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  • Boy this crud is a real loser. It will be great to see her lose her position and get sent to the back row and told to shut up!!!!

  • Are you better off today than you were two years ago? HELP A DEM VOTE THEIR ASSES OUT!

  • Barak Obama's Health Care Proposal.... Will it hurt America's citizens. . . ? American opinions must be spoken!!! Go to my you tube channel page and discover how

  • I don't believe the movie, the show, the play they put on etc. I know these democrats and republicans are shaking hands behind the scenes. there's only one party

  • 11. Obama, Won Nobel Peace Prize after 1 week in office(a true miracle) doubled deficeit, tripled spending. Both of these will double again next year.

    Do you see a pattern ? We elect idiots that tell us what we want to hear. We elect color or party or who we think will win & not the right person. It's OUR fault ! We can take our country back if we forget Rep. or Dem. Black or white. I want a statesman & patriot for pres. & I'm gonna get 1........for my grandkids. How about you ?

  • 6.Nixon could have stayed in office if it weren't for his paranoia & had the Watergate burglarized.

    7.Carter ran unemployment to double digets & % rate thru the roof. Idiot!!

    8. Reagan gave us patriotism back but increased all budgets & took credit for cuts. (look it up)

    9. Clinton was offered Bin Laden by Saudi & turned them down. 31 misc. murders. Rose Law Firm.

    10. G. Bush, the Patriot Act. More freedoms gone.

  • Just a few things to consider:

    1. Woodrow Wilsons' New Deal- Yeah, & how did that work out for Americans ?

    2. Teddy Roosevelt essentially declaring martial law selectivly.

    3. Just how much did Roosevelt know about Japans plan for Pearl ?

    4. L.B.Johnson expanded the Vietnam war knowing & even said we couldn't win it therefore sacrificing lives. He said he didn't want to be the president that lost a war.

    5. Nixon takes the country off the gold standard making our money worthless.(cont'd)

  • America is broke. Pelosi iznt gonna fix it,

  • Politics & money suck as a whole. I think this problem would have been solved if money never existed. Think about it. If no one gave a crap about money, even people who eat off the trash would crap ornaments.

    A currency would only be appropriate if there were no greedy people. Enough said.

  • Fuck you nancy!

    i guess its ok to call republicans "knuckle dragging neanderthals" and then not talk about it by using a distraction but its bad for republicans to use a distraction cause they apparently have no health care plan. i guess we republicans dont have any plan at all for health care. i hope you all know cuba has national health care and they have 1 docter to every 500 people. they ratios will only be worse with US's populations of over 300 million

  • You are much to much a pussy to talk like such big man. You are nothing but a little girl. I will tell you when to talk tough, for I am your leader. I am the only one smart enough to wake you up to the anti-government conspiracy that is at hand. Only I know what is going on. Everyone else is too stupid. Me, I am only one smart enough. Do you hear me? ME ME ME ME. I am an unrecognized genius. Just nobody else thinks so. So you will do what I say. You were born to be a sheep follower.

  • you tell 'em, Nancy ... Republican Health Care: Die Quickly

    watch?v=GGO49pf1rI8

    you tell 'em, Nancy ...

    watch?v=NJxmpTMGhU0

    Democratic dissent: Patriotic

    Republican dissent: hate mongering

    you tell 'em ... bitch ...

    'shut up and get out of the way' (Obama)

  • Republican 'lies' ... bad

    Democratic lies ... good, good, patriotic

  • How many facelifts and how many shots of botox did the cow have?!!! Seriously.

  • She's wincing from that german shepard she's been keeping at her office....

    She kneeled the day before and he finally took the bait and popped her good !!!

    Tore her ole womb is what he did...

    The pointy little bastard!

    So she's got some sore and cut things to mend down there...eeeeww...

    HOpe she got all that dog semen out with the vacuum she rammed up there after she beat the dog off...

  • bipartisan means 1 republican that represents Maine (0.5% of Americas population) and 60 Dumocrats....

