if not for Wilberforce and other enlightened ,ordinary WASP businessmen in London ,the west African slave trade might well have continued another century or more ,certainly, the Spanish ,dutch and Portuguese were in no great hurry to end the slave trade .It was the frigates of the RN that made american maritime slave trading untenable and shut down the arab sea trade as well.....At its very WORST, the west african trade was positively benign compared with the arab ,east african trade .
martin ,slavery is very much alive and well in africa ...right NOW ,as we speak .saudi arabia didnt officially outlaw slavery until 1965 and indeed ,it is the muslim arabs and their black cohorts who are BY FAR ,the most profligate slavers today .tens of thousands of blacks are STILL enslaved EVERY year ,this is a FACT .
now listen ,hear those crickets ? .yes ..that IS the sound of OUTRAGE being made by ALL blacks and liberals in europe and the US about ACTUAL,right NOW slavery .pitiful,no?
@woodenmajor Absolutely. It is still the whites who are making the running on the anti-slavery mission. Once it was no longer whites enslaving blacks the blacks seem to have stopped caring about their fellow blacks. For centuries it was blacks trading blacks to Arabs. The reason the British Empire extended across Eastern Africa was to end the Swahili slave trade of blacks being bought by Arabs, with the men often castrated.
lol, laughingblades could easily take a nice long, WELL PAID two year vacation by simply keeping a carefully annotated dairy detailing these numerous inappropriate advances .dates,times ,witnesses ,etc .
if fact she should ask him to cease and desist via WRITTEN memo and then HOPE and PRAY that he is actually stupid enough to fire her ... he must have a big company and she must be quite highly placed if he uses HER for ALL those "layoffs"....how very odd, she dosnt "know" if he's married ?
It should be known that 1 of the reasons Ghadaffi was disliked by his fellow arabs was due to the fact that he was the ONLY arab leader who appologised to the rest of black africa for arab involvement in the slave trade in centuries past.
This put many other arab countries' noses out of joint.
NONE wanted to take responsibility for that misery.
Ghadaffi was the only 1!
Watch Libya become a fundamentalist shit hole now hes gone!
This is basic logic.. What you have done has put it down a lot more in depth rather than what I say... which goes like... "Who hasn't had shitty cultural problems?"
Whoa. I have no clue who you're talking about. I have no clue who these "racists on the internet with below average intelligence" and who think they are entitled because of their race or whatever are. That's not the mentality of the white nationalists I know, it's not the official policy of stormfront, it's not what I believe.
I think you've bought into some boogeymen on this.
@fringeelements You don't think I described you? Good. I don't know who you are and I'm quite happy to keep it that way. This never was and never will be about you. I'm not into pwnage and making things personal and therefore I am glad when people think I'm making strawman attacks because I have never had any specific individuals in my sights and I never will do. This is about my beliefs, not personal attacks on anybody else.
:/ Slavery sounds a lot like my job. My lecherous boss makes unwanted advances to me on a regular basis, and if I sue him for harassment I lose my job, which means losing my home and not being able to eat. If there were plenty of jobs readily available, you could always make a volunteerism argument, but volunteerism is a lie for many Americans.
@Laughingblades Does your boss have a boss? If he owns the company there must be somebody who could pressure him, you just have to think out of the box and ask yourself who wouldn't want him pestering his staff, find them. Wife? Lover? Mother? Pastor? Big client? Neighbour? Landlord? Lodge Grand Wizard? Let him know you know who they are, or just tell them straight.
@MartinJWillett I'm afraid he owns the company. I don't know if he has a wife or lover but he spends a good chunk of the company earnings on his lady friends, and has me in the position of informing people that they're laid off while he saves face with the rest of the employees so everyone's afraid to step out of line.
In the US right now, everyone who works is a replaceable commodity for the most part, and the unions are useless because if you go on strike they just hire scabs and fire you.
I don't know how (or even if) they teach American History in England, but I learned everything you talked about here in my American History class when I was in Grade 9. Trust me when I say that the American education system, more than anyone, would see to it that all the little black children knew that they have the white man to thank for their freedom.
brilliant piece, clear, concise, and well illustrated with examples,how many white slaves of european countries did germany,russia,japan,enslave in the forties,how many slaves world wide are still held today,the silence is deafening,a great intro for a great debate
eloquent, concise and important. too bad you have to wade through all the brain dead comments. every negative argument was answered in your speech. keep'em coming brother.
@ikisdragonfist I meant fighting. Millions of Americans think Israel is a great ally of America (no, America is a great ally of Israel) but they can't think of a the war that Israel joined in on America's side. Funny that, isn't it? And yet the French get called cheese eating surrender monkeys for sitting out one war while America's number one ally sits them all out and no American ever seems to notice. It's a strange world we live in.
@MartinJWillett That's because America doesn't really NEED Israel's help, with all due respect to the military might of the IDF... Besides, what serious wars did America have after 1948? Vietnam?...
And I wouldn't be too hasty saying Israel isn't a valuable ally to the USA.
Having a base of operations IN the middle east isn't that bad at all.
