Powerful stuff. I'm not dissing on every person that's pro-life, but most that I've met don't even think about this [as in prosecuting women once they achieve their goal of making abortion illegal]. Which makes me believe that they haven't completely thought out their opinion... and therefore it's ill-founded.
@infinitecharms im not brianwashed. i know the truth. MURDER IS MURDER. WHETHER THAT LIVING SOUL IS ONE SECOND OLD OR 80 YEARS OLD! i dont care how old the baby is when its in the womb! at 2 weeks the baby has a beating heart and body that is not fully developed. and just because it isnt fully developed at 2 weeks does not mean its not a living soul. you will go to hell.
@shandelable You're misinformed, hell doesn't exist. If you want the fetus' to live so damn bad then you can pay for the well baby visits and the birth for all of them. Good luck with that and just continue to go ahead and preach your bullshit to everyone.
@shandelable What is a child muderer? Personally, I think you need to see a therapist, you seem obsessed with this pro-life stuff and need help. You really need to mind your own business and let people live their own lives. A medical procedure is between a patient and doctor and you have no right to that info. Get a hobby or something.
@shandelable Under Roe v Wade, abortion is not murder and it is a legal procedure. So have you adopted a child lately? If you want every fetus to live then maybe you should start adopting them.
@infinitecharms Your an ideot!. murder is murder! abortion is pulling and forcing a baby out of the womb and torturing them by breaking their body parts or god knows what else until they are dead and throwing them in a dumpster!! it is the same kind of murder or similiar to young children of all ages as young as 2 weeks old kidnapped and murdered or abused to death by a family member! which i could see you doing! so are you a child murderer? have you ever murdered a baby? yes or no?
@shandelable You're the ideot, go away all ready, I am bored with your stupid crap. If you love babies so much, go adopt all the unwanted children down at the orphanage, it will give you something to do besides telling people what to do with their bodies and scaring people with the wrath of the almighty sky wizard.
@infinitecharms YOU HAVE NOT ANSWERED MY QUESTION? MY GUESS IS YES SINCE YOU HAVE BEEN AVOIDING IT! ARE YOU A MURDERER? YOU CAN TAKE CARE OF A DOG BUT NOT A CHILD. PATHETIC! IM NOT THE ONLY PERSON IN THE WORLD WHO WANTS TO ADOPT EITHER! ARE YOU A MURDERER? HAVE YOU MURDERED A BABY?
@infinitecharms ARE YOU A CHILD MURDERER? MURDER IS A SIN. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ARE ON YOUR WAY TO HELL AND UNLESS YOU REPENT TO GOD THAT YOU ARE A SINNER IM AFRAID THAT YOU WILL SPEND AN ETERNITY IN HELL. BUT YOU WILL NOT BE ALONE. IM SURE YOUR FRIENDS WILL JOIN YOU THERE IN THE END! YOU WILL REMEMBER THIS WARNING!
precaution prevents abortion. If abortion was illegal, perhaps people would act more responsible, knowing that a quick fix isn't an option. Ever heard of adoption?
A woman is always the Victim of Abortion. The 'Doctor' is the muderer. Women are never told that their lives will be ruined after an abortion. They are not told that they will be 6 times more likely to commit suicide. They are not told that they may have problems bonding with future children. The woman is always the victim. She will suffer greater having the abortion than she will ever suffer in jail. She already torments herself over her decision.
It was her fucking decision you dipshit, you said it yourself. The doctor is no more guilty of murder than a guard dog being guilty of assault when it bites a burglar. You selfishly decide to enter into that situation, then that's your look-out. The only "Victim of Abortion" is the unborn baby.
Abortion is the biggest joke on women there is. A sick joke. Her decision usually comes from her boyfriend. It usually is not her 'choice' at all. There are two victims from abortion. 1 dies and the other is injured for life. You are correct in some points but error in others. Abortion is a terrible tragedy in America.
Arbortion is terrible. The women who choose to 'get rid' for selfish reasons will never have my sympathy. On the other hand, those who are bullied or forced into the situation against their will or better judgement have my sympathy whole-heartedly. Still, if they have any choice in the matter, regardless of the circumstances, they should not take away the chance of a life that's meant to be.
The women are scared. They feel trapped and usually the man involved does not want to have the child and she feels she cannot do it alone. Yes there are those women who choose for selfish reasons but I think that number is really small in comparrison. If more women knew about CRISIS PREGANCY CENTERS they would know they have somewhere to turn. Most Crisis Pregnancy Centers do post abortive counseling. Women need LOTS of counseling after having an abortion.
Is it not a form of protestation? Look man, I think we're barking up the same tree, the right one- with slightly different motivation. Abortion is ultimately wrong but I can't blame anyone for considering it in particular circumstances.
My belief is this: "Every child a wanted child, every mother a willing mother."