  • Way to go nancy,,,,,,,

  • nancy is a whore.

    nancy knows nothing of America nor of the founding fathers and what they fought for...she is, by definition, an anti-American...she stands for ideals that True America does not.

  • Is that all you conservatives now haow to do is call names ? I would love to hear for a change you guys offer solutions of substance to any given discussion instead of rallying with offensive language and signs and all the name calling. That behaviour is not gonna make people look at your party as a party of solutions and answers.

  • Solutions...Government has NEVER provided solutions to ANYTHING.

    Get a clue...

    You want solutions?...get Governments hands off of it ENTIRELY...this will allow for competition, quality and rapid price reduction...in a matter of days.

    But no, Obama/Pelosi and crew are hellbent on telling others how to live their lives and soon, taxing us to death in an effort to spend OUR money better than US.

    Get rid of Welfare, Social Security, Medicare, Social Programs as a whole...better America.

  • After all...these Social Programs that you Progressive Liberals enjoy promoting and support are UnConstitutional...wait, nevermind...you morons think it is a "Living and Breathing Document" and "it explains what the States cannot do to you, but it doesnt say what the States MUST do for you"...uhhh, Obama, that is the point...What it doesnt say, Your ignorant ass CANNOT do...He is by far the dumbest person i have ever seen with a Law Degree; but, not his fault...thanks Public Education!!!

  • First of all yo momma is ignorant and yo papi is dumb...Second,,, when I made a comment here originally, I didn't address you or anyone else. As I forstated you punk,,,all of you concervatives always resort to name calling so that tells the world a whole lot about your intellect. Further more in your 8 yrs of control under the presidency of george bush, you had plenty of time to prove that your way was the best way and that you had all the answers but instead President Obama inherited the worst

  • mess a president could inherit in the history of this great country of our. Open your blinded eyes you and see what you and bush has done, then you got the nerve to call one of the greatest thinking presidents in recent history dumb ??? Where is your nobel prize ??? oohhhh maybe bush has it.....You stupid jerk !!!!

  • Better watch how i approach to insulting you, may be seen as "Racist"...

    I would expect a 98% of the US Popoulation African American to preach as you just did touting up Obama and putting down Bush; when in fact, you have not taken the time to educate yourself about the economic mess we are in and to educate yourself to the simple FACT that BUSH is not a Conservative...why would you think he is a Conservative? have fun trying to justify that one. Also, explain to me how BUSH left Obama (cont)

  • the "worst mess any President could inherit in history"...what portions of the economy did Bush fuck up?

    Bush's problems as President, he was the worst of my time until Obama, was the unjust War in Iraq (which Obama is still purisuing) and his massive expansion of Government and Social Programs (which Obama has done more so exponetially)....Obama has a $1.4 TRILLION deficit for this year and next year (this DOESNT include the cost of his Healthcare shit)...He has SPENT more money than..(cont)

  • EVERY PRESIDENT EVER COMBINED already, and it has only been 9 months out of 4 YEARS.

    As for the economy...thank the housing sector to Carter and Clinton and thank the Banking sector to the Woodrow Wilson/FDR for giving us the wonderful Federal Reserve and removing the Gold Standard from our monetary system...since then, the purchasing power (value) of the Dollar has gone down by over 90%...also, look into fractional reserve banking and see what you come up with before you "BLAME BUSH".(cont.)

  • word. everyone blames bush for everything. they blame him for global warming too. rediculous right?

  • Bush inherited a ticking timebomb that was caused by the Federal Reserve and has been kept afloat by the Federal Reserve in the tune changing interest rates on a whim, instead of letting the Market dictate the rates...by being a lender of last resort and bailing out banks that SHOULD have filed bankruptcy..and by having the freedom from internal audits so NOONE in America knows there dealings with foreign banks or what kind of reserves they actually hold.