They wouldn't invest in Israel if they didn't think it was a good strategy. Jewish voters? Pff, they're less than 2% and they all vote Democrats anyway.
@MartinJWillett Why would Israel even offer to help the biggest military force on the planet that doesn't even have enemies on it's border, While Israel is surrounded by enemies and has serious wars far more often than America and has a HUGE burden on the tax payer just for defense as it is? BTW, if you study Israel's diplomatic history with the U.S, without prejudices, you'll see quite clearly that America is not much of a loyal ally of Israel (to say the least)..
@Herutnik Why would Poland, Lithuania, Australia, Italy, France, Britain, Germany, Kuwait? All have done. But not Israel.
Oh of course, Israel has enemies on her border. Ever heard of South Korea? They are not exactly comfortable when it comes to nuclear-armed neighbours facing them over a contested land border. They managed to send military assets to help their major military ally overseas.
Once would be nice, don't you think? If they ever have a war without Muslims involved.
@MartinJWillett So you're comparing European countries that are significantly bigger and are not surrounded by enemies to a country. the size of New Jersey that is surrounded by enemies. And South Korea is protected by American troops and therefore owe America something (I guess). When did you last see the U.S army fight Israel's wars (not that I'm asking for it)? Unless of course you believe the Jew hating BS that Iraq is for Israel's interests, but I assume that's beneath your intelligence.
@Herutnik Israel is bankrolled by America, despite being a really rich country Israel is a net foreign aid beneficiary. The cost is even higher if you consider that much of the money to Israel is "offset" by spending further money on her Arab neighbours too in a futile attempt to buy popularity. Israel costs America a fortune and not much comes back the other way. Israel has never bled for anybody who wasn't Israeli, Jewish or both.
@MartinJWillett You're changing the subject and repeated what I've just answered without addressing my point, but no matter, I'll still address yours. Personally, I am against "aid" to Israel since it's more like a bribe to justify U.S intervention in Israeli politics. As for "bankrolling" the U.S: you do realize that they give 3 billion dollars annually right? that's about 5%of our annual budget. As for Israel not fighting for U.S go to my previous comment. Oh, Lithuania is not in constant war.
@Herutnik The subject never was Israel, I just touched on it in passing. Contrary to popular American opinion the other 99.9% of humanity matters too, sometimes.
@MartinJWillett I know Israel was not the subject of the video, but that's irrelevant to our discussion in which you basically made outrages claims that'd be very difficult for you to back up properly. And I never said 99.9% of humanity don't matter (in case that's what you're implying, I'm not sure I understood you correctly)..
@MartinJWillett Hi guys. New to this thread. I just wanted to point out that Israel is asked not to get involved in the middle east conflicts because it would just exacerbate the tensions against the U.S. The Arab coalitions wouldn't cooperate with air space, airfields and supply routes if they had to allow Israel to be an ally by proxy. It would be a huge disadvantage. However they still supply intel. Personally, I think Israel has enough on it's plate just deterring invasion.
Even though the caucasian got caught with their hand in the cookies jar as it pertains the horrible act of slavery and being one of the last race to do it, do not forget many other races were as guilty of it as any caucasian. islam followers for example were at it as much or more than most, they would even be at it today if the world wouldn't go nuts on them, seeing as how deep evil runs through them. Caucasian people had this illness through and through and should never forget it.
@GTCism That's wrong on several levels. Slavery hasn't yet been eradicated in Africa in practice, many Middle Eastern countries abolished slavery in the 1960s, the great Lion of Judah his excellency Haile Selassie, Ras Tafari himself, saw to the abolition of slavery in the Ethiopian Empire in 1942 and it was the invasion of Tibet by China which saw the abolition of slavery in Tibet in 1959, eleven years after the UN declared it illegal on our planet.
@MartinJWillett Isn't what China and India practice now in their artificially state of permanent poverty, and complete lack of labor laws, slavery? Not the same type as bought and sold, but more disposable
@BarryGormley2010 I have had years of people accusing me of the sins of my neighbours' ancestors. Even if my father had beaten slaves to death with their own severed limbs there would be no guilt in me, but my ancestors, as far back as I could check, were farmers, builders, blacksmiths, tramway engineers, mill-hands, dressmakers and handloom weavers.
Look, I know you were talking about England the whole time as most Abolitionists were English, but it was Britain that abolished the slave trade and there were abolitionists from Scotland, Ireland and Wales. Secondly, I don't think that if Scots are mad at England today it has anything to do with Culloden or the Glencoe massacre, they are mad because the last 40 years has seen the destruction of the manufacturing industry in Scotland whilst a resource that could've helped us recover was
@in3x siphoned away to pay for wars and keep the general Uk economy going. However, many Scots do not begrudge this, they are happy to contribute to the UK but are generally annoyed by an inability of England to recognize Scotland as a contributing partner to the UK, portrayals of us as being drunks and benefit scroungers when we are the second most productive economic region in the UK. Most Scottish ire at England is not to do with the past, it very much has it's roots in modernity.
