My personal favorite has to be Celestial Navigation, but every one of the episodes was an utter gem. It's impossible to say what was the best one. Aaron Sorkin, please do another show, or a movie, or something to rescue us from the less than brilliant writing that is on TV and in the movies now for the most part!
God I miss this show! I live in Plymouth, MA...who wants to get together within a 50 mile radius 1 day a month and watch 4 episodes that day all as a group? I own the box set and will welcome anybody who loves the show and or has not seen it to enjoy it with me and others! Such a great show! Bartlett 2012!
When she states she wouldn't stop for red lights she's saying no matter what it would take(breaking the law and risking her own life) she would get to the hospital as quick as possible
I guess what's she is telling him is how much she cares for him.
It appears from the beginning of this clip that he didn't know she felt that way about him.
I didn't watch the show so I would like to know how he reacted and did it change their relationship.
"I'm going to give ya a gift right now, that you dont deserve"...."Donna, if you have you old catholic School girl uniform under that....thanks".....lol lol lol That was awesomely funny.....and instantly put my imagination to work with visions of Hot ass Donna in that uniform. When she says 'I wouldnt stop for red lights"....I want to jump her bones right then.
I agree with you on this being the best episode. Yes, there are tons of other brilliant ones to choose from, but I cannot get over the Toby scenes in this episode. Rarely has any show taken my breath away as this one did. As a contrast to that intensity, these scenes with Josh and Donna are just beautiful in a subtle way.
I want YOUTUBE to put the ENTIRE series on it's site. It's perfect for it and possibly be 'continued' into the next Administration (Jimmy Smits). Mr. Smits has been snake bit as it seems when it comes to his series'.
And I'd LOVE to have seen more...what happens to Greg Brock? What do CJ and Charlie do? Does Zoey marry Charlie? Getting Sam back was a master-stroke, could do much more with that, and develop new relationships with some of the Santos people and Sam and Josh and Donna. The Josh-Donna relationship built for years, and you could do years just on those two. CJ and Danny have a baby? I love it. Danny was one of my favorites (along with Brock, can you tell I'm interested in journalism?)
There's some great moments in the final 3 seasons, individual episodes (King Corn) I really love, but overall the earlier ones are better, you're right. Worst example? Zoey's "rescue". That kidnapping was the single most gut-wrenching thing imaginable, and they just put NOTHING into it. "Oh, they found her, she's OK, that's it, move on." Crazy.
Do disagree with Toby, who WOULD have done what he did to save lives, thinking it was the right thing, he was driven by his view of morality.
I don't know if this was necessarily the best Sorkin episode. I do know that the first four seasons of The West Wing were solid gold, and seasons 5 through 7 were nothing but a series of out-of-character diatribes, terrible dialog, and unnecessary plot inversions. It was as though every character lost 200 SAT verbal points in season 5. The story lines were amazingly tense, but there was no arch to the teleplay, so it just left the audience feeling uneasy. And the cold opens were just bad.
e.g. the whole toby going to the press thing? i've studied his "we are a team" speech from "war crimes" (3.6); the man who gave that speech would not have betrayed any one he considered a friend, least of all his president!
I rather like "Bartlet for America," and I include the teaser in the subsequent episode, "H. Con - 172" for the killer last line delivered by the late, great John Spencer.
Oh wow, there are many that would beat this one. Like The Stackhouse Filibuster when everyone figures out about the autistic grandson or Two Cathedrals when POTUS is cursing God or Galileo when Sam rewrites the intro or The Supremes with Glenn Close and William Fichtner or And It's Surely To Their Credit with John Larroquette and the "bat"
Wow!...What a great scene...Did you see how Donna jumped at Josh with teenage crush eyes and listening interest when she asked him "where ya going?" (in her mind...without me I an so in love with you Josh...please take me...lol).. After he just got done busting her chops....Great writing...one of my favorite scenes. The "I wouldn't stop for red lights" is killer. The couple character development here through the years was one of the best on TV ever in my opinion. Luke and Laura who??????????
I love the "wouldn't stop for a red light" part, but i am wondering if it is actually significant to donna's accident. Was there a josh related reason she was driving unsafely? I just cant seem to find anyting like that. I am a continuity freak so was just wondering if anyone knew.
