Thanks Friedman, yeah big thanks! We had a bunch of morons for 7 years and we had been exporting fruit and vegetables to other dictatorships and lackeys of the Middle East, no free enterprise there, only internal free market in the building sector. YEAH BIG THANKS! Bright man nontheless, but still a magician. Markezinis is proud for his work too, but Greece was isolated from Europe.
what a rhotrical magicians trick he pulled here. a hypothetical ,what if situation "you will find it very hard to find anybody who will say that if 55 % of the people think that something unthinkable should be done like killing 45 % of the people" that that would be democracy. Actually if 55 % percent of the people would want to do that, you won't find it very hard at all to find anybody that thinks that would be democracy.
I've come to realize how obsolete democracy is. If we only have a few guidelines about how the government should protect our civil liberties and let the unregulated market run its course, then democracy almost seems redundant. We do our voting with our wallets every day as it is. We choose which capitalists we want to represent us and provide our goods.
why do all these "free market" guys not realized that we have never, and will never, have a free market. all there musings about how things work in a free market are no better than my discussion of the evolution of purple unicorns as they are both based on something which cannot exist.
@kiely What Friedman knows very well and says many times is that there is ALWAYS a 'market,' even in the most controlled kind of economy. It's just the mor contorls you place on it, the more it is distorted and the less able it is to deliver the goods and services to people an economy is suppoed to provide. A 'free' market is a relative concept. As an economist, Friedman simply points out the consequences of more or less freedom. The US has a relatively free market.
@kiely These "free market" guys you mention, such as Friedman, never said that we have a truly free market. You said that, not them. What they do want, though, are free market practices. All economists know that truly purist systems are utopian and impossible. Don't make the assumption that they don't.
@LordofBarons, no we are not a democracy. The USA right now is more of am oligrachy or, rather, a polyarchy with concentrations of private power dominating the agenda. It's a rather fascist state of affairs that would give Friedman a wet dream.
In fact, the slave-owning drunkards we had for "Founding Fathers" wanted it that way. Madison thought government should protect the "rights" of the "minority opulent." It basically asserted the notion that "property owners" have more rights than others
@Laszlo22201 I see the reasoning behind your reply. I was actually trying to be sarcastic, it didn't come out right as I re-read it. I was hoping the added Founding Fathers, whom never wanted a democracy would give away my intentions. I believe they knew all to well that democracy wouldn't work for them, especially from their understanding of democracy's tainted history, i.e., the Greeks constantly being at each others throats.
@anime1973 Yes, to protect minorities you need to have a rule of law. Next question is: decided by whom? The Roman REPUBLIC had slaves in case you dont know, because it was an OLIGARCHY (ruled by patricians) not a DEMOCRACY. Is so hard to imagine a democratric republic with a CONSTITUTIONAL democracy? Nobody here is trying to destroy the rule of law, just making sure it serves the people of its country. Now if that wasnt enough I give up.
@LucBertolotti Just a correction: the Roman Republic was not an oligarchy. 19th Century European liberal states were an oligarchy. The Roman Republic was exactly that, a republic in the oldest sense of the word, in the ancient and later british sense of the word, that is, a system where all are represented (monarch, aristocrats, the people). Not saying that is good, just saying that in a true oligarchy (like 19th century europe) the people have no say, just as in democracy the elite have no say
@LucBertolotti Yes and no. Monarchy understood as "kings" ended, but monarchy as a power of the republic didn't. The two consuls where the "monarchs", and the senate was the "aristocracy".
I agree that plebs didn't had it at first, and had to fight for it, but for most of the republic it was mixed government.
As for the slave argument, that would be like saying that the US wasn't a democracy until women got the right to vote. Social structure has nothin to do with the political definition.
@TheCynicalDude 1.I thought the whole point of this was exactly to prove that US is NOT a democracy
2."Social structure has nothin to do with the political definition" No, it has EVERYTHING to do with politics. If you doubt the defitions look up on the dictionary.
Rome was both a republic(because subject to rule of law and not to the rule of a monarch) and an oligarchy (ruled by few).If you doubt me look up on the dictionary.
@anime1973 you are missing millions point. Prop 8 should not be necessary. The rule of people becomes rule of law. So we should only use the constitution and disperse the power to the local government and state levels. Milton is anti federalist and so are a lot of truly conservative minded people. If you gay or not makes no difference and is not illegal it is just a tax exemption. If 2 gay people get married in a gay church good for them. Like Ron Paul less federal regulation is good.
As a way of producing the best leader/government for the nation in the medium & long term though, they're fundamentally flawed as they're determined by an electorate, the majority of whom, are ignorant on the key issues and the process of government and who vote in their own short term interests and out of emotion.
The US system compounds this problem with the 22nd Amendment which limits Presidents to 2 terms. A measure that almost guarantees a short term only philosophy in the White House.
There are no 'democracies'. Democracy is a concept not a type of government. What the US and much of Europe have are democratically elected leaders and governments.
Democratic elections are not designed to produce the best leader or government. Their purpose is to prevent civil unrest and governments being toppled via d'coup d'état. Even if a leader/government turns out to be awful, the masses aren't likely to riot if they voted them in and can vote them out in subsequent elections.
Yes, Milton, it isn't a democracy, it is a representative cleptocracy designed to protect the property rights of the ruling class and insulate the political system against self-correction so that banksters and hucksters can take trillions of dollars from the unaccountable federal reserve and through the process of smoke and mirrors steal billions through the process of porkbarrel legislation to their unaccountable campaign donors. That's why fraud doesn't get prosecuted!
The bottom line is democracy is as good as government gets, I emphasize "as good as government gets". Government isn't perfect, but democracy is the best form of it -- just as capitalism is the best economic system, but it has a couple of shortcomings of its own. Capitalism + Democracy is the best thing available. We got it right.
Esta es la primera cosa sensata que escucho de este descerebrado, USA no es una democracia, es una dictadura gobernada por las grandes corporaciones, que pueden cambiar a su "Gerente General" cada 4 años... DESPIERTEN vean "LA DOCTRINA DEL SHOCK"
This is the first intelligent thing I hear from this mindless, USA is NOT a democracy is a dictatorship ruled by large corporations, which can change its "General Manager" every 4 years ... WAKE UP... SEE "LA DOCTRINA DEL SHOCK"
Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner. Pure democracy always leads to tyranny against the minority, and is inherently unjust.
@hucktunes No, it's not. The quote I gave was precisely the one I intended to give. The point you are arguing is specious. The U.S. is a republic, albeit one where the representatives are elected by popular vote. "Democracy" is the practice of the general citizenry determining law and policy directly via popular vote. We are a republic for good reason, in that liberty and freedom cannot long exist in a democracy. The founders were, thankfully, wiser and smarter than the nitwits in office today.
@mvolesky1 Two wolves dining on a lamb requires no discussion. I agree with you, the US is a Democratic Republic. Rarely do we get a chance to vote on laws or policy, only representatives including the local level. I doubt if any laws would pass or policy decided upon if it were up to us.
A democracy is "Majority Rule." A republic is "Rule By Law." The Framers saw the problem with both and made us a Representative Republic, where the people elect their representatives to create the laws that rule the land.
"Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts and murders itself. There was never a democracy that did not commit suicide."
@rb3264 Democracy means representatives are elected rather than appointed or born into office. Our laws are founded upon our constitution like other republics. We are a democratic republic, not an aristocratic nor an oligarchic republic, although the Reds are trying to change that by disenfranchising the electoral process.