    Do your research...dont "Blame Bush"

  • Actually no said anthing about racism, maybe you guys feel guilty in regards to it thats why YOU brought it up I didn't. When Bush took over we had a balanced budget left by Clinton, the stock markets were at 11000. Obama took over we had a negative unbalanced national budget and the market was in the 6000's. Obama came in on the bank bailout, that was Bush's spending. Obama had to spend money the way he has done because if nothing was done we would have sunk deep into a depression,

  • the depression will happen again no matter what.

  • which because of his actions was avoided. Now the economy is recovering but slowly and the markets are at 10000 now from 6500 in a few months. Also not to mention wars and foreign policy issues in which Obama has to make right again and put us back into a respectful position in the standings of the international community in which he's is doing. We can argue and discuss policy issues for ever like social programs, government expansions and so on but thats just what liberals and conservatives do.

  • You tell me to do my research but the fact of the matter is that out of all I know and all you know, we are gonna have our different interpretations of the facts. I do understand that because I'm a liberal and you are a conservative. Everyone feels like they are correct about all the information of events that has taken place in regards to all of this nothing wrong with that we are just different thats all but I'm not down with all that name calling and slandering....PEACE AMERICAN.

  • word.

  • your career is over you skank idiot say bye bye nancy 2010,you can retire with your billions of dollars you and your husband have stolen from the taxpayers,your buddy charlie rangel is going bye bye also nancy,we are not going to miss you, believe it or not.You criminals are all going to be gone in 2010,you have shown just how corrupt you are now that you have so much POWER,well puff its gone soon

  • How did she get to be the leader of the house?

  • her husband is very rich and powerful

  • what a piece of work. disgusting

  • Pelosi talks fluent idiocy.

  • Has anyone ever seen a more condescending human being than bella Pelosi, well, maybe Babs Ma'am Boxer. I can't watch her for more than 20 or so seconds and I simply have to look away go change the video. Whoa. Politics, especially from San FranFreeko.

  • Pelosi is the biggest liar of them all. In fact, just look in the dictionary. Look up the word liar and you will see a picture of Pelosi. I am still wiating for her to give up her wealth for Obama's redistribution of wealth as a true sign of leadership from this administration.

  • The president refused to meet with the "republicans" (8 times) to go over their plan..but he's all about "bipartisanship' in HIS government....campaign promise...lie..

    So "they have no plan" is a lie of course...Obama even admitted he borrowed from the Republicans plan in his televised congressional address on health care. We all saw it...you remember "YOU LIE"...etc..

    Grayson is a nobody, done nothing in senate needing funding...so they said do this and he did and they paid him..big woop

  • bipartisanship means liberals and democraps. we need to take our country back from the thugs and criminals like pelosi,rangel,reid,boxer,feins­tein,schumer,dodd what a group of felons and none of them doing time,2010,2010,2010

  • Sorry but the Republican party has become a white trash party. Everyone is high ( paranoid, uneducated, in-coherent) and will literally suck dick (of big lobbying companies) for money.

  • You're a complete fucking idiot... whenever the left is failing (which they're doing big-time now) they ALWAYS revert to the race card such as you're doing. You're pathetic! Nothing but hipocracy and lies ever come from these ridiculous leftists who are always so generous with other people's money!

  • hahaha. Its entrtaining to see an ignorant dumbass make defense like he knows what he is doing. This not a question of left or right. (The whole world is LEFT in that case). Because they are educated. Their kids pay $700 a year for college and dont have to work at Mc Donalds for $7 an hour.

    good. Go play beer pong, download a new app on your iphone, never think about what should happen to your community.

  • Actually sweetie, I'm gonna go make some more fun of the ridiculous leftists who INSIST on spending other people's money for leftist agendas... are ya with me? Cmon sweetie... We've got Pelosi, Boxer, Reid and a whole host of ridiculous exposed leftist fucknuts to make fun of... Are ya with me..?

    How's about that game called "Bawney Fwank".... that's the one where we listen to Ted Nugent's "Queen of the Forest" ...

    Are ya up for that?

    arghhh... probably not. :(

    be well my friend.