IMHO it's not to be taken literally beyond what's said in this clip. It's simply wordplay: how Donna compares to her ex-boyfriend having stopped in a situation when he shouldn't have, that Donna says for Josh that she wouldn't stop in a situation that she should.
bluechair244, this episode was in the third season after Josh had been shot. So it could be a reference to the fact that at one point, she /had/ rushed to the hospital to see him.
no this wasn't' it..when he was shot Donna showed up at the hospital because the President had been shot..she was unaware that Josh was hurt at all(other characters had to break the news to her when she arrived at the hospital)
agrees with giffone2...its nearly impossible to choose a fave WW episode...im sure we all have our own...mine personally is 20 hours in America...and the inaugral episode from the same season...but if i watched the dvds i would find new faves almost every time...Noel...etc etc
I agree with you. Mine is when JOsh tells the story of Blind Willie Johnson. As a Blues man, I knew the story, but it was so well written, that it really moved me when I heard it told by Josh. Or maybe it's when Sam told Malory he slept with a call girl... (I have a thing for redheads) This is my favorite TV Series of all time, and my series collection is one of my most fav. things that I own.
i am not sure of the name of my fav, but it was the post 9/11 show when everyone was locked down in the white house while a high school group was on a tour. amazing dialogue.
actually it's not season 3 episode 1. It is additional episode to make a donation. The story doesn't link to any episode (neither before nor after). I might say that it is season 3 episode 0. Hahahaha...
It was the first episode of the Third Season called Ismael something something... it was an out of season show so it did not interact the shows timeline
The West Wing , from beginning to end was one of the most intelligently written and best acted shows ever on television. To choose an episode as the "BEST ONE" would be almost impossible, however the only episodes that weren't amazing were the ones when Sorkin wasn't there.
@goldiloks08 me too! me too!! I love it. The thing is she totally wouldn't stop for red lights. I love them... I love her.... I love him. There is some serious love going on here. There is an amount of perfection between them that is completely amazing. Ok I'm done gushing now. :D
@halliwellsis93 haha! yeah, every once in a while i stumble across a moment that reminds me why i have loved this show so much for so long. this is one of those moments in a big way.
You had Toby with Leo and Bartlet in the Oval office, and Josh&Donna and Sam&Ainsley in the Roosevelt Room... Only one missing is CJ. Anyway, this is THE best episode ever!!!
Are you kidding that's what happened every time the camera was off them. You can always assume when we're with the president and leo in the sit room that josh is somewhere with donna
Amazingly well written--perfect Aaron Sorkin, perfect acting by Brad and Janel and perfect delivery. This show set a bar that has not since been passed. Even the Sopranos (which I love) had more freedom and still.........TWW is the standard.
"...What the hell is happening now." ^_^
nfinn42 3 weeks ago
My personal favorite has to be Celestial Navigation, but every one of the episodes was an utter gem. It's impossible to say what was the best one. Aaron Sorkin, please do another show, or a movie, or something to rescue us from the less than brilliant writing that is on TV and in the movies now for the most part!
eslomovits 3 weeks ago
So subtle. So nuanced. Yet DAMN Donna's line about red lights just hits you out of nowhere! This really was remarkable television!
radioman312 1 month ago
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God I miss this show! I live in Plymouth, MA...who wants to get together within a 50 mile radius 1 day a month and watch 4 episodes that day all as a group? I own the box set and will welcome anybody who loves the show and or has not seen it to enjoy it with me and others! Such a great show! Bartlett 2012!
bsgtrekfan88 2 months ago
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bsgtrekfan88 2 months ago
yes and it did they always cared for each other
1burnman 4 months ago
Figures, the "Best Sorkin" episode was initially written to be cheap and to pad out the show count.
FreedInsanity 4 months ago
Shouldn't "Best Sorkin Episode" be "all of them" ?
cct505 4 months ago 7
When she states she wouldn't stop for red lights she's saying no matter what it would take(breaking the law and risking her own life) she would get to the hospital as quick as possible
I guess what's she is telling him is how much she cares for him.
It appears from the beginning of this clip that he didn't know she felt that way about him.
I didn't watch the show so I would like to know how he reacted and did it change their relationship.
bornbillsmith 4 months ago
I love great writing
krxahfb 5 months ago 8
None of the tv-shows today are as good as the West Wing was...
violettopaz 7 months ago 3
"oh honest to god, do you ever get tired of the sound of your own voice?"
