George Galloway and Charles Barron on humanitarian aid to Gaza

[senyah5]

Do you remember, On June 8, 1967, US Navy intelligence ship USS Liberty was suddenly and brutally attacked on the high seas in international waters by the air and naval forces of Israel. The Israeli forces attacked with full knowledge that this was an American ship and lied about it. Survivors have been forbidden for 43 years to tell their story under oath to the American public. The USS Liberty Memorial web site tells their story and is dedicated to the memory of the 34 brave men who died.

[Kryptonian250]

Why it doesn't surprise me to see Galloway and Barron together. Both are super controversial.

[BorgHub]

how is it propoganda when it simply shows their own speeches?

the translation is correct and you can ask any arab to check.

ahmadinejad's translation in that instant was not done by memri but by ahmadinejad's own translator to english.

Ahmadinejad also said israel is a rotting corpse, cancerous germ, and shouted "death to israel" in many of his public appearance. and even said the jews should move to Alaska.

was he mistranslated in all of those cases?

"zionist" is today's codename for Jew

[inforevolution]

Israel is the only state in the world today, and the Jews the only people in the world today, that are the object of a standing set of threats from governmental, religious, and terrorist bodies seeking their destruction. And what is most disturbing is the silence, the indifference, and sometimes even the indulgence, in the face of such genocidal anti-Semitism.

[JournalismEndsHere]

That's some provocative rhetoric you've got there, inforevolution, but it's just not true. Unless of course you believe that Israel is the only state and Jews the only people. Jews don't have a monopoly on persecution and saying so doesn't make a person an anti-Semite. On every continent there are non-Jews who face the very same threats you describe. Darfur, Zimbabwe, Iran, Honduras and Austria spring immediately to mind. Sadly, often those people are not as well armed or financed as the IDF.

[PirateEyepatch]

@inforevolution Maybe if you didn't steal lands from Palestinians people wouldn't want to exterminate your ass.

[hashzaman]

zionists = terrorists

They don't even spare their own people...Poor Norman Finkelstein.. A top academic by all standards, a jew, being denied tenure because he spoke of Israeli terrorism

[BorgHub]

george galloway is such a liar.

he says the siege of gaza is only because the palestinian elected hamas.

if that's the case how come the siege is only on gaza and not on the west bank??

the truth is there's a siege on gaza only because hamas took over gaza illegaly (killed all the opposition) and used it to launch attacks against israel.

since that didn't happen in the west bank there is no siege on the west bank.

Galloway is a propogandist for working for hamas

[saadasim]

Hamas does not have control of the West Bank so Israel has free reign there. Israel is confiscating land, evicting their owners and building Jewish only settlements there.

[BorgHub]

you got it all wrong.

the only reason hamas don't have control of the west bank is thanks to israel.

the palestinian authority is actually works together with israel against hamas.

hamas is the enemy of peace, not israel.

both israel and the palestinian authory want a 2 state solution. hamas is not, and is doing everything in their power to keep that from happening.

because if peace is achieved hamas will loose all its power because their entire ideology is built on war and hate

[saadasim]

Another Hamas Peace Plan Ignored

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Hamas will end armed struggle if Israel quits territories

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Norman Finkelstein on the atrocities Israel commited in Gaza

watch?v=bAhoLRfBNOQ

[BorgHub]

lol yeah right. israel already left the territory of gaza in 2005 and hamas kept attacking them.

hamas are a bunch of liars. they say one thing to the western media (saying they'll accept peace and so on) but to their own people they say "we will drive all the jews from all the land, from the river to the sea"

go to MemriTV and just listen to what they're saying in their own words.

or just go and read the Hamas charter and see what it says.

[saadasim]

Israel always blockaded Gaza and denied them sufficient food and medicine. Just a few days ago, Israel committed an act of Piracy and Kidnapping in International waters of a ship carrying food and medicine for Gazans.

And in the West Bank, Israel continues land confiscation, eviction and settlement building.

[BorgHub]

israel left gaza in 2005 and there was no siege until 2007.

why do you think the siege started?

maybe it has something to do with Hamas firing thousands of rockets on israeli cities, and attacking the very same passageways through which israel was delivering supplies.

do you know that gaza has a border with egypt. why are you not blaming egypt for the siege on gaza?

[saadasim]

Hamas took control in 2007. So Israel had blockaded before, during and after Hamas taking control, never allowing them a moment to breathe. In addition, Israel fired rockets and missiles into Gaza. In retaliation, Gazans fired comparatively harmless bottle rockets into land which was taken over by Israel.

The Rafeh crossing is controlled by Israel which retains the right to close it down should it wish to do so.

Now Israel has moved into International piracy and kidnapping.

[BorgHub]

you're simply ignorant of the facts or a liar.

israel cleared gaza completely. there was no siege. and israel was supplying everything to gaza.

people could go in and out of gaza through egypt. that's how the hamas leaders could easily travel in the arab world and back, and many hezbollah experts went into gaza, and hamas was able to train and arm themselves like they could never do before.

but the moment they started attacking israel again israel besieged them to stop it.

[BorgHub]

hamas started with homemade rockets but after israel cleared gaza in 2005 they started brining in heavy rockets like the ones hezbolla have (Grad rockets).

that's why they were able to reach distant cities in israel like Ber Sheva and Ashdod. they could never do that with weak homemade rockets.

israel knows the type of rockets that fell on their cities and those rockets came from iran and syria to gaza by ships and through egypt.

the Rafeh crossing is controlled by Egypt, not israel