To all you pro-lifers, I guess it's better that children be born to be abused and neglected, or discarded in a dumpster as soon as their born. Because the BABY doesn't matter. Just the fetus.
hell yeh why da fuck would i an indian-canadian want to live in the lowest and poorest of conditions, and have to struggle with the shit my parents would go through, i'd probably say "if u couldn't care for me why did u have me born". Now if they were rich or summat then it'd be a different story or even midddle class
ur mom is shallow, i would never want to live ino a poor family of underage parents as they will get screwed most their life, if u think u could live like that than ur fooling ur self
Who wants to be poor? Nobody. But that is still no excuse to wipe out a human life. Some of the finest minds who ever lived come from abject poverty. Imagine a world where everyone's destiny was decided for them before they are born, and action taken to prevent them becoming everything they could possibly be by annihilating them all in utero. You shouldn't be fighting for that reality.
Death is better then a life full of shit. Answer the question would u want to be born into a family that cant feed u properly or expects u to possibly die
teh value of life i know the value to a much further extent then u, wat one can do with their lives, kill, or create. U dont understand that these innocent kids will be better off dead then being born becuase the lives they will live will be unbearable. Ur basically saying its ok for Poor people to have 7-8 kids
i will kick ur ass if i eer see u, ass hole. No one is ebtter off dead, u prove dmy point, u would rather pooor families have 8-9 kids over them being aborted. I aint twisting ur words u just fail at life and contradict ur self. Plenty r better off dead. U rn' indian and can never understand ur just a fuckin ass who is being bested by a 16 year old kid
keep telling yourself that, dimwit. 16? I'm disappointed. Don't take your inferiority out on me, just keep trying- you're life may be worth something some day. I'd hate for you to be the exception to everything I've said...
instead of standing ur ground fuck heads like u act like homo's u dont even know my stand point. I have lived in a world where people i know would have been better off dead. u shit fuck
You don't know anything about me. You have made assumptions about my race, sexuality, intellect, outlook and financial situation. All I have ever alluded to is my position on the sanctity of life. I know that some people can't see the point of life or the point of trying at anything. I say they are all fools. It's only the whiney ones who see their circumstances as being anything to warrant ending it all. If you don't like your lot, pick yourself up by the bootstraps and improve it. No death.
nice makin shit up. U think its easy to jsut imirpove ones life but its not. I live in Canada and understand jsut as well just answer this one thing. Do u think 3rd world country men should have 8-9 babies for the sake of ahving 3 survive to provide for them in the future?
I haven't made anything up. It's all there for all to see. People should be educated so as not to bring offspring they can't cope with into the world. Genocide is certainly not the solution. I hope you grow up soon- I can't believe you are as old as 16.
me a dimwit, i ahve surpassed ur knowledge when i was born. I understand abortion kills a living being but u dont know what bringing that child in a shit world can do, and u never will because u r narrow minded
my world and your world are actually the same- if you had any sense you would have realised that by now. I can see you are very damaged, but I have hope for you. Give your head a shake and stop being so daft.
how is it the same, did u grow up as a middle calss men admist a workd of poverty, no u havn't, My hope is given. I have looked at it both ways. U say that we cant take away innocent lives through abortion but in 3rd world nations and some parts of the new world it is desperatly needed as we r doing much worse then taking away innocent lives.
@venthesen POOR OR RICH LIFE IS WHAT YOU MAKE IT!! MY MOTHER "ABORTED"/ MURDERED MY BROTHER BUT NOT ME! I HAD A SHIT LIFE BUT WHEN I WAS 16 I MOVED OUT AND I MADE SOMETHING OUT OF MYSELF AND NOW I HAVE MORE MONEY THAN I EVER IMAGINED! AND I HAVE A BEAUTIFUL CHILD WHO WILL HAVE A BETTER LIFE THAN I! EVEN THOUGH I WENT THROUGH 16 YEARS OF SHIT IM GLAD MY MOM DID NOT KILL ME TOO! LIFES WHAT YOU MAKE IT! ABORTION IS MURDER! IF YOUR A WHORE GET ON BIRTH CONTROL! OR ADOPT DONT KILL!
@shandelable TURNS OUT UR ASS WAS ONE OF THE LUCKY ONES, A PERSON SMART ENOUGH TO USE THEIR SURROUNDINGS TO THEIR ADVANTAGE AND AGAINST ALL ODDS SUCCEED SO THAT GOD IS LEFT IN AWE. WELL THAT ISN'T THE CASE FOR EVERY ONE MOST KIDS IN UR SITUATION WITH A SINGLE MOTHER WHO TREATS THEM LIKE SHIT END UP DEAD OR MESSED UP IN DRUGS . IF U WERE ABLE TO MAKE ENOUGH $ AT 16 GOOD FOR U U WERE GIFTED WITH BRAINS, not everyone is that lucky. If i killed every terrorist today am i a liberator or murderer?
@M0EJ0EKING of course not, why would babies be terrorists, if ur trying to compare them to my example (i'm using a different account cuz my shit got hacked) then ur ignorant. I'm not saying lets go kill every baby in the third world, i'm saying educate the parents so they dont have 9-10 babies, in the mean time provide the public with safe and hygenic abortion, because it will always exist, would u have a coat hanger used to do an abortion or medical equipment?
