Christianity, along with every other religion, is contemptuous nonsense. But if you are going to support it, this is the next best thing to letting it go. Ron paul is the only serious candidate in this race, and I worry about the future of a country of people who can't see that.
I vote for Peace Too Jesus doesn't run America he runs Heaven. Jesus said i didn't come to bring PEACE but a Sword Now what does that mean? it means the Sword of the Spirit which is one of the 6 peaces of the Armor of GOD and he didnt bring Universalism Peace of Foolish Liberals he Brought Love for ALL who Come to him. how do you come to God? Reading your Bible and Loving your neighbor and your ENEMY as if they were you his Kingdom his PEACEFUL he will bring Heaven on his return Amen
Ron Paul is the only guy that can actually bring dignity and integrity back to the white house chair, if not him then there is no faith left in our government, not only are americans for him, but people in other countries are routing for him as well. We have played the world police role way too long now, and it's time to stop before something bad happens again here in our country again. Time to get out of other countries we dont belong and stock up on military to protect our own country first
While Ron teaches peace, as Christ did, the way Ron Paul speaks truth to power will rock the foundations of US politics for years to come. In exposing the true, criminal nature of the US political elite, they will be forced to use violence to keep the people under control. So Ron Paul's ideas will bring violence and anger and division, just as Christ's did in his ministry of truth and peace. 'Truth is treason in the empire of lies.'
Think not that I came to send peace on the earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I came to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law: and a man's foes'shall be they of his own household.
But realize he's talking spiritually. Not physical conflict. Family can be a deterrent for people admitting their faith.
For a little context: Matthew 10: 32-33
Whoever acknowledges me before others, I will also acknowledge before my Father in heaven. But whoever disowns me before others, I will disown before my Father in heaven.
The most important thing is Ron Paul believes in peace through God. It does not matter what your or his religious belief is. The fact that he believes in peace through his God is enough. And to sum it all... religious belief of a president shouldn't be a issue as long as he/she does not intervene in science class. Ron Paul won't because he is a minimalist. Thanks.
@NeedNineNamesNow I could believe that if it were true. He gets to his god through Christ, who he states doesn't justify preemptive war (he does). There are a lot of apologetic hidey holes in Christian theology, to twist biblical references to suggest otherwise but one thing is for certain, the book is not consistent. If Ron Paul weren't preaching, his religion wouldn't need to be an issue for his presidency. Religion is a dangerous soap box to stand on.
@UTubeBrowzer I haven't seen him preach. may be you could lead me to a video. i watched many of his campaigns and he never talks about religion though. Now keep in mind he is 76... you cannot expect him to be Richard Dawkins. He is a good person and I am 100% sure that he won't interfere with the theory of evolution. It would violate his non-interventionist policy
@NeedNineNamesNow Did you just watch *this* video? You know, the one where he says we're steering away from the Christian path? I get it, that some tenets of Christianity are admirable, but there are in no way indicative of a Christian ideology. Representing a religion as being the ideal without any consideration for all of the facts is preaching.
@UTubeBrowzer I think he is saying that the nation is drifting away from the values of peace. To him peace is parallel to Christianity. Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think secularism, atheism were that popular when the speech was recorded. I think he is just disappointed that people are justifying war through Christianity. He says "That's what I see through my god" and I believe he is trying to make religion more personal than preaching it. The goal's peace here and religion is his way.
@UTubeBrowzer i know but religion is such a personal thing that if you blame it for the extremists... the good people also get hurt. its better not to bring up the issue of religion in anything imo. let things like presidential debate be alone. its unfortunate that the presidents have to swear by the bible... i see it unnecessary and archaic. it would be nice if we all keep the religious views inside us as long as any religious group try to destry established knowledge, aka theory of evolution.
@NeedNineNamesNow I do blame religion for extremists, because its leadership do nothing to dissuade them. Their tenets do nothing to discourage the sort of behavior extremists demonstrate is the reason why it is so dangerous. All three Abrahamic religious doctrines support killing in the name of. Not all religion does this, but for those that do, they have a lot of growing up to do. I tip my hat to the wisdom of Jainism in this. Their extremists become even more pacified.
@UTubeBrowzer hmm... idk mahn... i am not even old enough to vote... if you are... make a good choice. whom do you support? if you have seen today's debate Gringrich and Romney have really outrageous views on God. Gringrich literally believes that he needs god's guidance to solve problems. It was way too much... rick perry level.
@NeedNineNamesNow I'm not an American. I don't vote in American politics. I follow American politics because they effect international relations between our two countries. I would vote in Obama again, despite his reputation. He at least tries to do what he says he's going to and doesn't pretend that he's able to do everything he says he wants to. Since none of the republican party represent a non-partisan position, I can stand by no other candidate.
@UTubeBrowzer You would vote for a man that tried and failed. Does that say he is not fit for the job? Yes it does. Ron Paul would have only to enforce the constitution for the US government to work again, and he is the champion of the constitution. Who better for the job? :P
@hoppie182 Tried and failed at what? Government isn't run by one person. That's a communist mindset to lay the blame for any of the failures of an entire government on one person. I'm not saying Ron Paul is bad. As far as republicans go, he's probably one of the best, but he's not making a stronger case for himself throwing the US constitution under the bus by characterizing the agenda of America as unchristian and reigniting that torch.
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@ModestConfidence Then he would be acting. People like him because he DOESNT act. Honorable right? he has never changed his stance on anything and if hes a believer in Christ and His love for us then Paul is going to have an extremely realistic and, in my eyes, superior view than that of the others. Support him no matte what. Let him live and show his character because so far it been proven and people are finally catching on.
@ModestConfidence That's exactly what I hope.If he said he's not religious,his chances to be a president of US goes to zero.What he's saying about Jesus is crap because Jesus is a God himself and God loves stoning,rape,genocide,slavery and so on...Jesus didn't come to bring a peace but sword(Matthew 10,34-37).
He said it. He looks to religion on how to run the country. He cites Jesus as a justification to not wage war. He didn't say that war was inherently bad for the country or that the Constitution should decide. He said he looks to Jesus and his religion tdecide.
@Ipowne3g another troll, go back in your cave moneky (if u believe in something fake, evolution? really? where? ha ha ha, stop being so gullible to all the media induced vomit of "evolution" what's next ? werewolves? vampires? ROTFLMAO)
@Ipowne3g Many atheists support Ron Paul. And besides Ron Paul believes in theistic evolution (he stated it in his book 'Liberty Defined'). He doesn't support forcing any belief on anyone.
While I was a bit stunned upon hearing that Paul does not accept evolution, a little thinking on the manner will remind us that we don't put a President in office to be a biologist.
It is not as if Paul for teaching Creationism in schools.
