As spectacular as it looks, single car flips are very rarely fatal. When a car flips the inertia of the crash is being dispersed around the car. The second impact, the force of the crash would have been absorbed entirely by the car and its driver. Sadly had he had the aero brakes NASCAR now uses to prevent blowovers, the second impact may not have happened. I have always found it bizzare why a third tier development series (which is effectively what ARCA is) runs at tracks like Talladega
@ROBLOXdude95 Roof flaps are air brakes, just a different dynamic, they create aerodynamic breaking when a car is moving in a reverse direction by increasing the cars drag coefficient when it reaches a critical angle. They're even mentioned in the wikipedia article pertaining to Air Brakes...
But thanks for demonstrating your obvious knowledge.
I was there. Rain had delayed the IROC race and the delay caused the ARCA race to start late. I was there to see Ken Ragan (David's dad) compete. Darkness was coming on and officials had decided to shorten the Arca race and was to due to conclude in about another 10 laps. We were sitting about 15 rows up, directly behind Doyle Ford in the flagstand. At first, it looked like Gehrke's car was gonna hit the flagstand.
I was there. Rain had delayed the IROC race and the delay caused the ARCA race to start late. I was there to see Ken Ragan (David's dad) compete. Darkness was coming on and officials had decided to shorten the Arca race and was to due to conclude in about another 10 laps. We were sitting up in the seats, directly behind Doyle Ford in the flagstand.
Its sad to see accidents like this where drivers die when basic racing safety rules could have been in place. Car upside down should have been an automatic red flag. Im actually surprised more ARCA drivers weren't killed during this era.
@chrisfercheetham It was the t-bone that did it. I'm not sure, but think it was Red Farmer who hit Gerke in the drivers door. He was directly behind another car that veered to the outside at the last second and he didn't have a clear view.
@chrisfercheetham It was the t-bone that did it. I'm not sure, but think it was Red Farmer who hit Gerke in the drivers door. He was directly behind another car that veered to the outside at the last second and he didn't have a clear view. The impact sheered off the front of his car, which caught fire.
Arca drives dont know how to drive safe... its scares that they race super speedways... ive seen a lot of bad crashes happen because people dont apply the brakes in the series... 2010 Arca big one at daytona, 2009 at daytona with Patrick Sheltra... the lists goes on... these drives shouldnt be allowed to race super speedways, every time you see a driver spin it might be bad cause they just dont slow down...
@SaintBEEP NASCAR and ARCA are two completly different sactioning bodies.They have similar cars(at least before the COT) but hey have different rules and NASCAR has no affiliation with ARCA.Alot of ARCA teams do use old cup cars.
@justwin42 indeed, but if u check what the series is called, its called the NASCAR Arca series, and most of the drivers are young and new to racing, teams like Rodger Penske and Jack Roush race young drivers in this league all the time to test their abilities.
@SaintBEEP No, it's not called the NASCAR ARCA series at all, just the ARCA Series or ARCA Remax Series (their title sponsor). NASCAR and ARCA are two different sanctioning bodies and legal entities, just as CART and the IRL was. You are correct that rising NASCAR stars race in ARCA for more experience, and they do cooperate on race weekends, but NASCAR has no authority on how an ARCA race is run, or vice versa. ASA is another national sanctioning body just like ARCA, it too has no affiliation.
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wowza!! what a ripper!! imagine staring out ur lil window at that car coming str8 at you!! he probably shat himself just b4 he died. i know i would have.
lol. yeah rich like erton senna....all the money in the world ain't worth driving a motorised coffin!! Stop sniffin the petrol fumes it truly is altering your sense of reality!
@bmxking46 No, I remember JD at the Glen, I thought this was one of those weekends that JD didn't qualify for the WC race but ran the ARCA race (he did that now and then, back in the day the rules for the cars were ridiculously similar so an overnight re-do could get you in the ARCA race. Not so now) and got tangled up with this. He may be one of the other spinners, but I was pretty sure he was in the thick of this somewhere. But now that they say it yeah, Miskotten.
Because THIS IS NOT NASCAR! THIS IS ARCAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!! LOL. Get it? Like "THIS IS SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!" Except I said ARCA, because THIS IS THE RACING SERIES THAT they are racing! NASCAR and ARCA are TWO DIFFERENT RACING SERIES! ARCA is for dumbasses who don't race good enough to race in the Sprint Cup series and drivers who are not old enough to race in NASCAR yet(16 and 17 yrs. old), and NASCAR is for drivers who are REALLY good drivers. LOL.