  • im with you on all issues that involve a dumb wit democrat. But it looks like youre not with me when I talk about people like Sarah Palin, Bill O'Rielly, Rush Limbaugh, Glen Beck, Newt gingrich, Henry Kissenger. The alfa male of these douchebags being Dick Cheney and his alfa female George Bush.

    Are you with me noww. . . .

    If you die some day you would want a letter to be sent to your family, a check to be mailed to your loved ones Thats what death panel actually meant in the health care bill

  • stupid is as stupid does. i hate nancy pelosi with all my soul.

  • she talks between her teeth...

  • First class hyocrite. Whadja pay for the necklace elite snob?

  • Incompetent

  • I never knew Pelosi was so sweet, intelligent and articulate. I never heard her speak before know.

    Gilf?

  • The bottom line and truth is that the Obama administration is a lying, manipulative and traitorous administration.

    The reason why? Because of the loons of the left! They are not only ignorant and thick brained, they are corrupt and lazy. They are parasites. They are an embarrassment to the Unites States of America and if I had one wish it would be that ALL the loons under Obama's apron be sent to Cuba or Venezula... Maybe Afghanistan so they can kiss the feet of their hero's the Taliban...

  • corkietw -- I hate to tell you, but they all are ... ALL politicians lie & manipulate to suit their purposes.

    Just consider how many of the current cabinet "served" under the previous administrations ... it crosses party lines. It's all a game to them. They congratulate each other, wink & continue to screw the people!

    Anyone who thinks voting for this person, or that party, makes a difference, is deluding himself. The best, like Evan Bayh, leave, disillusioned!

  • Legislation should be decided by knife fights in The House.

  • American politics is a fucking joke.

  • Cite a better, functioning system in a similar environment.

  • I never said others weren't a joke, I just said we have become a joke. Our politicians used to be intellectuals who understood such basic concepts as hypocrisy (like what Pelosi is demonstrating). We had scholars and theorists who brought incite and intelligence to the political realm. Name one inspiring, original, intellectual quote from the last 25 years of American politics. We're slowly diluting to the point of utter stupidity; a running circus of side-show freaks. It's just pathetic.

  • Nazi Pelosi is a dipshit relativist.

  • "This is a very important debate for the American people"-just not for us in congress...because you'll get the shit ass VA type healthcare and we in Congressget to keep our blueblood version of premium health care courtesy of the American people. I wish these bastards had to use the same healthcare they are planning on giving the pleebs. The whole debate would be drastically different.

  • Um, the VA healthcare is the best in the country. Try to take it away from our veterans and you'll see how much they like it. My question to the Repubs is, if socialized healthcare isn't good enough for the American poeple, why is it good enough for our troops?

    P.S. What congress is proposing is far closer to the type of healthcare they receive than what our veterans do.

  • lol...VA is the best healthcare?!?! What rock are you living under? Do you know any veterans receiving VA healthcare?

    The "troops" volunteered to become owned by the state. I have not. That a big difference. They have health care thrust upon them with no choice-because they gave them up when they signed on the dotted line.

    The only reason any veteran would object to taking away his VA healthcare is because he most likely has nothing to replace it with.

  • Conversely, you should ask yourself if socialized healthcare is so grand, why can't the general public get the same healthcare as the members of congress and the president? Why isn't the debate, "Let's give everyone the same health care as Congress"? Ask yourself why not. Why do our "betters" get better healthcare than everyone else? Why are they not going to be part of the same system?

  • Idiots should be able to get very important jobs.

  • conservatives are dumb as a fuck, that's pretty much a fact

  • "They (Republicans) have no plan to take us forward".

    The Democratic plan is full speed ahead. . . . . . . . . right off a cliff. FAIL!

  • Kill the Queen Bee!

  • She is a total idiot! Enough said.

    Bill

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  • Pelosi is a idiot, she represents only Satan, not america or americans , she is a self indulgent pathological LIAR. she and all democrats LIE and only think in LIES becase she and they knows americans don't like the liberal way , she dosen't believe or understand the constitution .

  • hogup250 said: "she (Pelosi) and all democrats LIE and only think in LIES becase she and they knows americans don't like the liberal way , ... she doesn't believe or understand the constitution ."