"no. no, no, no"
haha
Wings523 7 months ago 5
"I'm going to give ya a gift right now, that you dont deserve"...."Donna, if you have you old catholic School girl uniform under that....thanks".....lol lol lol That was awesomely funny.....and instantly put my imagination to work with visions of Hot ass Donna in that uniform. When she says 'I wouldnt stop for red lights"....I want to jump her bones right then.
stevegoff420 8 months ago 2
I agree with you on this being the best episode. Yes, there are tons of other brilliant ones to choose from, but I cannot get over the Toby scenes in this episode. Rarely has any show taken my breath away as this one did. As a contrast to that intensity, these scenes with Josh and Donna are just beautiful in a subtle way.
fingerless456 9 months ago
I love how this happens, and then a few years later she's in Israel.
spiderbob 9 months ago
I love that. "What the hell is happening right now?"
Photohog4 10 months ago
by no means the best episode. good, but not the best
trijjj 11 months ago
I want YOUTUBE to put the ENTIRE series on it's site. It's perfect for it and possibly be 'continued' into the next Administration (Jimmy Smits). Mr. Smits has been snake bit as it seems when it comes to his series'.
Jeffersonman1 1 year ago
@Jeffersonman1 It shouldn't be continued, it would ruin it. It's perfect as it is :-D
Jessica1608 10 months ago
@Jessica1608 Yes your absolutely right
Jeffersonman1 6 months ago
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I hate Donna, forgive me. Amy rules.
2nantucket 1 year ago
And I'd LOVE to have seen more...what happens to Greg Brock? What do CJ and Charlie do? Does Zoey marry Charlie? Getting Sam back was a master-stroke, could do much more with that, and develop new relationships with some of the Santos people and Sam and Josh and Donna. The Josh-Donna relationship built for years, and you could do years just on those two. CJ and Danny have a baby? I love it. Danny was one of my favorites (along with Brock, can you tell I'm interested in journalism?)
PrisonerNumber9653 1 year ago
There's some great moments in the final 3 seasons, individual episodes (King Corn) I really love, but overall the earlier ones are better, you're right. Worst example? Zoey's "rescue". That kidnapping was the single most gut-wrenching thing imaginable, and they just put NOTHING into it. "Oh, they found her, she's OK, that's it, move on." Crazy.
Do disagree with Toby, who WOULD have done what he did to save lives, thinking it was the right thing, he was driven by his view of morality.
PrisonerNumber9653 1 year ago
I don't know if this was necessarily the best Sorkin episode. I do know that the first four seasons of The West Wing were solid gold, and seasons 5 through 7 were nothing but a series of out-of-character diatribes, terrible dialog, and unnecessary plot inversions. It was as though every character lost 200 SAT verbal points in season 5. The story lines were amazingly tense, but there was no arch to the teleplay, so it just left the audience feeling uneasy. And the cold opens were just bad.
scoggles 1 year ago 4
@scoggles i could not possibly agree more.
e.g. the whole toby going to the press thing? i've studied his "we are a team" speech from "war crimes" (3.6); the man who gave that speech would not have betrayed any one he considered a friend, least of all his president!
goldiloks08 1 year ago
I rather like "Bartlet for America," and I include the teaser in the subsequent episode, "H. Con - 172" for the killer last line delivered by the late, great John Spencer.
NobodyKA1 1 year ago
Shut Up! Do you ever get tired of your own voice. NOOOOOO.
Prime4571 1 year ago 4
"you know there are times when, to put it quite simply - I hate your breathing guts"
I love it :-)
eilidhw 1 year ago 2
great scene yes, but THE best of sorkin, i think not
jillhbaudhaan 1 year ago
Then what would you call the best of Sorkin?
abhisheksab 1 year ago
Oh wow, there are many that would beat this one. Like The Stackhouse Filibuster when everyone figures out about the autistic grandson or Two Cathedrals when POTUS is cursing God or Galileo when Sam rewrites the intro or The Supremes with Glenn Close and William Fichtner or And It's Surely To Their Credit with John Larroquette and the "bat"
jillhbaudhaan 1 year ago 8
@jillhbaudhaan
ominoreg 1 year ago
@abhisheksab Anything thing that involves Claudia Jean Cregg.
JessicaVictification 1 year ago
Wow!...What a great scene...Did you see how Donna jumped at Josh with teenage crush eyes and listening interest when she asked him "where ya going?" (in her mind...without me I an so in love with you Josh...please take me...lol).. After he just got done busting her chops....Great writing...one of my favorite scenes. The "I wouldn't stop for red lights" is killer. The couple character development here through the years was one of the best on TV ever in my opinion. Luke and Laura who??????????
stevegoff420 1 year ago 6
Would it be alright if *I* saw the Catholic school uniform? Please?
sunnchilde 1 year ago 3
This is an amazing scene one of my top 100.