@rb3264 All senators were appointed by political machines in back room deals such as Tammany Hall until the 17th Amendment was passed in 1913. The 16th, 17th, 18th and 19th Amendments are considered Progressive Era reforms.
Man please fuck off with your bullshit. Democracy was invented by the ANCIENT Greek. How stupid must you be to pull the definition from modern greek. Demos is the Ancient greek term for people/population/inhabitants. i.e people-rule (demo-cracy)
@Cheedillow Demos meant the inhabitants of a municipality, a district, that participated in the electoral process. Anthrop means bearded face and anthropoi was the term used for people. Anthropos meant human being. Demos meant a person that took part in the electoral process, idiot meant a person that did not.
@Cheedillow The original meaning of demos was district. It comes from a source that means division or to divide. It was extended to the inhabitants of a district that were qualified to vote. It means 'common people' as a political ideal.
@UCSDEngineerDoctor Much as Newt would have otherwise, states do not go bankrupt. Newt would like to force states into bankruptcy in order for them to default on pensions like Mitt has done to so many companies he's bought. You guys claim to be conservative but are so liberal with bankruptcy. You lack faith in the American spirit. The economy is picking up, unemployment is down to 2005 levels and the deficit should show a surplus about 2015 as long as another Red isn't elected President.
I laugh every time you guys say Obama is a tyrant, bla bla bla...
you guys obviously have NO IDEA what a tyrant is. I think one of the reasons you guys are doing everything to discredit him is because you just can't stand having a black (actually biracial) president.
@UCSDEngineerDoctor Bush implemented the bailouts as well as increased the size of government considerably. He even managed to outspend Reagan. Obama's policies have added more private sector jobs in the past year than Bush did in eight and has lowered the unemployment rate to 2005 levels. Reagan's policies created a 12% unemployment rate that only lessened with his many tax increases. Reagan raised taxes 11 times. You guys should just figure that what Fox News says is the opposite of the truth.
Too bad so few people understand this. Democracy without protection of individual rights is no better than rule by a tyrant. It’s individual freedom that people want – NOT democracy.
@TWSceptic Hitler was not a democratic tyrant. He was a corporate sponsored tyrant. Obama has done a very good job of doing the things the majority of Americans elected him to do.
@hucktunes LOL Hitler was democratically elected by the people. No corporations involved whatsoever. You have no idea what you're talking about. It was actually socialism what made him convincing. He promised heaven to people (just like Obama did) and delivered a nightmare (which is what Obama is in the process of doing).
Obama has done nothing good for the people. He has bailed out corporations how is that good for the people. You need to educate yourself my friend.
@TWSceptic Hitler was never elected to public office. He led his political party, the DAP, to power and influence while still in the army, attempted a coup, spent five years in prison, helped party members get elected to offices and was appointed Chancellor by Hindenburg after losing to him in the only election he ever contended for. He then seized control of the government. The Nazis were anti-Marxist, anti-communist, anti-Jewish fascists.
@hucktunes The July 31, 1932, election produced a major victory for Hitler’s National Socialist Party. The party won 230 seats in the Reichstag, making it Germany’s largest political party, but it still fell short of a majority in the 608-member body.
On the basis of that victory, Hitler demanded that President Hindenburg appoint him chancellor and place him in complete control of the state.
So largely due to DEMOCRATIC victory he gained power. That's all I'm saying.
@hucktunes Actually most of them are not because they abuse it just like democrats. But libertarians tend to see the weaknesses of democracy and realize the constitution is important to protect minorities from the forces of the majority.
@TWSceptic Individual rights are protected by the Constitution. Libertarians would dismantle regulations in favor of a free for all. Rather than laws that prevent you from dumping your used crank case oil on my lawn I would be forced to gun you down. Reagan's presidency proved that banks can not be trusted to be self-regulating and that the so-called 'free market' is non-existent. More than a thousand were prosecuted for the S&L frauds, unemployment reached 12% and he raised taxes 11 times.
@IKiLLNRapeCOMMUNISTS Nazis mobilized for war, as did we. All nations regulate business in order to keep them honest and responsible for their wastes. Except for Somalia, that's a Libertarian's paradise. A man can do as he pleases in Somalia, sell anything you want to any sucker in need of your products and services. If some guy tries to rob you you can blow him away. Ah, Somalia! No pesky government telling you what you can and cannot do. Throw your beer cans all over the beach, who cares?
@IKiLLNRapeCOMMUNISTS Somalia is too many governments in too small a space. It's not absent government, it just has too many organizations who want a monopoly on violence.
@OldSchopenhauer Hindenburg made the mistake in Jan 1933 of giving Hitler the post of Chancellor, but without the power (and dangers) of democracy this would never happened Hitler became popular because of his speeches to the public IE good rhetoric. Sounds recognizable? Who else came to power this way in the last decade, hm let's see
Obama has a long way to go to become an insult to Hitler he needs to kill a 'few more people' but I'm sure if he spends more trillions on war he has the potential
i heard an interv. with Friedman where he stated that anybody that claimes to act in your benifit, and wants a system that serves the welbeing of all the ppl, is in going to screw you over in the end. Uppon witch he commenced to state that capitalism is does'nt want you to pay taxes to give away to the poor, or on gvrnment spendings...., it works in everyones benifit that way.... Those are not THE exact words, but its what it boils down to. Fucking unbelieveble....i'll try and find the interview
Reps & Senators in the 112thcongress who honored their Oath of Office by voting in a manner that supports & defends the US Constitution & your liberty 100% of the time: Sue Myrick NC, Ron Paul TX, Phil Roe TN, B Posey FL, C Mack FL, Tom McClintock CA, Raul Labrador ID, T Huelskamp KS, T Johnson IL, W Jones NC, A Harris MD, T Graves GA, John Duncan, JR TN, Jeffery Duncan SC, J Campbell CA, J Chaffetz UT, J Amash MI, Rand Paul KY! 18 of 535 on ur side-vote with care-Ron Paul 2012
Meanwhile Milton Friedman is Considered -all over the World- as the most influential Economist in the XX Century and one of the 5 most important Economist in History, chomsky is..hum, who´s chomsky??
Do yourself a favor & quit smoking pot asap, boy. You don´t even understand what Friedman is talking about on this video..
If you took the time to consider what milton is saying and the effects of it. He is favouring the poor. Not the rich. Because in effect the rich who gained from the state would lose all their power and influence if his teories where applied.
@SakakiDash hahaha, milton is for corporatism, naturaly he will try to emply that only those who gained from the state got rich, he's just shifting your attention, what about the greedy, sickening form of corporatism we see currently ? Does he EVER mention stuff like that? Grtzz
You do realize that the current government in the U.S. (for over the last 100 years) is artificially raising prices and making monopolies that will not only reduce the level of service, but also further raise prices?
Also, can you name me one realistic society that does not run on greed? Didn't think so.
@Anderasio if i am informed correctly, it is the federal reserve bank along with gvrnmt (secretary of treas.) who are artificialy raising prices, and mind you, who is the ferderal reserve- a colab between the biggest banks (witch are corporations).
Try starting a new trucking company (transport routes all belong to the oldest companies because they bought them back when the .gov established such a thing as trucking routes), ISP (good luck getting all the permissions from the .gov to put down new cables) or even an emergency rescue service (.gov certificate required).
