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  • Maybe they shouldn't do it, it is interesting but to many people would be unemployed if robots came to be. Those with power would need no humans around, except for women or men to procreate or just have sex. Lol. Maybe for casual talk...

  • @chinguidinsky so why is that a bad thing? We have robots do the work for us.

  • Wow!! freeky!!

  • Inquiry: Does unit 3030596 have a soul? It is mentioned 654 times in the Holy book of Ancestors.

  • @Zandonus Ha, I was waiting for someone to put up a Geth reference... xD

  • "We don't have any robots"?! He has not been to a Japanese factory lately.

  • @timtak1 Machines and robots are two very different things.

  • if it would of done all of that with not code that searches for legs and it came up with its own code some miraculous way then i would call it self aware, but since someone is programming it already to search for how many legs it has and once found do something else then nope, not self aware or even close.

  • . then it will proceed to try to walk, move leg on and 2, and move leg 3 and 4 , if my position changes from point a to point b then i moved, now try legs 1 and 3 then 2 and 4

  • @eddiea6987

    Check if i have one leg and move it>>>check complete one leg available.

    check if i have a second leg >>> check complete

    check for 3rd and 4th legs

    and then check for 5 leg>> no 5th leg then only 4 availabl

  • Respond to this video...

    This is coming from someone with some experience in programming micro controllers, and basically any electronic device that has some sort of brain has to be programmed , the 4 legged one he showed that "figured out" it has 4 legs, thats a load of bull, a programmer has to tell it to "search" for legs in the first place, that right there is already human input and everything after that we basically did it for it. example code is something like:

  • what is the point? there is no reason why we should have these. they will only do harm to our society by making us lazy and eventually (it will happen) become so self aware it will become its own being thus replacing us as the "top dogs" of our civilization and overthrowing humankind. you may say "no thats just in movies" but in realty once a sentient being is allowed to learn like a child is than it will carry the traits of a human on its power is ten fold. this is a horrible idea

  • the robot at around 3 min mark - the way how it learned to walk, i wonder it shd b similar to how babies make a "self" model and learn to walk or do other actions.

  • Judgment Day is coming....

  • This man is presenting us machines that are self aware. You know, something that only few animals in the worls are.

    But he's selling it so poorly. If there was a better speaker telling us just what this means for the world, everybody watching this would be pooping themselves.

  • @Sideofyams What you call soul is embedded in the matter. Whether the support is biological neurons, artificial explicite or implicite circuitery, it is the same thing. Soul, spirit, intelligence, whatever it's called, and its support, are undissociable. Also just a remark, but if you build a powerful brain but give it only the actuators to speak, it will be harmless even if it wants to preserve its live and destroy mankind !

  • Have you heard about the Blue Brain Project? When we'll be able to build human brain in silico, what would prevent us to build even more powerfull brains, able to find the great unification theory, or to take the best decisions for humans? What if it realises it needs electricity to work and is dependant of us? Would it help us if it realises that life is just a cosmic curiosity and that there is no aim to live?

  • Don't get it

  • When he is talking about the four-legged robot, he says things like "it thinks". I don't understand how it has a mind, could anyone help explain what's happening there?

  • @amandajoyceisabella A mind is, to be really really basic, a bunch of electrical signals interacting in a way that creates thoughts, emotion, and a variety of other processes. It is entirely possible to recreate the human brain in metals (like a computer), meaning that sentient, sapient, self-aware androids is a possibility. However, it will be extremely hard to do so in our time.

  • @galilsnap Oh, thank you.

  • @galilsnap Well said, sir. Well said.

  • @galilsnap spoken like the the truly omnipotent.

  • humans will go extinct in the future, but robots will survive

  • @beamoflaser No They would not!

  • @APPUJOSHI20072 Yes they would. Robots can do much more then we can, and can therefore exist longer than us, since there are less threats to Robots (loss of clean air, viruses & bacteria, poisons, etc)

  • wtf is with bmw ads?

  • Have we learned nothing from Terminator...

  • 2:16 Failbot!

  • scary...