    I don't think it's a Democrat or Republican thing ... after all George W. Bush said: "The Constitution is just a God damned piece of paper". That shows  HE doesn't believe or understand the Constitution - even though he SWORE with one hand on the Bible, to "support & defend the Constitution"!

  • pelosi should apologize to the entire nation for being such an ineffective, shameful (hypocritical) DISGRACE. why she is still in public office does NOT speak well for the current administration (which, as people are increasingly becoming aware, is a complete JOKE)!!

  • If everyone agologizes, Grayson would be in back of a loooooooooooong line

  • Luv you Nancy!

    Brush your shoulders off!

  • knuckle dragging neanderthals!? republicans!? awesome! rofl!!  i love literary devices. lol

  • o my bejezuz christ. i hate that woman

  • Pelosi is still full of crap.....

  • Fucking crybabies can't stand the taste of their own medicine. Fuck off.

  • Fucking crybaby.....fuck off.

  • I'm sure there is a long list of things the republicans need to apologize for. Why don't you get busy on that?

  • I'm sorry you are an idiot.....there it's done.

  • Why do you want her to make you a sandwich? haha.

  • But they do have a plan Nancy. Any day now jesus is going to come down and tell all the evil doers that theyve been very naughty. Meanwhile back at the bunker all the conservatives will be fighting amongst themselves saying that jesus has become one of those liberal types and hes not hard enough any more. Id love to be there to see their faces. Plan B anyone?

  • god bless grayson!! finally a democrat wih the balls to say what everyone wants to say

  • The libtards set of double standards...why ask this piece of crap anything...she is the biggest liar of all.

  • the conservatards set double standards, and they lie on a regular basis

  • You poor misguided child.....obama is the biggest liar of all.

  • you ignorant old fool.. the knuckle-dragging neanderthals fucked up America at every opportunity.. only traitors support the gop

  • obama is a traitor,,,you are sthe fool to support this muslim.

  • conservatard traitors want to be the death of America, but we Americans won't allow these conservatard terrorists to succeed

  • Bullshit.

  • Wait.. youre calling conservatives terrorists ? You have a confused little mind.

  • conservatarded terrorists fail at everything.

  • Well said Madam Speaker

  • i get hard when i get money

  • what a bitch

  • Whatever, you can't get on Pelosi's case for Grayson being funny.

  • Oh Pelosi, please spare us. Not telling that guy to apologize is the biggest political risk you have taken. You are the voice of the corporate dems. You can't even be considered on the the left side of the political spectrum. No more corporate dems.

  • Pelosi has more balls than Obama. Pelosi for president 2016 !!!

  • great  necklace.

  • They SHOULD all apologize - then quit and let real people do the real business of governing - not grandstanding an posturing.

  • Mom! They're doing that mud slinging diversion thing again ! Make them stop please!

    He said, she said - - take away the microphones and the cameras - - turn off the lights - get them out of the glory spotlight! This isn't a beauty or talent contest. If it were they would all loose. This is National Business of the highest priority. Stop the bullshit ! AND yES,

  • The republicans should apologize to the American people period and so should the blue dog dems, It was wrong for them to lie to the public and scare our elderly. It was wrong for them to go against what the majority of Americans want and need.

  • accurate and precise as ever. ;-)

    cheers!

  • That would be because you don't have much of a brain.

  • don't you know all such wishes merely boomerang?

    good luck with that! ;-)

  • My goodness, you`re retarded and superstitous. Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You sick liberals will fall soon, i hope you dont think it will be ANY other way.

  • government job creation, the biggest crock of crap there is.. deficit spending comes out of this philosophy.

  • arrg i hate that old lady

  • why? because she can bury you in five words and do it politely, too?

  • What the FUCK happened to the day in 100 seconds?

  • yeah WTF!

