I don´t know about Andrés Segovia hating Mangoré ... I heard (or maybe just read what he said) Segovia, telling that they had been introduced when Agustín Barrios payed a visit to him in his hotel in Buenos Aires. Mangoré played some of his works for Segovia, and sure enough Segovia picked up immediately on the unbelievable quality of La Catedral and told the composer that he would like to play it. But Barrios never came back. Hatred? How so? I think this happened not long before Mangoré died.
good question , why didnt segovia play barrios, ill tell you why , he was incredibly incensed that barrios was the first to record the classical guitar and he was so jelouse that barrios was a composer and an incredible virtuoso, segovia was an interpreter, a good one and he sponsored many grerat composers to write for the guitar. Segovia went out of his way to close Barrios down.
@mrdario12 he was. he studied for him for a while, but ended in bad terms when he got tired of performing, and when on his own he went and performed a bunch of Barrios stuff to spite Segovia...Segovia hated barrios
Another cool thing about Mr. Williams is that he promotes the best composers. I'd never heard of Barrios until I saw the connection here on the YT. And I'd never heard of Django Reinhart until I heard JW mention his on this clip. The moral of the story is DROP NAMES! If any of you know of music in a similar vein or caliber--suggest it. There's treasure at the end of the bunny trails!
@uTubeTerror Caprice 2 is good, you're right. I have listened to Lauro a couple times, but can't remember. Thanks for the suggestions. I made a 'guitar' playlist and enjoy adding to it. I can listen to it while I work to relax without getting distracted. I have a separate Barrios playlist.
alexlais you apparently do not understand classical solo guitar. Solo classical guitar is not dance music. I have never heard of anyone dancing to classical guitar. Just because the piece is in 3/4 time you don't need to be able to dance to it. Classical guitar is for listening not dancing. JW is perfect on this video.
With all due respect, you are being harsh on me MusicPerson. I'm surprised you actually find JW's sound to be bad... How come? I'm interested to know because JW comes from an earlier school of thought where sound is paramount, over and above rythmical fidelity, and I think this Vals is a perfect example of this approach, don't you think? That is, there is no 'vals' in JW's playing here...
(With regard to the attempt to intimidate with particular diction) I have heard and played the original sheet music, and I will simply put it like this: I enjoy the sound of the way he plays it. Honestly, that is the whole point of music.
(Sincerely, there's no such attempt) I thought you said that you DIDN'T like JW's sound, so I'm not sure I understand your last point... My point was that JW, and other guitarists of that school, prefer better sound over being loyal to the rhythm of a piece. This is a well known fact. A Vals is a dance, but I know no couple could ever come close to dancing to JW's interpretation as it stands, and I can't see any compelling reason for doing that...
suck it, alexias, you know you cant play that good, so stop your unwanted bitching. The sound and the interpetation are the best I've heard so far. And I've heard many of this piece. This is by far the best.
you too have got me all wrong...really! I, too, grew up listening to JW's guitar playing and, yes, I could never say I'm nearly as good as him. But it is objectively the case that JW has, for his own reasons, completely destroyed the rhythm of this particular piece: The way he plays it there is no waltz, yet Barrios wrote this piece as such. You can diss me all you want, but this won't change the fact.
I read in a sheet music book of Barrios that he actually played this piece the way he enjoyed it the most, and didn't really regard whether or not people would be able to dance to it.
The most espectacular guitar composer in the world, it was paraguayan music in my heart. Thanks MANGORE.
rbonnaud 7 months ago
8 deaf people dislike this video. Are you kidding me?!
AScottToney 1 year ago
guitar's pretty difficult to learn.
Trcls 1 year ago
I don´t know about Andrés Segovia hating Mangoré ... I heard (or maybe just read what he said) Segovia, telling that they had been introduced when Agustín Barrios payed a visit to him in his hotel in Buenos Aires. Mangoré played some of his works for Segovia, and sure enough Segovia picked up immediately on the unbelievable quality of La Catedral and told the composer that he would like to play it. But Barrios never came back. Hatred? How so? I think this happened not long before Mangoré died.
weareallmusicians 1 year ago
check out lauro, vicente emilio sojo, leopoldo igarza, of course magore...theres many unknown latin american composers....best regards to ya all!
Freddythemonk 1 year ago
good question , why didnt segovia play barrios, ill tell you why , he was incredibly incensed that barrios was the first to record the classical guitar and he was so jelouse that barrios was a composer and an incredible virtuoso, segovia was an interpreter, a good one and he sponsored many grerat composers to write for the guitar. Segovia went out of his way to close Barrios down.
bigmuso123 1 year ago
so beautiful
EpicPoseidonBeard 1 year ago
is this song really complicated
jamesmanortiz 2 years ago
whay dident segovia play barrios??
abby161919 2 years ago
@abby161919 They were rivals. Segovia never liked Barrios and dissed his music
darkleafar 1 year ago
if you liked this then you;re gonna love strathmore secondary college guitar orchestra. check it out!!