@TomleysUrn Lol, at least I can read mate, maybe you should have another try. Also, thank you for proving my point. By the way, not moaning, we still do better than almost the entirety of England even with the situation as it is.
@in3x Personally I favour union (with Scotland) but I don't agree with the idea that only one party to the union is ever considered to be consulted on the matter. Marriages involve two parties, the right to divorce belongs to both too.
@MartinJWillett Seems fair enough to me, if the UK as a whole wants Scotland to remain in the Union then that opinion has to be taken into account. However, some might argue (I think I might fall into this category) that a people's right to self determination may trump this. However, I think independence will only be beneficial to both parties if it is mutual, the English and Scots must both believe it is in their self interest otherwise the split may be acrimonious.
@in3x Ah, no, I see your mistake here. I wasn't suggesting that the husband could tell the wife's lawyers to fuck off she'd have to stay whether she likes it or not, I was suggesting that the husband be asked whether he wants to remain married and if he says no then what the wife wants isn't important. You seem to assume that you're so wonderful we'd like to chain you up so you can't leave. Not so, we want to be asked whether we want to allow you stay united to us. Unions need mutual consent.
@MartinJWillett Ok, so you are saying that the rest of the UK should have the right to dissolve the union as well? I can't disagree. I am really not trying to Scotland is better than England at all, both countries are great, sometimes individually and sometimes due to our partnership. I just think that Scotland could be better off if it was an independent country.
@BarryGormley2010 It is true to say that leftists mock whites for showing pride in their nation and/or race while giving a free pass to those showing pride in their race if it is black or their nation if it has largely come off second best in wars. A typical leftist will want to ban a St George's Day parade and join in a St Patrick's Day parade.
Barbary piracy wasnt just in England and Ireland, Barbary raids and kidnappings occured in Italy, Spain, France, Portugal, England, Ireland, Scotland as far north as Iceland exist from between the 16th to the 19th centuries. It is estimated that between 1 million and 1.25 million Europeans were captured by pirates and sold as slaves during this time period.
I can't say I'd noticed the effort to downplay the role of the abolitionists, but it's not something I've ever heard much trumpet blowing about. The abolitionists are a credit to their/our country, not that it sits very easily to know Britains was involved in the slave trade in the first place. You'd think if there was a god or any or any objective morality in religion then slavery would be outlawed in the 10 commamdments- rather than sanctioning it (do not covet someone's slaves).
It's funny how Ariocentric blacks (the very type who like to demand reparations for slavery) like to pretend that there was a pan-African race in order to claim Egypt's ancient glory. If that's so then quid pro quo they should take responsibility for the north African Barbary pirates, and their raids on Europe for white slaves. These north African slavers kidnapped hundreds of thousands of Europeans, from as far away as Ireland. Blacks should pay us reparation for that!
Although I fear those that most need to see it probably don't have the attention span for a near 30 minute video containing only plainly spoken words...
..Oh and by the way, Africans-Americans should also try to research when South-Western African states abolished slavery..
One might be astonished to learn that many African states,abolished slavery only 30 or 40 years ago, and some as late as 10 or 20 years ago as Sudan and Mauritania(and that only nominally).
All alluding to the notorious Arab African slave trade.
AfricanAmericans should try to research what happened to the African slaves that ended in Arab countries, as they should read who ended the slave trade..
..all that in the service of historical memory of course.
@AmetReloads Muslims were doing far more slave trading than Christians were for most of the time the religion has been around. Muhammad himself took slaves as wives, including the widows of men he murdered - he was not a nice man.
Much of the reason to expand the British Empire in Africa was to eliminate slave-taking of blacks by Muslims.
There was another big difference between slavery in the Islamic world and the west - most slaves in the New World got to keep their testicles.
@AmetReloads The Arab/Africa slave trade is far older than the Atlantic slave trade. Most were used as chattel and house servants rather than as part of the industrial scale plantation work in the New World...slavery is nothing new and still goes on.
The Saudis made slavery illegal in 1967...Britain ended slavery in the early 1800s....but hey, who's the big bad civilisation?
@BarryGormley2010 Why limit yourself to just whites? There are plenty of useless black people who get off on the achievements of other black people, and some of those are mythical achievements. Judging anybody, including yourself, by the membership of a group is wrong, and if that's your only source of personal pride you are living a sorry life, and if you're white (but only if you are white) you can expect some leftist to come along and spit on you for trying to polish your turd of a life.
The point about slave-owner from the Amistad was interesting.
I don't think you needed to emphasise a number of times that your ancestors weren't involved in the trade. "The sins of the father" holds no water for me, nor you I imagine.
@SpookyFan Joseph Cinque, I cut the name out of the script because I wasn't sure how it should be pronounced. Sink or sank? There were also several Negroes in the American South in the 1860s who owned more than 60 slaves, some were even involved in slave breeding, a concept which makes your skin crawl, no matter its colour.
It's not a black and white issue at all, in either sense of the phrase.