  • 0:36 nervous laughter much, and never trust anyone who says "we where born to do this, isn't that the human bomb philosophy"

  • The Republicans should apologize to Rep. Grayson

  • nice

  • The Republicrats should make an Appearance on Wrestle Mania

  • Single Payer.... just say it Nancy! you know you want to!

  • she is so right another with back bone so now we have two woohoo

  • I don't believe either party holds themselves up to high enough standards.

  • agreed puffy

  • Except "unfunded" wars send multi-million dollar bombs to get blown up with no return to the economy. "Unfunded" healthcare invests multi-million dollars in Americans who for one reason or another are unable to get healthcare; it provides for them to get better so that they can contribute to America. I had no option in funding the needless bombing of brown children, the money for it just comes out of my paycheck. Personally, I prefer to instead have it taken out to support Americans. Patriotic!

  • But the facts are that no matter who is in the control of the white house we will always drop bombs. The military machine is way to big in this country and until the American people have had enough it will stay big. I'm all for healthcare for everyone but we need to cut senseless wars first. We can't keep letting gov't spend our money without cutting back first. It's time to put major pressure on withdrawing troops. First things first.

  • That's true...except the public option the US is proposing is not 'unfunded' it's non-profit and paid for by premiums. And everyone should acknowledge that it is conservatives that don't fund these things, or defund them when they are in power. it's an actually documented conservative strategy to bankrupt governments as an excuse to privatize it. That's what you get when you put people in charge of thing they are ideologically opposed to.

  • Great words.

  • Nobody in the US Congress is proposing adopting the Canadian model; NOBODY!

    Nobody is proposing "unfunded" government health care, either.

    Either stop beating stray dogs and discuss real proposals or resolve that you are just blowing hot air up each others skirts, girls.

  • boots920,

    I'm a Canadian and have never received anything but the best care. I'm not sure what part of our health care system you're refering to when you compare it to a ponzi scam, but at least in Canada, no one is getting rich by denying people health care.

  • Sure investors were getting 15% return on their money before they found out Bernie was just a scam artist.

    Canadian system working for now in the near future not so sure. The government isn't being realistic on costs. They're not keeping up they need to either charge more, or give it to the private sector.

    The Canadian government won't even tax the people to pay for the sandbox war ? How much crude are they covering up with the medical system costs?

  • I know Canadians, French, Germans, Japanese; I work with them, and all of them are laughing at your comments and at the general stupidity of the American lower class duped into voting for rich white men who share not their interests. All the world major civilized industrial powers provide socialized healthcare for their citizens. Its the humane thing to do. Its what Jesus would do.

  • Its a good idea but if you don't fund it right and be realistic in costs it will end.

    The government is incapable of running any social system.

    I'm just being realistic the only reason why the american system didn't work is because the government didn't enforce contract law.

    There's no such thing as "Free" .

    Jesus wouldn't offer free untested flu shots ...

  • even more retarded than usual of u boobs I mean really - talk about being a troll for trolls sake u got nothing gov't gets many things right NationalDefense! SocialSecurity! FDA! (food/drug safety) Internet! Interstates! Protect Bill of Rights! NASA! CDC! DMV! FAA! (air safety) Post Office! (across country for $0.40!) Military Retirement! (punctual/accurate) Education!/SchoolLunches! SoilConservationService! Medicare/Medicaid! Libraries! National Parks&Preserves! and soon - HEALTH INSURANCE! :-)
  • Although Healthcare needs reform and maybe a public option would be part of that I think its silly to list of bunch of bankrupt programs to try to make your point.

  • people are still recieving those services, so they are evidently not bankrupt. deficit is not bankruptcy, and those programs would be much more solvent if we hadn't engaged in the retarded Iraq War, among others.

    Those programs will be salvaged, and will continue.

    peace ;-)

  • You are very correct baron! Estimates show that by the time that the Iraq war is all said and done, that little cluster fuck will have cost us and our Grandchildren 3 TRILLION dollars, (not to mention the mass murder or 4,500 of our soldiers and thousands of innocent Iraqi's!) But to insure everyone in America at $900 Billion in 10 years? Oh fuck no!