@M0EJ0EKING calling me MJ shows how little respect for you have for someone who doesn't even exist anymore. Ur idea isn't that bad, but ask urself this, does any 3rd world nation, even canada or usa, have the resources to educate everysingle idiot or make all girls take the pills? No they don't, u need to understand that abortions will always happen, why not make them safe?
bitch, it the internet, i dont use grammar, If u r born for the purpose of being able to survive among ur 7 siblings to take care of ur parents then u should not have been born. As an indian canadian,i know, most indian, african, and poor families have 7-8 so that if 5 die atleast 3 will care for them in the future. Why is no the correct answer, why is it wrong to kill, its a crime to bring an innocent baby into a life of hardships which it doesnt deserve, it deserves a fair life lile in canada
yes we should, lets us Africa, kids are used for cheap dangerous labor and are mostlikely going to die from aid anyway, so putting them out of their misery is good. Naw i'm jus kidding. Its just there should be laws stopping underaged parents oor parents who aren't financially stable from having kids. Thomas Malthus's theory, more poor kids are born so the " surviving" ones can take care of their parents in the future, thats wat poor people do. It has to stop.
i know it is, but the 1st step to ending slavery is ending 9-10 kids/ family. Out of those kids 4-5 are used for cheap labor which robs them of their youth, they dont deserve to be born into that.
work is good for kids. kids need to work more today. all kids do today is seem to play video games. killing innocent life is always wrong. how many familes do you know with 9 kids?
dont get me wrong i love the idea of work for kds, but not cheap slave labor with 6 cents per day. As a canadian raised in India i can name around5-8 families with more than 6 kids. Kids should do normal work that builds character not labor that takes away their child hood. And video games teach us a lot.
A quick survey of these posts prove the obvious... the issue isn't about the sanctity of life. It is about hating women. If you love life, love all mothers, daughters, and children. I'd start with ending war.
hmmmm no, abortion HURTS women. I love women. In the USA alone 4,000 innocent lives are taken by abortion EACH DAY. Since 1973 over 50,000,000 Innocent American lives were killed by abortion. If you add up ALL of the AMERICAN CASUALTIES of war they do not come close to FIFTY MILLION. Abortion is the number one killer of Black Americans.
I appreciate your commitment... and so, I hope you'll chase down tobacco companies with even more passion... and then drug companies and doctors... ooooh and mcdonalds, gm, ford, etc. etc.
Your statistics don't justify your actions... if you were 100% committed to life, you'd pursue bigger crimes with more vigor... and so, why do you think you you're so passionate about abortion?
You know if those women really had abortions I'd rather see them with black hoods on their heads about to face the executioner than see them in mug shots. It's more fitting for monsters like that.
Stupidest argument ever. That's like saying the US shouldn't have outlawed slavery because slave owners would then become criminals. Uhh.. yeah, thats the idea! Nobody should have the right to murder in America.
Is an unborn child a person? Of course he or she is indeed a person. Killing a person is wrong and it diminishes everyone involved. Of course society must stand ready to care for these children. In America, there are huge waiting lists to adopt unwanted babies and many charities that devote themselves to caring for children. But the basic fact is that there is no justification for taking a human life, especially the most innocent and helpless.
Look, I understand that it is killing, but do you want US to be like China and India where the overpopulation cripples the economy? It is for the sake of environment and economy.
Look at European countries where they allow abortion, their country is rich and advanced. Sometimes you have to do the wrong thing before doing the right thing.
what if nobody wants to adopt the child, what do you do? dump it in a dumpster? What if the girl conceived because of rape? Just Let the women choose.
These "rich and advanced" European nations are quickly disappearing on account of thier high abortion rates and low birth rates, given these nations are built heavily on extravagant social programs which require constant or increasing population levels, many European nations have taken to importing large numbers of immigrants (mostly Muslim) to pick up the slack. By the end of the century few will be recognizable as European, let alone "rich" or "advanced".
Prolifers are no more forcing there views on other people than making knocking over a liquor store illegal is forcing anti-armed robbery views on other people. Abortion is offense against reason itself. Google pro-life atheists. Such a thing would not be possible if anti-abortion were merely a religious artifact. And once again we hear the UNSUBSTANTIATED charge that serious pro-lifers want to put women in prison.
This prolifers forcing there views on other people. I may not personally believe in abortion but I can't force my views on other people. i have to say if Roe V wade was overturned you will have women either doing abortions them selves and injure and bleed to death or women dying from infecttion due to having abortion in back alleys in unsantiary condtions. I wish the government would keep religion out of it. I may try to talk women out of it but if abortion is their final decision so be it.
Again, looking at pre-Roe v. Wade prosecution shows there is no reason to expect jail time for women--and pre-Roe v. Wade society was lots more stringent.
As far as shortages of doctors: a). If doctors are facing real jail time and loss of license, support for abortion will fizzle fast among them and b.) doctors that do abortions extensively tend to be the bottom of the barrel anyway.
Pro-life people keep saying that abortion in murder, so I think it is reasonable to expect that if abortion is outlawed women will be put in jail for the same amount of time as people convicted of murder. Also, if doctors go to jail for performing illegal abortions, who will women turn for their medical care? We already have a shortage of OB/GYNs due to high malpractice insurance costs.
McCain and his ilk don't believe women NEED healthcare.
