in description
nidhi02jain 3 weeks ago
@nidhi02jain LOL Thanks I thought the little poem had gone un noticed for a long time This was a fun film to make :)
cedarcam 3 weeks ago
which railway shop is this? I think it may be my local one but im not sure
djmfoxR 11 months ago
@djmfoxR It is Millenium models in the town Morley
cedarcam 11 months ago
Something I've wondered, will the live steamers work in conjunction with DCC or not? Meaning do I have to wire isolate the live steam tracks or not?
kabukikitsune 1 year ago
Hi kabukikitsune No the live steam system must be completely seperate to the DCC system If you want to run both on the same tracks you need to make sure you can disconnect each controller and take off any locomotives not being used on the system you are using DCC chips will be damaged by the live steam system and vice versa.
cedarcam 1 year ago
@cedarcam The reason I ask, is I was thinking of isolating the track with gaps, somewhat in the way we used to do back in the old DC days. I thought, perhaps, by isolating the tracks, for example, of the main lines for the live steam, and using DCC on the shunting yard, or in around the branch line I have planned, then I could run DCC and Live at the same time. Perhaps use a gated crossing or something (siding gate) to remind me to keep the two seperate...
kabukikitsune 1 year ago
OK There should be no problem there I run DC and DCC at the same time and have done just that Both rails have an isolation joint in at each end of a short dead section of track between the 2 systems so if I accidently bridge the gap the power only gets as far as the dead section I also have a 3 position switch to put power right across for through running. position 1 DCC position 2 OFF Position 3 DC The off in the middle makes sure DCC and DC do not get connected together as the switch turns
cedarcam 1 year ago
@cedarcam
why is the live steam range so different to normal hornby?
i know its has live steam - of course
Galacticmaster 1 year ago
The way you drive them is the biggest difference Unlike an electric one there is no fixed amount of power from the controler to make the loco move You have to judge how much power to send to open or close the steam valve inside the loco to make it move at the right speed They do not stop when you cut off the power either Like a real loco they will coast to a stand as the steam is used up so you have to judge when to close the steam valve to slow and stop in the right place
cedarcam 1 year ago
hi...dont suppose you no the with of the base bored where the station is from the edge of the bored to the the brick wall behind the station?..thanks
CHRISPATCH69 1 year ago
Hi I have been to the shop and measured the station for you From the wall to the edge of the board is 12 inches (30cm) The platform by the wall is 2 inches (5cm) wide A metcalf kit Then the 3 tracks take up 6 1/2 inches (16cm) The island platform is alose a metcalf kit 2 inches wide Then another track to the edge of the board Hope this helps :)
cedarcam 1 year ago
@cedarcam ahh mate your a star. didnt think they was any decent people left in the world haha... yeah its going to help me big time can start building my new layout now this weekend :)...really do appreciate it big time. thanks again
CHRISPATCH69 1 year ago
No problem mate It hope your layout building goes to plan and one day you can share some film with us here :)
cedarcam 1 year ago
@cedarcam thank you. and yeah i will when i get a bit of track put down...there is some videos of my old layout on here if you search for hornby live steam
CHRISPATCH69 1 year ago
speed goes to mallard
as well as looks
flying scotsman gets good design
as well as detail
ioukkj 1 year ago
Scotsman clearly got her arse handed to her on a garter blue platter!
Femmenition 1 year ago
where is the shop based
joseph6505 2 years ago
It is in a town called Morley in West Yorkshire
cedarcam 2 years ago
Hey I am sorry I did not get to reply to you sooner but I was looking back here today and noticed you asked about the station kit If you have not already found out. It is made by Metcalfe models and toys limited and you can buy them on line from their website
cedarcam 2 years ago
unless someone told you you whould think that they are plain electric, TBH i think the plain electric ones are much better
couger911 2 years ago
Theres no doubt these models are more suitable for a large layout with large radius curves They do sound like a real steam loco at slower speed and have the smell of hot oil a real steam loco has too so there are differences when you see them in reality I must say I do prefer the electric ones in this scale though
cedarcam 2 years ago
@couger911 - you may change your mind if you see one of the live steamers "in the metal" and running.
JBofBrisbane 1 year ago
That was really cool. Every summer I set up my live steam set. I bought the controller unit and 2509 Silver Link seperately through a hornby retailer on ebay.
2509SilverLink 2 years ago
It was really fun to make this film although rather hard to get both trains to run together for long Scotsman was the most awkward of the 2 to keep under control
cedarcam 2 years ago
Yeah, I have had no problems with Silver Link. but I had to adjust the hornby controller for American voltage.
2509SilverLink 2 years ago
Now that would have me confused.
howarth004 2 years ago
That was a good race. Nice layout.
howarth004 2 years ago
It was the shop owners idea and was great fun to do The layout is DC on the outside and live steam in the middle then the top circuits are DCC For the race he used a second live steam controler connected to the DC lines so both trains were under independant control Scotsman was going really fast at first but we got them to run at a more matched speed on the second attempt
cedarcam 2 years ago
yeah i have to order it off the hornby website because no model shops in ireland sell it at a fair price!
bladeshreaderx 2 years ago
i cant w8 to get the flying scotsman set!
bladeshreaderx 2 years ago
I think you will be very pleased with the set I hope you do not have too long to wait for it
cedarcam 2 years ago
Great to see those locos moving at high speed. Great video - many thanks!
Nialletto 2 years ago
Mallard was going so fast we thought she would leave the rails But it was actualy Scotsman that suffered a fall early on in the filming Controlling 2 trains was a little tricky to say the least
cedarcam 2 years ago
in my experience that would be becuse of the tighter turns the scotsman has to take. i would love to get live steam of both, i have a scotsman set unfortunatley i do not have the room, shame as i have LOADS of track and its all pretty new.
benjokazooie 2 years ago
Yes That is what happened Mallard was infact going a lot faster than Scotsman most of the time but it was Scotsman that left the rails in the under cover section. To run these trains you really need a large radius layout because they do tend to run away quickly and derailments would be frequent on a smaller layout untill you got used to them. With practice they are quite contrlable
cedarcam 2 years ago
ok thank you
bladeshreaderx 2 years ago
wat do u get with the mallard set?
bladeshreaderx 2 years ago
The contents of the box are the same as in the Flying Scotsman set which can be seen in detail in the video Unboxing a Hornby Live Steam Flying Scotsman
cedarcam 2 years ago
ok thank you
bladeshreaderx 2 years ago
how come the rail joints sparked r somthing????????
bladeshreaderx 2 years ago
While I was filming I noticed the glowing joint as Mallard approached. It was caused by the fishplate (Rail joiner) being loose making a hige electrical resistance The high current taken by the loco passing through caused it to heat up. It was soon repaired by nipping tight with pliers
cedarcam 2 years ago
cool man!
bladeshreaderx 2 years ago
reall good
livesteamtrains 2 years ago
Thank you I am pleased you enjoyed the film
cedarcam 2 years ago