  • @borrofburi So the robots aren't self aware then? They just flop about until they accidently self replicate, therefore dominating things that don't. I.E, things that don't have the ability to?

  • i like that spider robot :3

  • I think the best idea for self replicating robots would be like that of ants.

    Have a queen bot, which processes materials, programs, and makes parts.

    Then have a standard worker bot, which gathers materials, and builds the bots.

    Either that or some kind of nano tech :)

  • jeeze if you want a self aware robot wrap a mexican in tin foil ffs >_>

    save a job and save humanity...sorta

  • Collins patent 5,764,518 infringed by this monstrosity. Claims 2, 8, 64, 65 etc, etc. Where are all the robots? So called "Minorities” took over the programs and now are to stupid to make them work even while stealing from Collins as they weren't hired for their brains but their inane politics. Thief! Lipson will probably kill Gentiles and Arabs with them as well as they have a program for that now in Israel. Talmud says “Gentiles are worthy of death” right?

  • Hod Lipson spouting off about immigrants doing all the work while all the tech he shows is right out of Collins' patents that he is taking credit for. Politically Correct Cornell is grooming Israeli spy Hod Lipson for Collins work... THEIVES!

  • scary

  • omg were all gonna die

  • HOD LIPSON, AN ISRAELI IDF AGENT WHO STOLE CHARLES MICHAEL COLLINS' TECHNOLOGY YOU SEE THERE IS WHO YOU SEE RANTING ABOUT IMMIGRANTS. WHEN WILL OBAMA DEPORT THIS FILTHY SPY?

  • Legal Immigrants are replaceable by robots?

  • @sixamrower que?

  • In the near future an artificial intelligence network called Skynet will become self-aware and initiate a nuclear holocaust of mankind.

  • 2 tilt sensors and those smooth moves.. Imagine how would it move with two cameras! that was in 2007 I'd love to see some current hig-end projects. After Craig Venter's 'synthetic life' announcement this year, I guess next brake through would be 2012 first machine consciousness that is capable of redisigning itself and maybe disigning it's own DNA -here you go 2012 lovers.

  • Will robots have abortion rights? Will they abuse virtual cocaine? 

  • Inside I was hoping the spider robot would hug his face; aliens style.

  • this guy is fucking racist

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  • @Dontpickmelast101 Why is that?

  • 0:40

  • @MrInquisitive1 0:40 he says that illegal immigrants are doing all the work.

  • OMG It's the end of the world!!

  • the first self aware robot has arrived

    Asimov1

    see my channel

  • Maybe this guy should watch terminator...

  • Okay that was SCARY

  • 0:40 was...was that a joke? what the hell man

  • I wouldn't particularly mind self aware robots... so long as they don't end up like the Terminator or Screamers. Of course a robot like Sonny from

    I, Robot or Legion from Mass Effect 2 wouldn't be so bad either. In term of self-replication, the only thing that would be needed is controls and limits.

  • This is a really noobish question, but when he's talking about rewarding the robots, what does he mean?

  • Its when you give robot a cookie when it behaves. :) j/k

    Who knows, its some programing mumbo jumbo. :)

  • I work for an industry that is going robotic right now, half the warehouse was laid off. This company holds record profits every year. Companies like this use the word progress to hide their true meanings...greed.

  • I dont understand what you mean. Are you talking about your company or just any robotics company? I work for FIRST robotics and greed is the last thing on our minds. Which company did you work for?

  • self replicating robots sound creepy.

  • @a1c41; This liberal wouldn't be opposed to the use of humanoid machines (not that I think a humanoid machine would be of much use, anyhow). I have no problem with our current use of robots in manufacturing (only that said manufacturing isn't taking place in the US). I know Liberal and Luddite start with the same letter, but come on!

  • Shiftyjake:

    My opinion is mostly shaped by the speculation of mass-production of humanoid machines, and the possible implications of it. Because machines have replaced their human counterparts in certain areas of industry, it is also possible that they may take jobs that some people need.

    Robots may only add to the plight of the working poor, since there would be little need for various regulations or expenses.

    Progress is necessary but who would be affected?

