yeah my friend had to studying world music at the UofM told me that before playing a song on the drums they have to be able to sing the parts, that way they know exactly what to play, it's like memorizing sheet music almost
Is it safe to call this complicated scat singing? Does Konnakol mostly happen in groups of 2 or more? There is something Jazz like to it, is it improvised?
@masivekill yeah... you're from the Philippines.. you shouldnt talk shit about other countries and poverty.. Phillippines poverty incidence rate is the same as India's.
Ps. India has 69 billionaires... Phillipines has what 4-5?? hahahah
So what I'm trying to say is... shut the fuck up.
@joltfrey As a westerner who has seen first-hand the destruction wrought by globalist capitalism, I wouldn't think either one of you would want to be bragging about whose country has the largest number of corrupt materialist scumbags chasing dollars. India's best legacy, like all nations, is in the contributions made to arts and culture. As a cheap labor resource to outsourcing white-collar criminals in America...well, I wouldn't be bragging about that.
@cashberg i'm not indian bro i'm Canadian. my family goes on vacations all the time so i've visited both countries and have developed a sort of a bond with india. it was needless for him to drop that comment on this video, which is what pissed me off more, actually. i totally agree with you on the amount of materialistic money minded scumbags there, however.
I have this dvd...probably the most remarkable music dvd I've ever see, and I've seen a whole lot. The best parts are simply seeing how much Shawn and Jonas get into what they're doing. Its all about the love of it, and nothing else for them. RIP Shawn.
Not tring to be rude. Its more than beat boxing or scat singing. Its rythmic carnatic classical music. It takes years of practice and discpline to achieve this.
Not tring to be rude. Its more than beat boxing or scat singing. Its rythimic carnatic classical music. It takes years of practice and discpline to achieve this.
Normal scat is like just fast rythmic repitition Of Words such as "sha, boo, bee, boop bap bop,bup dap dop doop," blah blah, but Ive never heard indian scat before, so im guessing its the same perspective just in the indian terms of the words i said,
Not actually...it's way of rhytmh (and melodic) improvising that was invented centuries ago.
Basics = 1= Da ("full note in western music) 2= Taka 3= TakiTa ("triplet") 4= TakaDimi or TakaJuna (accented Ju "shuffle" and 5=Ta Di Gi Na Dum (double Di = 6, double Ta and Di = 7)
With this system you can relatively easily understand polyrhythms and odd time singatures.
i was waiting for the guitars to join in ....at one point it just sounded like he was saying take it take it take it take it take it take it take it take it take it take it take it take it take it take it take it take it take it take it take it take it take it take it take it
they sound so freakin cool. That must have taken years to get their mouths to move that fast!! That guy with the guitar is laughing the whole time!lol
Konnakol is so cool! Does anybody know of any other vocal percussion techniques (besides beatboxing, of course)? I know of North Inidan 'bols', but that is as you may know merely a technique for learning how to play tablas.
So, are there any other traditions around the world like this that you know of?
Yes, I understand that it's not scat singing. The title is meant to convey an approximation of what Konnakol is so that a westerner unfamiliar with it might be interested in checking it out.
@sybil721vane most of it. About 90-95% of what you hear in Indian Classical music is improvised. There are some pre-defined sections which form the main theme around which the musicians then improvise.
Well some of this is probably improvised that's true but some isn't. It's also not random syllables in konnakol but DA for one, DAKA for two, TAKITA for three, TAKADIMI for four and DADIGINADUM for five or something lika that with variations.
Its Jonas Hellborg and the Vinnakrum brothers i think its from the Paris DVD check out Jonas Hellborgs work for music with Konnakol singing especially his albums Icon, Kali's Son, and Good People In Times of evil and MyShawnLaneMusicVideos youtube page
Are these guys former members of John McLaughlin's Shakti? This is the actual beginning of track La Danse Du Bonheur from 1976 album A Handful Of Beauty..
No, i don't believe they are ex-Shakti members. This vocal work isn't unique to these guys, it's how Indian musicians learn the rhythmic cycles used in their music.