A President's knowledge of biology should not be made equally important with his knowledge of politics, his foreign policy, his plan to solve the debt crisis, his wanting to bring our troops home, his wanting to end the useless war on drugs,etc.
Praise God. The true message is that while we believe He to be the only way to heaven Jesus rebuked his own disciples for wanting to attack the very guards who took Jesus into custody before his crucifixion.
@roar5952 Jesus might not have been anything but a character in a story. But it really doesn't matter what you attribute to Jesus or any religious or historical figure. What matters is what we do. If Jesus wanted war, that doesn't mean war is better than if he didn't want war or any violence at all.
Just war doctrine is not very well founded in the Bible. Jesus didn't go to war like the Jews thought the Messiah would. Jesus said "Love your enemies" "Turn the other cheek" and "Those who live by the sword die by the sword."
@tollbrand Why would you tax the rich, so there are less jobs than there are now? I'm not religious and I'm against abortion. Half the people in this country don't have any dignity or morals anymore plain and simple.
@mouse4689 i would tax the rich to distribute the wealth...people don't have jobs anyway,it's not going to get any better if the ultra rich will pay less tax.abortion is the business of the women who decides to do it,it is not my business to tell her what to do.if you ban it it will go underground ,like it was before
@mouse4689 Taxing the rich would definitely not decrease job creation. Taxes don't have as much of an effect as they're made out to, but if anything, they would increase jobs. The wealthy sit on trillions of dollars that aren't being circulated. If you tax that, it gets circulated into the economy and gets in the hands of the poor and middle class in the form of salaries.
@mouse4689 "Half the people in this country don't have any dignity or morals anymore plain and simple. "
And irony of ironies, religion is in no way a requirement to exercise moral character.
"Why would you tax the rich, so there are less jobs than there are now?"
Taxing the rich has all of *nothing* to do with jobs. Rich people don't create jobs, markets do...FREE markets. Markets that are free to succeed OR fail on their own merits.
He disapproves of ILLEGAL immigrants being here, but realizes rounding up 11 million people and deporting them is pretty much not possible, so he just wants the magnets for it eliminated.
He also disapproves of abortion, but wants each state to decide whether or not to allow it, not the federal government. Same thing with research; federal funding/subsidies should not go into any kind of scientific research in his view. States can look at the science and decide on it.
Vote for someone who won't change a single thing for the better, or follow through on any promise, then. We all *still* have the freedom to vote for whomever we like.
Following that logic - if there was nothing before god, then doesn't than mean that god doesn't exist - because there was nothing to create god?
Arguments based upon potentially incomplete or circular logic are useless. If you don't yet have a rational answer - keep searching for one. Don't invent a fairly tale as an excuse to stop searching.
@KDanagger - I wasn't referring to "God" - I was referring to *whatever* is the reason behind our existence... to postulate that there is none is the bit I cannot stomach... for if there is none, then our lives have no meaning whatsoever...
Ron Paul is a christian I respect. I don't believe what he believes but he believes in the good parts of the bible and doesn't want to try to control the country with religion.
If Paul gets elected I'll be happy knowing that if I write him a letter asking him to please explain to the people in more detail his interpretation of "separation of church and state," I may very well get a response. This is not a political machine held up by 500-600 people making decisions for a puppet. This is a politician and philosopher who many believed was extinct...one with ready-to-exercise opinions backed up by facts.
@TheLukeSchiltz I can understand that pessimism, and a pessimism that he can make things much better despite his personal integrity, is I think warranted, but due to our Party system, Paul *can* get elected. Fox just broadcast that Paul may get the Republican nomination, and if he gets that, ~about 50% of the country is automatically behind him, and if his supporters work hard enough and donate, he can be elected.
I don't know about pro-constitution, but America needs to change it's system to a multiparty, parliamentary regime. The old ways just don't seem to work these days...
@CosmoShidan I would love to see a multi-party system, but, in the interim, I think we need the honesty and peaceable nature Paul would bring to government.
@givebirthathome I'd rather a tough, rigidly honest type in power. Doesn't matter what ideologue the ruler be. BTW, what's with Paul saying that all the founding fathers were Christian? Thomas Jefferson was an Epicurean; especially when Jefferson said "all are created equal" he meant that we all made out of matter with no real purpose other than to create purpose.
@CosmoShidan I don't know what's with Paul saying all the founding father's were Christian; they were at least "culturally Christian", and you can see for example, George Washington's Thanksgiving proclamation.
TJ had a complex philosophy, not easily assigned to today's partisan tribes. Jefferson did excerpt Jesus's sayings from the Bible and called them something like "the best philosophy known to man". In the sense of studying and following Jesus's teachings then, Jefferson was a Christian
@CosmoShidan Here on youtube I've seen people proclaim themselves "pagan Christians" while other Christians freaked and told them they could not be pagan Christians. I guess there are Christian epicureans, too.
@givebirthathome No. As a disciple of Epicurus, we are not Christian; either agnostic or atheist, or rather "principled atheists" whom have no interest in politics usually, reject the notion of an afterlife and believe everything is made up of atoms and void. Although there are exceptions such as Julius Cesare was a member of the philosophy.
@CosmoShidan By your definition then, Thomas Jefferson was not an Epicurean---lots of his letters survive, so we have some extensive knowledge of his ideas. TJ was not a Christian in the standard Trinitarian sense; he was a Unitarian. Here is a quote from one of TJ's letters describing his sense of the fundamental principles of accurate belief (which he contrasted with some common Christian beliefs of his time that he did not agree with):
@CosmoShidan (Jefferson's religious beliefs): "1. That there is one only God, and he all perfect.
2. That there is a future state of rewards and punishments.
3. That to love God with all thy heart and thy neighbor as thyself, is the sum of religion" Here's another quote: "May the Infinite Power which rules the destinies...give them...peace and prosperity." 1st Inaugural Address 1801
@givebirthathome Then again didn't he also say: "Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law. In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own"
@CosmoShidan I don't know! However, someone can easily be a Christian and against the church. The largest denomination of colonial America (40%) was Society of Friends, and they were utterly against paid clergy. Quakerism is lead by its own adherents who don't go to seminary.
@givebirthathome I see. There should be mandatory courses about other religions in American junior schools for that is what we are taught up here in Canada. On the other hand, I still go with the fact that TJ was Epicurean and the Founding Fathers being Deist for if America was a Christian nation then that would imply unity of church and state when the former should be separate of the latter.
@CosmoShidan Generally, we haven't been touching religion "with a ten-foot pole" in schools, for decades--although in certain areas, there are problems. So, no, in America, in general there is no teaching of religion--recently there have been a few pioneering efforts to have "comparative religion" courses in some places with major immigration, in order to promote tolerance.
