Genesis Squonk 1980

[guitarplayer4real]

If music is a contest to be compared and criticized, then you have already missed the bus.

[1wirefan]

Yeah the whole Collins versus Gabriel thing is dumb. Both did great work (c'mon, you don't like Duke?) during their respective eras, anyways if Phil was such a bad influence on Genesis how do you explain Calling All Stations?

[kamwrites]

Oh lord, can we post a video WITHOUT the which-era-is-better debate? Especially if you're the one posting the video? Geez. That said, loving this, thank you!

[TheFearlessFreep]

pop is poop

[lv4jazzer]

I agree with 19rocker19. Genesis was a phenomenal band until the 80's. After their album And Then There Were Three I stopped listening to them and buying their records.

[Rhapsidous]

Simply amazing!

[beprepared100]

Squonk is reported to be a creature inhabiting the Hemlock forests of northeastern Pennsylvania

[southsimpleman]

This is one of the last "Genesis sounding" songs. Might be we find others in the "Then there were 3" record... Unfortunately after that Phil Collins fell in the music bussiness (and he prove to be very good in that field too), dragging some other musicians with him (Clapton, Knopfler, etc.). Even if I never was a great Genesis accolyte (except from Hackett) I get on my knees when talking about this band.

[ravenmek]

@southsimpleman I doubt you could say it was Collins' fault... Peter Gabriel made pop songs in the 80's too... It was the way they find to survive in a hostile musical environment... I really like some of their pop songs, though!

[matthew3774]

Looking at the comments, interesting how many people had Genesis suggested to them by their parents, the same happened to me! "Go West, Young Man!"

[chordsequencer001]

Genesis, even tho they're my favorite band, I still think Tony Banks chords should have come out a bit more...:)

[highgroundstrike]

@wolkenburger me too mate, but I right love their classics like this

[wolkenburger]

Thanks dad, for telling me: "listen to genesis" (im 16) :D

[TheSon104]

Calling me an "asswipe" reflects the fact, you never understood one single word or note of Genesis. It's not about "Manchester United", you know?!

Go, have fun with intellectually reduced people like you are, motherfucker!

[TheSon104]

Phil Collins is the best singer in the world!!! Who gives a fuck on Peter Gabriel?!

[fredrums1952]

@TheSon104 Peter Gabriel was Genesis you asswipe w/o Gabriel there would be NO Genesis, look where Genesis is today..... No where, have you heard of a Genesis concert/ tour ???

[autodude6]

@jujujijijaja...I'm right with you there, same with my dad. Disappointed this version of Squonk was never released, not even on the Genesis Archives

[azmatt73]

Phil looks like he was shipwrecked for a few weeks

[rushrules1968]

This is awesome.

[flatwalkman]

GREAT BAND!

[jujujijijaja]

I'm 25 and I can't thank my dad enough for this music... not like the shit dumbass "kids" listen to today...

[gacci777]

As a longtime Rush fan I am appreciating how they were influenced by Genesis.The beginning of Squonk seems like it influenced Rush's beginning of their song"A farewell to king's which came out a year and change later.This tune is pure loud unadulterated prog rocknroll.This is one of the best songs ever made.Collins high notes he sings on this and the range of vocal pitch is Magnificent.The lyrics the intonations and enunciation that he sings.What a great contribution these guys gave to humanity.

[kelownagamermom]

Next to "Entangled", this is perhaps my favourite song by Genesis. Still one of the best concerts of the 70's I ever saw. Was always sorry Phil Collins went to sentimental pop crap in the 90's. He had a great rock voice.

[amadah3]

This is my favorite song by Genesis. Loving this live.

[sandey1234]

AmyK Phil is very good drummer, and singer, and the band has always been good, with or without......

[stephenmathes]

this is raw...love it...they have done some good stuff since...all artists change...deal or leave

[jebodiahsmith]

Story of my life ...

[wjv4me]

Love this song - saw them play this in Chicago, IL USA. Thanks for the uploads.

Probably my fav. Geneis song.

[Big5XL]

do you ever listen to real said music over and over so that you feel some pain inside? I had A TRICK OF THE TAIL in 1985 when my mind was getting messied up from too much stress.