Well, most members of this group (including the two white guys not singing) have played with McLaughlin. The Indian guy to the left is V. Selvaganesh who played in Remember Shakti. But as cashberg says, this is also traditional Carnatic music (konnakol) from South India.
this is amazin! the first time i seen this i found it kinda funny but now i can just listen to the performance and feel awe! these guys are good they can play a great show and any one can enjoy it! its some of the purest talent around! thanks for posting this! p.s. my mate gave me the shawn lane paris dvd i need to watch it soon!
Actually, no. Your 'racial hypersensitivity' will cause you to menstruate, whine and say "ignorant" whenever someone cracks a harmless joke. Congratulations. You've been programmed accordingly. Now say "ignorant" again and tell everyone how 'open minded' you are.
RoofFiddler...There is no such thing as harmless racism, and if you don't already understand that basic truth it's doubtful anything I say will help. But you sound like an intelligent enough person, so I'm confident that you already know quite well just how wrong you are, despite your claims to the contrary.
2 things ...one this isnt scating this is indian solfege i think north indian they are using the scales ex. ta ki tuh is 3 ta ka is two, to the one saying this is better than pussy jazz scating..im a jazz singer at newenglandconservatory and i study north indian and south african rythmn and jaz scating is endlessly difficult people shouldnt judge stuff they know nothing about because pussy jazz scatters who know what they are doing will come and eat themtet teh kat ta ga di gina dah my friends.
yeah my friend had to studying world music at the UofM told me that before playing a song on the drums they have to be able to sing the parts, that way they know exactly what to play, it's like memorizing sheet music almost
McZebra 1 week ago
Are you kidding? This is the AWESOME part of YouTube.
Sleyah 1 month ago
im in that shit part of youtube again
liamthomas07 1 month ago
ОХУ...ТЬ!!!!
Goroh13 1 month ago
.................IM THE SCATMAN
ILikeGamesAlot5 1 month ago
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Hey no one has recognised Shawn Lane?
SagitGuitar 3 months ago
its funny how at some parts it sounds as though they are argueing
topdog2328 3 months ago
I've never heard something like this before, interesting
Lanakikuta 3 months ago
@Lanakikuta Louie Armstrong formulated this kind of singing called "Scat Singing" It's awesome....SCAT SINGING, check it out
jackiescorpio 1 month ago in playlist More videos from cashberg
Is it safe to call this complicated scat singing? Does Konnakol mostly happen in groups of 2 or more? There is something Jazz like to it, is it improvised?
Lefty70 4 months ago
simply amazing :)
Surottam 4 months ago
mind blowing
urbansanyasi 7 months ago in playlist KONNAKOL
is this good or bad? the truth is that i've never heard sth like this before... and i like it :)
Verdagol11 7 months ago
sounds like there talking.....
xbabyho12 7 months ago
india is a country of poverty they couldnt even afford to buy a basic drumkit
masivekill 8 months ago
@masivekill yeah... you're from the Philippines.. you shouldnt talk shit about other countries and poverty.. Phillippines poverty incidence rate is the same as India's.
Ps. India has 69 billionaires... Phillipines has what 4-5?? hahahah
So what I'm trying to say is... shut the fuck up.
joltfrey 7 months ago 2
@joltfrey As a westerner who has seen first-hand the destruction wrought by globalist capitalism, I wouldn't think either one of you would want to be bragging about whose country has the largest number of corrupt materialist scumbags chasing dollars. India's best legacy, like all nations, is in the contributions made to arts and culture. As a cheap labor resource to outsourcing white-collar criminals in America...well, I wouldn't be bragging about that.
cashberg 7 months ago
@cashberg i'm not indian bro i'm Canadian. my family goes on vacations all the time so i've visited both countries and have developed a sort of a bond with india. it was needless for him to drop that comment on this video, which is what pissed me off more, actually. i totally agree with you on the amount of materialistic money minded scumbags there, however.