Comparing a 1991 crash to a 2007 crash is just dumb. You can't do it, really, even from one form of motorsport to another.
Driving in circles is a lot harder than it looks. In F1 the majority of the danger comes from the circuit, in NASCAR it comes from the other cars on the track because there's so many of them and the tracks (the good ones anyway) require the cars to be pretty close to each other.
this crash was massive it was weird how he went airbourne.
bedwelldawson 3 months ago
@bedwelldawson No, it was a classic blowover.
TheValKBawz 2 months ago
As spectacular as it looks, single car flips are very rarely fatal. When a car flips the inertia of the crash is being dispersed around the car. The second impact, the force of the crash would have been absorbed entirely by the car and its driver. Sadly had he had the aero brakes NASCAR now uses to prevent blowovers, the second impact may not have happened. I have always found it bizzare why a third tier development series (which is effectively what ARCA is) runs at tracks like Talladega
ramfeild66 6 months ago
@ramfeild66 Roof flaps, retard
ROBLOXdude95 5 months ago
@ROBLOXdude95 Roof flaps are air brakes, just a different dynamic, they create aerodynamic breaking when a car is moving in a reverse direction by increasing the cars drag coefficient when it reaches a critical angle. They're even mentioned in the wikipedia article pertaining to Air Brakes...
But thanks for demonstrating your obvious knowledge.
ramfeild66 5 months ago
that is not broadside, that is 1st degree murder.
vanmourikr 7 months ago
How can dringing round in a circle go so wrong ?
BangTheBomb 7 months ago
@BangTheBomb When cars go 200mph and flip and slam into each other.
thepspman116 7 months ago
Check the crash of Kieth O'dor on the AVUS track in 1995. It's a bit like this one...
Navitori 9 months ago
Must have been a terrible sight to see for all 5 people in the stands.
thespainisharmada 10 months ago 5
@thespainisharmada LOL
stknightisawesome 10 months ago
I was there. Rain had delayed the IROC race and the delay caused the ARCA race to start late. I was there to see Ken Ragan (David's dad) compete. Darkness was coming on and officials had decided to shorten the Arca race and was to due to conclude in about another 10 laps. We were sitting about 15 rows up, directly behind Doyle Ford in the flagstand. At first, it looked like Gehrke's car was gonna hit the flagstand.
Tater1951 11 months ago
I was there. Rain had delayed the IROC race and the delay caused the ARCA race to start late. I was there to see Ken Ragan (David's dad) compete. Darkness was coming on and officials had decided to shorten the Arca race and was to due to conclude in about another 10 laps. We were sitting up in the seats, directly behind Doyle Ford in the flagstand.
Tater1951 11 months ago
Its sad to see accidents like this where drivers die when basic racing safety rules could have been in place. Car upside down should have been an automatic red flag. Im actually surprised more ARCA drivers weren't killed during this era.
SJsharksdude 11 months ago
which car was it thats driver died?? the one on fire or the one that flipped??
jomparkes97 1 year ago
@jomparkes97 the one that flipped
reefshark46 1 year ago
hate it
theres yellow out
most drivers slow down change their line to pass safely
but the pack of three obviously arent fully aware of their environment
always sad when it could have been avoided..
Spionsilver 1 year ago
May be a pointless question, but was it the initial crash that caused the most damage or the second incident when he got T-boned?
chrisfercheetham 1 year ago
@chrisfercheetham It was the t-bone that did it. I'm not sure, but think it was Red Farmer who hit Gerke in the drivers door. He was directly behind another car that veered to the outside at the last second and he didn't have a clear view.
Tater1951 11 months ago
@chrisfercheetham It was the t-bone that did it. I'm not sure, but think it was Red Farmer who hit Gerke in the drivers door. He was directly behind another car that veered to the outside at the last second and he didn't have a clear view. The impact sheered off the front of his car, which caught fire.
Tater1951 11 months ago
car rare speeding should end up like that..
samquan123 1 year ago
Whoever hit poor CG is a noob and derserves to has his license revoked
mat2000100 1 year ago
You can see his helmet poke out when he gets hit... sad
myboyamp88 1 year ago
@myboyamp88 yeah, you're right
Rob34212 1 year ago
@Rob34212 kinda disturbing
myboyamp88 1 year ago
ARCA has "ARCA Brakes", which are about 25% as effective of slowing down cars as regular NASCAR brakes are.
flyerfan019283new 1 year ago
You can see his head sticking out the driver's side window of the car!
