The concepts of Satan and God only have power because people give those ideas life and humans have a tendency to try to fit things in tidy little boxes so they can understand them often confusing themselves.
@DerArschloch667 i will pray for you my friend that you will turn from your wicked ways and realize that you are so very wrong. God loves you even though you blaspheme His name. Repent for your sins or you will burn for ETERNITY with your buddy satan!
I hate bible thumping people that think they know so much about God! What do you know and who are you to say that I'm going to heaven or hell , heck you might go to the same place I'm going without realizing it six feet under ground!
@deviousdan001 there must be 50%evil and 50% good,that is the only way to have perfect harmony between the two forces. Everything has both yin and yang aspects as light cannot exist without darkness and vice-versa
@ndzoko o, the arrogance. You must 16. You're just an ant my friend, god doesn't give a fuck about you, if you don't believe in him, he doesn't care. He's laughing at you, toying with you and all atheists like you because you're actually so foolish as to think you're the smartest beings in the Universe, but his IQ's 1000 000 and he's just laughing at the caricature's of himself, way off. It's your loss, not his.
@12Ominous He is less than an ant to me. He doesn`t exist, unless evidence to the contrary. The feelings are mutual, I don`t care about him either. If he likes me, if he wants me to believe, he can at least show me his face.
Clearly the earliest purest incarnation of Satan in the old testament isn't simply Satan in Job. It's also the serpent in Genesis. Even the angel Satan in Job is diametrically opposed to God in his ideology and morality, providing evidence that Satan is actually quite evil. Being the lord of lies it's quite easy for Lucifer to pretend to be any number of polytheistic 'gods'.
Please Christians stop calling Satan as an ANGEL. This is not true, even though its mentioned in Bible as an Angel. Infact Bible was Modified by those Satanic Pops in early history that's why you Christians have many many different Bibles. In Quran the Final BOOK of GOD, it is mentioned that SATAN was a creature created from Fire and just like Humans have will power to do anything, Satan had also the same Will power to do either agree or disagree to GOD's commands. Angels only worship ALLAH
@jockolong please donot mind if i tell you the truth. I can answer almost any of your question. No Sir ISLAM says killing of 1 human is equal to murder of all Humanity, In ISLAM its forbidden to kill someone whether its Jew or Christian or whatever. Whoever does the killing is certainly not one of us.
Don't you see who is killing who? who invented Bombs, who created Missile, who invented the Gun who created Atomic bombs. All the Shit is coming from your side.but still you blame us
@mrbogusthegreat ok,i am not open to argumentation on which side is more right or not, but i am open to more information in w/c i am not completely knowledgeable, but basing on the fact, what we saw on d news are proof that terrorists r of islamic in origin, muslim, etc. so we concluded that they, somehow r the roots of all this criminal actions like bombing, killing thousands of innocent people,beheading,kidnapping,etc..so what r they?
@BrightStaroftheDawn If this a myth... why do you even bother to learn more about him? Hypocrite!! God must be tapping into your mind to realize your bigotry.
In Islam the devil is not an angel but rather he is a different being that is made from fire known as jinn.the devil aim in this life is to divert people from the oneness of God and to bring many people into hellfire with him and that's because he blames the children of Adam from being kicked out of heaven. He has no power or dominion over hell but rather it is God who has power and punishes whomsoever he will. the gatekeeper of hell fire is in fact the angel of hellfire known as Malik.
In all this game, the devil is losing and at the end will be accused of everything because GOD don’t want any rivals. Conclusion: live at the full in the freedom of GOD (praying in a right form, following the INSTRUCTIONS in the Bible - keeping the 10 commandments - including keeping the Saturday as the 7th day etc.) instead of in the incapacity and limited power of devil because he is just a temporary puppet. Jesus Christ is our savior and our hope!
his job is to kill you destroy you tricking you into his ways god wants peace for you and love..love greater then anything love you think youve had without him. ofc that's if you ecept him in his life. and devil.. how tricky and smart he is he owns most of the evil in this world.
it is sayed in the bible that God's recent angels that decided to rebel against God (cause he thought he knew and thought that he could do things better than God), when they joined forces with satan they fought against God's angels and lost.... now the followers of satan (the angels that joined him) are in the deepest parts of hell locked in chains and tormented day and night nonstop forever with no rest, thats the real story from the bible
Mistake: Hades ruled Tarteris, not hades. "Hell" was called Hades after people stopped calling the "god" Hades and changed the name to Devil/Satan etc.
@baalisgod666 Really, because I've actually studied a lot about ancient forms of paganism, with a particular interest in Greek and Roman. Lucifer being a Latin name meaning "light-bringer." Which is also funny, He was identified as the brightest star on the horizon just before the sun rose, Lucifer also sometimes being called the herald of the sun. The star was dubbed Lucifer by Romans and later identified as the planet Venus, which was also known as the morning and evening star.
@baalisgod666 I think most people don't know that the Jews, Greeks and Romans all had a go at changing things. The real church died with Jesus and then his brother James.
The early christians were split. (read the dead sea scrolls). One half called themselves the "bringers of light" or "Priests of light", while they called the others "ones of darkness". Unfortunately, the "dark ones" won. Bringer of light (translates as "Lucifer") were put into disrepute.
Jesus was called "bringer of light" while he lived. Stupid Americans have been lied to for years by illegitimate churches like mormons etc.
i've heard that when many people have the same resemblance of thoughts like: satan, aliens,... they become reality... the thoughts become reality, likr in south park: fantasy country.
weird, but it's more logical this theory than the bible.
bilions of planets like the earth, with advanced evoulution like ours. so why would Satan be on our planet? what makes us so special? think about it.
@terravires2 well we were made in the image of god. and if aliens were real with i do belive exists, there not close to god they come here because they want to know why we are more beautiful then they are and why we are close to god. plus we arent special for having satan he is evil
guy wants to say since i was a satanist an now ive seen the TRUTH and christian. he asks when am i gonna be muslim? well smart ass here ya go. the bible teaches an we all know satans a coward who feeds lies into our heads. jesus says "i am the truth and the light. nobody comes to the father but by me" so ANYTHING else is false doctrines and works of the devil. so no im not gonna be a nasty muslim. i told u ive turned away from the forces of evil.