@SakakiDash I am watching interviews and nomatter how smart Milton Friedman is, he looks at economic's from an economists point of view, thereby he misses out on a whole lot of interresting stuff, that matters atleast as much as any economical research, like how ppl are run by there ideology and what complex issue's lie underneath. If you want to know more, feel free to post me a reaction on my Y-tube channel, we can communicate more extensive that way. Thanx for your reply!!! Grtz
@alainvosselman "...nomatter how smart Milton Friedman is, he looks at economic's from an economists point of view, thereby he misses out on a whole lot of interresting stuff, that matters atleast as much as any economical research, like how ppl are run by there ideology and what complex issue's lie underneath."
So, you're saying economics is inferior to a perspective of "...[knowing] how ppl are run by their ideology and [knowing] complex issues..."
@acquilez In addition, Chomsky is also world renowned. He is cited as the father of modern linguistics and the most cited intellectual for many years running. I can sit and tell you all of his awards and merits, but I am sure you have access to wikipedia yourself. My suggestion, don't try to attack an argument by attacking those who make it, you must actually tackle the argument in order to win a debate. Mud-slinging is a lousy tactic that has infested the right wing as of late.
@acquilez hey dude, i smoke pot and it was realy 'helpfull' to me in letting me experience a the bigger picture to life, and i for one Do know who Noam Chompsky is....."Mudslinging..."
@acquilez My native language is Dutch so pardon me for any mistakes i make on this rather complex issue, i never went to college, but it dont mean i cant look at the world and speak of what i see. 2nd, how is it that if someone states something that does'nt fit your way of thinking, is a pot smoker to you?, and 3d, you do realize that smoking pot activates that part of the brain that connects the dots, in to top it off, better tripping on pot, then trippin on ego, right ?
First, Your nationality is Irrelevant to the arguments
I already knew that you´ve never got a college degree because the number of stupidities that you are able to say in less than a minute
Smoking pot ONLY damages the brain. There are 2 types of memory behavior that is affected by marijuana: recognition memory & free cells. Recognition memory is the ability to recognize correct words (..ring any bell?). Uncontrollable laugh & Paranoia are also associated to its consumption..
If your not a regular cannabis smoker then you have no idea what your talking about. Cannabis sativa opens the doors of perception along with other psychedelic chemicals. To say that cannabis damages the brain is beyond laughable and its also absurd to say that it damages memory. I currently no longer indulge in the plant since I no longer feel the need to use it, but I'm glad that I finally decided to try it one day I did. It changed my brain chemistry for the better.
Doctors neither then?? As a matter of trust, Marijuana damages the brain, more in particular the chemicals added to, specifically cannabinoids and THC which have an effect on the memory and emotions of a person´s central nervous system. What you say on feeling High is Irrelevant when talking on secondary effects in the body, you punk! Marijuana impinges on the central nervous system by attaching to brain´s neurons and interfering with normal communicationbetween the neurons...
"Marijuana impinges on the central nervous system by attaching to brain neurons and interfering with normal communication between the neurons."
How is THC attaching to brain neurons in the CNS a bad thing? Interfering with normal communication? What's normal communication? Don't get me wrong abusing any substance like cannabis for a long period of time is not a good idea especially if your a young teenager, but to say marijuana is only harmful is way out of touch.
@acquilez Uhm, i believe you were the one asking me about the language i speak?! Should'nt i be the one experiencing shortterm -memory difficulty's? Besides, lot of artists smoke pot, some of them are/were pioneers at what they do, contrary to some controle freaks who 'ld never drink a sip or tuch anything unsound, they just happend to be some dictator or a wife-slapping basterd..... What's the use of all that labeling, dont you get drunk from time to time ? check out the harm that does !!
@kahnk009 examine for yourself. If YOU use electricity, you MUST pay the utility bill, correct? If the POWER Company decides to INCREASE the COST for YOU to use electricity, you will continue to pay the bill or risk losing the electricity. Let's say your money runs out and you CAN'T pay this bill. You MUST find some way to pay THIS bill in order to keep USING electricity! (in response to your comment: wow, your retarded) Be honest!! OBAMA deserves 2 terms!!! America NEEDS Pres. OBAMA! 2012
Whether or not this holds any value to you, allocating your own resources for however much electricity you desire is fine, the problem is when the government starts taking money from your neighbors so you can turn on more lights.
In a nutshell, the so called solution to our economic problems is NOT to CUT SPENDING on the domestic programs that assist living, that's like deciding to NOT pay your utility bills. Electricity, water & sewage, and people. It's that simple.
Friedman started by giving the most extreme form of democracy. Most Americans DO like majority rule EXPRESSED THROUGH ELECTIONS. Most Americans DO want protection of individuals rights and liberties. Most Americans DO want to be as important as the corporations to the politicians they elect. This form of democracy is called liberal democracy...
As Sir Winston Churchill once said "the best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter", and I needed just seconds to read your statement..
Moreover, Churchill used to say "a liberal is a man with both feet firmly planted in the air.."
A "liberal" democracy? You mean that 1 on which Abortion is welcomed ´cause the "majority" of People want it? Should we also accept then; raping, stealing, & drugs consumption?
@acquilez I realize that you had to put a spin on things to confuse those who don't know anything about the true differences between the various forms of democracy. It truly sounds like you dont either. My grandma always told me not to argue with a fool.
@acquilez Do you really think this country is currently operating under the principles intended?
The answer is No. This country is NOT operating as a Republic. Why don't you WAKE UP and stop living in the past. The argument is not if this country is a democracy or republic but should be how do we fix the problems that CURRENTLY exist.
Friedman is talking on Democracy as a political system of government although USA is a Federal Republic
His argumentation: Democracy -based on the majority rule- is refused by most. As He already said on this video: "for important things we require much more than a simple majority" the rule of Law, condition under which USA is operating
As I´m -myself- from Europe, I perfectly understand his point, you can´t.
I woke up years ago when I decided to move here for a better living
@acquilez It doesn't matter what your degree is in. Your ignorance is really showing through. I agree with many things Milton Friedman says but not this.
It is not proper to call people name simply because you don't know how to make a point. Watch the "Milton Friedman Versus A Socialist" youtube video...
The problem with taking a small video clip, is that you assume that your are showing it to an educated audience. We are not a democracy and we never have been. The U.S. is a republic. So those of you that do not think voting for you representative is important you get what you put in to it.
western values and lifestyle lead to ------1 wars for energy and death of innocent people, --------2 campus shooting and high criminal rates, -----3 mental illness, -------4 Sexual promiscuity and sexually transmitted diseases, -----5 cold people abuse, --------- 6 Consume the most energy but have veryu low happiness Index. --------I have no idea why some ppl are so proud of what they have done and I think eastern lifestyle is more ideal for human.
@XlilRockaX HAHAHA! Milton Friedman was a conservative economist, who was an economic advisor to Ronald Reagan. He believed in Laissez-Faire capitalism, in which the government leaves the market alone, and only interferes in the market to prevent fraud. All he's saying here is that democracy isn't truly majority rule, that even in democracy there are still some things that a majority under no circumstances may advocate. Yes, the title here is very misleading.
If Friedman supporst democracy so much, why is it his policies have only been made law in dictatorships and democracies where they where not passed in democratic means (ex: getting passed by a party which was elected on a platform of opposing said policies).