SkeeboDa1 1 year ago
Arca drives dont know how to drive safe... its scares that they race super speedways... ive seen a lot of bad crashes happen because people dont apply the brakes in the series... 2010 Arca big one at daytona, 2009 at daytona with Patrick Sheltra... the lists goes on... these drives shouldnt be allowed to race super speedways, every time you see a driver spin it might be bad cause they just dont slow down...
DavidOrtiz36 1 year ago
I love how there were like 10 people in the stands.
YourRulerSkeletos 1 year ago
Was he in the black car that flipped at the beginning?
barneynward 1 year ago
@barneynward yeh, he survived the flips but not the hit.
18sux29rox 1 year ago
@barneynward yes, it was the hit after he was flipping that killed him....
SaintBEEP 1 year ago
@chupaisto1 what??
NASCARWWEclubpenguin 1 year ago
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Oh well...they know the risks. Nascar sucks until theres an "accident", BUT...I certainly dont want to see ANYONE die. RIP.
donwolfjr1 2 years ago
@donwolfjr1 this is not NASCAR this is ARCA
NASCARWWEclubpenguin 2 years ago
@NASCARWWEclubpenguin its the NASCAR ARCA series, so its kind of both.
SaintBEEP 1 year ago
@SaintBEEP NASCAR and ARCA are two completly different sactioning bodies.They have similar cars(at least before the COT) but hey have different rules and NASCAR has no affiliation with ARCA.Alot of ARCA teams do use old cup cars.
justwin42 1 year ago
@justwin42 indeed, but if u check what the series is called, its called the NASCAR Arca series, and most of the drivers are young and new to racing, teams like Rodger Penske and Jack Roush race young drivers in this league all the time to test their abilities.
SaintBEEP 1 year ago
@SaintBEEP No, it's not called the NASCAR ARCA series at all, just the ARCA Series or ARCA Remax Series (their title sponsor). NASCAR and ARCA are two different sanctioning bodies and legal entities, just as CART and the IRL was. You are correct that rising NASCAR stars race in ARCA for more experience, and they do cooperate on race weekends, but NASCAR has no authority on how an ARCA race is run, or vice versa. ASA is another national sanctioning body just like ARCA, it too has no affiliation.
qtipvesto 1 year ago
Chris Gehrke flips and Carl Miskotten nails him. Miskotten survived but never raced again.
WSBT960 2 years ago
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Was that Ricky Bobby?
yknottry1 2 years ago
which one died ? a few people got hit
Tombothebomb 2 years ago
The guy who flipped and got t-boned later.
R.I.P. Chris Gehrke
Montoya42Fan 2 years ago 6
Rip chris!
JGordonFan24ever 2 years ago 2
Which car is being driven by Chris?
Jesant13 2 years ago
the black car flipping and gets hit by another car again.. im not sure if thats the car
NASCARWWEclubpenguin 2 years ago
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an old Nascar. They're all the same, just got different headlight stickers on 'em... so much for 'stock' cars ey
MsFarQ2 2 years ago
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wowza!! what a ripper!! imagine staring out ur lil window at that car coming str8 at you!! he probably shat himself just b4 he died. i know i would have.
weert6666 2 years ago
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his last name scares me
MarkGehrke1 2 years ago
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LOL
chucknorris523 2 years ago
really i dont understand why it would lol
ShawnGehrke 2 years ago 3
Murphy's Law right there.
ruhtraeel 2 years ago
whos in the black car that was flip over in the begging...and who smash into him striaght on? very terrible accident
xkillaz18x 2 years ago
the one in the black car is Chris Gehrke the guy who died from that crash
NASCARWWEclubpenguin 2 years ago
who is who? looks like the guy who hit him could of died....very sad anyways.
1961pontiac 3 years ago
read the beginning of the video...and yes it's very sad :(
strosse 3 years ago
hard hit
atacou 3 years ago
sad =C
jinlimba 3 years ago
lol. yeah rich like erton senna....all the money in the world ain't worth driving a motorised coffin!! Stop sniffin the petrol fumes it truly is altering your sense of reality!
autimum 3 years ago
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His name is Airton Senna da Silva, and he's from Brazil.