I wouldn't say any of this shit in front of a leftist or a black "victim" they'd tear your head off. I got into an argument with a black man and in his mind even if Britain and France had of fallen to Nazi Germany some how the Africans would have been the heros. this was brought up after i said i don't like Muslims he called me a Nazi, and i told him my grandfather fought against and killed Nazi's and the fact theres still some around today sickens me. which of course didn't seem to matter.
Slavery is as old as the first larger tribes of man. All kinds of people did this. It was done by Europeans, Arabs, Africans, Mongols and native americans.
It is par of humanity. Part of the evil we all carry around.
But the cultural self hatred of the western left wing only wants to focus on White people setting black people in slavery. Because this they can use to point fingers at right wing white people in the west in order to degrade their pride in the western civilization.
@iDoctorIL This is probably the biggest one I'm likely to do. It was originally a page on my website, marking the two hundredth anniversary of the abolition of the slave trade. On a website there isn't a reason to keep it short, people can come back to it if or skim over a section if it is too long. Now I'm writing for YouTube I pay more attention to length and try to keep it snappier. I was just revelling in the freedom of being able to upload a video of whatever length I like.
@ MartinJWillett In the bible it says that you can enslave an Israelite when he cannot pay his debts, but only for 7 years. The slave can go free after that and if he wanted to stay, then his owner must pierce his ear. The gentile slave is not to be freed, ever.
Btw, Jews are descendants of the tribe of Judah, one of 12 Israelite tribes.
@iDoctorIL I have no problem with two kingdoms, the bible clearly shows two slightly different traditions. It's the twelve tribes thing I just don't buy. Judah as an offshoot of the nation of Israel is reasonable, but twelve brothers of a man who wrestled and beat God? Give me a break.
@MartinJWillett There are also evidences of the destruction of the kingdom of Israel by Assyria or Babylon, i don't remember who. And most likely the lost tribes just assimilated with other people.
@iDoctorIL Assimilation is far more likely than any far-fetched notions of utter annihilation, enslavement en masse or magical exile to Africa, China or Britain that nobody noticed.
Where have the lost tribes been found this week? Behind the back of my sofa?
Is there a transcript of this?
serpentinexcubed 2 months ago
if not for Wilberforce and other enlightened ,ordinary WASP businessmen in London ,the west African slave trade might well have continued another century or more ,certainly, the Spanish ,dutch and Portuguese were in no great hurry to end the slave trade .It was the frigates of the RN that made american maritime slave trading untenable and shut down the arab sea trade as well.....At its very WORST, the west african trade was positively benign compared with the arab ,east african trade .
woodenmajor 3 months ago
martin ,slavery is very much alive and well in africa ...right NOW ,as we speak .saudi arabia didnt officially outlaw slavery until 1965 and indeed ,it is the muslim arabs and their black cohorts who are BY FAR ,the most profligate slavers today .tens of thousands of blacks are STILL enslaved EVERY year ,this is a FACT .
now listen ,hear those crickets ? .yes ..that IS the sound of OUTRAGE being made by ALL blacks and liberals in europe and the US about ACTUAL,right NOW slavery .pitiful,no?
woodenmajor 3 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@woodenmajor Absolutely. It is still the whites who are making the running on the anti-slavery mission. Once it was no longer whites enslaving blacks the blacks seem to have stopped caring about their fellow blacks. For centuries it was blacks trading blacks to Arabs. The reason the British Empire extended across Eastern Africa was to end the Swahili slave trade of blacks being bought by Arabs, with the men often castrated.
MartinJWillett 3 months ago
lol, laughingblades could easily take a nice long, WELL PAID two year vacation by simply keeping a carefully annotated dairy detailing these numerous inappropriate advances .dates,times ,witnesses ,etc .
if fact she should ask him to cease and desist via WRITTEN memo and then HOPE and PRAY that he is actually stupid enough to fire her ... he must have a big company and she must be quite highly placed if he uses HER for ALL those "layoffs"....how very odd, she dosnt "know" if he's married ?
woodenmajor 3 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
A very sensible video - which is rare when it comes to discussions about race and slavery.
j1mmyZeta 3 months ago
It should be known that 1 of the reasons Ghadaffi was disliked by his fellow arabs was due to the fact that he was the ONLY arab leader who appologised to the rest of black africa for arab involvement in the slave trade in centuries past.
This put many other arab countries' noses out of joint.
NONE wanted to take responsibility for that misery.
Ghadaffi was the only 1!
Watch Libya become a fundamentalist shit hole now hes gone!
DMSProduktions 3 months ago
This is basic logic.. What you have done has put it down a lot more in depth rather than what I say... which goes like... "Who hasn't had shitty cultural problems?"
kzaryckiproductions 3 months ago
Whoa. I have no clue who you're talking about. I have no clue who these "racists on the internet with below average intelligence" and who think they are entitled because of their race or whatever are. That's not the mentality of the white nationalists I know, it's not the official policy of stormfront, it's not what I believe.
I think you've bought into some boogeymen on this.
fringeelements 4 months ago 6
@fringeelements You don't think I described you? Good. I don't know who you are and I'm quite happy to keep it that way. This never was and never will be about you. I'm not into pwnage and making things personal and therefore I am glad when people think I'm making strawman attacks because I have never had any specific individuals in my sights and I never will do. This is about my beliefs, not personal attacks on anybody else.