  • tax revenue is drying up while the costs of these programs continue to rise exponentially. which part of that has anything to do with iraq?

    <3,

    can't-blame-everything-wrong-w­ith-government-on-bush-anymore

  • National Defense - Missing 2.3 trillion , Fighting useless wars in sandboxes

    FDA - Total joke

    Post Office - operates in the red

    Education - 40 million Americans are illiterate , no moron left behind

    Medicare - Bankrupt

    Military Retirement - 250, 000 vets sleep on the street

    Protect Bill of Rights - Patriot Acts 1 and 2 total garbage

    Health Insurance - kinda stupid when the states is committing genocide in Iraq

  • Just remember who broke our government and sabotaged all the good functioning departments... it was the disciples of Nixon-Reagan including the whole Bush family and friends.

  • I know Nixon was a war criminal crook, traitor, idiot so why did Ford pardon him. Its ridiculous ...but Ford was also on the warren commission. Nixon knew Jack Ruby like its one big happy family.

  • the ? is not, do those programs get everything right all the time. the ? is, where would we be without them. the answer: far, far worse off.

    most people know this, despite a vocal retarded minority, of which ur an exemplar.

    good programs w some problems can be refined, & priorites reallocated according to fiscally sound triage. we are talking in some cases about the prevention of death & suffering. if the bleeding is not being staunched effectively, the appropriate response is not "let it bleed"

  • "let it bleed" yea wave the flag as the US turns into a 3rd world dung heap.

    The states won't recover from all this bull crap...

  • which state do you live in again?

  • Planet Earth, I 'm taking yoga lessons so I can kiss my ass good-bye.

    Main Debate in USA - Healthcare

    Main Debate in China - Buy as much gold and silver as possible because the US dollar is going to 0

    Main Debate in Iraq - Gee what's with all the dead people

  • I'm just curious, Boots. Did you speak up when Bush was president? I'm not saying you're a Republican, its just that so many Americans have come out of the woodwork because of Obama. Why the fuck didn't they speak up when Bush was running the country into the ground? Don't they know what he did to your country? Are they actually trying to pin it on Obama? Fucking right they are!! And they love watching him fail. How pathetic.

  • Dam rights Bush is a War Criminal there's an entire book on how to prosecute the "War Criminal".

    How long have the Democrudes had to cut off funding for the sandbox wars ? Its a total sham the hamster taxpayers do nothing.

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  • government programs have a plethora of problems.

    i am not going to blame any government agency specifically -- i think many of the problems started with the neo-con generation and the "me no pay tax because govt bad and me greedy piggy" mentality. Calif. prop 13 -- classic. Now govt services are in disarray and underfunded.

  • Let us see, in Californa a janitor who works for BART (government agency) makes $75,000+ a year.  Maybe stupid spending like this is why California is in trouble

  • why is THAT such an issue when ceo's of insurance companies are raking in hundreds of millions of dollars? now THAT's stupid spending on healthcare!

  • ho2cultcha - I got an idea, if all these CEOs are making all kinds of big money, why don't you try to become a CEO instead of whining about CEO pay? It must be an easy to do job.

    Most of the CEOs are are self made people who worked their way up through a company by hard work and not pissing and moaning abouyt how unfair the world is

  • i bet its extremely hard to be a CEO i mean if you do a good job you get rewarded and when you do a bad job you still earn millions of dollars (golden parachute) even when the company goes bankrupt and hundreds if not thousands lose their jobs because of it.... poor CEOs they really got it bad...

  • so you can defend a ceo who is making hundreds of millions, by saying s/he worked hard for it, but you say that a janitor who is being paid 75g/yr is a waste of money?!!?

    i say you are a waste of space, food and air.

    [and i do pretty well for myself by working hard too, and i try not to be greedy]

  • Lets see the market established the price for the CEO and stockholders paid for it. The people who agreed to the wages paid for it

    Unions bribed government officials for the union janitor and regressive sales taxes stolen from the working poor paid for the wages. The people that paid the wages had no say. Kind of like feudalism huh.

