C++0x lecture by Bjarne Stroustrup at UofT

[ohnniehickm24j]

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[Nialsh]

There is no mention of C++0x...

[nawkwan]

I'd to see DCS and ECE invite other pioneers who graduated from U of T (e.g. Kernighan, Aho, ...)m the University of Toronto and a Ph.D. in Electrical Engineering/Computer Science from Princeton University.

[WinterXL]

love these old school nerds and their crazy hair!

[GOOB3000]

WOAH! Bjarne is like... God.

[4Got10Shadow]

Danish guys are very smart people respect to them.

[dr1303]

... Is this guy danish?

[auv5]

@xnewagex Java is written completely in C so that it can be compiled for devices without a C++ compiler (yes, they exist.)

[ThePrivateJoker]

They should have sold tickets to this dammit.

[ThePrivateJoker]

Mr Stroustrup - Please use this axe on James Gosling's head. Thank you.

[shayanrafizadeh]

therefore god lectures;

[xnewagex]

C# and Java are written in C++ as someone said. I can't take people saying that C# or Java will take over C++. They run in different levels. A person who doesn't know or he is not very proficient programming in C/C++ is not a programmer.

Metalanguages allow you to do more close related business functionality, faster and easier but its puffysoft, with a lot of libraries that you don't need, runs over another running abstraction VM/JIT/... that makes the language is slower.

[GOOB3000]

@xnewagex "A person who doesn't know or he is not very proficient programming in C/C++ is not a programmer"

That makes no sense I'm afraid.

[freinnn]

C# compiler, Java and other languagues compilers are WRITTEN IN C++

[eedali77]

Learning C++ from Bjarne Stroustrop himself,, damn,, it's like hearing the 10 commandments from God himself :)

[burkeyturkey2000]

c++ will call this ~java() and java won't now what happened

[License2Bill]

no way...that's cool as hell I wish he'd come to my university

[1985Jayesh]

c++ is great...

[rbscholtus]

@PersonOfBook

Java DOES allow pass by ref, in fact it is the only way to pass objects.

What Java lacks is declaring objects on the stack. Although this also simplifies programming and avoids bad programming habits.

@normalpsy

You can make parameters final (const), but that doesn't really help if the content of objects cannot be declared const from the outside.

@all

The whole discussion about which language is better is ridiculous. Use the right tool for the right job.

[antred11]

@rbscholtus What it also means is that there is no RAII in Java. Instead you have to muck about with fugly try-catch-finally blocks ... FAIL.

[MrRobertFritz]

What a popular, where? You can use C# on Xbox, windows, and windows phone. These are serious platforms. Don't need C++, D or whatever it is.

[armpitpuncher]

@MrRobertFritz Yes, you can use C# on XBox, Windows and IPhone. But not if you intend to compete with modern games, like Call of Duty, or The Sims 3, or Final Fantasy 13. You will probably use a game engine, like Unreal Engine, or CryEngine. And every last one of them is written in C++. Or you will create your own. In which case, you'll use C++. Even the CLR is written in C++.

[TheShadowsedge]

@MrRobertFritz

yes and C# uses just in time compilers that are made in C++ and the IDE you use is probably made in C/++. Also the large production Xbox software is made in c/++ not C#.

[fireguy1919alt]

what program was he showing

[fireguy1919alt]

what was the program he was showing

[jhardknox]

fail at using a camera

[EmuAddict]

Wow, I'd love to meet that guy.

[keithgarry]

@EmuAddict

no kidding,

one day with him and you're a pro

[Dose0fReality]

Its odd that so many people think c++ is an antiquated language. Most the programs you have on your computer were written in c++. Sure, its a tricky and finicky language but the tradeoff is that it is fast and flexible.

[DuelingMastery]

hey c++ is still alive. XD

[Firebugzme]

Look at his uniform, no time for making it look good, why? no flat iron at home

[ManOfMeans]

@Firebugzme  Maybe it's been a long day?

[0121ryanh117]

@Firebugzme He is teaching, not modelling.

[Firebugzme]

@0121ryanh117 don't worry, calm down, calm

we're in good terms with Bjarne,

Plus plus is also good it works fine in my machine

[krittg]

he's probably too busy dealing with the c++ mess...

[pinochet222]

This man likes to talk! (and write)

Somebody killed 9 people throwing at them Stroustrup's book!!

true story

[musashikyo]

Yea.. C# killing C++ is complete BS.

Specially in the industry I work in alot of our server apps are purely written in C/C++.

C# definately has its uses in Web Developent and in house tools developement.