I agree with Mr. Friedman one one point - we definitely don't have a democracy in the US. I disagree on another point (that the important matters must be decided by near unanimity), as the major decisions in the US (and by extension, the world) are made by the leaders of the 0.1% which holds most of the wealth in the US. What we get is a 'dog-and-pony show' which allows most of the duped population to believe that they are participating in a democracy - not particularly nuanced, is it?
A true democracy is not a superior form of government and our founding fathers new this. A true democracy inevitably creates a tyranny of the majority. In a true democracy a united 51% of the population has almighty power with no protection for the minority. If on a whim 51% of the population wants to bring back slavery, or deport all minorities, or destroy all mosques, all that is required is 51% and then it becomes law. True democracy is not a superior system.
@RomeAndMarty4Ever Do you think a tyranny of the minority can't do that? Look at what minorities are doing now eg. sending the poor abroad to go and murder brown people. One man has the power to assassinate any US citizen if he thinks they are bad. The constitution is open to interpretation and amendment by minorities. The minority is concerned with keeping their power through corrupt and secret means. If the majority ruled, the power would be much harder to corrupt and be more transparent.
If Friedman believes in nonviolent cooperation, why does he support the wealth flowing to the top one percent. Free trade-- where manufacturing takes place in Asia, or some other low wage country, and is shipped back to the U.S. free of charge, is a economy destroyer. Our present condition is an example of that. Ole Milt defends the rich at the cost of the working class, and calls it good economics.
Well its worked for Swiss Cantons for about 400 years.....So, I guess its all about who the participants are isnt it.
sysopkc 1 day ago
Thanks Friedman, yeah big thanks! We had a bunch of morons for 7 years and we had been exporting fruit and vegetables to other dictatorships and lackeys of the Middle East, no free enterprise there, only internal free market in the building sector. YEAH BIG THANKS! Bright man nontheless, but still a magician. Markezinis is proud for his work too, but Greece was isolated from Europe.
VonManavis 2 days ago
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rmcdaniel423 4 days ago
what a rhotrical magicians trick he pulled here. a hypothetical ,what if situation "you will find it very hard to find anybody who will say that if 55 % of the people think that something unthinkable should be done like killing 45 % of the people" that that would be democracy. Actually if 55 % percent of the people would want to do that, you won't find it very hard at all to find anybody that thinks that would be democracy.
Dutchguy74 6 days ago
Ron Paul
whatnamescan 1 week ago
I've come to realize how obsolete democracy is. If we only have a few guidelines about how the government should protect our civil liberties and let the unregulated market run its course, then democracy almost seems redundant. We do our voting with our wallets every day as it is. We choose which capitalists we want to represent us and provide our goods.
ohedd 1 week ago
@ohedd I vote : All people who think like you should visit a loony bin.
EisEisBaby 1 week ago
@EisEisBaby You can't restrain my freedom.
ohedd 1 week ago
what he believes in is fantasy island
blastsummit 1 week ago
why do all these "free market" guys not realized that we have never, and will never, have a free market. all there musings about how things work in a free market are no better than my discussion of the evolution of purple unicorns as they are both based on something which cannot exist.
kiely 1 week ago 2
@kiely What Friedman knows very well and says many times is that there is ALWAYS a 'market,' even in the most controlled kind of economy. It's just the mor contorls you place on it, the more it is distorted and the less able it is to deliver the goods and services to people an economy is suppoed to provide. A 'free' market is a relative concept. As an economist, Friedman simply points out the consequences of more or less freedom. The US has a relatively free market.
dangerfan2005 1 week ago
@kiely These "free market" guys you mention, such as Friedman, never said that we have a truly free market. You said that, not them. What they do want, though, are free market practices. All economists know that truly purist systems are utopian and impossible. Don't make the assumption that they don't.
Fingolfin3423 3 days ago
If I recall correctly, This video has been edited for a rather deceptive effect:
Originally, this video clip began with Milton Friedman pronouncing rather proudly,
"let's be clear:
I don't believe in Democracy," before he went on to defend his dangerous views by posing his little straw-man of democracy.
Who ever posted this video is being academically dishonest!
TeaPartyTerroristss 2 weeks ago
@martydrooo, YOUR failure is in being academically dishonest about Milton Friedman's role in the Chilean dictatorship!
MiltonPinochet 2 weeks ago
U S is not a democracy? It is now. So much for all the hard work of the Founding Fathers!
LordofBarons 2 weeks ago
@LordofBarons, no we are not a democracy. The USA right now is more of am oligrachy or, rather, a polyarchy with concentrations of private power dominating the agenda. It's a rather fascist state of affairs that would give Friedman a wet dream.
In fact, the slave-owning drunkards we had for "Founding Fathers" wanted it that way. Madison thought government should protect the "rights" of the "minority opulent." It basically asserted the notion that "property owners" have more rights than others
Laszlo22201 2 weeks ago
@Laszlo22201 I see the reasoning behind your reply. I was actually trying to be sarcastic, it didn't come out right as I re-read it. I was hoping the added Founding Fathers, whom never wanted a democracy would give away my intentions. I believe they knew all to well that democracy wouldn't work for them, especially from their understanding of democracy's tainted history, i.e., the Greeks constantly being at each others throats.
LordofBarons 2 weeks ago
@Laszlo22201 They wanted to stay away from democracy because they knew all to well, that it would lead to what you have now; and potentially worse.
LordofBarons 2 weeks ago
I'm starting to think that these people that keep opposing democracy with republic have some serious LOGIC problem.
LucBertolotti 2 weeks ago
@LucBertolotti pure democracy is two lions and lamb deciding what's for dinner.
democracy and a republic are opposed to each other
democracy is rule of the people
republic is the rule of law.
democracy gave us prop 8.
the republic struck it down.
anime1973 2 weeks ago
@anime1973 Yes, to protect minorities you need to have a rule of law. Next question is: decided by whom? The Roman REPUBLIC had slaves in case you dont know, because it was an OLIGARCHY (ruled by patricians) not a DEMOCRACY. Is so hard to imagine a democratric republic with a CONSTITUTIONAL democracy? Nobody here is trying to destroy the rule of law, just making sure it serves the people of its country. Now if that wasnt enough I give up.
LucBertolotti 2 weeks ago
@LucBertolotti Just a correction: the Roman Republic was not an oligarchy. 19th Century European liberal states were an oligarchy. The Roman Republic was exactly that, a republic in the oldest sense of the word, in the ancient and later british sense of the word, that is, a system where all are represented (monarch, aristocrats, the people). Not saying that is good, just saying that in a true oligarchy (like 19th century europe) the people have no say, just as in democracy the elite have no say
TheCynicalDude 2 weeks ago
@TheCynicalDude 1.The monarchy of Rome (and with it its kings) ended with the deposition of Tarquins, and thus began the Republic
2.Slaves had no representation at all, and the plebs hadn't it either and had to fight for it.
LucBertolotti 2 weeks ago
@LucBertolotti Yes and no. Monarchy understood as "kings" ended, but monarchy as a power of the republic didn't. The two consuls where the "monarchs", and the senate was the "aristocracy".
I agree that plebs didn't had it at first, and had to fight for it, but for most of the republic it was mixed government.
As for the slave argument, that would be like saying that the US wasn't a democracy until women got the right to vote. Social structure has nothin to do with the political definition.