MartinJWillett 4 months ago
:/ Slavery sounds a lot like my job. My lecherous boss makes unwanted advances to me on a regular basis, and if I sue him for harassment I lose my job, which means losing my home and not being able to eat. If there were plenty of jobs readily available, you could always make a volunteerism argument, but volunteerism is a lie for many Americans.
Laughingblades 4 months ago
@Laughingblades Does your boss have a boss? If he owns the company there must be somebody who could pressure him, you just have to think out of the box and ask yourself who wouldn't want him pestering his staff, find them. Wife? Lover? Mother? Pastor? Big client? Neighbour? Landlord? Lodge Grand Wizard? Let him know you know who they are, or just tell them straight.
MartinJWillett 4 months ago
@MartinJWillett I'm afraid he owns the company. I don't know if he has a wife or lover but he spends a good chunk of the company earnings on his lady friends, and has me in the position of informing people that they're laid off while he saves face with the rest of the employees so everyone's afraid to step out of line.
In the US right now, everyone who works is a replaceable commodity for the most part, and the unions are useless because if you go on strike they just hire scabs and fire you.
Laughingblades 4 months ago
@Laughingblades Try his mother, if he's not sold her.
MartinJWillett 4 months ago
@MartinJWillett Hah, he's probably the type who would.
Laughingblades 4 months ago
I don't know how (or even if) they teach American History in England, but I learned everything you talked about here in my American History class when I was in Grade 9. Trust me when I say that the American education system, more than anyone, would see to it that all the little black children knew that they have the white man to thank for their freedom.
TheOnyxNightshade 4 months ago
brilliant piece, clear, concise, and well illustrated with examples,how many white slaves of european countries did germany,russia,japan,enslave in the forties,how many slaves world wide are still held today,the silence is deafening,a great intro for a great debate
MrAntithiest 4 months ago
eloquent, concise and important. too bad you have to wade through all the brain dead comments. every negative argument was answered in your speech. keep'em coming brother.
PvtChuff 4 months ago
This was awesome, and it is forbidden politically incorrect speech. We live in strange times.
seemoretube 4 months ago
Informative and insightful as always
CMO999 4 months ago
The slavery was Arab Islamic slave trade.
It was reported that the Arabs castrated male black slaves and mainly wanted girl black slaves as sex slaves.
00ismaeL001 4 months ago
Actually, the Israeli Defense Force IS sent abroad to help citizens during natural disasters and such.
They were one of the first to arrive in Haiti last year, for instance.
And they sent hundreds of people and tons of medical equipment to Fukushima this year.
Even now they offered Turkey help with their recent earthquake, still waiting to see if they'll agree :P
ikisdragonfist 4 months ago in playlist Videos from MartinJWillett
@ikisdragonfist I meant fighting. Millions of Americans think Israel is a great ally of America (no, America is a great ally of Israel) but they can't think of a the war that Israel joined in on America's side. Funny that, isn't it? And yet the French get called cheese eating surrender monkeys for sitting out one war while America's number one ally sits them all out and no American ever seems to notice. It's a strange world we live in.
MartinJWillett 4 months ago
@MartinJWillett That's because America doesn't really NEED Israel's help, with all due respect to the military might of the IDF... Besides, what serious wars did America have after 1948? Vietnam?...
And I wouldn't be too hasty saying Israel isn't a valuable ally to the USA.
Having a base of operations IN the middle east isn't that bad at all.
They wouldn't invest in Israel if they didn't think it was a good strategy. Jewish voters? Pff, they're less than 2% and they all vote Democrats anyway.
ikisdragonfist 4 months ago
@ikisdragonfist Don't you think it would be nice to offer, just once?
MartinJWillett 4 months ago
@MartinJWillett Oh, alright... I'll go ask my dad.
ikisdragonfist 4 months ago
@MartinJWillett Why would Israel even offer to help the biggest military force on the planet that doesn't even have enemies on it's border, While Israel is surrounded by enemies and has serious wars far more often than America and has a HUGE burden on the tax payer just for defense as it is? BTW, if you study Israel's diplomatic history with the U.S, without prejudices, you'll see quite clearly that America is not much of a loyal ally of Israel (to say the least)..
Herutnik 4 months ago
@Herutnik Why would Poland, Lithuania, Australia, Italy, France, Britain, Germany, Kuwait? All have done. But not Israel.
Oh of course, Israel has enemies on her border. Ever heard of South Korea? They are not exactly comfortable when it comes to nuclear-armed neighbours facing them over a contested land border. They managed to send military assets to help their major military ally overseas.
Once would be nice, don't you think? If they ever have a war without Muslims involved.
Yeah, right.
MartinJWillett 4 months ago
@MartinJWillett So you're comparing European countries that are significantly bigger and are not surrounded by enemies to a country. the size of New Jersey that is surrounded by enemies. And South Korea is protected by American troops and therefore owe America something (I guess). When did you last see the U.S army fight Israel's wars (not that I'm asking for it)? Unless of course you believe the Jew hating BS that Iraq is for Israel's interests, but I assume that's beneath your intelligence.