[codecaine]

@musashikyo yea C# is only windows c++ is everywhere

[MrRemington700]

it is stupid saying that C# will kill C++.

C# and C++ are for different purposes and C++ with java are most popular languages today

[dante4d]

@MrRemington700 I always remember that every OS kernel is writen in bits of ASM and lot of C and C++. Then come VM's for interpreted languages written in C++, like JVM or that .NET thing...

[ronny22]

@MrRemington700

thats tru all i know since i graduate this year is JAVA and C++ but majority of graduate iv been looking at are asking for CSharp its freaking scaring me man

i can be arse learing another language

[Matista19]

@MrRemington700 it's true!!! the language the most popular and used in the world are the languages JAVA and C++!! C# is not much used!! =) but the bets today are maybe ... JAVA !!!

[lcmy]

@MrRemington700 Not entirely true. C is still the most used language.

[MrRobertFritz]

@MrRemington700 Yes its stupid answer. html5 and javascript is the future!

[HawkEyeSlay]

C++ is very old. C# will kill it, and I will laughing, hahahah. :) C++0x try clone C# 3.0. :D:DD:D Poor trying.

[gannonscrub]

Yes, no one uses C++ anymore.

/sarcasm

[0121ryanh117]

@HawkEyeSlay I can think of one plus for C#, portability to the XBox 360.

I can think of many more pluses for C++ though, As the name, C++ implies.

[glassesization]

Idk, I see 4 plusses in C#. I only see 2 in C++. xD

[vicktech]

what adress of web site he is talking about?

[vicktech]

Bjarne, cut the shit, get to the point.

[Treekodar]

Can't believe someone from Denmark made C++

Amazing.

[supaflyjohnson]

Skandaløst...

[FaulknerCk2]

yea it's a lesson for people who thinks only US rules the world.

[Sandman267]

1:43 guy picking his nose x)

[yarahahrwe]

I hope I get to attend graduate school at a real Uni, with friggin famous people like this around the place. To be taught something ubiquitous by the guy that invented it is such a surreal notion to me.

[antred11]

Hehe, had to laugh about that quote he gave where someone wrote that by 1998, Java would have totally killed C++. The only thing Java is ever going to kill is itself, hopefully.

[PersonOfBook]

@antred11 Ya Java is stupid, I mean what is the point of not allowing passing by reference, seriously. Initially it also didn't have generics and enums, but later it had to add it.

[normalpsy]

@PersonOfBook Java deals with objects as if they are references, When you pass an object by value in Java you are really passing its reference by value. The main complaint with C#/Java amongst C++ devs is the lack of const-correctness in regards to that issue.

[PersonOfBook]

@normalpsy Actually C# does allow passing by reference by using "ref" or "out" keyword but Java Lacks this facility, which kinda sucks!

[PersonOfBook]

@normalpsy I know that Java passes the references of objects by value. But what if I want to modify an integer variable inside a function and return that value. That you cannot do in Java without using wrapper classes or arrays. For example, it is tricky to write even a function as simple as "swap" in java, which swaps two values.

[normalpsy]

@PersonOfBook Yes, thats where Java sucks ;p

[dante4d]

@PersonOfBook If you're not passing final objects as parameters, it will work. It just won't work for primitives and autoboxed primitives. You can change the original objects, because what you get into the method is a copy of a reference to the original objects outside the called method. Not a big deal IMHO.

[nathansteel86]

C++ is awesome

respect

[attractor89]

I couldn't apply for admission to TAMU because I missed the deadline. How unfortunate for me that I won't be able to listen to this guy. :(

[evil666man666]

this is BA1130 I think...I cant believe the inventor of C++ was the room I have my calculus lectures at !!

[luowilliam]

damn i missed this, when was this

[Phibins]

hahah... this is in BA....

[lexsoft]

I want to know his opinion of C# (created by another Denish programmer, Anders Hejlsberg), which I think has conveyed a few notion already found in JAVA.

[lexsoft]

I am imagining I was in the room listening him, or better he comes to my country and gives some rapid teaching to C++ fans.

[cstubing]

That's what I was trying to say, but my first post seems to have vanished into the ether.

You can go to slashdot and type "bjarne" into the search. There's an article from yesterday, 8-13, that links you to UWaterloo.

[shambler2007]

The full version is available at the CS club of the University of Waterloo site

[cstubing]

er, make that UWaterloo.. It just says T A&M on the screen for some other reason.

[WhiteNoize69]

Sorry. That's all I shot.

[doseryder]

You a grad student at U of T?

[xinov]

I would like to see and hear more of this!

/Michael