joltfrey 7 months ago
adi thala rulezzz yeah!!! :P
scullshot 8 months ago
We're learning polyrhythms this way in my rythm class. really interresting and intuitive!
str4to 8 months ago
=0 kiddalie a doggalie big!! Lol that's funny
LearnYourChihuahua 8 months ago
this is awesome
sadykhovful 8 months ago
O_O
kittylogg 9 months ago
Reminds me of patapon!
mooshimashiroom 9 months ago
shawn!!
oscarsstuff 10 months ago
you can tell the lead vocalist is rolllling in pussy
Bashy14 10 months ago 2
whats that thing takuduruduru takuduruduruduru takuduruduruduru da da da
did i made my ponit?
Verdagol11 10 months ago
i can't believe how does reggeatton exists lol
Verdagol11 10 months ago
talk about rhythm...lmao
kirbz01 11 months ago
I have this dvd...probably the most remarkable music dvd I've ever see, and I've seen a whole lot. The best parts are simply seeing how much Shawn and Jonas get into what they're doing. Its all about the love of it, and nothing else for them. RIP Shawn.
Kingding6 11 months ago
rave rave rave, damn emo music
noScopeThePope187 11 months ago
the bassman is just chillin out man
Phipification 1 year ago
SUPER!!!
BrandonCarmona 1 year ago
OMG LOL Я под столом =) Scatman John нервоно курит в сторонке
DennyDJ1976 1 year ago
holy SHIT
that is cool.
00LovelyStuff00 1 year ago
awesome
taemevoli 1 year ago
imagine this guy tonguing your fanny lol
mrsam 1 year ago 2
I was already going nuts while watching this video but then I saw Shawn Lane... I think I just jizzed in my pants, lol.
NickTup 1 year ago
Awesome. Mind if i sample this?
Tasbo1982 1 year ago
@Tasbo1982 Not up to me.
cashberg 1 year ago
@Tasbo1982 Just do it. Don't worry bout all that stuff. Heard of 'Girl Talk'?
tayloreh 1 year ago
the guy with the beard OWNS!!!!!!
hiphopcowz 1 year ago
tatatgrtatgrtatgrttatataatatagratata!!!!!!
echoedsun 1 year ago
genius
men1100tim 1 year ago
I've been myself learning the konnakol for the past few years, and I know how much practice it takes... ;)
It's always such a pleasure to listen to you guys! Bravo!
Cheers,
Raphaëlle Brochet
raphaellesound 1 year ago
i'm learning basics of this tomorrow!!!
shruti0488 1 year ago
and people wonder how indians talk so fast...
mynameisalexyu 1 year ago
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Not tring to be rude. Its more than beat boxing or scat singing. Its rythmic carnatic classical music. It takes years of practice and discpline to achieve this.
punkkiranpunk 1 year ago
Not tring to be rude. Its more than beat boxing or scat singing. Its rythimic carnatic classical music. It takes years of practice and discpline to achieve this.
punkkiranpunk 1 year ago 11
@punkkiranpunk I only wrote that to help people find it who might not know the term konnakol.
cashberg 1 year ago 4
@cashberg thanks for that
corticotrophin 1 year ago
@punkkiranpunk
sure beat boxing and scat is something small babies can do!! haha!!
CrispinDan 5 months ago
WHAT THE.
jwmovies 1 year ago
the roots of beatboxin
erickBUENO2009 1 year ago
tht is nice
xx7Kid7xx 1 year ago
konokal my friends.....beautiful
fess04 1 year ago
lol its almost like a conversation
SuperCrab22 1 year ago
if my mouth moved that fast i'd drum with my teeth!
SuperCrab22 1 year ago
Was expecting a different kind of scat
lordfancylad 1 year ago
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@cashberg Selvaganesh was in shakti actually
woodros 1 year ago
@anujbhatnagar5, please post the links to music that you have produced, arranged, or performed. Otherwise, shut the f**K up!
lf4317 1 year ago
"The Argument" - at 3:35 - so cool :-) hahahaha
toranamunter 1 year ago
this rocks! I love it!
velvetpaws999 1 year ago
I see Shawn Lane in there...not surprising considering how great he was. This is amazing stuff!!!
jwandhistools 1 year ago
They're like the System of a Down of India! Nothing in common except that they are CRAZY!
krazykrammer 1 year ago
excellent guys !!