Its Been So Many Talk About Satan AKA The Judge. God Maybe The Knig Of Kings But I Bow Down To No Man Ever Since God Killed My Father. Myslef The Defector Of Christianity
I Cant Never Forgive What The Church Of God Did To Me The Way The Fallen Angel Lucifer
But Satan Was There And Told Me Im the Judge Loyal Servant Of God I Was Betrayed By The Church. God I Can Never Forgive For Murder
I don't think Lucifer mean't to defy God. He was just jealous that God created man and asked the angels to bow down to man. Lucifer felt superior and refused. I don't believe he knew his punishment would be so swift. I think Lucifer loves God but despises mankind. He's jealous.
Question is what will happen with illogic believers ( PORNO CHRISTIAN THE HUMAN WORSHIPER AND PAGAN HINDU) and evil atheist?
(1) they may Go to hell for ever.
(2) God can destroy their soul for ever= (Qur'an 45:27) "on the Day when the Hour rises, who follow falsehood will be lost."
(3) or God may reject their soul and they will find themselves inside the Collapsing universe =“Then fear the Fire, whose fuel is men and stones, prepared for the disbelievers.” (Quran 2:24)
read the bible you will get the answers there. Unfortunately you have to seek after that, but if you wholeheartedly do it, maybe God will help you get the anwers, for everything!!
I was taught at school that St Lucifer thought he was better than God,and God cast him out,and made a place for him and all his angels. That place was Hell.
@weazz st lucifer has nothing to do with lucifer aka the devil. its latin, meaning light bearer. the name is merely a latin reference to venus before dawn.
Satan can NOT be a angle because angels are made of light and Satan said hem self "I am better than Adam ,iam made of fire and he of clay "Satan said he is made of fire and angels are NOT made of fire .
So this with that Satan is an "fallen angel" is not correct.
@jasonthemankiller isnt that the muslim interpretation of satan, of Iblis. Satan is always an angel; because satan is the angel chosen by god to be the accuser, to test the faith of gods believers. So god grants an angel the task of being a satan, in some stories that angel chosen to execute the job that is satan is called lucifer.
you said angels are made of light, and not of fire which is a very confusing statement. I would easily argue that the Sun is made of light seeing as it is the only source of light(and stars) our planet has ever had and it is made of fire. Fire has always been our source of light there is no other source until technological advancements provided them, but even today all light produces heat. God appeared to Moses as a burning bush, which represents the light of God and fire.
Bible also says God casts a third of the stars out of heaven, which is commonly thought to be a reference to Satan and the Angels he converted to disobey God. This statement supports that statement made by Satan that he is made of fire which would inherently make him made of light as fire is the only source of light our universe has.
god made satan so he could be the bad guy for 6000 years...satans going to rule the world..then gods going to save the day..the problem i have with that is...whos to say that god that comes from the sky isnt just another being like lucifer who just set it all up so he could look like the saviour..when in reality hes just another thing who wants to rule the world and be the most high by letting satan rule and do bad things for along time so that he can save the day
So this first thing you hear is that "Satan" is the accussor in the Hebrew Bible (stumbling block); aren't all these lame comments interesting in light of that initial definition?
It always surprises me how well educated theological professors can quote the chapter and verse by heart of the bible but are as blind as hell to explain the spirit in which they are meant.
I found a whole story made out of Watermarks on Our Planet using Google Earth and I found them in something else to. I just posted my latest video- I found pictures of God! I've put the story together and made a video of it to share with you. When your finished tell someone what you saw this day !! He Lives ! Come see my Channel and look at the Amazing things I've found ! I even found the Garden of Eden - come see !!
if it was true you had to take sides, why if you lived your life ull of sin would you be tortured in hell? wouldn't the demons and satan like you for defying god????
@basildonboi18 The punishment of hell, In the end, Is to punish the devil and his demons, So dont think they will all be living the life of it down there.
@basildonboi18 i used to be a satanist. now im a christian! first of all satan and his cowardly demons dont like or love anything! and satan an his demons cant cast u into hell or heaven. the biook of luke says "fear he that haveth the power to cast you into hell" meaning only god has the power
@basildonboi18 maybe they would I just think churches try to scare us into thinking we will be torutrued so we don't sin so all I can say is WORSHIP SATAN
@basildonboi18 They partially like you for sinning...But since human IS the exact appearance of God(like two legs noses etc), they will torment you no matter what...
@basildonboi18 No one knows what God looks like. God is our Heavenly Father who is the only perfect being- and he controls all events throughout time.
Satan,he isn't ugly....he isn't in Red color,he doesn't have horns....Satan is beautiful as gods angel....Allah created him very very beautiful that your eyes haven't see a person like Satan...but he's Evil...He tries to prove god that he can control us! Allah will win...The victory belongs to Allah... why is Satan Beautiful? because he's Allah's Angel...
(I’ve studied the “world’s” Osiris! What the hell are you talking about? FACT: Egyptians believed in the divinity of Osiris. FACT: Biblical stories are copied almost word for word from the more ancient Egyptian stories of divinity. Need I give you examples? Go to Egypt and see for yourself your stupid dork.)
(Oh please, stop with your religious garbage. I’ve studied religion and was very religious – CHRISTIAN – for many years until I saw for myself the more ancient history of Egypt. This Satan story is loosely based on actual human history as the original son of God – the blacks – have been usurped from their throne by their diabolical derivatives. This story is repeated many times in the bible. )
Fact is, the whole biblical tradition was STOLEN from the holy Egyptian texts. Nowadays, dummies, like you, claim that they were EVIL, or Barbaric, or Pagan, not knowing from whence their whole believe structure originated. By the way, I've study Egypt specifically for 10 years now. But don't want to toot my horn. Don't believe me, look up online Immaculate conception and Isis. Look up Osiris and Set (which later became SET-AN or Satan, Set the most high). Time to eat. :-)
SET, his evil brother, killed him and cut him into pieces (sounds like the Cain and Able story, but much older), and then Isis reconstructed his body except his penis, which was eaten by an alligator, and wanting to conceive, she had intercourse with a penis-less Osiris by flapping her wings over him until she was IMMACULATELY impregnated (Mary and Jesus story). Osiris ROSE on the 3rd day (like Jesus story) to ascend into heaven. Any amateur Egyptologist can tell you this
Your whole series of discussions are absolutely ridiculous. A) I never told you what I believe in. B) Who cares about Mormons (I ain't one), C) We're talking about Osiris, and you start talking about Alien abduction. LOL!! Admit it, you've no clue. But don't take my word for it, just go to Egypt and see for yourself. The story is on their walls. Osiris represented one of their HOLY trinity, (he was the Father), Isis the Mother, and Horus the Son. YOur a nube.