Colorado plans to charge women who miscarry or suffer stillbirths with MURDER if their state abortion ban gets OK'ed.
Are really people so perverted and self-righteous that they want to see women IMPRISONED FOR LIFE because of an act of nature that is completely out of anyone's control?
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Well, yeah, the Left are the fearmongers because there is no precedent for locking up women who get abortions. A born baby can't survive without someone feeding it, so the support-of-the-woman objection is nonsense. And just as no one expected abolitionists to pay to free slaves, so it is ridiculous to expect pro-lifers to pay child support.
The left are not the fearmongers, the right wing are the fearmongers. Abortion is not murder, a fetus can't live without the life support of a woman. If you don't like abortion then don't have one but stay the heck out of other's business and body. Unless your willing to pay child support for all the unwanted babies stop trying to force women to keep unwanted pregnancies, it's their business.
@shandelable You're the dumbfuck. You ever have a baby? It is not a baby when it is in the womb, it is a fetus, you retard. I will not be told what to do with my body. It is my body, if you don't like abortion, then don't have one, asshole!
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Some of us need to put down the bong and copy of The Handmaid's Tale. Just look at prosecution before Roe v. Wade--Prosecutors went after the abortionist, not the woman.
This is fearmongering, which the Left is all to ready to accuse pro-lifers of doing. Before Roe v. Wade, it was ABORTIONISTS who were prosecuted for the abortions, not the women. In the states that will ban abortion if that happened, it will STILL be the abortionists who will be prosecuted.
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"protects woman's right to choose"
More like gives woman the right to murder. Would I not get in trouble if I punched a pregnant woman in the stomach? What happened to my right to choose then?
always have and always will be pro choice
forgetregret100 3 months ago
Why would anyone want to force incompetent mothers to raise a child. I am pro-choice.
zadeh79 6 months ago 2
@zadeh79 Because they must be PUNISHED! Orthrwise, they will just have sex to there hearts content
PrudishFury 5 months ago
This isn't true-no one wants to put women in jail.
bluepuppyboy 9 months ago 2
THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING THE FREEDOM TO CHOOSE
THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING AMERICA PRO-CHOICE
PALOMITA694 1 year ago
@ msteelart well said mate
madeddu7 1 year ago
Powerful stuff. I'm not dissing on every person that's pro-life, but most that I've met don't even think about this [as in prosecuting women once they achieve their goal of making abortion illegal]. Which makes me believe that they haven't completely thought out their opinion... and therefore it's ill-founded.
DizzyDior12 1 year ago
women? you mean murderers be treated like criminals?
shandelable 1 year ago
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@shandelable God doesn't exist! You are brainwashed and mind your own business.
infinitecharms 1 year ago
@infinitecharms im not brianwashed. i know the truth. MURDER IS MURDER. WHETHER THAT LIVING SOUL IS ONE SECOND OLD OR 80 YEARS OLD! i dont care how old the baby is when its in the womb! at 2 weeks the baby has a beating heart and body that is not fully developed. and just because it isnt fully developed at 2 weeks does not mean its not a living soul. you will go to hell.
shandelable 1 year ago
@shandelable You're misinformed, hell doesn't exist. If you want the fetus' to live so damn bad then you can pay for the well baby visits and the birth for all of them. Good luck with that and just continue to go ahead and preach your bullshit to everyone.
infinitecharms 1 year ago
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shandelable 1 year ago
@shandelable What is a child muderer? Personally, I think you need to see a therapist, you seem obsessed with this pro-life stuff and need help. You really need to mind your own business and let people live their own lives. A medical procedure is between a patient and doctor and you have no right to that info. Get a hobby or something.
infinitecharms 1 year ago
@infinitecharms MURDER IS MURDER! YOUR THE ONE WHO IS LOST BUDDY!
shandelable 1 year ago
@shandelable Under Roe v Wade, abortion is not murder and it is a legal procedure. So have you adopted a child lately? If you want every fetus to live then maybe you should start adopting them.
infinitecharms 1 year ago
@shandelable So where will that be, up on a cloud somewhere?
infinitecharms 1 year ago
@infinitecharms Your an ideot!. murder is murder! abortion is pulling and forcing a baby out of the womb and torturing them by breaking their body parts or god knows what else until they are dead and throwing them in a dumpster!! it is the same kind of murder or similiar to young children of all ages as young as 2 weeks old kidnapped and murdered or abused to death by a family member! which i could see you doing! so are you a child murderer? have you ever murdered a baby? yes or no?
shandelable 1 year ago
@shandelable You're the ideot, go away all ready, I am bored with your stupid crap. If you love babies so much, go adopt all the unwanted children down at the orphanage, it will give you something to do besides telling people what to do with their bodies and scaring people with the wrath of the almighty sky wizard.
infinitecharms 1 year ago
@infinitecharms YOU HAVE NOT ANSWERED MY QUESTION? MY GUESS IS YES SINCE YOU HAVE BEEN AVOIDING IT! ARE YOU A MURDERER? YOU CAN TAKE CARE OF A DOG BUT NOT A CHILD. PATHETIC! IM NOT THE ONLY PERSON IN THE WORLD WHO WANTS TO ADOPT EITHER! ARE YOU A MURDERER? HAVE YOU MURDERED A BABY?
shandelable 1 year ago
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@infinitecharms ARE YOU A CHILD MURDERER? MURDER IS A SIN. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ARE ON YOUR WAY TO HELL AND UNLESS YOU REPENT TO GOD THAT YOU ARE A SINNER IM AFRAID THAT YOU WILL SPEND AN ETERNITY IN HELL. BUT YOU WILL NOT BE ALONE. IM SURE YOUR FRIENDS WILL JOIN YOU THERE IN THE END! YOU WILL REMEMBER THIS WARNING!
shandelable 1 year ago
If you have an abortion you are a criminal.
bnelson33186 1 year ago
Abortion kills innocent babies.