@givebirthathome Man, you guys are so behind. Especially since Ancient, Medieval, and Modern history are taught in college instead of grades 6-12. Such subjects should be touched upon in said grades.
Christian Crusades they the christians killed sooo many millions in the name of God for what? Nothing there sick murderous blood hungry psychopaths brain washed by a so called GOD! People should make mother earth/Nature there religion and pray to the planet and the animals! If this happened the world would be healthy,clean, vigorous! THere would be less social problems less wars less pedophilia!
"Religion has lost its way" XD Religion is the worst thing to have ever happened to humanity. It never had a way, or at least violent religions like christianity and islam.
Amendment 1 states in part: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof....." This goes two ways..America is (supposed to be) a Republic and can't be a Theocracy. This part of Amendment 1 also allows Americans to freely practice their chosen "religion". Being Ron Paul has a 30 yr record as a strict Constitutionalist, it's not likely that he would now disregard the 1st Amendment and mandate his chosen "religion" on the nation.
I like the candidate who doesn't use God as a soundbite or for political gain. If you hear Ron Paul in debates he never brings up his Christian belief to please the crowd. I believe him when he says he is for the Constitution. That means that there will be no one religion lorded over us, and no religion will be persecuted. That's how it should be.
"Freedom of Religion" is not freedom from religion as so many Secularists argue, lamorte42. To deny that which shapes us and our views is a preposterous notion. Sure it shapes us, but we have to act like it doesn't? How bizarre and schizophrenic is that? Your atheism shapes your views and actions...do you need to stop telling us that your an unbeliever in the political realm or be ostracized? The 1st Amend. was to avoid a "Church of the U.S." Nothing more
If you got lost on the fact that he is a Christian behind his actual identity as a peacemaker...if you are so quick to dismiss someone's judgment simply based on your religious prejudice...I don't want you voting at all, bigot.
@FindingEudaimonia By that I mean thats where I don't agree with him. I have agreed with him on marijuana and that America needs to stop being the police of the world. I'd still vote for him, even if he does believe in something that seems so unbelievably ridiculous.
There IS NO peace with a government owned by corporations and global bankers, PERPETUAL WAR is their "RACKET!" see this: watch?v=Z4lYkjQ4W5I & watch?v=6xca6o38ZNY Know who our TRUE enemies are.
WHAT does this have to do with Ron Paul? He is the only man as POTUS who will INDEPENDENTLY re-investigate the root of US current Imperialism across the globe & see that justice is served. Thus doing what is good in the eyes of THE CREATOR ! Saving the planet from the century's old BANKING DEMONS!
THE US FEDS have gotten away w/murder.Its FACT the CIA w/ LBJ etc murdered JFK BC he wanted interest free money for America close the Federal Reserve & CIA.Also RFK, MLK's assassination was proven in US courts w/CIA ties.The DOCUMENTED economic coups WORLDWIDE for eons & now in Afghan. Iraq, LIBYA! PROVES who owns the USA the same Rothschild "Central" bankers our founders warned of! I dont know how we'll get RP elected BC its RIGGED! AGAIN! Religion or NO! These DEMONS WITHIN must be ELIMINATED!
Religion OR NOT! Many Americans & THE US FED GOVT ARE ON THE HATRED OF OUR BROTHERS BANDWAGON! Research the mountains of facts as to how 911 was planned to continue the U.S. bloody global wars & ALL IS BREAD & CIRCUSES ! the many who continue to profit from giving corporations & ROTHSCHILD bankers global power, the many many murdered to shut them up on witnessing these facts. The true terrorists are the corps & banks whom OWN the US FEDS & global bloodshed & DEBT BASED BANKING is their game.
@Blasfuhmee What exactly is it about what Christians have been saying over and over and over again, in that Christ being for peace that doesant make sense before Ron has made the statement???. As far as i know Christians have made perfect sense for those who were willing to listen, however i grant it to you that most of their behaviour hasent warranted them being listend to.
Man is a Religious Animal. He is the only Religious Animal. He is the only animal that has the True Religion - several of them. He is the only animal that loves his neighbor as himself and cuts his throat if his theology isn’t straight. He has made a graveyard of the globe in trying his honest best to smooth his brother’s path to happiness and heaven. – Mark Twain
RON PAUL should know that the quote "DON´T DO UNTO OTHERS AS YOU DON´T WANT THEM TO DO UNTO YOU" was pronouced 550 b.C by CONFUCIOUS, a philosopher and politician PRO-P E A C E. So, even atheists want peace, not just x-tians, muslims, jews, etc. Hope he is not another Huckabee like bigot candidate for the US Presidency.
What really sux is that after Ron Paul is dead, you aethiests will distort his words to convince people that he was an anti-religious aethiest just as they have done with our founding fathers.
@PostPetroleumPrepper what really sucks is that the only men in our country brave enough to stand for true liberty and run for office have to get that strength from somewhere else, and cannot draw it from themselves. the day we get a just athiest into office is the day our country reclaims it's title of the greatest country in the world.
@thedavid2222 Are you supporting my argument that we need to expel the monopoly of religion in our public school system? More quotes please you are furthering my argument.
@PostPetroleumPrepper "The way to see by Faith is to shut the eye of Reason". Benjamin Franklin.
The 1796 Treaty with Tripoli states that the United States was "not in any sense founded on the Christian religion". "In every country and every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty -Thomas Jefferson. "Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise."-James Madison. There's alot more where that came from.
the problem is everyone is trying to get rid of God in everything, religion has a huge part in politics and should be kept in the government, religion can teach morals and values which we americans are starting lose at a fast pace...whens the last time you heard something positive on the news, all i hear is 5 year murders someone today, girl gets raped, old lady gets robbed, whatever happened to the good, you never hear...bill gates give money to charity, doctors find cure for cancer.....
@lamorte42 Well, atheist run governments like the old Soviet Union and the Mao years of China were great. Hey, North Korea is an atheistic run government, maybe move there! All kinds of options for ya. Christianity isn't what's wrong with this country, it's the only thing keeping it from complete and total collapse.
@RF6480 Only if you buy the whitewash version of history sold to us by today's religious right wing media. The Constitution was perhaps the most important secular document ever written.
@RF6480 hahahaha what? you don't know anything. none of the founding fathers were christian, save for John Jay. they actually saw christianity as a bloody religion full of ignorance. this country was founded by deists. the reason it is going down the toilet is because of the resounding number of dumb christians.
Being a libertarian, I always hear bashing that our founders hated religion. And that really bothers me because of how factually wrong that is. They were not supersupersupersupersuper religious, but religion was obviously an influencing factor. And a problem I have is that i bet in 50 to 100 years, people will be claiming how anti-religious Ron Paul was, which is absurd. I have read multiple religious writing from Dr. Paul
@glessnerdawg12 While they did not actively go against religion, they did speak against it. Especially Christianity. Most of the Founding Fathers spoke out against Christianity, most notably Thomas Jefferson. The majority of the Fathers were desist, and didn't uphold any religious dogma.