What does he being god of the dead, which I just said he was as he sat in judgement of the dead, and weighed them with a feather to see if their soul was light enough to ascend into heaven, have to do with him being evil? You still haven't answered the question. The Christian god performed the same function. Secondly, have you ever been to Egypt? Thirdly, he was NOT considered evil by Egyptians. His evil brother Set (who murdered him) was. Sounds like you're a neophyte.
Well Osiris sat in Judgement of the dead, and banished one to hell or to heaven depending on whether your soul was light as a feather. This is represented all over the Egyptian pyramid motifs. Not sure if your insinuation of him being evil is true. Thanks....
if you religious people still keep on beliving in those fairy tales in the bible i feel sorry for you. this video is proof enough that what you belive in is all lies. they obviously took the persians religion and greeks belives and turn it into a new religion and created a bible full of stolen religions. they also stole the sumerians accounts and simply changed names of characters. how can you people be so gulible to religion in 2011? theres no excuse for being that guilible in the age computers
@211bkmob see if you dont like our beliefs then why do you try to mock us? no-one here cares about your opinion seriously they dont, so do us a favour and let us believe what we want, it has nothing to do with you ok?
@Aidenrockz09 hahah,no body cares about my opinion? but then you turn around and reply to my comment? that makes sense? and exactly what was my opinion? what i said are all FACTS not opinions.
and exactly how did i mocked people? you religious people are the ones that mock people that belive in aliens or have a diffrent religion. and then you insult us by shoving you christian belives down our throats when we already have diffrent belives. christianity is just a CULT but you people are BLIND
@211bkmob FACTS? and where do you find these facts exactly, i dont see these facts i see a ignorant one sided view. Also why do you come onto a religous video if you dont believe where is the sense in that maybe someone is shoving THEIR opinions down our throat just like hippocritical one sided idiots, if you dont believe then fair enough that is YOUR view but we do and its causing no one harm so do us all a favor and let us believe what we want and we will do vice versa ok?
@Aidenrockz09 well your definitly blind and havent done your research. go research the ancient text's,go research the sumerian cuniform clay tablets. everything this guy said in this video could be researched.but of course you people dont do it cause is goin to conflict with your brainwashed bealeifs.and this is not a damn religious video.and nobody is shoving their opinions down your throat. you decided to watch the video. you people constanly shoved your beleifs down our throats.
Again the view of Satan they depict is not quite on par with modern Christianity. For modern Christians rather it's a a ploy to defeat God or just out of spite and jealousy. Satan does not punish sinners or win souls. They will be punished with him and he wants to drag as many down with him as possible. It's the ultimate "misery loves company."
In modern Christianity Satan still doesn't reside in hell. Hell isn't occupied at all until after the Thousand Year Kingdom ( what God's thousand year reign on earth is referred to as). He still can come as an angle of light because he is still the most beautiful creature God ever created. The horns and tail and stuff come out of a tradition to poke at his vanity. Also a second tradition of using visual representation to depict the internal nature of a being.
@joshlazarus Well none of us will escape death. That you can be certain of. So look at the bright side. When each of our time comes and our heart stops beating, it'll be time for a rude awaking. I'll keep you in prayer.
The earth we stand on is proof enough for me that it was created, without going into detail. Just saying :)
@joshlazarus There isn`t a shred of evidence for all that stuff. The longer a religion lastst the more junk is added. Christianity in the course of it`s history added, what is now considered essential tenets of their religion. E,g, the concept of the Trinity, of" the virgin birth",of " the immortal soul" are all later add-on`s.. If believers like it or not, their religion evolves. That is one more reason no religion`can be true.
@ndzoko Does anybody ever listen to what thier watching? It states in the beginning that the concept of the devil as we know it today, being evil. Did not exist originally and was a construct of different religions and ideologies formed over time. What are people not able to hear/understand? it is plain English!
Don`t question god ?Witches, kill them. Homosexuals, kill them.fortunetellers, kill them. those who don`t listen to priests, kill them. those hitting their dad, kill them. those who curse their parents, kill them, adulterers, kill them. fornicators, kill them. people who believe in other religions, kill them. non-believers,kill them. fals prohets ,kill them. blasphemers, kill them. those who work on the Sabbath, kill them. This is the word of god !!
@MrUberSpanky : I assume that`s the only word in YOUR cocabulary,. I am just proclaiming the word of the lord. Maybe you don`t agree, that`s your problem.
WHY WHY WHY!!!???? Did they turn this into a Political Documentary????? IT WAS SO GOOD UNTIL 6:42. I am not going to watch the rest of this. British media seems to think England is HOLY and U.S. is so evil. Dude We are the same EVIL. Why ??!! You were so close to making a good Documentary. Then you put your Agenda on at he very end. I was even Going to let the stupid heavy metal music slide. Not now I give you a FAIL score. BOOOOOOO!!!!
hinduism prdates both cristianity and islam and it has the concept of demons and angels fighting for the ownership of heaven! so could it be hinduism influenced the stories of satan?
@Indiaexpress Every known religion has taken ideas from previously existing religions. They add their own ideosynchrasies , and voila, there you have it. A new religion.
Already screwing it up. The old testament IS where we find Satan the devil. If you can't do it right you shouldn't do it at all. I question who's behind this production.
If Satan was an angel then how cud he become the devil when angel dont have free will, they only obey God. And God dont look like Gandalf or any human figure, he created infinity and eternal and the universes...how can we think he ran out of creativity.
If you want to look into the Devil history aka Iblis one should check out Islamic perspective, it wud make alot more sense logically...
there are no satanists except for some bored teens and guys who think they can get young girls if they can convince them the satan worship is cool. no ones really a satanist. once you figure out its nonsense, u just quit the whole thing.
but where does bushes story begin? How did he become the prince of darkness? I mean how did cheiney become the lord of darkness? Bush is like Darth Vader and Cheiney like the emperor. Cheiney is all powerful evil and bush is the evil enforcer who makes stupid choices.
looooserfer...