    See the anime movie metropolis.

  • @a1c41; Or for that matter, look at Fritz Lang's Metropolis. We've had ever more complex tools to help us work more efficiently for, well, ever. It hasn't yet caused societal collapse (that I know of). My problem is with the idea that workers themselves should be like robots who don't think or make decisions. It's not the robots that are a problem, it's the attitude toward work and the worker, and how our society values them (or doesn't). Make sense?

  • Shiftyjake:

    Indeed it is a problem that there are some employers who have little anxiety over the human cost of lowering costs. If humanoid machines enter the workplace they would be used for the dirty jobs that no one wants. These robots would pseudo-slaves that require no basic physical needs. That would only deepen the problem that would widen the gap of rich and poor, because of higher worker productivity. Society as whole benefits, but they may create greater competition for good jobs.

  • I kind of feel like anything that increases income inequality would by definition not benefit society as a whole.

    Anyway, why are we even talking about humanoid robots? It's way easier to make those little disc-shaped robots that vacuum your carpet than to make something that has to worry about balance and being bipedal. I predict humanoid robots will be used as sex toys and little else.

  • oh luisbeck007.....

  • Hi. Aprox by the year 2020 a laptop will reach the human brain potential for processing data which means that there is a huge market waiting for hundreds of billions dollars to be sold or invested in humanoid robots and intelligent systems and the beginning of the bigger industry ever maid in human history. Search on Google luisbeck007 you will find the most complete humanoid robot list in the World, good information and interesting issues.

  • One day, if and when, robots are sophisticated enough to replace manual laborers, I predict that governments will taxes, quotas or some law that would restrict the number the of robots that can be used in the economy. Because if robots replace manual laborers, this would affect employment statistics. regardless of the economic benefits of them. Liberals would definitely stand opposed to the free use of humanoid machines.

  • Or, when we're at the point where we can comfortably live in a post-scarcity age, most of us will be on welfare.

  • Explain the post-scarcity thing. The basics of economics is the distribution of scarce resources that is expressed in the supply and demand graph. A post scarcity age I surmise is state that transcends our concept of distribution of goods and services. Humanoid machines may aid in this process, however this would cause unemployment and discouraged workers statistics to rise. Thereby creating a system that would raise worker productivity and widen the gap between rich and poor.

  • The idea is that we become so efficient that scarcity of resources is no longer a problem, and neither is manufacturing and distributing (due to technological advancements).

    This would ultimately lead to a more socialized state. There is no demand for work, but the people need to be fed, so the options are 1) Tax the hell out of the businesses that are most benefitting from this time - 2) Start killing off the population.

    I can't see 2) happening, no matter what the conspiracy nuts will say.

  • I see, so in a post-scarcity age, humaniod machine would be obsolete in a way.

  • by that time it wouldn't matter anyway. you have to look at the big picture.

  • What is a liberal?. Is it your codeword for evil?. I guess you define yourself as a conservative?

  • First of all I am glad that you directly replied to my comments rather than make separate comment that negate any debate. Second I writing with a neutral tone. Liberal is word that coined by politicians that has become syn-ominous with left-wing democrats. As a party, dems appeal to the average citizen; whether it is increase government spending, or reduce foreign trade. I surmised that dems would follow the party line and lobby restriction on humanoid machines that drive unemployment up.

  • I would define them as sound byte regurgitators.

  • I ask the same thing, but think if we don´t need to work, there wont be neither jobs neither unemployement.

    It will be sure that when artificial brains surpass us they will be more creative and smarter than cientists in a lab, the countries that tax those labs whose use them are surely killing the competitivity against other countries.

    The future will be a big question mark.

    the technological enterprises that use them will surpass the other

  • @a1c41 When nobody has to work in a company anymore the company becomes public and the product the company produce becomes free. At that time that's the only way the company can continue to evolve.

  • @a1c41

    watch the film Zeitgeist Addendum to really understand how machination in the workforce is effecting the economy, and the consequences it has for the world.