@Cobaltryno "I really like Ron Paul and almost all his stances, except for the whole pro-religion thing and that he doesn't believe in evolution"
Except I don't believe Dr. Paul would be the kind of man who would force you to accept his religious beliefs and, as an individual who leans Libertarian, he likely would allow you to choose your own beliefs, whatever they may be.
@Cobaltryno The beauty of Ron Paul is that he believes you have no right to impose your views on him, just as he has no right to coerce you into believing what he practices. I'm not Christian, but I couldn't care less what Paul believes in because he doesn't let his personal beliefs spill over into government dictating those habits to the people.
"I strongly believe that there is a Christian doctrine of just war." -- So war can be justified if it's done the way Christianity would have it be done?
Ron Paul is the only hope for America. He can truly change this country for the better. He is clearly enlightened. Ron Paul 2012. A great change is coming.
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I am an athiest, and I approve of his message. Word.
jwlandfair 5 days ago
Christianity, along with every other religion, is contemptuous nonsense. But if you are going to support it, this is the next best thing to letting it go. Ron paul is the only serious candidate in this race, and I worry about the future of a country of people who can't see that.
Sparty704 1 week ago
long time since i seen this
LYinKansas 1 week ago
someday Jesus will Come back and Bring a Perfect Heaven.
where no one who fights Christians will Live because they Reject TRUE PEACE
untill then We can be Like Abraham and Ron Paul
if you wont be for Christians Don't be Against Us
you will get your Reward acording to your works
Ron Paul Is a Peace Maker and
The Bible Says Blessed are the Peace makers for they will be Called the Children of GOD!
libbyandtai 3 weeks ago
libbyandtai 3 weeks ago
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@libbyandtai absolutly correct jesus brings the peace by dividing his flock good from evil separating.
jacosoft666 1 week ago
Ron Paul is the only guy that can actually bring dignity and integrity back to the white house chair, if not him then there is no faith left in our government, not only are americans for him, but people in other countries are routing for him as well. We have played the world police role way too long now, and it's time to stop before something bad happens again here in our country again. Time to get out of other countries we dont belong and stock up on military to protect our own country first
MrSteveinman1 4 weeks ago
I think Ron is wrong about why Jesus came
Matthew 10:34. "Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword.
demknights2010 4 weeks ago
@demknights2010
He didn't mean a sword to kill people with...
"The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I came that they may have life, and have it abundantly." John 10:10
"If possible, so far as it depends on you, be at peace with all men." Romans 12:18
"Pursue peace with all men, and the sanctification without which no one will see the Lord." Hebrews 12:14
madwonderland 4 weeks ago
@madwonderland Jesus ment the Sword of the Spirit.
which is the Bible
which is GODS WORD
which is one of the 6 Armor peace of GOD
Which Reminds us a Sword isn't just used for Attack but defence
his world Seperates good from evil
and someday We will be hated for being Christians
but untill then we can be like abraham and the pagan
if ur not for Christians don't be against us
blessed are the peace makers for they will be called the children of God
libbyandtai 3 weeks ago
While Ron teaches peace, as Christ did, the way Ron Paul speaks truth to power will rock the foundations of US politics for years to come. In exposing the true, criminal nature of the US political elite, they will be forced to use violence to keep the people under control. So Ron Paul's ideas will bring violence and anger and division, just as Christ's did in his ministry of truth and peace. 'Truth is treason in the empire of lies.'
MrExposethematrix 4 weeks ago
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@demknights2010 @madwonderland Jesus ment the Sword of the Spirit.
which is the Bible
which is GODS WORD
which is one of the 6 Armor peace of GOD
Which Reminds us a Sword isn't just used for Attack but defence
his world Seperates good from evil
and someday We will be hated for being Christians
but untill then we can be like abraham and the pagan
if ur not for Christians don't be against us
blessed are the peace makers for they will be called the children of God
libbyandtai 3 weeks ago
I really wish people would see that Ron Paul is the only good candidate.
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Pyronaut 4 weeks ago
Luke 12:34-36
Think not that I came to send peace on the earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I came to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law: and a man's foes'shall be they of his own household.
icebloodtonic 1 month ago
@icebloodtonic You meant Matthew 10: 34-36.
But realize he's talking spiritually. Not physical conflict. Family can be a deterrent for people admitting their faith.
For a little context: Matthew 10: 32-33
Whoever acknowledges me before others, I will also acknowledge before my Father in heaven. But whoever disowns me before others, I will disown before my Father in heaven.
DinosaurViking 4 weeks ago
The most important thing is Ron Paul believes in peace through God. It does not matter what your or his religious belief is. The fact that he believes in peace through his God is enough. And to sum it all... religious belief of a president shouldn't be a issue as long as he/she does not intervene in science class. Ron Paul won't because he is a minimalist. Thanks.
NeedNineNamesNow 1 month ago
@NeedNineNamesNow I could believe that if it were true. He gets to his god through Christ, who he states doesn't justify preemptive war (he does). There are a lot of apologetic hidey holes in Christian theology, to twist biblical references to suggest otherwise but one thing is for certain, the book is not consistent. If Ron Paul weren't preaching, his religion wouldn't need to be an issue for his presidency. Religion is a dangerous soap box to stand on.
UTubeBrowzer 1 month ago
@UTubeBrowzer I haven't seen him preach. may be you could lead me to a video. i watched many of his campaigns and he never talks about religion though. Now keep in mind he is 76... you cannot expect him to be Richard Dawkins. He is a good person and I am 100% sure that he won't interfere with the theory of evolution. It would violate his non-interventionist policy
NeedNineNamesNow 1 month ago
@NeedNineNamesNow Did you just watch *this* video? You know, the one where he says we're steering away from the Christian path? I get it, that some tenets of Christianity are admirable, but there are in no way indicative of a Christian ideology. Representing a religion as being the ideal without any consideration for all of the facts is preaching.
UTubeBrowzer 1 month ago
@UTubeBrowzer I think he is saying that the nation is drifting away from the values of peace. To him peace is parallel to Christianity. Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think secularism, atheism were that popular when the speech was recorded. I think he is just disappointed that people are justifying war through Christianity. He says "That's what I see through my god" and I believe he is trying to make religion more personal than preaching it. The goal's peace here and religion is his way.
NeedNineNamesNow 1 month ago
@NeedNineNamesNow That is truly unfortunate, because the tool he's using is the same tool millions use to justify war.