Seriously~ thank you for posting it. I love it.
thisisreallygreat 2 years ago 5
I wish someone would post the scene in the bar with Sam and Will , where he told Will to tell the widow he would run for the seat.
cawsnallthis 2 years ago 3
I wonder if the actors now think that will I get another role this brilliantly written. The answer is probably not and that is a shame.,
Prime4571 2 years ago 2
"Donna, if you've got your old Catholic school uniform on under there - don't get me wrong I applaud the thought but..."
and Donna can't help but smile at that, as provocative as Josh is being
democrat10 2 years ago 4
I love the "wouldn't stop for a red light" part, but i am wondering if it is actually significant to donna's accident. Was there a josh related reason she was driving unsafely? I just cant seem to find anyting like that. I am a continuity freak so was just wondering if anyone knew.
bluechair244 2 years ago
She's showing her loyalty. This is seen later when Josh is shot.
Sparks127 2 years ago
IMHO it's not to be taken literally beyond what's said in this clip. It's simply wordplay: how Donna compares to her ex-boyfriend having stopped in a situation when he shouldn't have, that Donna says for Josh that she wouldn't stop in a situation that she should.
M946 2 years ago 6
bluechair244, this episode was in the third season after Josh had been shot. So it could be a reference to the fact that at one point, she /had/ rushed to the hospital to see him.
Ethmae 2 years ago
no this wasn't' it..when he was shot Donna showed up at the hospital because the President had been shot..she was unaware that Josh was hurt at all(other characters had to break the news to her when she arrived at the hospital)
CubsinNY 2 years ago
"You told me it was a... late thaw."
I love his face when he says that.
wrestlingdog 2 years ago 5
agrees with giffone2...its nearly impossible to choose a fave WW episode...im sure we all have our own...mine personally is 20 hours in America...and the inaugral episode from the same season...but if i watched the dvds i would find new faves almost every time...Noel...etc etc
Cabaret43 2 years ago 16
I agree with you. Mine is when JOsh tells the story of Blind Willie Johnson. As a Blues man, I knew the story, but it was so well written, that it really moved me when I heard it told by Josh. Or maybe it's when Sam told Malory he slept with a call girl... (I have a thing for redheads) This is my favorite TV Series of all time, and my series collection is one of my most fav. things that I own.
OccamsRazors 2 years ago
i am not sure of the name of my fav, but it was the post 9/11 show when everyone was locked down in the white house while a high school group was on a tour. amazing dialogue.
linzzyy 2 years ago
@linzzyy Issac and Ishmael Season 3 Episode 1
biggicoc 2 years ago
actually it's not season 3 episode 1. It is additional episode to make a donation. The story doesn't link to any episode (neither before nor after). I might say that it is season 3 episode 0. Hahahaha...
wisnuops 2 years ago
It was the first episode of the Third Season called Ismael something something... it was an out of season show so it did not interact the shows timeline
pavansapra 2 years ago
"You ever get tired of the sound of your own voice?"
"Nooooooo"
Typical Donna and Josh.
shutterflie 2 years ago 7
Josh is cute as frig with the longer hair.
Screw it, I think Bradley is hot.
jimbobjimminy 2 years ago 71
Join the club.
And a good actor.
And funny.
And REALLY hot.
shutterflie 2 years ago 3
One thing amazing about this show was that the pilot was as equally brilliant as every other episode.
Balin62 2 years ago 8
The West Wing , from beginning to end was one of the most intelligently written and best acted shows ever on television. To choose an episode as the "BEST ONE" would be almost impossible, however the only episodes that weren't amazing were the ones when Sorkin wasn't there.
giffone2 2 years ago 13
"if YOU were in an accident, i wouldn't stop for red lights." *SQUEEE!!!* omfg, i love Jonna.
goldiloks08 2 years ago 93
@goldiloks08 me too! me too!! I love it. The thing is she totally wouldn't stop for red lights. I love them... I love her.... I love him. There is some serious love going on here. There is an amount of perfection between them that is completely amazing. Ok I'm done gushing now. :D
halliwellsis93 1 year ago
@halliwellsis93 haha! yeah, every once in a while i stumble across a moment that reminds me why i have loved this show so much for so long. this is one of those moments in a big way.
goldiloks08 1 year ago
@goldiloks08 do you mean Donna or Josh or some hybrid of the two??
escorpious3 4 months ago
game on
hitch4645 2 years ago
Except this plot is the B-plot line of the episode.