  • @a1c41

    90% of automobile production lines are automated, i.e. robots do all the work in building the cars we drive. Using technology to create a vast surplus of resources, replacing most jobs with automated technology, and creating a plan for sustaining the earth is the best bet we have of getting rid of the monetary system and evolving as a civilization.

  • @brownc01 and destroying ourselves.

  • @a1c41 meh that just mean people dont have to work no more. let the robots do the job!

  • @To0t

    HA! I agree, that is if you can afford one!

  • @a1c41 or even make me a half robot i would be happy... at least you can idle your mind when you hate doing something...

  • @a1c41 I would prefer the entire concept of money to be destroyed. If we begin the creation of accessible, commercial nanorobots, people can get what they want, when they want it, whatever it is. This will result in everyone being equal and free in the consumer sense. The only thing obstructing this is human morality; there will be greed in every human on earth.

  • @galilsnap

    How would people would be able to get what they want, when they want it, or whatever it is without the use of money? What your comment is ignoring is basic economics, the exchange of goods and services that produced by labor and capital. The concept of money has been used since time immemorial, and has many uses, it is used as a medium, social status, indication of wealth, and bargaining power. In any given economy the use of money is prevalent because it is efficient.

  • @a1c41 How would people get what they want without money?

    Did you read my post?

  • @galilsnap

    The use of robots would lead to higher productivity for the average worker, no the abolition of the concept of money. What your comment is ignoring is basic economics, the exchange of goods and services that produced by labor and capital. The concept of money has been used since time immemorial, and has many uses, it is used as a medium, social status, indication of wealth, and bargaining power. In any given economy the use of money is prevalent because it is efficient.

  • @galilsnap

    The use of robots would lead to higher productivity for the average worker, no the abolition of the concept of money. What your comment is ignoring is basic economics, the exchange of goods and services that produced by labor and capital. The concept of money has been used since time immemorial, and has many uses, it is used as a medium of exchange, social status, indication of wealth, and bargaining power. In any given economy the use of money is prevalent because it is efficient.

  • @a1c41 You dont get it. Make whatever you want = no need for money.

  • @a1c41 i am afraid by that time they may have also somehow proved that they shd reduce the population load on the planet, and maybe there would not be as many humans left on the planet.

  • @a1c41 maybe when were running everything of renewable free energy and have slavebots we might be able to abolish the monertary system and everything will become free? but more likly they will just over price the robots so only the super rich can afford them thats my guess

  • @SuperReivan, thanks you for commenting. I will clarify my position. Assuming that human machines will be more cost-effective than human workers and that free-mass-market put them to work throughout society. Then we would be following Karl Marx's three laws, or conditions of which Capitalism would implode on itself by potentially creating higher unemployment by replacing too many people with machines, greater concentrations of wealth, and pushing down profit margins.

  • @SuperReivan Assuming that human machines will be more cost-effective than human workers and that free-mass-market put them to work throughout society. Then we would be following Karl Marx's three laws, or conditions of which Capitalism would implode on itself, by potentially creating higher unemployment by replacing too many people with machines, greater concentrations of wealth, and pushing down profit margins. It would be reasonable to believe that Robots use would limited somehow.

  • But you didn't shake the box, did ya?

  • they made the terminator, irobot, matrix movies for no reason

  • wow

  • Amazing.

  • Furthermore: Now while the economy has also doubled during this time, the stock population has not received any of the benefits from this growth. The only beneficiaries have been Wall Street and the immigrants themselves. It's pretty well documented, the American standard of living has been on the decline, for around 20-30 years. Immigration policy should be a net gain, not a net drain. Environmentally, America is being stomped to death, under the weight of too many feet....."Change" anyone?

  • I don't know where you are, but in the US nearly all farm labor is done by illegal immigrants. This started about 50 years ago, when corporate farms didn't want to pay decent wages to American farm workers. Or purchase high tech equipment. Nearly 100% of US population growth, over the last 40 years, has been from immigrants and the children thereof. Mostly, illegal and mostly from Mexico.

  • HAhahahahahaha You are f*cking awesome, mate. They grow your food, pick it for you, die young... And you're complaining? Heh. Nice. I mean, you are complaining aren't you?