TheCynicalDude 2 weeks ago
@TheCynicalDude 1.I thought the whole point of this was exactly to prove that US is NOT a democracy
2."Social structure has nothin to do with the political definition" No, it has EVERYTHING to do with politics. If you doubt the defitions look up on the dictionary.
Rome was both a republic(because subject to rule of law and not to the rule of a monarch) and an oligarchy (ruled by few).If you doubt me look up on the dictionary.
3.The US is a republic!
LucBertolotti 2 weeks ago
@anime1973 you are missing millions point. Prop 8 should not be necessary. The rule of people becomes rule of law. So we should only use the constitution and disperse the power to the local government and state levels. Milton is anti federalist and so are a lot of truly conservative minded people. If you gay or not makes no difference and is not illegal it is just a tax exemption. If 2 gay people get married in a gay church good for them. Like Ron Paul less federal regulation is good.
cskipper65 2 weeks ago
I propose a government where I am made dictator for life. Hey, it works for me.
deezynar 3 weeks ago
2.
As a way of producing the best leader/government for the nation in the medium & long term though, they're fundamentally flawed as they're determined by an electorate, the majority of whom, are ignorant on the key issues and the process of government and who vote in their own short term interests and out of emotion.
The US system compounds this problem with the 22nd Amendment which limits Presidents to 2 terms. A measure that almost guarantees a short term only philosophy in the White House.
TheSmithDorian 3 weeks ago
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@TheSmithDorian So would you rather have monarchy or longer term Presidencies?
EarlRegent 3 weeks ago
1.
There are no 'democracies'. Democracy is a concept not a type of government. What the US and much of Europe have are democratically elected leaders and governments.
Democratic elections are not designed to produce the best leader or government. Their purpose is to prevent civil unrest and governments being toppled via d'coup d'état. Even if a leader/government turns out to be awful, the masses aren't likely to riot if they voted them in and can vote them out in subsequent elections.
TheSmithDorian 3 weeks ago
Yes, Milton, it isn't a democracy, it is a representative cleptocracy designed to protect the property rights of the ruling class and insulate the political system against self-correction so that banksters and hucksters can take trillions of dollars from the unaccountable federal reserve and through the process of smoke and mirrors steal billions through the process of porkbarrel legislation to their unaccountable campaign donors. That's why fraud doesn't get prosecuted!
Redfingers 3 weeks ago
The bottom line is democracy is as good as government gets, I emphasize "as good as government gets". Government isn't perfect, but democracy is the best form of it -- just as capitalism is the best economic system, but it has a couple of shortcomings of its own. Capitalism + Democracy is the best thing available. We got it right.
stebecool 4 weeks ago
Esta es la primera cosa sensata que escucho de este descerebrado, USA no es una democracia, es una dictadura gobernada por las grandes corporaciones, que pueden cambiar a su "Gerente General" cada 4 años... DESPIERTEN vean "LA DOCTRINA DEL SHOCK"
This is the first intelligent thing I hear from this mindless, USA is NOT a democracy is a dictatorship ruled by large corporations, which can change its "General Manager" every 4 years ... WAKE UP... SEE "LA DOCTRINA DEL SHOCK"
ODARTSURF 4 weeks ago
until socialism is stopped, we cannot regain our freedom.
halloranedward 4 weeks ago
Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner. Pure democracy always leads to tyranny against the minority, and is inherently unjust.
mvolesky1 1 month ago
@mvolesky1 The correct quote is 'capitalism is a contest among wolves'.
hucktunes 1 month ago
@hucktunes No, it's not. The quote I gave was precisely the one I intended to give. The point you are arguing is specious. The U.S. is a republic, albeit one where the representatives are elected by popular vote. "Democracy" is the practice of the general citizenry determining law and policy directly via popular vote. We are a republic for good reason, in that liberty and freedom cannot long exist in a democracy. The founders were, thankfully, wiser and smarter than the nitwits in office today.
mvolesky1 1 month ago
@mvolesky1 Two wolves dining on a lamb requires no discussion. I agree with you, the US is a Democratic Republic. Rarely do we get a chance to vote on laws or policy, only representatives including the local level. I doubt if any laws would pass or policy decided upon if it were up to us.
hucktunes 1 month ago
A democracy is "Majority Rule." A republic is "Rule By Law." The Framers saw the problem with both and made us a Representative Republic, where the people elect their representatives to create the laws that rule the land.
"Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts and murders itself. There was never a democracy that did not commit suicide."
John Adams, Letter, April 15, 1814
rb3264 1 month ago
@rb3264 Electing representatives is democracy. Demos means district.
hucktunes 1 month ago
@hucktunes Yes but democracy is majority rule, republic is rule of law.
rb3264 1 month ago
@rb3264 Democracy means representatives are elected rather than appointed or born into office. Our laws are founded upon our constitution like other republics. We are a democratic republic, not an aristocratic nor an oligarchic republic, although the Reds are trying to change that by disenfranchising the electoral process.
hucktunes 1 month ago
@hucktunes Such as the direct election of senators in 1913?
rb3264 1 month ago
@rb3264 All senators were appointed by political machines in back room deals such as Tammany Hall until the 17th Amendment was passed in 1913. The 16th, 17th, 18th and 19th Amendments are considered Progressive Era reforms.
hucktunes 1 month ago
@hucktunes I am aware of that. Direct election of the senators take away the states constitutional rights.
rb3264 1 month ago
@rb3264 The 19th Amendment takes away men's constitutional right to privileged rule.
hucktunes 1 month ago
@hucktunes
Demos means people. (population)
Cheedillow 1 month ago
@Cheedillow The word 'people' comes from Latin 'populus'. Demos is from Greek and means 'district'. Greek for people was 'anthropoi'.
hucktunes 1 month ago
@hucktunes
Man please fuck off with your bullshit. Democracy was invented by the ANCIENT Greek. How stupid must you be to pull the definition from modern greek. Demos is the Ancient greek term for people/population/inhabitants. i.e people-rule (demo-cracy)
Cheedillow 1 month ago
@Cheedillow Demos meant the inhabitants of a municipality, a district, that participated in the electoral process. Anthrop means bearded face and anthropoi was the term used for people. Anthropos meant human being. Demos meant a person that took part in the electoral process, idiot meant a person that did not.
hucktunes 1 month ago
@hucktunes
You said Demos meant district. Therefore you've admitted fault.
Cheedillow 1 month ago
@Cheedillow The original meaning of demos was district. It comes from a source that means division or to divide. It was extended to the inhabitants of a district that were qualified to vote. It means 'common people' as a political ideal.
hucktunes 1 month ago
Unions are good examples of people cooperating with one another.
hucktunes 1 month ago
@hucktunes Cooperating with one another to tax hard working small businesses.
UCSDEngineerDoctor 1 month ago
@UCSDEngineerDoctor Unions don't levy taxes.
hucktunes 1 month ago
@hucktunes Unions do not levy taxes? Why do you think MI, CA, NY & NJ & almost all the states are bankrupt?