Surax 2 years ago
that's what makes it so great - this was a secondary plot and it was awesome!
step5732 2 years ago 2
This is my favourite episode too!!
It´s just perfect! It has everything!
You had Toby with Leo and Bartlet in the Oval office, and Josh&Donna and Sam&Ainsley in the Roosevelt Room... Only one missing is CJ. Anyway, this is THE best episode ever!!!
I miss The West Wing!!
UniqueMakis 3 years ago 7
CJ and Danny are also a great mix with professional and social scenes
BERGRS 2 years ago
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albiondreaming 3 years ago
Maybe that's because Sorkin had nothing to do with the show in season 5, 6, or 7!
DGB85 3 years ago
i also think this is the episode where josh looks the cutest :)
paperorplastic111 3 years ago
I always had Noel down as the best episode but this is right up there in terms of best scenes
ihgac 3 years ago 2
Hardly...
The best episodes are when Zoey is kidnapped. Hands down.
GoodbyeToBlueberyPie 3 years ago
Two Cathedrals...
Thynnmas 3 years ago 6
I agree.
lanol3 3 years ago
"So the flowers did the trick, huh?"
"Oh yeah." [Donna stalks off]
I love it!
Rotarrin 3 years ago 2
Josh should have just stretched Donna across the desk and have let nature take its course. --Geen woorden maar daden--.
rotterdam1953 3 years ago 5
I always assume that after the series ended, he did.
sorryman105 3 years ago
Are you kidding that's what happened every time the camera was off them. You can always assume when we're with the president and leo in the sit room that josh is somewhere with donna
Sairin13 3 years ago
Hmm, makes me think about some other people.
sorryman105 3 years ago
LOL you got to love women & their lovely complicated ways ;).
bpeter3196 3 years ago
That is what they call 'chemistry'.
bonangusacdc 3 years ago 4
I've no idea why but I found Donna progressively more attractive each season.
Guess she really grew on me.
crazedmongoose2003 3 years ago 9
I found her sexy from day one! Damn...she's HOT!
MrSixFive 3 years ago 2
every now and then i come back to see WW and am amazed at how crisp and engaging the dialog always is.
aaron sorkin for all his faults, just nails it.
my first reaction to donna was...hmm..kinda cute...
by the end of the series, i was totally smitten with the character.
sfgrunt 3 years ago 3
'I wouldn't stop for red lights'
Love this show.
geoffge 3 years ago 5
"if you were in a accident i wouldn't stop for red lights!"
amalmond 3 years ago 4
"Does this make you feel superior?" I'm not really attracted to Donna but the way she said that line is hot.
LAquarius08 3 years ago
oh shut up honest to god do you ever get tired of the sound of your own voice?
no. no no no.
alixkay888 3 years ago 3
Bradley and Janel had perfect chemistry. They infused it into their character which made scenes like this so believable and brilliant.
hollywoodwerewolf 3 years ago 8
Amazingly well written--perfect Aaron Sorkin, perfect acting by Brad and Janel and perfect delivery. This show set a bar that has not since been passed. Even the Sopranos (which I love) had more freedom and still.........TWW is the standard.
Ozmo07 3 years ago 7
Oh, AGREED, this is my favorite episode!
crimps321 3 years ago
Oh the tension...
sassmyfrass 3 years ago 9
"I need you to stop, well, being you for a minute."
jokr8790 3 years ago 9
oh, i love this clip irrationally.
nejnyy 4 years ago 5
i love when donna says, "if you were in an accident, i wouldn't stop for red lights"
xxeffervescencexx 4 years ago 16
Yeah I know-My favorite show ever. But hey campers don't fret. Now we've got Dancing with the Stars and Dance Wars!-and Danc....aw forget it.
emotionalfilms 4 years ago 12
This comment has received too many negative votes show
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InCupsOfCoffee821 3 years ago
SOOOOOOOOO!
romantic.
mystrial 4 years ago 5
i absolutely love this scene beautifully written and acted
caty25 4 years ago 4
I LOVE this scene, so well written "I wouldn't stop for red lights." :D
Gledster 4 years ago 3
i LOVE the last part.
tigerfanfrv 4 years ago 3
They are so meant to be :D
movieobsessive 5 years ago 3