Herutnik 4 months ago
@Herutnik Israel is bankrolled by America, despite being a really rich country Israel is a net foreign aid beneficiary. The cost is even higher if you consider that much of the money to Israel is "offset" by spending further money on her Arab neighbours too in a futile attempt to buy popularity. Israel costs America a fortune and not much comes back the other way. Israel has never bled for anybody who wasn't Israeli, Jewish or both.
Lithuania is not a big country.
MartinJWillett 4 months ago
@MartinJWillett You're changing the subject and repeated what I've just answered without addressing my point, but no matter, I'll still address yours. Personally, I am against "aid" to Israel since it's more like a bribe to justify U.S intervention in Israeli politics. As for "bankrolling" the U.S: you do realize that they give 3 billion dollars annually right? that's about 5%of our annual budget. As for Israel not fighting for U.S go to my previous comment. Oh, Lithuania is not in constant war.
Herutnik 4 months ago
@Herutnik The subject never was Israel, I just touched on it in passing. Contrary to popular American opinion the other 99.9% of humanity matters too, sometimes.
MartinJWillett 4 months ago
@MartinJWillett I know Israel was not the subject of the video, but that's irrelevant to our discussion in which you basically made outrages claims that'd be very difficult for you to back up properly. And I never said 99.9% of humanity don't matter (in case that's what you're implying, I'm not sure I understood you correctly)..
Herutnik 4 months ago
@Herutnik This video is not about Israel.
MartinJWillett 4 months ago
@MartinJWillett Hi guys. New to this thread. I just wanted to point out that Israel is asked not to get involved in the middle east conflicts because it would just exacerbate the tensions against the U.S. The Arab coalitions wouldn't cooperate with air space, airfields and supply routes if they had to allow Israel to be an ally by proxy. It would be a huge disadvantage. However they still supply intel. Personally, I think Israel has enough on it's plate just deterring invasion.
mydogbanjo 4 months ago
@MartinJWillett Oh we notice, some are quite against it, some are just ignorant, and some just don't give a fuck, they are "God's" people after all.
riddler251 4 months ago
Even though the caucasian got caught with their hand in the cookies jar as it pertains the horrible act of slavery and being one of the last race to do it, do not forget many other races were as guilty of it as any caucasian. islam followers for example were at it as much or more than most, they would even be at it today if the world wouldn't go nuts on them, seeing as how deep evil runs through them. Caucasian people had this illness through and through and should never forget it.
GTCism 4 months ago
@GTCism That's wrong on several levels. Slavery hasn't yet been eradicated in Africa in practice, many Middle Eastern countries abolished slavery in the 1960s, the great Lion of Judah his excellency Haile Selassie, Ras Tafari himself, saw to the abolition of slavery in the Ethiopian Empire in 1942 and it was the invasion of Tibet by China which saw the abolition of slavery in Tibet in 1959, eleven years after the UN declared it illegal on our planet.
It's not a black and white issue.
MartinJWillett 4 months ago
@MartinJWillett Isn't what China and India practice now in their artificially state of permanent poverty, and complete lack of labor laws, slavery? Not the same type as bought and sold, but more disposable
Brajabu74 4 months ago
@BarryGormley2010 I have had years of people accusing me of the sins of my neighbours' ancestors. Even if my father had beaten slaves to death with their own severed limbs there would be no guilt in me, but my ancestors, as far back as I could check, were farmers, builders, blacksmiths, tramway engineers, mill-hands, dressmakers and handloom weavers.
MartinJWillett 4 months ago
Look, I know you were talking about England the whole time as most Abolitionists were English, but it was Britain that abolished the slave trade and there were abolitionists from Scotland, Ireland and Wales. Secondly, I don't think that if Scots are mad at England today it has anything to do with Culloden or the Glencoe massacre, they are mad because the last 40 years has seen the destruction of the manufacturing industry in Scotland whilst a resource that could've helped us recover was
in3x 4 months ago
@in3x siphoned away to pay for wars and keep the general Uk economy going. However, many Scots do not begrudge this, they are happy to contribute to the UK but are generally annoyed by an inability of England to recognize Scotland as a contributing partner to the UK, portrayals of us as being drunks and benefit scroungers when we are the second most productive economic region in the UK. Most Scottish ire at England is not to do with the past, it very much has it's roots in modernity.
in3x 4 months ago
@in3x You Scots are pathetic. You're like the ethnics, always moaning and pissing about how life has treated you badly. Shut the fuck up Jock
TomleysUrn 4 months ago
@TomleysUrn Lol, at least I can read mate, maybe you should have another try. Also, thank you for proving my point. By the way, not moaning, we still do better than almost the entirety of England even with the situation as it is.
in3x 4 months ago
@in3x Ignore him, he's number 745 on my blocked user list.
MartinJWillett 4 months ago
@MartinJWillett What exactly is he trying to prove?
in3x 4 months ago
@in3x I don't think his mental processes extend as far as proving propositions.