It is murder. REPENT AND STOP
KILLING BABIES.
2000yrCatholic 2 years ago 2
O shut up you fanactic
cronusbabycakes 2 years ago
precaution prevents abortion. If abortion was illegal, perhaps people would act more responsible, knowing that a quick fix isn't an option. Ever heard of adoption?
mike852846 2 years ago 2
A woman is always the Victim of Abortion. The 'Doctor' is the muderer. Women are never told that their lives will be ruined after an abortion. They are not told that they will be 6 times more likely to commit suicide. They are not told that they may have problems bonding with future children. The woman is always the victim. She will suffer greater having the abortion than she will ever suffer in jail. She already torments herself over her decision.
bobbybrady8 2 years ago
...her decision.
headchew 2 years ago
chicken s answer. b a man.
bobbybrady8 2 years ago
It was her fucking decision you dipshit, you said it yourself. The doctor is no more guilty of murder than a guard dog being guilty of assault when it bites a burglar. You selfishly decide to enter into that situation, then that's your look-out. The only "Victim of Abortion" is the unborn baby.
headchew 2 years ago
Abortion is the biggest joke on women there is. A sick joke. Her decision usually comes from her boyfriend. It usually is not her 'choice' at all. There are two victims from abortion. 1 dies and the other is injured for life. You are correct in some points but error in others. Abortion is a terrible tragedy in America.
bobbybrady8 2 years ago
Arbortion is terrible. The women who choose to 'get rid' for selfish reasons will never have my sympathy. On the other hand, those who are bullied or forced into the situation against their will or better judgement have my sympathy whole-heartedly. Still, if they have any choice in the matter, regardless of the circumstances, they should not take away the chance of a life that's meant to be.
headchew 2 years ago
The women are scared. They feel trapped and usually the man involved does not want to have the child and she feels she cannot do it alone. Yes there are those women who choose for selfish reasons but I think that number is really small in comparrison. If more women knew about CRISIS PREGANCY CENTERS they would know they have somewhere to turn. Most Crisis Pregnancy Centers do post abortive counseling. Women need LOTS of counseling after having an abortion.
bobbybrady8 2 years ago
don't generalise.
headchew 2 years ago
hey if you dont believe me spend some time in front of some clinics. it is sad man. it is sad.
bobbybrady8 2 years ago
that's generalsing. You only get whiners at protests.
headchew 2 years ago
i dont protest. i sidewalk counsel. there is HUGE difference.
bobbybrady8 2 years ago
Is it not a form of protestation? Look man, I think we're barking up the same tree, the right one- with slightly different motivation. Abortion is ultimately wrong but I can't blame anyone for considering it in particular circumstances.
headchew 2 years ago
My belief is this: "Every child a wanted child, every mother a willing mother."
To all you pro-lifers, I guess it's better that children be born to be abused and neglected, or discarded in a dumpster as soon as their born. Because the BABY doesn't matter. Just the fetus.
OkamiNoYume 2 years ago
we need to repeal the hyde amendment so poor women can afford abortions.
leiapeison 2 years ago
Good that kind of scum deserve to go to jail! Murdering mothers are criminals!!
JohananRaatz 2 years ago
Do not kill unborn babies.
gnamp 2 years ago 5
wat if they are to be born into a shit environ ment without happiness like underaged parents Huh wat then??
venthesen 2 years ago
If your parents had been underaged etc. do you think it would have been for the best if they'd executed you?
headchew 2 years ago
hell yeh why da fuck would i an indian-canadian want to live in the lowest and poorest of conditions, and have to struggle with the shit my parents would go through, i'd probably say "if u couldn't care for me why did u have me born". Now if they were rich or summat then it'd be a different story or even midddle class
venthesen 2 years ago
I'm SURE you're not that shallow.
headchew 2 years ago
ur mom is shallow, i would never want to live ino a poor family of underage parents as they will get screwed most their life, if u think u could live like that than ur fooling ur self
venthesen 2 years ago
Who wants to be poor? Nobody. But that is still no excuse to wipe out a human life. Some of the finest minds who ever lived come from abject poverty. Imagine a world where everyone's destiny was decided for them before they are born, and action taken to prevent them becoming everything they could possibly be by annihilating them all in utero. You shouldn't be fighting for that reality.
headchew 2 years ago
Death is better then a life full of shit. Answer the question would u want to be born into a family that cant feed u properly or expects u to possibly die
venthesen 2 years ago
You don't understand the value of life. I pity you for that.