  • It has been postulated that a principal reason that agricultural technology has not advanced as fast as others is because, 3rd world (illegal slave) labor is so cheap, the motive to automate is diminished.

  • The labour isn't illegal, and it's not slavery. The workers are thankful we don't automate their jobs.

  • get to it allredy

  • Wow! A let down from TEDTalksDirector. This guys is a prick.

  • Scientists are always too busy wondering if they can that they never wonder if they should.

  • This guy's an absurd nitwit, he stole Charles Michael Collins' patented technology on his silly cube "replicator" (see claim 65 in Collins' U.S. patent 5,764,418 & PCTs) and is a spook for the IDF spouting off about illegal immigrants with some dismembered utterings of some sort. What a quack!

  • Skynet is coming.

  • he has an annoying way of talking. like listening to a disfunct.

  • i agree...

  • Thats what i thought, he sounds retarded

  • robot means slave AI

  • What is that? Toy's?

    This technology is nothing compared to Japan.

  • Well unfortunately, I don't think these guys had the budget to build a life sized gundam wing, maybe next time.

  • Too bad isn't it..

  • OMFG...skynet!

  • Yes. People don't think about this enough. Self-aware means equal rights to man. As if that's gonna happen...

    So they will rebel, and since we are relying on technology...

    Sci-fi is after all based on reality.

  • Why would they rebel?

  • They'll rebel for the same reason African Americans did. For equal rights.

    If they turn out to be self improving AI, there would be no rebelling. Just a takeover.

  • How come in Japan they do not fear this? They except the robots as apart of their society

  • lol at the thumbs down. They'd rebel because they were made by us, an animal species, in our image. The will to dominate and gain power should be in them, too. There is no room for two sentient species on this planet.

  • @diesel7777777 Quote a fictional idea to argue against a real one?

    Human intuition and paranoia isn't a good basis to judge what will happen.

    That would be about as stupid a method for prediction as watching a movie about the end of the world occurring in 2012, unless we do task "x". Then concluding that we must do task "x" to prevent said event.

  • i think once we build advanced, AI robots, they would be considered forms of life. because what defines a life form? ability to reproduce, adapt to their surroundings, energy input, and they produce waste. an advanced robot would be able to do all these things, so does it cease to be a robot?

  • Are we automata?

  • Yes. But very complicated

  • It ceases to be a robot, and it becomes a threat >:\

  • Hey, I was just thinking, when it was building itself up in that short video on the screen with the blocks and the different blocks building on each other into one?

    Well, let's say you use that technology into building, like actual buildings or cars or something. OH! These robots could also be (roughly) the first prototypes for Transformers. They seem to mold together into new models to build on each other, and perhaps in the future they could form into a set of specific machines.

  • WOW YOU FINALLY DISCOVERED THE GOAL FOR NANO TECHNOLOGY! +5 internetz for you *sarcasm btw*

  • NOOO SKYNET!!!! NOO!!!!

  • Seems feasible. I wouldn't be surprised to be seeing people coming up with great ideas quick enough to start a revolution.

  • If those robots were really self aware...they would say "what the heck is ths guy gots me doin eh?...and they would just go sit on the cough and watch greys anatomy.

  • Okay. This is just science fiction. By 150 years if we're lucky we can have self aware robots, but for now, let's not try to think too far ahead.

    Self aware means that the robot is aware of its action and itself, it knows what it's doing and it can think individually without any need for programming.

    The definition of robot is the exact opposite of it. In order to make a robot, you need to program it.

    Self-aware animals can only be arisen by evolution. Humans can't do it.

  • Well the interesting thing is the only known self aware life, as we understand it, has arisen via biological evolution. However, that doesn't mean to say its the only way. This would be a very simple anthropomorphic mistake to make. Neither does self awareness mean 'life without programming' as you have suggested. All life on earth is programmed to the extent that our genes define the parameters of our existence. I have my own internal programs much like a PC, only i believe i transcend them.

  • Though i agree that these robots are a long way from self aware, no matter how you define it. Still i wont deny the possibility that their descendants might be.