MartinJWillett 4 months ago
@in3x Personally I favour union (with Scotland) but I don't agree with the idea that only one party to the union is ever considered to be consulted on the matter. Marriages involve two parties, the right to divorce belongs to both too.
MartinJWillett 4 months ago
@MartinJWillett Seems fair enough to me, if the UK as a whole wants Scotland to remain in the Union then that opinion has to be taken into account. However, some might argue (I think I might fall into this category) that a people's right to self determination may trump this. However, I think independence will only be beneficial to both parties if it is mutual, the English and Scots must both believe it is in their self interest otherwise the split may be acrimonious.
in3x 4 months ago
@in3x Ah, no, I see your mistake here. I wasn't suggesting that the husband could tell the wife's lawyers to fuck off she'd have to stay whether she likes it or not, I was suggesting that the husband be asked whether he wants to remain married and if he says no then what the wife wants isn't important. You seem to assume that you're so wonderful we'd like to chain you up so you can't leave. Not so, we want to be asked whether we want to allow you stay united to us. Unions need mutual consent.
MartinJWillett 4 months ago
@MartinJWillett Ok, so you are saying that the rest of the UK should have the right to dissolve the union as well? I can't disagree. I am really not trying to Scotland is better than England at all, both countries are great, sometimes individually and sometimes due to our partnership. I just think that Scotland could be better off if it was an independent country.
in3x 4 months ago
@BarryGormley2010 It is true to say that leftists mock whites for showing pride in their nation and/or race while giving a free pass to those showing pride in their race if it is black or their nation if it has largely come off second best in wars. A typical leftist will want to ban a St George's Day parade and join in a St Patrick's Day parade.
MartinJWillett 4 months ago
Barbary piracy wasnt just in England and Ireland, Barbary raids and kidnappings occured in Italy, Spain, France, Portugal, England, Ireland, Scotland as far north as Iceland exist from between the 16th to the 19th centuries. It is estimated that between 1 million and 1.25 million Europeans were captured by pirates and sold as slaves during this time period.
MsOneiroi77 4 months ago
every country in the world or territory throughout history has perpetuated in slavery and has been a victim of slavery.
MsOneiroi77 4 months ago
I can't say I'd noticed the effort to downplay the role of the abolitionists, but it's not something I've ever heard much trumpet blowing about. The abolitionists are a credit to their/our country, not that it sits very easily to know Britains was involved in the slave trade in the first place. You'd think if there was a god or any or any objective morality in religion then slavery would be outlawed in the 10 commamdments- rather than sanctioning it (do not covet someone's slaves).
rahotep101 4 months ago
It's funny how Ariocentric blacks (the very type who like to demand reparations for slavery) like to pretend that there was a pan-African race in order to claim Egypt's ancient glory. If that's so then quid pro quo they should take responsibility for the north African Barbary pirates, and their raids on Europe for white slaves. These north African slavers kidnapped hundreds of thousands of Europeans, from as far away as Ireland. Blacks should pay us reparation for that!
rahotep101 4 months ago
Very informative video.
Although I fear those that most need to see it probably don't have the attention span for a near 30 minute video containing only plainly spoken words...
Still, I enjoyed it.
PloppytheGaoler 4 months ago
..Oh and by the way, Africans-Americans should also try to research when South-Western African states abolished slavery..
One might be astonished to learn that many African states,abolished slavery only 30 or 40 years ago, and some as late as 10 or 20 years ago as Sudan and Mauritania(and that only nominally).
AmetReloads 4 months ago
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HeyRuka 4 months ago
Wow. It's refreshing to hear a non-butthurt victim version of the history of slavery. Thanks, Martin :)
HeyRuka 4 months ago 4
When i hear African-Americans embracing Islam, on the pretense of repudiating the Anglo-Christian slavery heritage ,2 things come in mind:
-Does USA has a shortage of history books ,aside from a shortage of maps?
-Will we see in the future Israelis calling their male children Adolf, or Rudolf, or Heinrich,too ?
Across South Europe, Africans(Blacks) are still called kafirs or kafroi/cafre, once referred to the black slaves of Muslims, word loans from Arabic.
In Arabic the word for Blacks,
...
AmetReloads 4 months ago 3
@AmetReloads ...literally means slave.
All alluding to the notorious Arab African slave trade.
AfricanAmericans should try to research what happened to the African slaves that ended in Arab countries, as they should read who ended the slave trade..
..all that in the service of historical memory of course.
AmetReloads 4 months ago
@AmetReloads Muslims were doing far more slave trading than Christians were for most of the time the religion has been around. Muhammad himself took slaves as wives, including the widows of men he murdered - he was not a nice man.
Much of the reason to expand the British Empire in Africa was to eliminate slave-taking of blacks by Muslims.
There was another big difference between slavery in the Islamic world and the west - most slaves in the New World got to keep their testicles.