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DeusVeritasEst 1 day ago
Hectic stuff!!
SiyaCirocBoyTV 4 days ago
The concepts of Satan and God only have power because people give those ideas life and humans have a tendency to try to fit things in tidy little boxes so they can understand them often confusing themselves.
Hail Satan btw
DerArschloch667 2 weeks ago
@DerArschloch667 Good luck buddy..hehe..
RedBayDog 1 week ago
@DerArschloch667 i will pray for you my friend that you will turn from your wicked ways and realize that you are so very wrong. God loves you even though you blaspheme His name. Repent for your sins or you will burn for ETERNITY with your buddy satan!
Redirocks 1 week ago
I hate bible thumping people that think they know so much about God! What do you know and who are you to say that I'm going to heaven or hell , heck you might go to the same place I'm going without realizing it six feet under ground!
deviousdan001 4 days ago
@deviousdan001 what do you know??? lol
mydnytmover 3 days ago
@Redirocks Hahahah Satan. If you come across him send him to me. I want to know where that place " hell " is, for touristic purposes.
ndzoko 3 days ago
@DerArschloch667 are u really that slow?
mydnytmover 3 days ago
Why does satan have all this power? why doesnt God just vanish evil, wat a crock of a story.
deviousdan001 2 weeks ago
@deviousdan001 there must be 50%evil and 50% good,that is the only way to have perfect harmony between the two forces. Everything has both yin and yang aspects as light cannot exist without darkness and vice-versa
Redirocks 1 week ago
@deviousdan001 the bible says he will destroy satan forever and the wicked.
rapemadrid5to0 4 days ago
@rapemadrid5to0 What the bible says is irrelevant, untill you prove the bible to be a reliable historical document. It is not.
ndzoko 3 days ago
@ndzoko thats why you will never understand it,,, if your to lazy to look for the truth God is not going to do it for you
mydnytmover 3 days ago
@mydnytmover If god is too lazy to look for me, that`s his probleem. ll I need is one piece of evidence for the salvation story.
ndzoko 3 days ago
@ndzoko o, the arrogance. You must 16. You're just an ant my friend, god doesn't give a fuck about you, if you don't believe in him, he doesn't care. He's laughing at you, toying with you and all atheists like you because you're actually so foolish as to think you're the smartest beings in the Universe, but his IQ's 1000 000 and he's just laughing at the caricature's of himself, way off. It's your loss, not his.
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@12Ominous He is less than an ant to me. He doesn`t exist, unless evidence to the contrary. The feelings are mutual, I don`t care about him either. If he likes me, if he wants me to believe, he can at least show me his face.
ndzoko 2 days ago
How do you spell the name of the religious teacher at 05:12? Zora Astra?
endlife2k2 3 weeks ago
@endlife2k2 I think is something like Zarathus. Not entirely sure, though
1989jolle 2 weeks ago
@endlife2k2 Zoroaster. (Also called Zarathustra in some English and German sources.)
ideogramme 1 week ago
Clearly the earliest purest incarnation of Satan in the old testament isn't simply Satan in Job. It's also the serpent in Genesis. Even the angel Satan in Job is diametrically opposed to God in his ideology and morality, providing evidence that Satan is actually quite evil. Being the lord of lies it's quite easy for Lucifer to pretend to be any number of polytheistic 'gods'.
timewarlord 3 weeks ago
can someone tell me the song at 6:00
narutoedv33 3 weeks ago
Satan is literally fucked, he headed straight for hell, its so ridiculous its funny as hell!!!
emporroll 4 weeks ago
I believe in satan disprove him if im wrong
emporroll 4 weeks ago
@emporroll Not up to us to disprove him. That will be done when Jesus returns.
keliciousify 3 weeks ago
why dose it look like the lips are not saying the words that are said?
gaudio16625r 1 month ago
Please Christians stop calling Satan as an ANGEL. This is not true, even though its mentioned in Bible as an Angel. Infact Bible was Modified by those Satanic Pops in early history that's why you Christians have many many different Bibles. In Quran the Final BOOK of GOD, it is mentioned that SATAN was a creature created from Fire and just like Humans have will power to do anything, Satan had also the same Will power to do either agree or disagree to GOD's commands. Angels only worship ALLAH
mrbogusthegreat 1 month ago
@mrbogusthegreat islam was actually created by belzebob..to twist the truth and brain washed the people to kill the infidels
jockolong 1 month ago
@jockolong please donot mind if i tell you the truth. I can answer almost any of your question. No Sir ISLAM says killing of 1 human is equal to murder of all Humanity, In ISLAM its forbidden to kill someone whether its Jew or Christian or whatever. Whoever does the killing is certainly not one of us.
Don't you see who is killing who? who invented Bombs, who created Missile, who invented the Gun who created Atomic bombs. All the Shit is coming from your side.but still you blame us
mrbogusthegreat 1 month ago
@mrbogusthegreat ok,i am not open to argumentation on which side is more right or not, but i am open to more information in w/c i am not completely knowledgeable, but basing on the fact, what we saw on d news are proof that terrorists r of islamic in origin, muslim, etc. so we concluded that they, somehow r the roots of all this criminal actions like bombing, killing thousands of innocent people,beheading,kidnapping,etc..so what r they?
jockolong 1 month ago
@mrbogusthegreat
Didn't you listen to the video of this obvious myth born( yes born) out of old religions, not fire?
Just because you have the "Final" chapter, doesn't make it any truer.
It's all myth.
Satan..... made up characters from stories of older religions.
Oh, I understand....you fear that if Satan was made up, well THAT means.......*GASP*
Welcome to reality.
BrightStaroftheDawn 1 month ago
@BrightStaroftheDawn If this a myth... why do you even bother to learn more about him? Hypocrite!! God must be tapping into your mind to realize your bigotry.
Jantv81 3 weeks ago
@Jantv81
I know all about "him"...... , "he" is a myth.
A damn interesting myth.
A myth that controls religious people, not me.
Now I will ask you something.
Why is it you bother to learn of "him", see that this documentary displays him as a myth, yet conclude that "he" is real?