[Big5XL]

A good song to feel depressed to!!!

[skiingrhino]

Nicely Done !

[maurovisk2]

Dear so... what do I call you??? Well, put it aside... would explain where the hell Peter Gabriel took off that triangle from "Mercy Street"( of course he was no longer Genesis lead singer)??? He is classical backgrounded and even though, that instrument and and sound is BRAZILIAN. You really think you're an smart ass, don´t you boy. By the way, I am from Brazil. And guys like Sinatra were deeply influenced by our music!

:-)

[yoyoma41]

which bandlooks like there enjoying what there doing pete or collins?

[MacGrurry]

you CANNOT overthink this Genesis stuff. There was Hackett and Gabriel, then there were three. both bands have impressive merits and to sit around thinking that one is better than the other because they were LESS commercial or hit song oriented, that's screwy, because the dame guys that made us LOVE the band were STILL in it!!! The guys were trying to carry on, they weren't clerks or Waiters or Postal workers, they were musicians and they carried on. so cut 'em some slack and Love the product :)

[bigwo56]

I've allways loved this song!!! brings back loads of memories!!!!

[N1095A]

Being from North Central Pennsylvania I'd heard the legend of the Squonk for many years. i've always loved the song, but this version blows away any I've heard before or since. Phil is a great performer. There are those who would argue to the death, but I think he's much better than Pete. Pete's great in his own right, but as for Genesis, Phil's a much better fit.

[mikelmart]

Saw TOTT tour in 1976 and I remember the base pedal at 5:34 resonating through my chest. Awesome!!!

[Durkosis]

The day before my birthday, must have known I was being born 7 years later haha!!

[squonkness]

Weather Report was a jazz "supergroup" co-founded by saxophonist Wayne Shorter and keyboardist Joe Zawinul. The band was considered by many to be one of the most significant modern influences on jazz and jazz-fusion. Thompson went to jam with the band and was eventually offered the drummer's seat.

[WouterJ]

I like this version better than the one from "Three sides" because of the sound quality and the Piano that Tony Banks is using. And Darryl Steurmer has a better sound going on than Steve Hackett. But at the same time I'm glad that Steurmer doesn't try to change Hackett's lines.

[stereom]

There's no "Squonk" on Three Sides Live. Given you prefer Stuermer to Hackett however, I take it that you're referring to the Seconds Out version. Better sound? That's subjective. They obviously use different guitars. Stuermer tends to rely on Fender strats, whereas Hackett is known for using Les Paul or whatever other Gibson guitars he's playing. I'm more of a Gibson type myself. Also, Hackett has his unique sound and identity and no amount of Daryl shredding can compensate for the lack of it.

[PeterMayer]

@stereom But in all fairness, he sounded better doing this on the 78 tour. Plus, he did shine on some songs, especially In The Cage, Fountain Of Salmascis.

[stereom]

Also, one has to consider that Hackett's guitar parts were often mixed low on Seconds Out. Maybe that contributes to the sensation of an underwhelming guitar sound? Hardcore fans say that one should listen to the bootlegs from the W&W tour as guitar is more audible. I can't rule out the notion that perhaps the trio is so pleased with Stuermer's contributions that they give his sound more presence and room live than Hackett (obviously at odds with Banks) was ever given.

[PeterMayer]

I prefer the live recordings that King Bisquit did over Seconds Out.

[capevideo]

Please God, do not take any of these guys from us anytime soon.

[astroTaurin]

This is a great live.

I have it on DVD.

Phil really performes well on this one. You can say anything about him, but he's actually a born pop-star. And thats not definetally a bad thing. There are some really cool stars out there. Few, but some. He's one of them.

Oh and... This is not classical rock.

[chupacabras101]

What is the name of the DVD?

[11thearl]

I agree entangled1. I would add And Then There Were Three.

[wontgoquietly]

Very interesting live version of Squonk. If you watch the interviews from the TOTT DVD Tony says when they were auditioning singers they didn't think Phil would have a hard enough edge to his vocals on some of the songs. Guess he proved them wrong. While not my favorite song from that album, Squonk still has legs...but if you don't stand up, you don't stand a chance!