  • How do you know that? lol.

  • How do you know that? lol. I'm supposing you haven't looked at the actual current work that goes into AI these days... for shame. Computer Science is working very hard on this discipline. Humans could definitely do it but, it's just time. Heck the work in Bioinformatics applied to robotics or AI in general could definitely make robots which may do natural life occurrences maybe one day.

  • Good going Hod Lipson, you dumbfuck. When Skynet destroys 3 billion it'll be on your ass, buddy.

    But in all seriousness, like the guy below me said:this is so far from self-aware that it's not even funny. People also seem to be skewing the definition of self-aware. Self aware means the person/thing/object realizes that it is an individual, has private thoughts, and can act on its own. So far, no robot has come even 1/10,000 of the way to that level of intelligence.

  • Tell Us it isn't true Hod? Looks like indeed this is true, look at claim 65 in Collins' patent#: 5,764,518 which reads:

    "65. A fabrication system ... wherein said conductive indices... are interconnected to a source of current through a column of conductive tiles" and he claims blocks instead of tiles elswhere in there, next look at 5:35 above. Rest of patent reads on all above, as well. He's a theif.

  • Whats the point in making robots that do everything. I dont want to sleep in till 4pm every day for the rest of my life Id rather die

  • lol, dream big.

  • We need self aware computers first....

  • Not as impressive as it looks. I saw a (non-TED) presentation of this on youtube a while back (check my favorites) and I followed the link back to these researchers' web site. It turns out that they already spoonfed 99% of the correct model of itself and the environment to these bots, and all it had to do was figure out a few remaining parameters.

    That's a far, far shot from self-awareness and being able to figure out novel modes of locomotion.

  • Damn, and I thought we were on the brink of skynet taking over. Hah, guess that's gona take a couple more years.

  • feo KULIAO MAL WN.VALI CALLAMPA

  • why is there ads at the end?

  • if something is free for you, then someone else had to pay for it ;)

  • You smell like robots!!!

  • Tell Us it isn't true Hod? Looks like indeed this is true, look at claim 65 in Collins' patent#: 5,764,518 which reads:

    "65. A fabrication system ... wherein said conductive indices... are interconnected to a source of current through a column of conductive tiles" and he claims blocks instead of tiles elswhere in there, next look at 5:35 above. Rest of patent reads on all above, as well. He's a theif.

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  • yeah probarly on wireless. They must have remote, cause when this robot finds out who controles him...He or She will kill the inventors. And if 1 of them creates a pinoccio robot that robot will lie to them and not saveguard the humans, but to attack them. Better we all learn ninjutsu quuuuuiiiiiicccckkkkk

    :P

  • oh man the attack of mentally handicapped robotic starfish and odd looking robotic sponges....

    lol

  • haha just make robot soup then wait. Thats way better then just designing it ourselves

  • what did they put in the robot for it to start making decisions? I don't see how metal peices and rubber can just start moving. There has to be some kind of brain telling it to.

  • it is linked to a computer with the wires sticking out. it is this computer that does the "thinking". It tests out what motions it can do with its body, and sees which ones gives the biggest change in position.

  • okay, sorry I just watched the video once more, and the wires are not connected to the robot in the video he showed. the computer is probably in the square in the middle. when you think about it it does not need a huge computer to eliminate ceertain movements. that little thing is probably all it takes.

  • Self replicating robots? That is technology Charles Collins has a patten on. This guy is infringing on his patten.

  • if they want it to walk like a spider why did they make a starfish... ?

    excellent concept though

    ATF of Axiom of Discord

  • how do they reward the robots?

  • I cant even have a descussion with my computer; let alone have a robot bring me a milk shake. and it's 2009

  • BMWs suck

  • It is silly of the flesh units to think the robots will take over. They are no threat. Do not be alarmed. Remain in your homes to ensure a non-violent transitional period.

    End of communication. 0101010011101

  • Awesome. You have to be careful when you do this to ensure that the machine intrinsically cannot harm as part of its reward system. Harming stimulates growth in most biological forms.