UCSDEngineerDoctor 1 month ago
@UCSDEngineerDoctor Much as Newt would have otherwise, states do not go bankrupt. Newt would like to force states into bankruptcy in order for them to default on pensions like Mitt has done to so many companies he's bought. You guys claim to be conservative but are so liberal with bankruptcy. You lack faith in the American spirit. The economy is picking up, unemployment is down to 2005 levels and the deficit should show a surplus about 2015 as long as another Red isn't elected President.
hucktunes 1 month ago
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@sebastianquilt
you better stay in the toilet jerking off, as usual, meanwhile you try to connect "the dots", whatever that means..
acquilez 1 month ago
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acquilez 1 month ago
I laugh every time you guys say Obama is a tyrant, bla bla bla...
you guys obviously have NO IDEA what a tyrant is. I think one of the reasons you guys are doing everything to discredit him is because you just can't stand having a black (actually biracial) president.
cralezarius69 1 month ago
@cralezarius69 BIG GOVERNMENT, over regulation, & bailouts are tyrannical which describes OBAMA in a NUTSHELL.
UCSDEngineerDoctor 1 month ago
@UCSDEngineerDoctor Bush implemented the bailouts as well as increased the size of government considerably. He even managed to outspend Reagan. Obama's policies have added more private sector jobs in the past year than Bush did in eight and has lowered the unemployment rate to 2005 levels. Reagan's policies created a 12% unemployment rate that only lessened with his many tax increases. Reagan raised taxes 11 times. You guys should just figure that what Fox News says is the opposite of the truth.
hucktunes 1 month ago
@UCSDEngineerDoctor
Well then that means Bush, Clinton .... were all tyrants
cralezarius69 1 month ago
Why is Obama like Hitler?
mikrophile 1 month ago 2
The US is a Constitutional Republic
eric8542011 1 month ago 2
@eric8542011 A Constitutional Democratic Republic.
hucktunes 1 month ago 2
Too bad so few people understand this. Democracy without protection of individual rights is no better than rule by a tyrant. It’s individual freedom that people want – NOT democracy.
xit1254 1 month ago 2
The USA is not a democracy, especially when OBAMA is PRESIDENT.
UCSDEngineerDoctor 1 month ago 2
@UCSDEngineerDoctor Obama is like Hitler: a democratic tyrant.
TWSceptic 1 month ago
@TWSceptic Hitler was not a democratic tyrant. He was a corporate sponsored tyrant. Obama has done a very good job of doing the things the majority of Americans elected him to do.
hucktunes 1 month ago
@hucktunes LOL Hitler was democratically elected by the people. No corporations involved whatsoever. You have no idea what you're talking about. It was actually socialism what made him convincing. He promised heaven to people (just like Obama did) and delivered a nightmare (which is what Obama is in the process of doing).
Obama has done nothing good for the people. He has bailed out corporations how is that good for the people. You need to educate yourself my friend.
TWSceptic 1 month ago
@TWSceptic Hitler was never elected to public office. He led his political party, the DAP, to power and influence while still in the army, attempted a coup, spent five years in prison, helped party members get elected to offices and was appointed Chancellor by Hindenburg after losing to him in the only election he ever contended for. He then seized control of the government. The Nazis were anti-Marxist, anti-communist, anti-Jewish fascists.
hucktunes 1 month ago
@hucktunes The July 31, 1932, election produced a major victory for Hitler’s National Socialist Party. The party won 230 seats in the Reichstag, making it Germany’s largest political party, but it still fell short of a majority in the 608-member body.
On the basis of that victory, Hitler demanded that President Hindenburg appoint him chancellor and place him in complete control of the state.
So largely due to DEMOCRATIC victory he gained power. That's all I'm saying.
TWSceptic 1 month ago
@TWSceptic I find it incredible that Republicans are now so openly hostile to democracy.
hucktunes 1 month ago
@hucktunes Actually most of them are not because they abuse it just like democrats. But libertarians tend to see the weaknesses of democracy and realize the constitution is important to protect minorities from the forces of the majority.
TWSceptic 1 month ago
@TWSceptic Individual rights are protected by the Constitution. Libertarians would dismantle regulations in favor of a free for all. Rather than laws that prevent you from dumping your used crank case oil on my lawn I would be forced to gun you down. Reagan's presidency proved that banks can not be trusted to be self-regulating and that the so-called 'free market' is non-existent. More than a thousand were prosecuted for the S&L frauds, unemployment reached 12% and he raised taxes 11 times.
hucktunes 1 month ago
@hucktunes
Nazis were for more Government regulation of businesses.
That worked out well.
IKiLLNRapeCOMMUNISTS 1 month ago
@IKiLLNRapeCOMMUNISTS Nazis mobilized for war, as did we. All nations regulate business in order to keep them honest and responsible for their wastes. Except for Somalia, that's a Libertarian's paradise. A man can do as he pleases in Somalia, sell anything you want to any sucker in need of your products and services. If some guy tries to rob you you can blow him away. Ah, Somalia! No pesky government telling you what you can and cannot do. Throw your beer cans all over the beach, who cares?
hucktunes 1 month ago
@hucktunes
Somalia is Anarchy not Libertarian.
It became Anarchy because of the Communist promoted civil war in Somalia.
Just like Anarchy came to Spain from the Communist promoted civil war in Spain.
Of course Fascists came about as a rebellion to Communism.
IKiLLNRapeCOMMUNISTS 1 month ago
@IKiLLNRapeCOMMUNISTS Somalia is too many governments in too small a space. It's not absent government, it just has too many organizations who want a monopoly on violence.
ASherbuck84 1 month ago
@ASherbuck84
Somalia shows what Government truly is in the Feral government state.
That is gangsters.
The Mafia was setup as a protection government in Sicily.
It shows that Government are just gangsters.
That, in an unorganized state like Somalia they show their true feral Gangster nature.
IKiLLNRapeCOMMUNISTS 1 month ago
@hucktunes It isn't just Republicans against democracy, the Democrats are too.
owingawat 1 month ago
@TWSceptic So I guess what you mean to say is Karl Rove is like Hitler.
hucktunes 1 month ago
@TWSceptic Hitler was appointed by Hindenburg. And while we're at it, comparing Obama to Hitler is an insult to Hitler.
OldSchopenhauer 1 month ago
@OldSchopenhauer Well said.
UCSDEngineerDoctor 1 month ago
@OldSchopenhauer Hindenburg made the mistake in Jan 1933 of giving Hitler the post of Chancellor, but without the power (and dangers) of democracy this would never happened Hitler became popular because of his speeches to the public IE good rhetoric. Sounds recognizable? Who else came to power this way in the last decade, hm let's see
Obama has a long way to go to become an insult to Hitler he needs to kill a 'few more people' but I'm sure if he spends more trillions on war he has the potential
TWSceptic 1 month ago
i heard an interv. with Friedman where he stated that anybody that claimes to act in your benifit, and wants a system that serves the welbeing of all the ppl, is in going to screw you over in the end. Uppon witch he commenced to state that capitalism is does'nt want you to pay taxes to give away to the poor, or on gvrnment spendings...., it works in everyones benifit that way.... Those are not THE exact words, but its what it boils down to. Fucking unbelieveble....i'll try and find the interview
alainvosselman 1 month ago
Very interesting and educational!
hromi 1 month ago
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possumpistol 1 month ago
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Friedman's the man!
AWASHA 1 month ago
Noam Chomsky vs Milton Friedman, Noam wins, fatality.
bodinian 1 month ago
@bodinian
Meanwhile Milton Friedman is Considered -all over the World- as the most influential Economist in the XX Century and one of the 5 most important Economist in History, chomsky is..hum, who´s chomsky??