MartinJWillett 4 months ago
@AmetReloads The Arab/Africa slave trade is far older than the Atlantic slave trade. Most were used as chattel and house servants rather than as part of the industrial scale plantation work in the New World...slavery is nothing new and still goes on.
The Saudis made slavery illegal in 1967...Britain ended slavery in the early 1800s....but hey, who's the big bad civilisation?
Hereticalable 4 months ago
@BarryGormley2010 Why limit yourself to just whites? There are plenty of useless black people who get off on the achievements of other black people, and some of those are mythical achievements. Judging anybody, including yourself, by the membership of a group is wrong, and if that's your only source of personal pride you are living a sorry life, and if you're white (but only if you are white) you can expect some leftist to come along and spit on you for trying to polish your turd of a life.
MartinJWillett 4 months ago 22
The point about slave-owner from the Amistad was interesting.
I don't think you needed to emphasise a number of times that your ancestors weren't involved in the trade. "The sins of the father" holds no water for me, nor you I imagine.
SpookyFan 4 months ago
@SpookyFan Joseph Cinque, I cut the name out of the script because I wasn't sure how it should be pronounced. Sink or sank? There were also several Negroes in the American South in the 1860s who owned more than 60 slaves, some were even involved in slave breeding, a concept which makes your skin crawl, no matter its colour.
It's not a black and white issue at all, in either sense of the phrase.
MartinJWillett 4 months ago 10
@MartinJWillett Perhaps it is pronounced "Seen-kay."
thegoodlocust 4 months ago
I didn't find this one too long, but you did reinforce some points you've made before. They were good points though. dun listen to the doctor.
MsReefmaster 4 months ago
Well said!
Nilsy1975 4 months ago
I wouldn't say any of this shit in front of a leftist or a black "victim" they'd tear your head off. I got into an argument with a black man and in his mind even if Britain and France had of fallen to Nazi Germany some how the Africans would have been the heros. this was brought up after i said i don't like Muslims he called me a Nazi, and i told him my grandfather fought against and killed Nazi's and the fact theres still some around today sickens me. which of course didn't seem to matter.
MsReefmaster 4 months ago
Slavery is as old as the first larger tribes of man. All kinds of people did this. It was done by Europeans, Arabs, Africans, Mongols and native americans.
It is par of humanity. Part of the evil we all carry around.
But the cultural self hatred of the western left wing only wants to focus on White people setting black people in slavery. Because this they can use to point fingers at right wing white people in the west in order to degrade their pride in the western civilization.
ulladullahsen 4 months ago 4
@MartinJWillett Even tho I love your voice, that lecture was far too long and you repeated many things over and over. (just saying)
iDoctorIL 4 months ago
@iDoctorIL This is probably the biggest one I'm likely to do. It was originally a page on my website, marking the two hundredth anniversary of the abolition of the slave trade. On a website there isn't a reason to keep it short, people can come back to it if or skim over a section if it is too long. Now I'm writing for YouTube I pay more attention to length and try to keep it snappier. I was just revelling in the freedom of being able to upload a video of whatever length I like.
MartinJWillett 4 months ago
Well said, good sir. Well said, indeed.
DeusExWolksvagen 4 months ago
@ MartinJWillett In the bible it says that you can enslave an Israelite when he cannot pay his debts, but only for 7 years. The slave can go free after that and if he wanted to stay, then his owner must pierce his ear. The gentile slave is not to be freed, ever.
Btw, Jews are descendants of the tribe of Judah, one of 12 Israelite tribes.
iDoctorIL 4 months ago
@iDoctorIL I no more believe that about twelve tribes of Israel than I believe in Romulus and Remus or Atlantis.
MartinJWillett 4 months ago
@MartinJWillett Believe it or not, there were two kingdoms in the biblical days.
One was Israel (the lost tribes) and Judea. There are solid evidences and archaeological findings for that.
iDoctorIL 4 months ago
@iDoctorIL I have no problem with two kingdoms, the bible clearly shows two slightly different traditions. It's the twelve tribes thing I just don't buy. Judah as an offshoot of the nation of Israel is reasonable, but twelve brothers of a man who wrestled and beat God? Give me a break.
MartinJWillett 4 months ago
@MartinJWillett There are also evidences of the destruction of the kingdom of Israel by Assyria or Babylon, i don't remember who. And most likely the lost tribes just assimilated with other people.
iDoctorIL 4 months ago
@iDoctorIL Assimilation is far more likely than any far-fetched notions of utter annihilation, enslavement en masse or magical exile to Africa, China or Britain that nobody noticed.
Where have the lost tribes been found this week? Behind the back of my sofa?
MartinJWillett 4 months ago
@MartinJWillett No.... most likely they are part of the Arab/Muslim nations.
I don't believe in fairy tails like they moved to America or Africa or China.
iDoctorIL 4 months ago
@iDoctorIL Did you know the name Jacob can be interpreted as meaning leg puller?
MartinJWillett 4 months ago
@MartinJWillett That is the exact interpretation in Hebrew .... just read the bible :)
iDoctorIL 4 months ago
Common knowledge to all thinking people, but not pointed out nearly often enough.
mrarcher857 4 months ago