headchew 2 years ago
teh value of life i know the value to a much further extent then u, wat one can do with their lives, kill, or create. U dont understand that these innocent kids will be better off dead then being born becuase the lives they will live will be unbearable. Ur basically saying its ok for Poor people to have 7-8 kids
venthesen 2 years ago
No I'm not. Don't twist what I'm saying you ignorant fucking sneak. I'm saying it's not ok to kill. No one is better off dead.
headchew 2 years ago
i will kick ur ass if i eer see u, ass hole. No one is ebtter off dead, u prove dmy point, u would rather pooor families have 8-9 kids over them being aborted. I aint twisting ur words u just fail at life and contradict ur self. Plenty r better off dead. U rn' indian and can never understand ur just a fuckin ass who is being bested by a 16 year old kid
venthesen 2 years ago
keep telling yourself that, dimwit. 16? I'm disappointed. Don't take your inferiority out on me, just keep trying- you're life may be worth something some day. I'd hate for you to be the exception to everything I've said...
headchew 2 years ago
instead of standing ur ground fuck heads like u act like homo's u dont even know my stand point. I have lived in a world where people i know would have been better off dead. u shit fuck
venthesen 2 years ago
you are very silly.
headchew 2 years ago
whereas u are a narrow minded shit who has never looked at abortion through a poor person's view
venthesen 2 years ago
You don't know anything about me. You have made assumptions about my race, sexuality, intellect, outlook and financial situation. All I have ever alluded to is my position on the sanctity of life. I know that some people can't see the point of life or the point of trying at anything. I say they are all fools. It's only the whiney ones who see their circumstances as being anything to warrant ending it all. If you don't like your lot, pick yourself up by the bootstraps and improve it. No death.
headchew 2 years ago
nice makin shit up. U think its easy to jsut imirpove ones life but its not. I live in Canada and understand jsut as well just answer this one thing. Do u think 3rd world country men should have 8-9 babies for the sake of ahving 3 survive to provide for them in the future?
venthesen 2 years ago
I haven't made anything up. It's all there for all to see. People should be educated so as not to bring offspring they can't cope with into the world. Genocide is certainly not the solution. I hope you grow up soon- I can't believe you are as old as 16.
headchew 2 years ago
me a dimwit, i ahve surpassed ur knowledge when i was born. I understand abortion kills a living being but u dont know what bringing that child in a shit world can do, and u never will because u r narrow minded
venthesen 2 years ago
my world and your world are actually the same- if you had any sense you would have realised that by now. I can see you are very damaged, but I have hope for you. Give your head a shake and stop being so daft.
headchew 2 years ago
how is it the same, did u grow up as a middle calss men admist a workd of poverty, no u havn't, My hope is given. I have looked at it both ways. U say that we cant take away innocent lives through abortion but in 3rd world nations and some parts of the new world it is desperatly needed as we r doing much worse then taking away innocent lives.
venthesen 2 years ago
killing is not the answer
headchew 2 years ago
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shandelable 1 year ago
@venthesen POOR OR RICH LIFE IS WHAT YOU MAKE IT!! MY MOTHER "ABORTED"/ MURDERED MY BROTHER BUT NOT ME! I HAD A SHIT LIFE BUT WHEN I WAS 16 I MOVED OUT AND I MADE SOMETHING OUT OF MYSELF AND NOW I HAVE MORE MONEY THAN I EVER IMAGINED! AND I HAVE A BEAUTIFUL CHILD WHO WILL HAVE A BETTER LIFE THAN I! EVEN THOUGH I WENT THROUGH 16 YEARS OF SHIT IM GLAD MY MOM DID NOT KILL ME TOO! LIFES WHAT YOU MAKE IT! ABORTION IS MURDER! IF YOUR A WHORE GET ON BIRTH CONTROL! OR ADOPT DONT KILL!
shandelable 1 year ago
@shandelable TURNS OUT UR ASS WAS ONE OF THE LUCKY ONES, A PERSON SMART ENOUGH TO USE THEIR SURROUNDINGS TO THEIR ADVANTAGE AND AGAINST ALL ODDS SUCCEED SO THAT GOD IS LEFT IN AWE. WELL THAT ISN'T THE CASE FOR EVERY ONE MOST KIDS IN UR SITUATION WITH A SINGLE MOTHER WHO TREATS THEM LIKE SHIT END UP DEAD OR MESSED UP IN DRUGS . IF U WERE ABLE TO MAKE ENOUGH $ AT 16 GOOD FOR U U WERE GIFTED WITH BRAINS, not everyone is that lucky. If i killed every terrorist today am i a liberator or murderer?
venthesen 1 year ago
@venthesen
so babies are terrorist?
M0EJ0EKING 9 months ago
@M0EJ0EKING of course not, why would babies be terrorists, if ur trying to compare them to my example (i'm using a different account cuz my shit got hacked) then ur ignorant. I'm not saying lets go kill every baby in the third world, i'm saying educate the parents so they dont have 9-10 babies, in the mean time provide the public with safe and hygenic abortion, because it will always exist, would u have a coat hanger used to do an abortion or medical equipment?