Do yourself a favor & quit smoking pot asap, boy. You don´t even understand what Friedman is talking about on this video..
acquilez 1 month ago
@acquilez Of course those who spread a message favoring the wealthy get better advertising. Just look at the GOP debates.
bodinian 1 month ago
If you took the time to consider what milton is saying and the effects of it. He is favouring the poor. Not the rich. Because in effect the rich who gained from the state would lose all their power and influence if his teories where applied.
SakakiDash 1 month ago
@SakakiDash hahaha, milton is for corporatism, naturaly he will try to emply that only those who gained from the state got rich, he's just shifting your attention, what about the greedy, sickening form of corporatism we see currently ? Does he EVER mention stuff like that? Grtzz
alainvosselman 1 month ago
@alainvosselman
You do realize that the current government in the U.S. (for over the last 100 years) is artificially raising prices and making monopolies that will not only reduce the level of service, but also further raise prices?
Also, can you name me one realistic society that does not run on greed? Didn't think so.
Anderasio 1 month ago
@Anderasio if i am informed correctly, it is the federal reserve bank along with gvrnmt (secretary of treas.) who are artificialy raising prices, and mind you, who is the ferderal reserve- a colab between the biggest banks (witch are corporations).
alainvosselman 1 month ago
@alainvosselman
Lol.
Try starting a new trucking company (transport routes all belong to the oldest companies because they bought them back when the .gov established such a thing as trucking routes), ISP (good luck getting all the permissions from the .gov to put down new cables) or even an emergency rescue service (.gov certificate required).
It's essentially a monopoly by bureaucracy.
Anderasio 1 month ago
@alainvosselman Gratz on not reading anything milton wrote, or listening to what he said?
He have several times have mentioned the greedy crony state capitalism we have now as something truely bad.
Corporatism is Crony Capitalism and if you read miltons works you will see that he have made many statements against policys that enabled it.
This is not a result of the free market.
Milton was very pro firm, very anti bailouts by the state.
Corporatism is cause and effect of statism.
SakakiDash 1 month ago
@SakakiDash I am watching interviews and nomatter how smart Milton Friedman is, he looks at economic's from an economists point of view, thereby he misses out on a whole lot of interresting stuff, that matters atleast as much as any economical research, like how ppl are run by there ideology and what complex issue's lie underneath. If you want to know more, feel free to post me a reaction on my Y-tube channel, we can communicate more extensive that way. Thanx for your reply!!! Grtz
alainvosselman 1 month ago
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@alainvosselman "...nomatter how smart Milton Friedman is, he looks at economic's from an economists point of view, thereby he misses out on a whole lot of interresting stuff, that matters atleast as much as any economical research, like how ppl are run by there ideology and what complex issue's lie underneath."
So, you're saying economics is inferior to a perspective of "...[knowing] how ppl are run by their ideology and [knowing] complex issues..."
That excuse is idiotic.
DOHC2L 1 month ago
@acquilez In addition, Chomsky is also world renowned. He is cited as the father of modern linguistics and the most cited intellectual for many years running. I can sit and tell you all of his awards and merits, but I am sure you have access to wikipedia yourself. My suggestion, don't try to attack an argument by attacking those who make it, you must actually tackle the argument in order to win a debate. Mud-slinging is a lousy tactic that has infested the right wing as of late.
bodinian 1 month ago
@acquilez hey dude, i smoke pot and it was realy 'helpfull' to me in letting me experience a the bigger picture to life, and i for one Do know who Noam Chompsky is....."Mudslinging..."
alainvosselman 1 month ago
@alainvosselman
first of all, what language do you speak??
mudslinging..who?
I strongly recommend you to stop smoking pot asap before it´s too late..
acquilez 1 month ago
@acquilez My native language is Dutch so pardon me for any mistakes i make on this rather complex issue, i never went to college, but it dont mean i cant look at the world and speak of what i see. 2nd, how is it that if someone states something that does'nt fit your way of thinking, is a pot smoker to you?, and 3d, you do realize that smoking pot activates that part of the brain that connects the dots, in to top it off, better tripping on pot, then trippin on ego, right ?
alainvosselman 1 month ago
@alainvosselman
First, Your nationality is Irrelevant to the arguments
I already knew that you´ve never got a college degree because the number of stupidities that you are able to say in less than a minute
Smoking pot ONLY damages the brain. There are 2 types of memory behavior that is affected by marijuana: recognition memory & free cells. Recognition memory is the ability to recognize correct words (..ring any bell?). Uncontrollable laugh & Paranoia are also associated to its consumption..
acquilez 1 month ago
@acquilez
If your not a regular cannabis smoker then you have no idea what your talking about. Cannabis sativa opens the doors of perception along with other psychedelic chemicals. To say that cannabis damages the brain is beyond laughable and its also absurd to say that it damages memory. I currently no longer indulge in the plant since I no longer feel the need to use it, but I'm glad that I finally decided to try it one day I did. It changed my brain chemistry for the better.
atl881 1 month ago
@atl881
Doctors neither then?? As a matter of trust, Marijuana damages the brain, more in particular the chemicals added to, specifically cannabinoids and THC which have an effect on the memory and emotions of a person´s central nervous system. What you say on feeling High is Irrelevant when talking on secondary effects in the body, you punk! Marijuana impinges on the central nervous system by attaching to brain´s neurons and interfering with normal communicationbetween the neurons...
acquilez 1 month ago
@acquilez
"Marijuana impinges on the central nervous system by attaching to brain neurons and interfering with normal communication between the neurons."
How is THC attaching to brain neurons in the CNS a bad thing? Interfering with normal communication? What's normal communication? Don't get me wrong abusing any substance like cannabis for a long period of time is not a good idea especially if your a young teenager, but to say marijuana is only harmful is way out of touch.
atl881 1 month ago
@acquilez Uhm, i believe you were the one asking me about the language i speak?! Should'nt i be the one experiencing shortterm -memory difficulty's? Besides, lot of artists smoke pot, some of them are/were pioneers at what they do, contrary to some controle freaks who 'ld never drink a sip or tuch anything unsound, they just happend to be some dictator or a wife-slapping basterd..... What's the use of all that labeling, dont you get drunk from time to time ? check out the harm that does !!
alainvosselman 1 month ago
@alainvosselman There.....i did it again !! It should've said " drink a sip or 'touch' anything...". I guess thats just how dumb i am......
alainvosselman 1 month ago
@acquilez
Short term Marijuana use actually increases IQ
Not surprising because it actually increases AcetylCholine & Dopamine involvedi n memory & Intellectual functioning
But, the Long term use causes the issues with brain function
IKiLLNRapeCOMMUNISTS 1 month ago
@bodinian Soooooooooooooooo damn right !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
alainvosselman 1 month ago
fucking troll fuck you milton fagman
ShaktipatSeer2 1 month ago 3
Thanks for uploading all of these videos.
mstrhck 1 month ago
Meanwhile, just before 2012...
VonManavis 1 month ago
@kahnk009 examine for yourself. If YOU use electricity, you MUST pay the utility bill, correct? If the POWER Company decides to INCREASE the COST for YOU to use electricity, you will continue to pay the bill or risk losing the electricity. Let's say your money runs out and you CAN'T pay this bill. You MUST find some way to pay THIS bill in order to keep USING electricity! (in response to your comment: wow, your retarded) Be honest!! OBAMA deserves 2 terms!!! America NEEDS Pres. OBAMA! 2012
loopstreet 1 month ago
@loopstreet
Your analogy makes absolutely no sense.