TheKevinRuDD 2 years ago
was he andres segovias's student? does anybody know?
mrdario12 2 years ago
he was I do belive
ninjaguy3 2 years ago
yes he was.
deryck7j 2 years ago
@mrdario12 yes he was.
abby161919 2 years ago
@mrdario12 he was. he studied for him for a while, but ended in bad terms when he got tired of performing, and when on his own he went and performed a bunch of Barrios stuff to spite Segovia...Segovia hated barrios
darkleafar 1 year ago
Another cool thing about Mr. Williams is that he promotes the best composers. I'd never heard of Barrios until I saw the connection here on the YT. And I'd never heard of Django Reinhart until I heard JW mention his on this clip. The moral of the story is DROP NAMES! If any of you know of music in a similar vein or caliber--suggest it. There's treasure at the end of the bunny trails!
93N39 3 years ago 16
true
willy1986tralara 2 years ago
@93N39 the same thing happened to me
MuzicaDeJazz 1 year ago
@93N39 Legnani.
uTubeTerror 1 year ago
@uTubeTerror Is that the name of a great guitarist that you're dropping?
93N39 1 year ago
@uTubeTerror Yeeeeees! Thanks.
93N39 1 year ago
@93N39 I really like the carpice No.2.Also check out works by antonio lauro,if you haven't/
uTubeTerror 1 year ago
@uTubeTerror Caprice 2 is good, you're right. I have listened to Lauro a couple times, but can't remember. Thanks for the suggestions. I made a 'guitar' playlist and enjoy adding to it. I can listen to it while I work to relax without getting distracted. I have a separate Barrios playlist.
93N39 1 year ago
the best version i've ever heard
3kshs11 3 years ago 3
seriously, hot dang this is awesome
robcolucci 4 years ago
well said... dances are more for flamenco playing...
carefreemusic 4 years ago 2
one of the besttt classical guitar player on earth ...
soniameh 4 years ago 14
alexlais you apparently do not understand classical solo guitar. Solo classical guitar is not dance music. I have never heard of anyone dancing to classical guitar. Just because the piece is in 3/4 time you don't need to be able to dance to it. Classical guitar is for listening not dancing. JW is perfect on this video.
GuitaristSheep55555 4 years ago
He plays very well I think and I give him 5 stars
jeuneguitaristesuiss 4 years ago
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Perfect sound, crap interpretation. one star. Case closed.
alexlais 4 years ago
One star, thats a little harsh.
chingon93 4 years ago
I found the interpretation to be great, and the sound to be bad. If you ask me, you are acting like an egotistical ass.
TheMusicPerson90 4 years ago
With all due respect, you are being harsh on me MusicPerson. I'm surprised you actually find JW's sound to be bad... How come? I'm interested to know because JW comes from an earlier school of thought where sound is paramount, over and above rythmical fidelity, and I think this Vals is a perfect example of this approach, don't you think? That is, there is no 'vals' in JW's playing here...
alexlais 4 years ago
(With regard to the attempt to intimidate with particular diction) I have heard and played the original sheet music, and I will simply put it like this: I enjoy the sound of the way he plays it. Honestly, that is the whole point of music.
TheMusicPerson90 4 years ago
(Sincerely, there's no such attempt) I thought you said that you DIDN'T like JW's sound, so I'm not sure I understand your last point... My point was that JW, and other guitarists of that school, prefer better sound over being loyal to the rhythm of a piece. This is a well known fact. A Vals is a dance, but I know no couple could ever come close to dancing to JW's interpretation as it stands, and I can't see any compelling reason for doing that...
alexlais 4 years ago
I thought you meant the sound quality of the uploaded video...
TheMusicPerson90 4 years ago
suck it, alexias, you know you cant play that good, so stop your unwanted bitching. The sound and the interpetation are the best I've heard so far. And I've heard many of this piece. This is by far the best.
joelbs1 4 years ago
you too have got me all wrong...really! I, too, grew up listening to JW's guitar playing and, yes, I could never say I'm nearly as good as him. But it is objectively the case that JW has, for his own reasons, completely destroyed the rhythm of this particular piece: The way he plays it there is no waltz, yet Barrios wrote this piece as such. You can diss me all you want, but this won't change the fact.
alexlais 4 years ago 2
Actually it's just your opinion and by all means voice it but I do not believe yours is one that is shared by many to say the least.
Wonderful playing by Mr. Williams again.
jckstrthmghty 4 years ago 2
I read in a sheet music book of Barrios that he actually played this piece the way he enjoyed it the most, and didn't really regard whether or not people would be able to dance to it.
GuitarSonata 4 years ago 4
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you dont know a shit
omaregb 4 years ago