Coin3103 1 year ago
From 4m 10s to end, Ive heard this section before on a Shakti track - is it the same guy with Shakti ??
Tang37 1 year ago
@Tang37 - Yes, it is :)
Tang37 1 year ago
this is intense and AWESOME! :D
0justBETHANY 1 year ago
This is awsome.
MrCockSlut 1 year ago
how old is this??
ChelleyFresh01 1 year ago
OMG!!!!!!!!
TheAron961 1 year ago
BULLSHIT
therandomboy500 1 year ago
this is disturbing
balkyboi 1 year ago
this is the fastest malbar LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
darymalebary 1 year ago
коннакол
tonikkkkkk 1 year ago
Shawn Lane got into some different kind of stuff during the latter part of his life.
churchesablaze666 1 year ago
what exactly are they saying? or is it just a form of beatbox?
surenothug 1 year ago
scat....
jerzkid87 1 year ago
Normal scat is like just fast rythmic repitition Of Words such as "sha, boo, bee, boop bap bop,bup dap dop doop," blah blah, but Ive never heard indian scat before, so im guessing its the same perspective just in the indian terms of the words i said,
BenjiSpeaks 1 year ago
Sort of. The syllables they use are specific to the groupings of the notes. Such as ta ka di mi for groups of 4.
Hobble 1 year ago
Not actually...it's way of rhytmh (and melodic) improvising that was invented centuries ago.
Basics = 1= Da ("full note in western music) 2= Taka 3= TakiTa ("triplet") 4= TakaDimi or TakaJuna (accented Ju "shuffle" and 5=Ta Di Gi Na Dum (double Di = 6, double Ta and Di = 7)
With this system you can relatively easily understand polyrhythms and odd time singatures.
RedPetrol76 1 year ago 16
@RedPetrol76 learnt that at school by my music teacher :)
callmo123 1 year ago
@surenothug it's konakol - vocal percussion.
Drumfusions 1 year ago
i was waiting for the guitars to join in ....at one point it just sounded like he was saying take it take it take it take it take it take it take it take it take it take it take it take it take it take it take it take it take it take it take it take it take it take it take it
dsouzand 2 years ago
they sound so freakin cool. That must have taken years to get their mouths to move that fast!! That guy with the guitar is laughing the whole time!lol
cooldoode13 2 years ago 4
If you feel the need to post some kind of racist bullshit on here, please DIAF instead.
cashberg 2 years ago
Konnakol is so cool! Does anybody know of any other vocal percussion techniques (besides beatboxing, of course)? I know of North Inidan 'bols', but that is as you may know merely a technique for learning how to play tablas.
So, are there any other traditions around the world like this that you know of?
oabrahamsson 2 years ago
I'm a Scatman! :-)
Very cool!
Verigorm 2 years ago
FANTASTIQUE !
eoncues 2 years ago
amazing
princedrops 2 years ago
tadin :-)
Cema23 2 years ago
awesome
statusmani 2 years ago 2
these guys are great, loved when shawn and jonas played with them, it was magical
AtmaRising 2 years ago
lol
he just started to scat sing and he is sweating ice cubes
CaltTUBE 2 years ago
hhaha no, they've been playing all night.
thetopface 2 years ago
there is almost an infinite variation of scat, it's mind bogglingly amazing
linebeck222 2 years ago 2
hilariuos
AndrewGar24 2 years ago
thums up.....
anujbhatnagar5 2 years ago
thts not scat singing...wat they r doing is repeating 'TAAL'... which is an integral part of indian classical music...
anujbhatnagar5 2 years ago 2
Yes, I understand that it's not scat singing. The title is meant to convey an approximation of what Konnakol is so that a westerner unfamiliar with it might be interested in checking it out.
cashberg 2 years ago 9
they did good
cherrypoper111 2 years ago
i use konnokol as my main way for counting rhythm. its really so easy.
drewhet 2 years ago
INDIANS WOULD.
wildchild7290 2 years ago
rofl so perfect
snooks11 2 years ago
LOL! I Love It! Inspirational :P!