UTubeBrowzer 1 month ago
@UTubeBrowzer i know but religion is such a personal thing that if you blame it for the extremists... the good people also get hurt. its better not to bring up the issue of religion in anything imo. let things like presidential debate be alone. its unfortunate that the presidents have to swear by the bible... i see it unnecessary and archaic. it would be nice if we all keep the religious views inside us as long as any religious group try to destry established knowledge, aka theory of evolution.
NeedNineNamesNow 1 month ago
@NeedNineNamesNow I do blame religion for extremists, because its leadership do nothing to dissuade them. Their tenets do nothing to discourage the sort of behavior extremists demonstrate is the reason why it is so dangerous. All three Abrahamic religious doctrines support killing in the name of. Not all religion does this, but for those that do, they have a lot of growing up to do. I tip my hat to the wisdom of Jainism in this. Their extremists become even more pacified.
UTubeBrowzer 1 month ago
@UTubeBrowzer hmm... idk mahn... i am not even old enough to vote... if you are... make a good choice. whom do you support? if you have seen today's debate Gringrich and Romney have really outrageous views on God. Gringrich literally believes that he needs god's guidance to solve problems. It was way too much... rick perry level.
NeedNineNamesNow 1 month ago
@NeedNineNamesNow I'm not an American. I don't vote in American politics. I follow American politics because they effect international relations between our two countries. I would vote in Obama again, despite his reputation. He at least tries to do what he says he's going to and doesn't pretend that he's able to do everything he says he wants to. Since none of the republican party represent a non-partisan position, I can stand by no other candidate.
UTubeBrowzer 1 month ago
@UTubeBrowzer well its a good thing you dont vote
tylowylo12321 1 month ago
@UTubeBrowzer You would vote for a man that tried and failed. Does that say he is not fit for the job? Yes it does. Ron Paul would have only to enforce the constitution for the US government to work again, and he is the champion of the constitution. Who better for the job? :P
hoppie182 1 month ago
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@hoppie182 Tried and failed at what? Government isn't run by one person. That's a communist mindset to lay the blame for any of the failures of an entire government on one person. I'm not saying Ron Paul is bad. As far as republicans go, he's probably one of the best, but he's not making a stronger case for himself throwing the US constitution under the bus by characterizing the agenda of America as unchristian and reigniting that torch.
UTubeBrowzer 1 month ago
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ronpaulforpresident0 1 month ago
@ronpaulforpresident0 awesome song definatly check it out
colinshere01 1 month ago
I cannot believe leaders are still required to believe in a little idea.
PainSurgeon 1 month ago
i love this so cool
blacksuperbeast 1 month ago
I really hope hes just putting on a show with religion to get into office. I hope hes really not religious.
ModestConfidence 1 month ago
@ModestConfidence he did introduced a bill that would require people to show they have a belief in a god to run for office. :(
noliesundead 1 month ago
@ModestConfidence Then he would be acting. People like him because he DOESNT act. Honorable right? he has never changed his stance on anything and if hes a believer in Christ and His love for us then Paul is going to have an extremely realistic and, in my eyes, superior view than that of the others. Support him no matte what. Let him live and show his character because so far it been proven and people are finally catching on.
MicahSethMusic 1 month ago
@ModestConfidence That's exactly what I hope.If he said he's not religious,his chances to be a president of US goes to zero.What he's saying about Jesus is crap because Jesus is a God himself and God loves stoning,rape,genocide,slavery and so on...Jesus didn't come to bring a peace but sword(Matthew 10,34-37).
phillozoph50 1 month ago
@phillozoph50 Quoting the bible is like quoting fox news. It makes you look stupid and it's not true.
dclaver2 1 month ago
@dclaver2 Yep,but I'm quoting bible as an unbeliever,so I can make believers look stupid:)
phillozoph50 1 month ago
whoa...an actual christian...this is amazing!
Dethreid 1 month ago
@Dethreid right haha
MicahSethMusic 1 month ago
I'm an atheist, but I'd vote for Ron Paul if I was an American.
WOOHOJEHA 1 month ago
This is a real U.S. president.
inconsp1cuous1515 1 month ago
God bless Ron Paul!
hortulanus94 1 month ago
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7micho7 1 month ago
I'll take a bullet for him!
7micho7 1 month ago
God bless Ron Paul
7micho7 1 month ago
Ron Paul plays a big game. We'll see if he can deliver now that he is up in the polls. But he's definitely a "breath of fresh air".
wolf1010 1 month ago 2
God bless him.
MrRandomppl 2 months ago
He said it. He looks to religion on how to run the country. He cites Jesus as a justification to not wage war. He didn't say that war was inherently bad for the country or that the Constitution should decide. He said he looks to Jesus and his religion tdecide.
jimjim 2 months ago
The world is coming together over Ron Paul.
Vote him in and change the world guys. It can happen.
Tehownilator 2 months ago
Fuck perry! go Obama
Ipowne3g 2 months ago
@Ipowne3g Ron Paul 2012!!!!
hortulanus94 2 months ago
@hortulanus94 fuck him, not voting for some creationist old man who does not believe in evolution.
Ipowne3g 2 months ago
@Ipowne3g another troll, go back in your cave moneky (if u believe in something fake, evolution? really? where? ha ha ha, stop being so gullible to all the media induced vomit of "evolution" what's next ? werewolves? vampires? ROTFLMAO)
valentyn0 2 months ago
@valentyn0 WAT
TheMeanSgtPlaysPiano 1 month ago
@Ipowne3g Many atheists support Ron Paul. And besides Ron Paul believes in theistic evolution (he stated it in his book 'Liberty Defined'). He doesn't support forcing any belief on anyone.
hortulanus94 2 months ago
@Ipowne3g
While I was a bit stunned upon hearing that Paul does not accept evolution, a little thinking on the manner will remind us that we don't put a President in office to be a biologist.
It is not as if Paul for teaching Creationism in schools.
A President's knowledge of biology should not be made equally important with his knowledge of politics, his foreign policy, his plan to solve the debt crisis, his wanting to bring our troops home, his wanting to end the useless war on drugs,etc.
AgApE010 2 months ago
Praise God. The true message is that while we believe He to be the only way to heaven Jesus rebuked his own disciples for wanting to attack the very guards who took Jesus into custody before his crucifixion.
ianutube22 2 months ago
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@roar5952 Jesus might not have been anything but a character in a story. But it really doesn't matter what you attribute to Jesus or any religious or historical figure. What matters is what we do. If Jesus wanted war, that doesn't mean war is better than if he didn't want war or any violence at all.
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Frottjeif 2 months ago
Bad opening. "I'm running for president for things I don't wanna do". Isn't that a bit conservative even for conservatives?