[entangled1]

Best two Genesis albums were written after pete left, (Trick of the tail) and (Wind and wuthering )

[mroblongo]

Agree 100% !

[tonyskins19]

if someone can tell me what is the loudest drums out there,and what size should your tom tom and snare be in order to play heavy and loud like phil collins john bonham and tony thompson of powerstation

[WouterJ]

Well a start would be to remove the resonator skins from your toms, Phil always plays without those because it gives him that "WHAP" he's known for. Add to the fact that he he has a monstrously agressive style and always uses reverb and gate on his drums to make them sound even more powerful does a lot. It's funny in a way, Phil is not a metal musician but has a sound and style most metal drummers would die for.

[drawbar888]

Rubbish. D. Streummer looks like a third-rate porno star.

[ss1020]

With all dues respect, you are an idiot...

[rushfan451]

thumbs up man....drawbar888 and ass, man

[otoya2006]

EVERYHING`S OK

[acelxpro]

magnificence performance.

[cungar]

Phil right before he start sucking commercial dick.

[19rocker19]

You wrote it perfectly!!!Phill Collins isgreat drummer and quite good singer..and he continued great after Peter gabriel left...but after 1980 he changed the band into ONE BIG SHIT!

[fg67hhkd9]

Yes. Domino, Fading Lights and The Brazilian is all commercial rubbish. Sounds like Kylie Minogue.

[knouraee]

How can The Brazilian sound like Kylie Minogue when it's an instrumental?

Congratulations, fg67hhkd9....you have been officially diagnosed as terminally stupid.

There is no cure, but you may be able to alleviate some of the symptoms by removing your head from your ass.

[frinkmhey]

Gee, I don't know, maybe it has to do with the fact that Kylie Minogue uses instrument sounds in her songs, and "The Brazilian" sounds like those instruments.

[batteur93]

Genesis is the GREATEST band of progressive rock in the world !!!!!!!!

Phil is a very good singer !

[ceazea]

@19rocker19 You cant just decide "I want the band to have a bunch of hits". It was because of him starting to write more that resulted in Face Value. That was an accident. So you have to think that most of the commercial success was more of an accident. To blame Phil is ignorant. If you want to blame something blame the addition of the drum machine to the band.

[ceazea]

@ceazea The Drum Machine changed the way they wrote music. And so did the keyboards that Tony was using. Gone were the Mellotrons and moogs and in came the Cheesy sounding "Brazillian" tones. Those old tones made the band sound more authentic and real. And the fake drums. Hugh even said it himself. "One thing I wish I could do and that would be to go back and re record the songs with electronics drums and re do them with acoustic drums".

[SPeacock]

@19rocker19 They did have SOME decent tunes after Duke, though - "Dodo/Lurker", "Abacab", "Mama", "Home by the Sea" and "Domino" to name a few.

[bcbest]

yup.

and started to pen syruppy Disney animated drek for money

[Bang0r]

You can't tell me that, if you had the song writing talent, and if you were offered millions to write Disney songs that you wouldn't do the same. Now, I'm not saying that the stuff that he wrote was any good. I hated it, but cut the guy some slack. There is no way anyone would've passed that up. And as for fg67hhkd9, you cannot tell me that those songs are not amazing. Though the best Genesis songs were written from Nursery Cryme to the Shapes Album, those songs are great.

[tenchimasake]

I agree. Some of the songs he wrote for Tarzan were nice, but nothing compared to his work with Genesis. Domino, Fading Lights and The Brazilian are great post-Gabriel Genesis songs. I also agree that the best Genesis songs were written from Nursery Cryme - Genesis, actually make that Trespass - Genesis, the songs on Invisible Touch and We Can't Dance on great pop songs. As for Calling All Stations...

[dave2806]

@cungar completely agree , peter was the man , Collins should have stuck to drumming !

[ueffect]

@dave2806 that would make them an instrumental band since Peter left on his own :/

[Sussudio70]

Awesome, even better than on the album, thanx for posting this.