Thesenator64 9 months ago
@Thesenator64
im ignorant??
ok Micheal Jackson calm down
you said if i kill every terrorist are you a liberator or murderer
ummm neither (why the question)
you'd be a freedom fighter
unless you belonged to a faction then you'd be a war hero
to the coat hanger vs abortion clinic id say fuck both
why not educate the kids youth or make em take birth control shots every 3 month tell they are 18
M0EJ0EKING 9 months ago
@M0EJ0EKING calling me MJ shows how little respect for you have for someone who doesn't even exist anymore. Ur idea isn't that bad, but ask urself this, does any 3rd world nation, even canada or usa, have the resources to educate everysingle idiot or make all girls take the pills? No they don't, u need to understand that abortions will always happen, why not make them safe?
Thesenator64 9 months ago
learn how to write.... should you be killed? just becuase you are were not taught how to produce the english langauge correctly?
no. is the correct answer.
bobbybrady8 2 years ago
bitch, it the internet, i dont use grammar, If u r born for the purpose of being able to survive among ur 7 siblings to take care of ur parents then u should not have been born. As an indian canadian,i know, most indian, african, and poor families have 7-8 so that if 5 die atleast 3 will care for them in the future. Why is no the correct answer, why is it wrong to kill, its a crime to bring an innocent baby into a life of hardships which it doesnt deserve, it deserves a fair life lile in canada
venthesen 2 years ago
should we kill all children that are in poverty currently?
bobbybrady8 2 years ago
yes we should, lets us Africa, kids are used for cheap dangerous labor and are mostlikely going to die from aid anyway, so putting them out of their misery is good. Naw i'm jus kidding. Its just there should be laws stopping underaged parents oor parents who aren't financially stable from having kids. Thomas Malthus's theory, more poor kids are born so the " surviving" ones can take care of their parents in the future, thats wat poor people do. It has to stop.
venthesen 2 years ago
look up maafa21 get that film and watch it. slavery is alive and well in the usa....
bobbybrady8 2 years ago
i know it is, but the 1st step to ending slavery is ending 9-10 kids/ family. Out of those kids 4-5 are used for cheap labor which robs them of their youth, they dont deserve to be born into that.
venthesen 2 years ago
work is good for kids. kids need to work more today. all kids do today is seem to play video games. killing innocent life is always wrong. how many familes do you know with 9 kids?
bobbybrady8 2 years ago
dont get me wrong i love the idea of work for kds, but not cheap slave labor with 6 cents per day. As a canadian raised in India i can name around5-8 families with more than 6 kids. Kids should do normal work that builds character not labor that takes away their child hood. And video games teach us a lot.
venthesen 2 years ago
A quick survey of these posts prove the obvious... the issue isn't about the sanctity of life. It is about hating women. If you love life, love all mothers, daughters, and children. I'd start with ending war.
aaauuummmm 2 years ago
hmmmm no, abortion HURTS women. I love women. In the USA alone 4,000 innocent lives are taken by abortion EACH DAY. Since 1973 over 50,000,000 Innocent American lives were killed by abortion. If you add up ALL of the AMERICAN CASUALTIES of war they do not come close to FIFTY MILLION. Abortion is the number one killer of Black Americans.
bobbybrady8 2 years ago
I appreciate your commitment... and so, I hope you'll chase down tobacco companies with even more passion... and then drug companies and doctors... ooooh and mcdonalds, gm, ford, etc. etc.
Your statistics don't justify your actions... if you were 100% committed to life, you'd pursue bigger crimes with more vigor... and so, why do you think you you're so passionate about abortion?
Ans: you get to be right and make women wrong.
aaauuummmm 2 years ago
You know if those women really had abortions I'd rather see them with black hoods on their heads about to face the executioner than see them in mug shots. It's more fitting for monsters like that.
ThomasJS1 2 years ago 2
The Darwin Award goes out to Pro-choice people. Your heritage ends with you! You silly Dodo birds, stop breaking your eggs!
literoad 2 years ago
They should not face prison.
They should FRY in the electric chair. Bunch of baby killing monsters.
ThomasJS1 2 years ago
Stupidest argument ever. That's like saying the US shouldn't have outlawed slavery because slave owners would then become criminals. Uhh.. yeah, thats the idea! Nobody should have the right to murder in America.
dacherry 2 years ago
true
WulfgarCommand 2 years ago
Let the woman who willingly participates with an illegal abortion be the same as the doctor who preformed the procedure.
jerrydonmckenzie 2 years ago
This is the stupidest thing I have ever seen in my life.
chaiseige 3 years ago
Is an unborn child a person? Of course he or she is indeed a person. Killing a person is wrong and it diminishes everyone involved. Of course society must stand ready to care for these children. In America, there are huge waiting lists to adopt unwanted babies and many charities that devote themselves to caring for children. But the basic fact is that there is no justification for taking a human life, especially the most innocent and helpless.
lazyal007 3 years ago
Look, I understand that it is killing, but do you want US to be like China and India where the overpopulation cripples the economy? It is for the sake of environment and economy.