BrightStaroftheDawn 3 weeks ago
In Islam the devil is not an angel but rather he is a different being that is made from fire known as jinn.the devil aim in this life is to divert people from the oneness of God and to bring many people into hellfire with him and that's because he blames the children of Adam from being kicked out of heaven. He has no power or dominion over hell but rather it is God who has power and punishes whomsoever he will. the gatekeeper of hell fire is in fact the angel of hellfire known as Malik.
kindiseverything 1 month ago
If your interested in any of this you might like His Dark Materials by Phillip Pullman.
Rainfish14 1 month ago
The people who made this video made a mistake, they said "history" when they should have said fictional story.
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In all this game, the devil is losing and at the end will be accused of everything because GOD don’t want any rivals. Conclusion: live at the full in the freedom of GOD (praying in a right form, following the INSTRUCTIONS in the Bible - keeping the 10 commandments - including keeping the Saturday as the 7th day etc.) instead of in the incapacity and limited power of devil because he is just a temporary puppet. Jesus Christ is our savior and our hope!
diptdipt 1 month ago
just to make sure im going to live my life full of sin, then on my deathbed confess my sins and go to heaven. SIMPLES :-)
basildonboi18 1 month ago
HAIL SATAN
vsanchezls1 1 month ago
@vsanchezls1 HAIL SATAN
twoface3525 1 month ago
@vsanchezls1
fuck you dickhead satanist, ill kick your ass
emporroll 4 weeks ago
By all accounts one of its workers was the last US prez and current Russian
freedomisfromtruth 1 month ago
his job is to kill you destroy you tricking you into his ways god wants peace for you and love..love greater then anything love you think youve had without him. ofc that's if you ecept him in his life. and devil.. how tricky and smart he is he owns most of the evil in this world.
iner75 1 month ago
@iner75 fuck god Satan and I have an aggrement and I know he will keep his end of the bargain
twoface3525 1 month ago
seriously people if both are real fine but dont let it scare u from having fun and enjoying ur life
di66611 1 month ago
luv it
DIEROTHSCHILD 1 month ago
SATAN IS MASTER
twoface3525 1 month ago
@twoface3525 NO Jesus is weirdo
gamerman1235 1 month ago
@gamerman1235 we'll see
twoface3525 1 month ago
it is sayed in the bible that God's recent angels that decided to rebel against God (cause he thought he knew and thought that he could do things better than God), when they joined forces with satan they fought against God's angels and lost.... now the followers of satan (the angels that joined him) are in the deepest parts of hell locked in chains and tormented day and night nonstop forever with no rest, thats the real story from the bible
cristobalmedina14 1 month ago
Fuck all this (devil..god) idc where i will go when i die hell heaven who cares...i just wanna have good time while i'm alive
4everbroski 1 month ago
Good and Evil is a relationship between soul and flesh. The soul is fulfillment and flesh is greed and between the will.So imagine the struggle ..
humberlick 1 month ago
ALL HAIL SATAN.
cambadass 1 month ago
Mistake: Hades ruled Tarteris, not hades. "Hell" was called Hades after people stopped calling the "god" Hades and changed the name to Devil/Satan etc.
baalisgod666 1 month ago
@baalisgod666 Really, because I've actually studied a lot about ancient forms of paganism, with a particular interest in Greek and Roman. Lucifer being a Latin name meaning "light-bringer." Which is also funny, He was identified as the brightest star on the horizon just before the sun rose, Lucifer also sometimes being called the herald of the sun. The star was dubbed Lucifer by Romans and later identified as the planet Venus, which was also known as the morning and evening star.
RemnantShadowz 1 month ago
@RemnantShadowz yes it's latin, but they took over the church. Your brainwashed.
baalisgod666 1 month ago
@RemnantShadowz why is light bringer funny? Jesus was called light bringer. Lucifer isn't a real entity, just the defamed name.
Baal is similar. It means LORD, yet the jews call him the devil. Now all brainwashed people think so too. Lord is god, so baal is god.
baalisgod666 1 month ago
@baalisgod666 I think most people don't know that the Jews, Greeks and Romans all had a go at changing things. The real church died with Jesus and then his brother James.
baalisgod666 1 month ago
when the world ends,,,,im neutrel
turkyish 1 month ago
My mum's a physic, she speaks to spirits and ghosts, God and the devil are not real
LucasHansson 1 month ago
@LucasHansson neither are psychics.
baalisgod666 1 month ago
Learn to spell . It's Moron not Moran you MORON.
rlopez1255 1 month ago
Sidenote: Lucifer was the name of an old roman god of the morning star, how very coincidental
RemnantShadowz 1 month ago
@RemnantShadowz Where do you get your lies from?
The early christians were split. (read the dead sea scrolls). One half called themselves the "bringers of light" or "Priests of light", while they called the others "ones of darkness". Unfortunately, the "dark ones" won. Bringer of light (translates as "Lucifer") were put into disrepute.
Jesus was called "bringer of light" while he lived. Stupid Americans have been lied to for years by illegitimate churches like mormons etc.
baalisgod666 1 month ago
Lucifer was a white man. See lycaons revels. Tells how he fell from heaven
dethiphoptv 1 month ago
i've heard that when many people have the same resemblance of thoughts like: satan, aliens,... they become reality... the thoughts become reality, likr in south park: fantasy country.
weird, but it's more logical this theory than the bible.
bilions of planets like the earth, with advanced evoulution like ours. so why would Satan be on our planet? what makes us so special? think about it.
terravires2 2 months ago
@terravires2 well we were made in the image of god. and if aliens were real with i do belive exists, there not close to god they come here because they want to know why we are more beautiful then they are and why we are close to god. plus we arent special for having satan he is evil
Mileyfanlover101 1 month ago
guy wants to say since i was a satanist an now ive seen the TRUTH and christian. he asks when am i gonna be muslim? well smart ass here ya go. the bible teaches an we all know satans a coward who feeds lies into our heads. jesus says "i am the truth and the light. nobody comes to the father but by me" so ANYTHING else is false doctrines and works of the devil. so no im not gonna be a nasty muslim. i told u ive turned away from the forces of evil.