He was a big idol here in Brazil
brunoguillen 3 years ago
i thought it was spelt Ayrton Senna
he was like my racing idol sad day when he died
andrewrogers 2 years ago
i'm pretty sure f1 is pretty much the safest motorsport series today...
my proof, watch robert kubica's crash in canada 2007..
the guys suffered only a very lightly spinned ankle and sat for 1 race only just as precaution.
a crash much lighter than this 10 yrs ago would have definitely killed him..
eagleeyes86 3 years ago
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Nascar = rednecks, F1= eurotrash?
Stefan415 3 years ago
You seem negative lol
NialoF2 3 years ago
I agree F1 is no safer than any other series, but Zanardis wreck was not in F1.
cj52racers 3 years ago
was chris the guy who flipped or the the one who broadsided the guy because they were both really hard hits
sabbathbassdude14 3 years ago
Chris is the car that flips. The guy that hits him is Carl Miskotten III,if I remember correctly.
SimRacin14 3 years ago
J.D. McDuffie, maybe?
cartryahoo 1 year ago
@cartryahoo uhm, i dunno if ur refering to THIS vid, but this wasnt McDuffie, he died at Walkinsglen, not tally
bmxking46 1 year ago
@bmxking46 No, I remember JD at the Glen, I thought this was one of those weekends that JD didn't qualify for the WC race but ran the ARCA race (he did that now and then, back in the day the rules for the cars were ridiculously similar so an overnight re-do could get you in the ARCA race. Not so now) and got tangled up with this. He may be one of the other spinners, but I was pretty sure he was in the thick of this somewhere. But now that they say it yeah, Miskotten.
cartryahoo 1 year ago
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nascar is boring.
F1Fanatiko 3 years ago
your boring
traceurfrombris 3 years ago
Why would you fucking say that on a video of a racer dying?
DecimatedDreams01 3 years ago
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Because THIS IS NOT NASCAR! THIS IS ARCAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!! LOL. Get it? Like "THIS IS SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!" Except I said ARCA, because THIS IS THE RACING SERIES THAT they are racing! NASCAR and ARCA are TWO DIFFERENT RACING SERIES! ARCA is for dumbasses who don't race good enough to race in the Sprint Cup series and drivers who are not old enough to race in NASCAR yet(16 and 17 yrs. old), and NASCAR is for drivers who are REALLY good drivers. LOL.
DFDSFUEIFH 2 years ago
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LOL
superdragon3000 3 years ago
Comparing a 1991 crash to a 2007 crash is just dumb. You can't do it, really, even from one form of motorsport to another.
Driving in circles is a lot harder than it looks. In F1 the majority of the danger comes from the circuit, in NASCAR it comes from the other cars on the track because there's so many of them and the tracks (the good ones anyway) require the cars to be pretty close to each other.
Cynon44 3 years ago 15
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what r u saying that nascar is better than F1 racing? Pleaseee
Arlind86 3 years ago
Are they just going around in one big circle?
jaguaret 3 years ago
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ya but here is a point F1 is gay.
AmberDoll77 3 years ago
This was in 1991 dude, you can't compare a 2007 f1 crash with this. Modern nascar cars are amazingly safe.
moxeus 3 years ago 16
@moxeus and plastic too.
AlKezer712 1 year ago
@moxeus Just ask Joey Logano, Sam Hornish Jr., or Michael McDowell.
Porygonseizureman 11 months ago
ya excactly it just means dat nascar isnt as safe as sports like f1 because robert kubicas's crash was much worse and he only got a concushin
icanttinkof1 3 years ago
Um dude? In 2001 Alex Zanardi had both his legs amputated in a crash in Germany. F1 is not safe at all.
DecimatedDreams01 3 years ago
Zanardi raced in IndyCar.
TyVulpine 3 years ago
Oops, I meant CART. (Offshoot of IndyCar)
TyVulpine 3 years ago
weird ...u see much worse crashes and ppl survive....just guess how u get hit or what spot u land akwardly on..
popopop824 3 years ago
best damn sport out there!! These guys know the dangers, but they take the risks cuz its what they love to do!!
jewelanne31 3 years ago
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NASCAR is so damn sick.
sniggedi 3 years ago
Ya it is
DaBears761 3 years ago