Look at European countries where they allow abortion, their country is rich and advanced. Sometimes you have to do the wrong thing before doing the right thing.
what if nobody wants to adopt the child, what do you do? dump it in a dumpster? What if the girl conceived because of rape? Just Let the women choose.
IsaaxTeddy 3 years ago
These "rich and advanced" European nations are quickly disappearing on account of thier high abortion rates and low birth rates, given these nations are built heavily on extravagant social programs which require constant or increasing population levels, many European nations have taken to importing large numbers of immigrants (mostly Muslim) to pick up the slack. By the end of the century few will be recognizable as European, let alone "rich" or "advanced".
davidcorigliano 2 years ago 2
Response meant for Isaax Teddy
davidcorigliano 2 years ago
Oh my God!!!! Let the states decide for themselves!!!!!!!!
How did the 10th amendment ever get passed!!!!!!
jerasdad 3 years ago
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good, sluts should be treated like criminals :D mwahahahaha
musicxisxlifexx03 3 years ago
Prolifers are no more forcing there views on other people than making knocking over a liquor store illegal is forcing anti-armed robbery views on other people. Abortion is offense against reason itself. Google pro-life atheists. Such a thing would not be possible if anti-abortion were merely a religious artifact. And once again we hear the UNSUBSTANTIATED charge that serious pro-lifers want to put women in prison.
swwaddell 3 years ago
This prolifers forcing there views on other people. I may not personally believe in abortion but I can't force my views on other people. i have to say if Roe V wade was overturned you will have women either doing abortions them selves and injure and bleed to death or women dying from infecttion due to having abortion in back alleys in unsantiary condtions. I wish the government would keep religion out of it. I may try to talk women out of it but if abortion is their final decision so be it.
grobaniteforever 3 years ago 5
Excellent! Criminalizing reproductive choices could lead to this scenario under McCain. Thank you!
gurlzone 3 years ago
Again, looking at pre-Roe v. Wade prosecution shows there is no reason to expect jail time for women--and pre-Roe v. Wade society was lots more stringent.
As far as shortages of doctors: a). If doctors are facing real jail time and loss of license, support for abortion will fizzle fast among them and b.) doctors that do abortions extensively tend to be the bottom of the barrel anyway.
swwaddell 3 years ago
Pro-life people keep saying that abortion in murder, so I think it is reasonable to expect that if abortion is outlawed women will be put in jail for the same amount of time as people convicted of murder. Also, if doctors go to jail for performing illegal abortions, who will women turn for their medical care? We already have a shortage of OB/GYNs due to high malpractice insurance costs.
kcope2000 3 years ago 2
McCain and his ilk don't believe women NEED healthcare.
Colorado plans to charge women who miscarry or suffer stillbirths with MURDER if their state abortion ban gets OK'ed.
Are really people so perverted and self-righteous that they want to see women IMPRISONED FOR LIFE because of an act of nature that is completely out of anyone's control?
BonzoGal1980 3 years ago 2
What is your documentation Bozogirl1980???
jerasdad 3 years ago
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Well, yeah, the Left are the fearmongers because there is no precedent for locking up women who get abortions. A born baby can't survive without someone feeding it, so the support-of-the-woman objection is nonsense. And just as no one expected abolitionists to pay to free slaves, so it is ridiculous to expect pro-lifers to pay child support.
swwaddell 3 years ago
The left are not the fearmongers, the right wing are the fearmongers. Abortion is not murder, a fetus can't live without the life support of a woman. If you don't like abortion then don't have one but stay the heck out of other's business and body. Unless your willing to pay child support for all the unwanted babies stop trying to force women to keep unwanted pregnancies, it's their business.
msteeleart 3 years ago 8
@msteeleart IF YOU KILL A BABY IT IS MURDER YOU DUMB FUCK! UNWANTED BABIES IS WHAT ADOPTION IS FOR!
shandelable 1 year ago
@shandelable You're the dumbfuck. You ever have a baby? It is not a baby when it is in the womb, it is a fetus, you retard. I will not be told what to do with my body. It is my body, if you don't like abortion, then don't have one, asshole!
infinitecharms 1 year ago
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Some of us need to put down the bong and copy of The Handmaid's Tale. Just look at prosecution before Roe v. Wade--Prosecutors went after the abortionist, not the woman.
swwaddell 3 years ago
This is fearmongering, which the Left is all to ready to accuse pro-lifers of doing. Before Roe v. Wade, it was ABORTIONISTS who were prosecuted for the abortions, not the women. In the states that will ban abortion if that happened, it will STILL be the abortionists who will be prosecuted.
mlbalan74 3 years ago
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"protects woman's right to choose"
More like gives woman the right to murder. Would I not get in trouble if I punched a pregnant woman in the stomach? What happened to my right to choose then?
JelllyRape 3 years ago
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They should do time.
They need to do time.
Abortion is murder.
Those who murder go to jail.
xxfairytalelifexx 3 years ago
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Your mother should have aborted you.
metalfairy54 3 years ago
Well thats mature
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xxfairytalelifexx 3 years ago
Then so should every man who joins the military.
shaudee67 3 years ago
beautiful. I hope it never comes to this.
amyislu 3 years ago 2
Amazing. Women take heed.
Pugzz 3 years ago 3