1980kyboy 2 months ago
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Its Been So Many Talk About Satan AKA The Judge. God Maybe The Knig Of Kings But I Bow Down To No Man Ever Since God Killed My Father. Myslef The Defector Of Christianity
I Cant Never Forgive What The Church Of God Did To Me The Way The Fallen Angel Lucifer
But Satan Was There And Told Me Im the Judge Loyal Servant Of God I Was Betrayed By The Church. God I Can Never Forgive For Murder
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TheMramon81 2 months ago
I don't think Lucifer mean't to defy God. He was just jealous that God created man and asked the angels to bow down to man. Lucifer felt superior and refused. I don't believe he knew his punishment would be so swift. I think Lucifer loves God but despises mankind. He's jealous.
rlopez1255 2 months ago
you're a moran , lucifer hates God and all mankind, Jesus tell us that his a killer he i evil, and father of lyers.
mariushij 1 month ago
@mariushij really? jesus tells you? LIAR. read the fucking bible, and learn that your "teachers" are liars too.
baalisgod666 1 month ago
The original devil is Ahriman, from Zoroastrianism. Put your bible down and study history.
Serephim9 2 months ago
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Question is what will happen with illogic believers ( PORNO CHRISTIAN THE HUMAN WORSHIPER AND PAGAN HINDU) and evil atheist?
(1) they may Go to hell for ever.
(2) God can destroy their soul for ever= (Qur'an 45:27) "on the Day when the Hour rises, who follow falsehood will be lost."
(3) or God may reject their soul and they will find themselves inside the Collapsing universe =“Then fear the Fire, whose fuel is men and stones, prepared for the disbelievers.” (Quran 2:24)
tanzilize 2 months ago
love those william blake drawings.
thepixieful 3 months ago
"Where did he come from?" ... Liverpool.
mojoswoptopz 3 months ago
God gives you brains, god gives you science... but god doesn't intend for you to use your brains to understand science?
mojoswoptopz 3 months ago
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@silverwave00
read the bible you will get the answers there. Unfortunately you have to seek after that, but if you wholeheartedly do it, maybe God will help you get the anwers, for everything!!
31Godbless 3 months ago
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31Godbless 3 months ago
I was taught at school that St Lucifer thought he was better than God,and God cast him out,and made a place for him and all his angels. That place was Hell.
Biffo347 3 months ago
@Biffo347 Lucifer was no saint. The catholic ideology of saints perverts what is a real saint.
weazz 3 months ago
@weazz st lucifer has nothing to do with lucifer aka the devil. its latin, meaning light bearer. the name is merely a latin reference to venus before dawn.
taliesin939939 2 months ago
Satan can NOT be a angle because angels are made of light and Satan said hem self "I am better than Adam ,iam made of fire and he of clay "Satan said he is made of fire and angels are NOT made of fire .
So this with that Satan is an "fallen angel" is not correct.
jasonthemankiller 3 months ago
@jasonthemankiller isnt that the muslim interpretation of satan, of Iblis. Satan is always an angel; because satan is the angel chosen by god to be the accuser, to test the faith of gods believers. So god grants an angel the task of being a satan, in some stories that angel chosen to execute the job that is satan is called lucifer.
speedcoregewalt 3 months ago
@speedcoregewalt Are you saying angles are made of fire ???
In the Bibles you can find Satan answering God saying " I am made of fire and iam better than Adam"
And again Angels are NOT made of fire .
God gave a name to this creature and thats Ebli and he is from the Jinn race .
jasonthemankiller 3 months ago
@jasonthemankiller
you said angels are made of light, and not of fire which is a very confusing statement. I would easily argue that the Sun is made of light seeing as it is the only source of light(and stars) our planet has ever had and it is made of fire. Fire has always been our source of light there is no other source until technological advancements provided them, but even today all light produces heat. God appeared to Moses as a burning bush, which represents the light of God and fire.
Overflo4444 2 months ago
@jasonthemankiller
Bible also says God casts a third of the stars out of heaven, which is commonly thought to be a reference to Satan and the Angels he converted to disobey God. This statement supports that statement made by Satan that he is made of fire which would inherently make him made of light as fire is the only source of light our universe has.
Overflo4444 2 months ago
god made satan so he could be the bad guy for 6000 years...satans going to rule the world..then gods going to save the day..the problem i have with that is...whos to say that god that comes from the sky isnt just another being like lucifer who just set it all up so he could look like the saviour..when in reality hes just another thing who wants to rule the world and be the most high by letting satan rule and do bad things for along time so that he can save the day
silverwave00 3 months ago
ALL FAKE ;)
cipiripiable 3 months ago
why does (in most paintings of satan) have a face where his "man parts" should be?
ImCarrotsforBananas 3 months ago
So this first thing you hear is that "Satan" is the accussor in the Hebrew Bible (stumbling block); aren't all these lame comments interesting in light of that initial definition?
Taoist111 3 months ago
It always surprises me how well educated theological professors can quote the chapter and verse by heart of the bible but are as blind as hell to explain the spirit in which they are meant.
MrMaxTruth 3 months ago
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metronomus76 3 months ago
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This series is nothing less than a cleverly disguised apologist view for Satanism itself wrapped up in the package of a 'documentary'.
ShahriarMazandi 3 months ago
if it was true you had to take sides, why if you lived your life ull of sin would you be tortured in hell? wouldn't the demons and satan like you for defying god????
basildonboi18 3 months ago 24
@basildonboi18 The punishment of hell, In the end, Is to punish the devil and his demons, So dont think they will all be living the life of it down there.
TerroristTheatre 3 months ago
@basildonboi18 because they are pure evil, pure evil means that they cant love anything, including themselves.
JESUS4LIFE50 2 months ago
@basildonboi18 i used to be a satanist. now im a christian! first of all satan and his cowardly demons dont like or love anything! and satan an his demons cant cast u into hell or heaven. the biook of luke says "fear he that haveth the power to cast you into hell" meaning only god has the power
1980kyboy 2 months ago
@1980kyboy so you were a Satanist and now your a Christian? how long until your a Muslim?
MrAbnormal22 2 months ago
@basildonboi18 well because lucifer was jealsous that god loved humans more then him.
so he hates humans because god loved them more
Mileyfanlover101 1 month ago
@basildonboi18 thats a good piont
suckadickfaggot911 1 month ago
@basildonboi18 Yeah, that never did make much sense to me either.
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@basildonboi18
Exactly.
Thats something i always was confused about
womblewandering 1 month ago
@basildonboi18 maybe they would I just think churches try to scare us into thinking we will be torutrued so we don't sin so all I can say is WORSHIP SATAN
twoface3525 1 month ago
@basildonboi18 They partially like you for sinning...But since human IS the exact appearance of God(like two legs noses etc), they will torment you no matter what...