DrHowbeit 2 months ago
Aaron Copland plus ron paul = win :)
FCO0710 2 months ago
go ron
CoBInFlames91 2 months ago
Just war doctrine is not very well founded in the Bible. Jesus didn't go to war like the Jews thought the Messiah would. Jesus said "Love your enemies" "Turn the other cheek" and "Those who live by the sword die by the sword."
Fooleth 3 months ago
Ron Paul knows that the only way to the top is through Christ. --and by "to the top" I mean the the United States presidency
sexualburgerking 3 months ago
@sexualburgerking no, he believes it with his whole heart, and there isnt anything wrong with that.
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ashwadhwani 3 months ago
,ron paul is a religious nutcase,you can't trust this guy.he is also against abortion, and against taxing the rich.
tollbrand 4 months ago
@tollbrand Why would you tax the rich, so there are less jobs than there are now? I'm not religious and I'm against abortion. Half the people in this country don't have any dignity or morals anymore plain and simple.
mouse4689 4 months ago
@mouse4689 i would tax the rich to distribute the wealth...people don't have jobs anyway,it's not going to get any better if the ultra rich will pay less tax.abortion is the business of the women who decides to do it,it is not my business to tell her what to do.if you ban it it will go underground ,like it was before
tollbrand 4 months ago
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@mouse4689 Taxing the rich would definitely not decrease job creation. Taxes don't have as much of an effect as they're made out to, but if anything, they would increase jobs. The wealthy sit on trillions of dollars that aren't being circulated. If you tax that, it gets circulated into the economy and gets in the hands of the poor and middle class in the form of salaries.
1danyol1 3 months ago
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@mouse4689 "Half the people in this country don't have any dignity or morals anymore plain and simple. "
And irony of ironies, religion is in no way a requirement to exercise moral character.
"Why would you tax the rich, so there are less jobs than there are now?"
Taxing the rich has all of *nothing* to do with jobs. Rich people don't create jobs, markets do...FREE markets. Markets that are free to succeed OR fail on their own merits.
l0gically 3 months ago
Pro freedom and pro constitution and he wants to deport all immigrants and stop all abortion and end scientific funding/research?
webmastertool 4 months ago
@webmastertool
He disapproves of ILLEGAL immigrants being here, but realizes rounding up 11 million people and deporting them is pretty much not possible, so he just wants the magnets for it eliminated.
He also disapproves of abortion, but wants each state to decide whether or not to allow it, not the federal government. Same thing with research; federal funding/subsidies should not go into any kind of scientific research in his view. States can look at the science and decide on it.
Tezcatlepocatl 4 months ago
@Tezcatlepocatl eh. he's just another nutjob.
webmastertool 4 months ago
@webmastertool
Vote for someone who won't change a single thing for the better, or follow through on any promise, then. We all *still* have the freedom to vote for whomever we like.
Tezcatlepocatl 4 months ago
Religion is the most ancient of social engineering techniques.
But freedom of religious beliefs (or lack thereof) is still a freedom.
Science is our only reliable candle in the dark, but individual liberty - our freedoms - are the match that lights the candle.
KDanagger 4 months ago
Let's argue about religion.
savedfaves 4 months ago
If you honestly and TRULY believe that NOTHING created you, then doesn't that mean you don't exist ?
MichaelHGoebel 4 months ago
@MichaelHGoebel
Following that logic - if there was nothing before god, then doesn't than mean that god doesn't exist - because there was nothing to create god?
Arguments based upon potentially incomplete or circular logic are useless. If you don't yet have a rational answer - keep searching for one. Don't invent a fairly tale as an excuse to stop searching.
KDanagger 4 months ago
@KDanagger - I wasn't referring to "God" - I was referring to *whatever* is the reason behind our existence... to postulate that there is none is the bit I cannot stomach... for if there is none, then our lives have no meaning whatsoever...
MichaelHGoebel 4 months ago
Ron Paul is a christian I respect. I don't believe what he believes but he believes in the good parts of the bible and doesn't want to try to control the country with religion.
lasoogneypubes 4 months ago
A man who will never sell out the nation to war, for profit.
givebirthathome 4 months ago
If Paul gets elected I'll be happy knowing that if I write him a letter asking him to please explain to the people in more detail his interpretation of "separation of church and state," I may very well get a response. This is not a political machine held up by 500-600 people making decisions for a puppet. This is a politician and philosopher who many believed was extinct...one with ready-to-exercise opinions backed up by facts.
theatlantisrise 4 months ago
I hope... I REALLY hope that Ron Paul gets elected in 2012... However, because of the stupidity of this nation, I feel that it's far out of reach.
TheLukeSchiltz 4 months ago
@TheLukeSchiltz I can understand that pessimism, and a pessimism that he can make things much better despite his personal integrity, is I think warranted, but due to our Party system, Paul *can* get elected. Fox just broadcast that Paul may get the Republican nomination, and if he gets that, ~about 50% of the country is automatically behind him, and if his supporters work hard enough and donate, he can be elected.
givebirthathome 4 months ago
I don't know about pro-constitution, but America needs to change it's system to a multiparty, parliamentary regime. The old ways just don't seem to work these days...
CosmoShidan 4 months ago
@CosmoShidan I would love to see a multi-party system, but, in the interim, I think we need the honesty and peaceable nature Paul would bring to government.
givebirthathome 4 months ago
@givebirthathome I'd rather a tough, rigidly honest type in power. Doesn't matter what ideologue the ruler be. BTW, what's with Paul saying that all the founding fathers were Christian? Thomas Jefferson was an Epicurean; especially when Jefferson said "all are created equal" he meant that we all made out of matter with no real purpose other than to create purpose.
CosmoShidan 4 months ago
@CosmoShidan I don't know what's with Paul saying all the founding father's were Christian; they were at least "culturally Christian", and you can see for example, George Washington's Thanksgiving proclamation.
TJ had a complex philosophy, not easily assigned to today's partisan tribes. Jefferson did excerpt Jesus's sayings from the Bible and called them something like "the best philosophy known to man". In the sense of studying and following Jesus's teachings then, Jefferson was a Christian
givebirthathome 4 months ago
@CosmoShidan Here on youtube I've seen people proclaim themselves "pagan Christians" while other Christians freaked and told them they could not be pagan Christians. I guess there are Christian epicureans, too.
givebirthathome 4 months ago
@givebirthathome No. As a disciple of Epicurus, we are not Christian; either agnostic or atheist, or rather "principled atheists" whom have no interest in politics usually, reject the notion of an afterlife and believe everything is made up of atoms and void. Although there are exceptions such as Julius Cesare was a member of the philosophy.