  • oh! now i get it! working class people are corrupt and rich people go to heaven. thank you for enlightening me, you piece of shit!

  • What surprises me most about your comment is that I have heard them before. Hitler spoke the same word about greed and bankers and the need to take their property away.

  • geez stanley! the things you pull from your asshole are really amazing. reach in a little further and you'll pull out a hard little pea - that's your brain.

  • wow.. hitler ate food.. and Obama eats food. gee, the similarities are amazing. I've heard they both breath oxygen as well.

    you're a fucking idiot.

  • omg -- would you call a BART janitor and put that to bed. grow up and get something of substance to argue. your talking points are stupid.

  • "american system didn't work is because the government didn't enforce contract law."

    just remember who let the corporate contractors run wild.... it was the deregulating republicans over the past 30 years

  • exactamundo! ;-)

  • I know the government allowed all this bull crap to happen.

    Like who complained when Nixon ended the gold backing of the US dollar ?

    The morons that caused the crisis now want to fix it, personally I don't believe you can fix the damage that has been done to the states in the last hundred years.

  • Bretton Woods was a pretty amazing thing.  After FDR declared himself emperor it should have worked -- if we had any other president that could fill his shoes. then we went and got stuck in vietnam -- why we didn't just end the dirty little war instead i don't know. Nixon had to do something. The neo-con war machine isn't exactly concerned with economics -- please see iraq and afghanistan if you need more proof. Theres some sage advice about pride and falls that seems to fit here.

  • This time there's not gold standard to sacrifice like pretty insane using Fiat money as world reserve.

    Impossible to save in fiat pretty simple concept so how come ALL world leaders didn't put their hand up in 1971 ?

    I mean all fiat money ends what did they expect would happen in 40 years ?

  • FDR had Europe wrapped around his finger after ww2. It cost them just about everything. They basically became subjugates and France broke first thanks to Nixon being an idiot.

    The idea of the euro was to make super-fiat. It worked for a couple years.

    If you haven't read Gore Vidal you might want to consider it -- the last empire, imperial america, perpetual war for perpetual peace, and dreaming war are some of the most pressing accounts of united states history in the last 70 yrs.

  • i think you are hung up on fiat -- in fact we have moved past fiat to credit. we use cards to buy everything -- paper isn't even involved. what could be crazier than pretending paper is worth something? now you know. everything is numbers traded by computers

    a huge chunk of the world is kind of angry at the united states right now -- we traded trillions of bad debt for goods. a joke only an economist would laugh at -- with china we traded bad debt for toxic toys.

  • All I know when they change the system if you have your wealth in US dollar it will become worthless or severely devalued.

    That's why the chinese government is telling their citizens to buy as much silver as they can. They're about to dump the trillion US on the open market.

  • From what I've read, the Canadian system costs $180bln / year.Imagine if the trillion+ that has gone so Republicans can play with and murder other people's children in the sand would have instead gone towards improving health care and education in the United States.True investment in the future of America.But that would be patriotic, and conservatives are against investing in Americans.Theyre for profits profits profits, and that means moving the jobs to China and less benefits for Americans.

  • In Canada we spend less then half of what American do on heath care per capita and we're all covered for our entire lives guarenteed. The problem with our system is that it's underfunded, conservative refuse to fund social programs properly and then accuse them of being inefficient. Yet we get far more for our money then the Private sector could ever provide. The hypocrisy of those who expect social service to work but refuse to pay for them is astounding.

  • "Governments are too inefficient to run social welfare programs."

    Then they better shut down every government program including public schools, fire stations, public transportation systems, etc.

  • Armed Forces.

  • the goverment dosnt run the armed forces, it soldiers, NOT politicans

  • The soldiers do, the generals command, the government runs the budget.

    My point was it's not privatized and would certainly not be improved through privatization.

    Congress (in theory) decides when we use the armed forces, budget hikes or cuts, etc.

    I absolutely never meant to say that politicians are on the battlefield, that would be silly. I have no idea where you saw that.