JCtherocks 1 month ago
@JCtherocks HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT GOD LOOKS LIKE?
basildonboi18 1 month ago
@basildonboi18 Bible said it :P
JCtherocks 1 month ago
@basildonboi18 No one knows what God looks like. God is our Heavenly Father who is the only perfect being- and he controls all events throughout time.
Jantv81 3 weeks ago
@basildonboi18 nah everyone will burn for ever even the demons.
JamesCarlos88 1 month ago
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@RockinToke DUDE KICK ASS COMMENT
moonknight1985 3 months ago
Satan,he isn't ugly....he isn't in Red color,he doesn't have horns....Satan is beautiful as gods angel....Allah created him very very beautiful that your eyes haven't see a person like Satan...but he's Evil...He tries to prove god that he can control us! Allah will win...The victory belongs to Allah... why is Satan Beautiful? because he's Allah's Angel...
JamesMorthon 4 months ago
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FeignofCordor 4 months ago
@BlackBeltOfADDICTION
(I’ve studied the “world’s” Osiris! What the hell are you talking about? FACT: Egyptians believed in the divinity of Osiris. FACT: Biblical stories are copied almost word for word from the more ancient Egyptian stories of divinity. Need I give you examples? Go to Egypt and see for yourself your stupid dork.)
Nonpeon 4 months ago
@BlackBeltOfADDICTION
(Don’t get your wall point.)
Nonpeon 4 months ago
@BlackBeltOfADDICTION
(Oh please, stop with your religious garbage. I’ve studied religion and was very religious – CHRISTIAN – for many years until I saw for myself the more ancient history of Egypt. This Satan story is loosely based on actual human history as the original son of God – the blacks – have been usurped from their throne by their diabolical derivatives. This story is repeated many times in the bible. )
Nonpeon 4 months ago
Doesn't this make it obvious that it's all made up?
godsentyes 4 months ago
@BlackBeltOfADDICTION
Fact is, the whole biblical tradition was STOLEN from the holy Egyptian texts. Nowadays, dummies, like you, claim that they were EVIL, or Barbaric, or Pagan, not knowing from whence their whole believe structure originated. By the way, I've study Egypt specifically for 10 years now. But don't want to toot my horn. Don't believe me, look up online Immaculate conception and Isis. Look up Osiris and Set (which later became SET-AN or Satan, Set the most high). Time to eat. :-)
Nonpeon 4 months ago
@BlackBeltOfADDICTION
SET, his evil brother, killed him and cut him into pieces (sounds like the Cain and Able story, but much older), and then Isis reconstructed his body except his penis, which was eaten by an alligator, and wanting to conceive, she had intercourse with a penis-less Osiris by flapping her wings over him until she was IMMACULATELY impregnated (Mary and Jesus story). Osiris ROSE on the 3rd day (like Jesus story) to ascend into heaven. Any amateur Egyptologist can tell you this
Nonpeon 4 months ago
@BlackBeltOfADDICTION
Your whole series of discussions are absolutely ridiculous. A) I never told you what I believe in. B) Who cares about Mormons (I ain't one), C) We're talking about Osiris, and you start talking about Alien abduction. LOL!! Admit it, you've no clue. But don't take my word for it, just go to Egypt and see for yourself. The story is on their walls. Osiris represented one of their HOLY trinity, (he was the Father), Isis the Mother, and Horus the Son. YOur a nube.
Nonpeon 4 months ago
@BlackBeltOfADDICTION
What does he being god of the dead, which I just said he was as he sat in judgement of the dead, and weighed them with a feather to see if their soul was light enough to ascend into heaven, have to do with him being evil? You still haven't answered the question. The Christian god performed the same function. Secondly, have you ever been to Egypt? Thirdly, he was NOT considered evil by Egyptians. His evil brother Set (who murdered him) was. Sounds like you're a neophyte.
Nonpeon 4 months ago
@BlackBeltOfADDICTION
Well Osiris sat in Judgement of the dead, and banished one to hell or to heaven depending on whether your soul was light as a feather. This is represented all over the Egyptian pyramid motifs. Not sure if your insinuation of him being evil is true. Thanks....
Nonpeon 4 months ago
SATAN'S 1000 TEAR REIGN IS AT AN END
REPENT OR PERISH
davidthomasmorton 4 months ago
if you religious people still keep on beliving in those fairy tales in the bible i feel sorry for you. this video is proof enough that what you belive in is all lies. they obviously took the persians religion and greeks belives and turn it into a new religion and created a bible full of stolen religions. they also stole the sumerians accounts and simply changed names of characters. how can you people be so gulible to religion in 2011? theres no excuse for being that guilible in the age computers
211bkmob 4 months ago
@211bkmob see if you dont like our beliefs then why do you try to mock us? no-one here cares about your opinion seriously they dont, so do us a favour and let us believe what we want, it has nothing to do with you ok?
Aidenrockz09 4 months ago
@Aidenrockz09 hahah,no body cares about my opinion? but then you turn around and reply to my comment? that makes sense? and exactly what was my opinion? what i said are all FACTS not opinions.
and exactly how did i mocked people? you religious people are the ones that mock people that belive in aliens or have a diffrent religion. and then you insult us by shoving you christian belives down our throats when we already have diffrent belives. christianity is just a CULT but you people are BLIND
211bkmob 4 months ago
@211bkmob FACTS? and where do you find these facts exactly, i dont see these facts i see a ignorant one sided view. Also why do you come onto a religous video if you dont believe where is the sense in that maybe someone is shoving THEIR opinions down our throat just like hippocritical one sided idiots, if you dont believe then fair enough that is YOUR view but we do and its causing no one harm so do us all a favor and let us believe what we want and we will do vice versa ok?
Aidenrockz09 4 months ago
@Aidenrockz09 well your definitly blind and havent done your research. go research the ancient text's,go research the sumerian cuniform clay tablets. everything this guy said in this video could be researched.but of course you people dont do it cause is goin to conflict with your brainwashed bealeifs.and this is not a damn religious video.and nobody is shoving their opinions down your throat. you decided to watch the video. you people constanly shoved your beleifs down our throats.