CosmoShidan 4 months ago
@CosmoShidan By your definition then, Thomas Jefferson was not an Epicurean---lots of his letters survive, so we have some extensive knowledge of his ideas. TJ was not a Christian in the standard Trinitarian sense; he was a Unitarian. Here is a quote from one of TJ's letters describing his sense of the fundamental principles of accurate belief (which he contrasted with some common Christian beliefs of his time that he did not agree with):
givebirthathome 4 months ago
@CosmoShidan (Jefferson's religious beliefs): "1. That there is one only God, and he all perfect.
2. That there is a future state of rewards and punishments.
3. That to love God with all thy heart and thy neighbor as thyself, is the sum of religion" Here's another quote: "May the Infinite Power which rules the destinies...give them...peace and prosperity." 1st Inaugural Address 1801
givebirthathome 4 months ago
@givebirthathome Then again didn't he also say: "Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law. In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own"
CosmoShidan 4 months ago
@CosmoShidan Also I have to ask, American junior high schools teach students about other religions by any chance?
CosmoShidan 4 months ago
@CosmoShidan I don't know! However, someone can easily be a Christian and against the church. The largest denomination of colonial America (40%) was Society of Friends, and they were utterly against paid clergy. Quakerism is lead by its own adherents who don't go to seminary.
givebirthathome 4 months ago
@givebirthathome I see. There should be mandatory courses about other religions in American junior schools for that is what we are taught up here in Canada. On the other hand, I still go with the fact that TJ was Epicurean and the Founding Fathers being Deist for if America was a Christian nation then that would imply unity of church and state when the former should be separate of the latter.
CosmoShidan 4 months ago
@CosmoShidan Generally, we haven't been touching religion "with a ten-foot pole" in schools, for decades--although in certain areas, there are problems. So, no, in America, in general there is no teaching of religion--recently there have been a few pioneering efforts to have "comparative religion" courses in some places with major immigration, in order to promote tolerance.
givebirthathome 4 months ago
@givebirthathome Man, you guys are so behind. Especially since Ancient, Medieval, and Modern history are taught in college instead of grades 6-12. Such subjects should be touched upon in said grades.
CosmoShidan 4 months ago
Christian Crusades they the christians killed sooo many millions in the name of God for what? Nothing there sick murderous blood hungry psychopaths brain washed by a so called GOD! People should make mother earth/Nature there religion and pray to the planet and the animals! If this happened the world would be healthy,clean, vigorous! THere would be less social problems less wars less pedophilia!
ReggaeRising1 4 months ago
secular war fuck off
cbsthinkingofaname1 4 months ago
There is no way someone spends that much time in Washington DC and not get corrupted without religion.
deadballo 4 months ago
"Religion has lost its way" XD Religion is the worst thing to have ever happened to humanity. It never had a way, or at least violent religions like christianity and islam.
Dwaithy 4 months ago
@Dwaithy It's good to know others feel the same exact way I do about religion! ITs fucking trash garbadge for the weak minded!
ReggaeRising1 4 months ago
Amendment 1 states in part: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof....." This goes two ways..America is (supposed to be) a Republic and can't be a Theocracy. This part of Amendment 1 also allows Americans to freely practice their chosen "religion". Being Ron Paul has a 30 yr record as a strict Constitutionalist, it's not likely that he would now disregard the 1st Amendment and mandate his chosen "religion" on the nation.
neauxfool 5 months ago
I like the candidate who doesn't use God as a soundbite or for political gain. If you hear Ron Paul in debates he never brings up his Christian belief to please the crowd. I believe him when he says he is for the Constitution. That means that there will be no one religion lorded over us, and no religion will be persecuted. That's how it should be.
appalachian122 5 months ago 26
"Freedom of Religion" is not freedom from religion as so many Secularists argue, lamorte42. To deny that which shapes us and our views is a preposterous notion. Sure it shapes us, but we have to act like it doesn't? How bizarre and schizophrenic is that? Your atheism shapes your views and actions...do you need to stop telling us that your an unbeliever in the political realm or be ostracized? The 1st Amend. was to avoid a "Church of the U.S." Nothing more
toothdok50 5 months ago
Forget the music. It makes the presentation too dramatic or based on emotions. That is not Paul's way.
butterflybeatles 5 months ago
And thats where he loses me...
BOGnz 5 months ago
@BOGnz
If you got lost on the fact that he is a Christian behind his actual identity as a peacemaker...if you are so quick to dismiss someone's judgment simply based on your religious prejudice...I don't want you voting at all, bigot.
FindingEudaimonia 5 months ago
@FindingEudaimonia By that I mean thats where I don't agree with him. I have agreed with him on marijuana and that America needs to stop being the police of the world. I'd still vote for him, even if he does believe in something that seems so unbelievably ridiculous.
BOGnz 5 months ago
@BOGnz
In that case, my apologies.
FindingEudaimonia 5 months ago
There IS NO peace with a government owned by corporations and global bankers, PERPETUAL WAR is their "RACKET!" see this: watch?v=Z4lYkjQ4W5I & watch?v=6xca6o38ZNY Know who our TRUE enemies are.
WHAT does this have to do with Ron Paul? He is the only man as POTUS who will INDEPENDENTLY re-investigate the root of US current Imperialism across the globe & see that justice is served. Thus doing what is good in the eyes of THE CREATOR ! Saving the planet from the century's old BANKING DEMONS!
OurLordLennon 5 months ago
THE US FEDS have gotten away w/murder.Its FACT the CIA w/ LBJ etc murdered JFK BC he wanted interest free money for America close the Federal Reserve & CIA.Also RFK, MLK's assassination was proven in US courts w/CIA ties.The DOCUMENTED economic coups WORLDWIDE for eons & now in Afghan. Iraq, LIBYA! PROVES who owns the USA the same Rothschild "Central" bankers our founders warned of! I dont know how we'll get RP elected BC its RIGGED! AGAIN! Religion or NO! These DEMONS WITHIN must be ELIMINATED!
OurLordLennon 5 months ago
Religion OR NOT! Many Americans & THE US FED GOVT ARE ON THE HATRED OF OUR BROTHERS BANDWAGON! Research the mountains of facts as to how 911 was planned to continue the U.S. bloody global wars & ALL IS BREAD & CIRCUSES ! the many who continue to profit from giving corporations & ROTHSCHILD bankers global power, the many many murdered to shut them up on witnessing these facts. The true terrorists are the corps & banks whom OWN the US FEDS & global bloodshed & DEBT BASED BANKING is their game.
OurLordLennon 5 months ago
One of the only religious people that makes sense.
Blasfuhmee 5 months ago 40
@Blasfuhmee
Agreed.
YetAnotherInfidel 3 months ago
@Blasfuhmee What exactly is it about what Christians have been saying over and over and over again, in that Christ being for peace that doesant make sense before Ron has made the statement???. As far as i know Christians have made perfect sense for those who were willing to listen, however i grant it to you that most of their behaviour hasent warranted them being listend to.
shakinahstorm 2 months ago
@teamgreatatyugioh I don't see why it matters if they believe in God or not?