Whether or not this holds any value to you, allocating your own resources for however much electricity you desire is fine, the problem is when the government starts taking money from your neighbors so you can turn on more lights.
snarfels 1 month ago
In a nutshell, the so called solution to our economic problems is NOT to CUT SPENDING on the domestic programs that assist living, that's like deciding to NOT pay your utility bills. Electricity, water & sewage, and people. It's that simple.
loopstreet 1 month ago
@loopstreet wow, your retarded
kahnk009 1 month ago
Friedman started by giving the most extreme form of democracy. Most Americans DO like majority rule EXPRESSED THROUGH ELECTIONS. Most Americans DO want protection of individuals rights and liberties. Most Americans DO want to be as important as the corporations to the politicians they elect. This form of democracy is called liberal democracy...
kskipwith74 1 month ago
@kskipwith74
As Sir Winston Churchill once said "the best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter", and I needed just seconds to read your statement..
Moreover, Churchill used to say "a liberal is a man with both feet firmly planted in the air.."
A "liberal" democracy? You mean that 1 on which Abortion is welcomed ´cause the "majority" of People want it? Should we also accept then; raping, stealing, & drugs consumption?
"liberal" democracy = No Values
acquilez 1 month ago
@acquilez You are wrong.
bodinian 1 month ago
@bodinian
..really?
acquilez 1 month ago in playlist Milton Friedman
@acquilez Yes
bodinian 1 month ago
@bodinian
..you Sure?
acquilez 1 month ago
@acquilez indeed
bodinian 1 month ago
@bodinian
indeed, you should be better prepared to argue with Anybody else..
acquilez 1 month ago
@acquilez I realize that you had to put a spin on things to confuse those who don't know anything about the true differences between the various forms of democracy. It truly sounds like you dont either. My grandma always told me not to argue with a fool.
kskipwith74 1 month ago
@kskipwith74
First of all USA is Thank God a Republic, NOT a Democracy.
Secondly, what Friedman is saying is Common Sense, the majority rule is an abomination.
Third, as you prefer Socialism or Comunism, I prefer Aristocracy as the Best political system..but that´s NOT the point, smartass..
The point here is starting a debate on ideas, and you´re unable to..
I got a Bachelor´s in Economics, moron, and the man you´re "trying" to denigrate is the 1976´ Nobel Prize..
..your grandma??
acquilez 1 month ago in playlist Milton Friedman
@acquilez I've only read your first sentence thus far.
The USA is NOT a Republic my friend nor is it a true Democracy.
kskipwith74 1 month ago
@kskipwith74
According to the Constitution -and not your imagination- THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IS A FEDERAL REPUBLIC.. Read please..
acquilez 1 month ago in playlist Milton Friedman
@acquilez Do you really think this country is currently operating under the principles intended?
The answer is No. This country is NOT operating as a Republic. Why don't you WAKE UP and stop living in the past. The argument is not if this country is a democracy or republic but should be how do we fix the problems that CURRENTLY exist.
WAKE UP my dear...
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acquilez 1 month ago
@kskipwith74
Friedman is talking on Democracy as a political system of government although USA is a Federal Republic
His argumentation: Democracy -based on the majority rule- is refused by most. As He already said on this video: "for important things we require much more than a simple majority" the rule of Law, condition under which USA is operating
As I´m -myself- from Europe, I perfectly understand his point, you can´t.
I woke up years ago when I decided to move here for a better living
acquilez 1 month ago
@acquilez Your second sentence.
You'll believe anything I see...
kskipwith74 1 month ago
@acquilez Third sentence.
I've never said I prefer socialism or communism. Lighten up. Will ya... Jeez.
kskipwith74 1 month ago
@acquilez It doesn't matter what your degree is in. Your ignorance is really showing through. I agree with many things Milton Friedman says but not this.
It is not proper to call people name simply because you don't know how to make a point. Watch the "Milton Friedman Versus A Socialist" youtube video...
kskipwith74 1 month ago
@kskipwith74
my ignorance?
..stop consuming drugs is what you should be doing, Punk!
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capitalist anarchist.
mykebulvai 2 months ago
capitalist anarchist.
mykebulvai 2 months ago
capitalist anarchist.
mykebulvai 2 months ago
The problem with taking a small video clip, is that you assume that your are showing it to an educated audience. We are not a democracy and we never have been. The U.S. is a republic. So those of you that do not think voting for you representative is important you get what you put in to it.
Thewizzardof9 2 months ago
There's a lot of hate here on Milton Friedman... Still waiting on that logical rebuttal to what he's saying though.
snarfels 2 months ago
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9ying9 2 months ago
Milton doesnt believe in democracy ahahah
diogotomediogo 2 months ago
He is speaking about the fact that we are a Republic based on laws that protect the minority from the tyranny of the majority.
aguyandhistwosons 2 months ago 2
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fountainherz 2 months ago
FUCKING LIBERAL
XlilRockaX 2 months ago
@XlilRockaX HAHAHA! Milton Friedman was a conservative economist, who was an economic advisor to Ronald Reagan. He believed in Laissez-Faire capitalism, in which the government leaves the market alone, and only interferes in the market to prevent fraud. All he's saying here is that democracy isn't truly majority rule, that even in democracy there are still some things that a majority under no circumstances may advocate. Yes, the title here is very misleading.
ndalum75 2 months ago
i believe in democracy!
dafyduck79 2 months ago
If Friedman supporst democracy so much, why is it his policies have only been made law in dictatorships and democracies where they where not passed in democratic means (ex: getting passed by a party which was elected on a platform of opposing said policies).
dave19941000 2 months ago
I agree with Mr. Friedman one one point - we definitely don't have a democracy in the US. I disagree on another point (that the important matters must be decided by near unanimity), as the major decisions in the US (and by extension, the world) are made by the leaders of the 0.1% which holds most of the wealth in the US. What we get is a 'dog-and-pony show' which allows most of the duped population to believe that they are participating in a democracy - not particularly nuanced, is it?
chokkan7 2 months ago
Delicious wisdom from Uncle Milty...
frithar 3 months ago
A true democracy is not a superior form of government and our founding fathers new this. A true democracy inevitably creates a tyranny of the majority. In a true democracy a united 51% of the population has almighty power with no protection for the minority. If on a whim 51% of the population wants to bring back slavery, or deport all minorities, or destroy all mosques, all that is required is 51% and then it becomes law. True democracy is not a superior system.
RomeAndMarty4Ever 3 months ago 2
@RomeAndMarty4Ever Do you think a tyranny of the minority can't do that? Look at what minorities are doing now eg. sending the poor abroad to go and murder brown people. One man has the power to assassinate any US citizen if he thinks they are bad. The constitution is open to interpretation and amendment by minorities. The minority is concerned with keeping their power through corrupt and secret means. If the majority ruled, the power would be much harder to corrupt and be more transparent.
therealbradburns 3 months ago
If Friedman believes in nonviolent cooperation, why does he support the wealth flowing to the top one percent. Free trade-- where manufacturing takes place in Asia, or some other low wage country, and is shipped back to the U.S. free of charge, is a economy destroyer. Our present condition is an example of that. Ole Milt defends the rich at the cost of the working class, and calls it good economics.
louiethegreater 3 months ago
@louiethegreater ......You are obviously clueless about what Friedman actually advocated for.
Riellysdad 2 months ago