211bkmob 4 months ago
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@joshlazarus
Then you will be deceived by the New World Order.
sally123lilac 4 months ago
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@joshlazarus you don't believe in the devil? you should...He believes in you.
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TheSebastian243 4 months ago
See the Aimed At America 3 video and ask yourself why certain Americans have repeatedly symbolized themselves as devils.
vincent15641 4 months ago
Again the view of Satan they depict is not quite on par with modern Christianity. For modern Christians rather it's a a ploy to defeat God or just out of spite and jealousy. Satan does not punish sinners or win souls. They will be punished with him and he wants to drag as many down with him as possible. It's the ultimate "misery loves company."
rebirtheternal 4 months ago
In modern Christianity Satan still doesn't reside in hell. Hell isn't occupied at all until after the Thousand Year Kingdom ( what God's thousand year reign on earth is referred to as). He still can come as an angle of light because he is still the most beautiful creature God ever created. The horns and tail and stuff come out of a tradition to poke at his vanity. Also a second tradition of using visual representation to depict the internal nature of a being.
rebirtheternal 4 months ago
@rebirtheternal Point being the view has evolved just not as much as it appears at first glance.
rebirtheternal 4 months ago
@joshlazarus Well none of us will escape death. That you can be certain of. So look at the bright side. When each of our time comes and our heart stops beating, it'll be time for a rude awaking. I'll keep you in prayer.
The earth we stand on is proof enough for me that it was created, without going into detail. Just saying :)
moguy200979 4 months ago
@joshlazarus There isn`t a shred of evidence for all that stuff. The longer a religion lastst the more junk is added. Christianity in the course of it`s history added, what is now considered essential tenets of their religion. E,g, the concept of the Trinity, of" the virgin birth",of " the immortal soul" are all later add-on`s.. If believers like it or not, their religion evolves. That is one more reason no religion`can be true.
ndzoko 4 months ago
@ndzoko Does anybody ever listen to what thier watching? It states in the beginning that the concept of the devil as we know it today, being evil. Did not exist originally and was a construct of different religions and ideologies formed over time. What are people not able to hear/understand? it is plain English!
RepublicOfFinn 4 months ago
its man own mind...creator of god and devil........
himaldew 4 months ago
Don`t question god ?Witches, kill them. Homosexuals, kill them.fortunetellers, kill them. those who don`t listen to priests, kill them. those hitting their dad, kill them. those who curse their parents, kill them, adulterers, kill them. fornicators, kill them. people who believe in other religions, kill them. non-believers,kill them. fals prohets ,kill them. blasphemers, kill them. those who work on the Sabbath, kill them. This is the word of god !!
ndzoko 4 months ago
faggot
MrUberSpanky 4 months ago
@MrUberSpanky : I assume that`s the only word in YOUR cocabulary,. I am just proclaiming the word of the lord. Maybe you don`t agree, that`s your problem.
ndzoko 4 months ago
WHY WHY WHY!!!???? Did they turn this into a Political Documentary????? IT WAS SO GOOD UNTIL 6:42. I am not going to watch the rest of this. British media seems to think England is HOLY and U.S. is so evil. Dude We are the same EVIL. Why ??!! You were so close to making a good Documentary. Then you put your Agenda on at he very end. I was even Going to let the stupid heavy metal music slide. Not now I give you a FAIL score. BOOOOOOO!!!!
MrAlru78 4 months ago
@joshlazarus You should
MySHUGGA 4 months ago
I believe in cheese... it´s tasty...golden... and you can eat it everywhere at any time at every meal.... cheese is awesome!
BadSensation 4 months ago
hinduism prdates both cristianity and islam and it has the concept of demons and angels fighting for the ownership of heaven! so could it be hinduism influenced the stories of satan?
Indiaexpress 4 months ago
@Indiaexpress Every known religion has taken ideas from previously existing religions. They add their own ideosynchrasies , and voila, there you have it. A new religion.
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BeyondCmgWorldCrisis 4 months ago
Already screwing it up. The old testament IS where we find Satan the devil. If you can't do it right you shouldn't do it at all. I question who's behind this production.
vbirdieb 4 months ago
If Satan was an angel then how cud he become the devil when angel dont have free will, they only obey God. And God dont look like Gandalf or any human figure, he created infinity and eternal and the universes...how can we think he ran out of creativity.
If you want to look into the Devil history aka Iblis one should check out Islamic perspective, it wud make alot more sense logically...
YahirKhan1 4 months ago
@YahirKhan1 The Creation of Earth and Humans has nothing to do with logic ,Its god and he said dont QUESTION HIM.# 1
MySHUGGA 4 months ago
I would have loved to watch this, but the sound delay is driving me insane. Bye.
NeoMothAeon 4 months ago
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lol your a fool , fuck whoever you believe in , jesus christ is the only way
Gupitor 4 months ago
nice try athiests but hell still awaits ahhah
emporroll134 4 months ago
For good to exist evil must exist.... fact
emporroll134 4 months ago
@joshlazarus god bless you man.....you'll just perish with the rest of them
Gupitor 5 months ago
@Gupitor you too bitch Zues will make sure he sends you to hell
randallfe 4 months ago
If there is a God there must be a Devil.
Raven236 5 months ago
I would like to add that,
I'm diggin the soundtrack.
I wonder where the music is from... thought it was Metallica for a moment.
3636jae 5 months ago
Go On MusicOfDevilSatan666 Do You Are Ready For The Apocalypse And The Return Of Satan ???
ReturnOfDevilAsh666 5 months ago
Lucifer + satana are created names by the bible. The true history is be founded in HP BLAVATSKY work. And The GNOSTIC
Grayfox3214 5 months ago
666 ave satana
bizarewigga 6 months ago
there are no satanists except for some bored teens and guys who think they can get young girls if they can convince them the satan worship is cool. no ones really a satanist. once you figure out its nonsense, u just quit the whole thing.
adzug 6 months ago
but where does bushes story begin? How did he become the prince of darkness? I mean how did cheiney become the lord of darkness? Bush is like Darth Vader and Cheiney like the emperor. Cheiney is all powerful evil and bush is the evil enforcer who makes stupid choices.
Rainfish14 6 months ago
I don't believe in the devil, but it's still a fascinating story. Just that though, a story.
ccipollini1984 6 months ago