PostPetroleumPrepper 5 months ago
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argenta86 5 months ago
Man is a Religious Animal. He is the only Religious Animal. He is the only animal that has the True Religion - several of them. He is the only animal that loves his neighbor as himself and cuts his throat if his theology isn’t straight. He has made a graveyard of the globe in trying his honest best to smooth his brother’s path to happiness and heaven. – Mark Twain
mpgorilla66 5 months ago
@JBR731 I concur he has the right idea he just got there the wrong way but whatever, the point is that he has the right idea
metalisdabomb36 6 months ago
RON PAUL should know that the quote "DON´T DO UNTO OTHERS AS YOU DON´T WANT THEM TO DO UNTO YOU" was pronouced 550 b.C by CONFUCIOUS, a philosopher and politician PRO-P E A C E. So, even atheists want peace, not just x-tians, muslims, jews, etc. Hope he is not another Huckabee like bigot candidate for the US Presidency.
Racsonify 6 months ago
give me ron paul 2012, or give me death
Alkhemist10 6 months ago
What really sux is that after Ron Paul is dead, you aethiests will distort his words to convince people that he was an anti-religious aethiest just as they have done with our founding fathers.
PostPetroleumPrepper 6 months ago
@PostPetroleumPrepper what really sucks is that the only men in our country brave enough to stand for true liberty and run for office have to get that strength from somewhere else, and cannot draw it from themselves. the day we get a just athiest into office is the day our country reclaims it's title of the greatest country in the world.
teamgreatatyugioh 5 months ago
Its kinda strange that europe is the home of the christian church, but there are way more american christians then european christians.
Maybe in regards to that americans might copy to progress that way.
Many of them are agnostic or atheist.
Armigo91 6 months ago
well he's certainly no atheist, but i'll take it...
JBR731 6 months ago
@thedavid2222 Are you supporting my argument that we need to expel the monopoly of religion in our public school system? More quotes please you are furthering my argument.
PostPetroleumPrepper 6 months ago
@glessnerdawg12 can you give me 1 anti religious quote from our founding fathers please?
PostPetroleumPrepper 6 months ago
@PostPetroleumPrepper "The way to see by Faith is to shut the eye of Reason". Benjamin Franklin.
The 1796 Treaty with Tripoli states that the United States was "not in any sense founded on the Christian religion". "In every country and every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty -Thomas Jefferson. "Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise."-James Madison. There's alot more where that came from.
TheDavid2222 6 months ago
the problem is everyone is trying to get rid of God in everything, religion has a huge part in politics and should be kept in the government, religion can teach morals and values which we americans are starting lose at a fast pace...whens the last time you heard something positive on the news, all i hear is 5 year murders someone today, girl gets raped, old lady gets robbed, whatever happened to the good, you never hear...bill gates give money to charity, doctors find cure for cancer.....
toofmayn69 7 months ago
@toofmayn69 Bill gates is an atheist, LOL
TheWhocares233 6 months ago
Being an unbeliever I have a hard time seeing anything good about my government having a religious bias behind it.
lamorte42 7 months ago 30
make sure to vote for that one mornon... oh wait. nvm
ninjamonky7 7 months ago
@lamorte42 Well, atheist run governments like the old Soviet Union and the Mao years of China were great. Hey, North Korea is an atheistic run government, maybe move there! All kinds of options for ya. Christianity isn't what's wrong with this country, it's the only thing keeping it from complete and total collapse.
wienke777 4 months ago
@lamorte42 the constitution was founded as this country by God loving Christians
RF6480 3 months ago
@RF6480 Only if you buy the whitewash version of history sold to us by today's religious right wing media. The Constitution was perhaps the most important secular document ever written.
lamorte42 3 months ago
@lamorte42 troll detected, go back in ur hole.
valentyn0 2 months ago
@RF6480 BULLSHIT!
Htown75 2 months ago
@RF6480 hahahaha what? you don't know anything. none of the founding fathers were christian, save for John Jay. they actually saw christianity as a bloody religion full of ignorance. this country was founded by deists. the reason it is going down the toilet is because of the resounding number of dumb christians.
capitdan90 2 months ago
@capitdan90 another troll detected, sad one aswell, mercy on you, poor brethren.
valentyn0 2 months ago
Being a libertarian, I always hear bashing that our founders hated religion. And that really bothers me because of how factually wrong that is. They were not supersupersupersupersuper religious, but religion was obviously an influencing factor. And a problem I have is that i bet in 50 to 100 years, people will be claiming how anti-religious Ron Paul was, which is absurd. I have read multiple religious writing from Dr. Paul
glessnerdawg12 7 months ago
@glessnerdawg12 While they did not actively go against religion, they did speak against it. Especially Christianity. Most of the Founding Fathers spoke out against Christianity, most notably Thomas Jefferson. The majority of the Fathers were desist, and didn't uphold any religious dogma.
Revenwazhere 7 months ago
@Revenwazhere deist*
Revenwazhere 7 months ago
I really like Ron Paul and almost all his stances, except for the whole pro-religion thing and that he doesn't believe in evolution
Cobaltryno 8 months ago
@Cobaltryno "I really like Ron Paul and almost all his stances, except for the whole pro-religion thing and that he doesn't believe in evolution"
Except I don't believe Dr. Paul would be the kind of man who would force you to accept his religious beliefs and, as an individual who leans Libertarian, he likely would allow you to choose your own beliefs, whatever they may be.
Watcher3223 8 months ago
@Cobaltryno The beauty of Ron Paul is that he believes you have no right to impose your views on him, just as he has no right to coerce you into believing what he practices. I'm not Christian, but I couldn't care less what Paul believes in because he doesn't let his personal beliefs spill over into government dictating those habits to the people.
S0meCommonSense 7 months ago
Aman Ron Paul.
301Goldstar 9 months ago
"I strongly believe that there is a Christian doctrine of just war." -- So war can be justified if it's done the way Christianity would have it be done?
amoteofdust 9 months ago
@amoteofdust
*sigh* You really just demagogued such a simple, common sense answer. Your clearly a troll.
Jeffah5 8 months ago
@amoteofdust "So war can be justified if it's done the way Christianity would have it be done?"
No.
The point of a "Christian doctrine of just war" is that waging war only when it is absolutely necessary is a Christian virtue.
Waging war when you don't have to is not a Christian virtue and is, indeed, evil.
Watcher3223 8 months ago
Ron Paul is the only hope for America. He can truly change this country for the better. He is clearly enlightened. Ron Paul 2012. A great change is coming.
MrIsaiah722 10 months ago
May God bless in in 2012
MrVoxi25 1 year ago