Ashwin
AshwinManOfSteel 2 years ago
SHAWN LANE
AlexGronstad 2 years ago
Out of this world!! AWESOME
akoijam 2 years ago
funniest shit i ever seen, wtf
head2fiststyle 2 years ago
is this improvised?
sybil721vane 2 years ago
@sybil721vane most of it. About 90-95% of what you hear in Indian Classical music is improvised. There are some pre-defined sections which form the main theme around which the musicians then improvise.
AnandSuresh 2 years ago
wow, that's amazing!
sybil721vane 2 years ago
what's "scat"?
nosexinindia 2 years ago
improvised singing
SchoolofRockNRoll 2 years ago
scat singing is vocal improvisation with random vocables and syllables or without words at all
chemprescigla 2 years ago
Well some of this is probably improvised that's true but some isn't. It's also not random syllables in konnakol but DA for one, DAKA for two, TAKITA for three, TAKADIMI for four and DADIGINADUM for five or something lika that with variations.
gurra9 2 years ago
youre on the internet, look it up.
k1llak4y 2 years ago
gr8
bubnjarovski 2 years ago
I wanna see the lyrics
vfw87 2 years ago 4
These guys ought to be lawyers.
SholomGootzeit 2 years ago 2
@SholomGootzeit lol!!!
AnandSuresh 2 years ago
I wanna see the lyrics!!!!! xD
It's gonna be.... :D xD
nuKal4metal 2 years ago
I'd like to see the Jonas Brothers fuckin' try that...
Burianu767 2 years ago 26
They re-use syllables way too much. their scat consists of about 5 syllables. it sounds really good though.
I3ojazz 2 years ago
konnakol's more structured than scat - every rhythm has a vocal equivalent
thekev506 2 years ago 3
it's not about the syllables, it's about how they are accented and create crosses and temporary metric modulations.
wanderingmenstruals 2 years ago
amazing
jeffersonjefferson20 2 years ago
Its called rhythm you non musicians.
SIGNATURESOUNDZ 3 years ago
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who'd of thought that they would still have an accent while scat singing?!?! that's like hearing there accent while they snore!
eatmytool1 3 years ago
That is one of the stupidest things I have ever read.
Love,
Aaron
PedrotheWombat 3 years ago 7
i second that
thekev506 3 years ago
what is wrong with you? What you just said doesn't make any senses. lol
thecoolmex 2 years ago
Just listen to 'The Conference' from Nitin Sawhney's album 'Beyond Skin' - absolutely amazing if you like this.
jmsbk12345 3 years ago
awesome!
cindylynne66 3 years ago
could someone please tell me the name of this band/ that guy!!! plz
pendool 3 years ago
Its Jonas Hellborg and the Vinnakrum brothers i think its from the Paris DVD check out Jonas Hellborgs work for music with Konnakol singing especially his albums Icon, Kali's Son, and Good People In Times of evil and MyShawnLaneMusicVideos youtube page
jartravious 3 years ago
its also a method of teaching rhythm without the need for an instrument
cornrig 3 years ago 4
I wish I had a tongue like that.
jaminhubner 3 years ago
Are these guys former members of John McLaughlin's Shakti? This is the actual beginning of track La Danse Du Bonheur from 1976 album A Handful Of Beauty..
conqa 3 years ago
No, i don't believe they are ex-Shakti members. This vocal work isn't unique to these guys, it's how Indian musicians learn the rhythmic cycles used in their music.
cashberg 2 years ago
@conqa:
Well, most members of this group (including the two white guys not singing) have played with McLaughlin. The Indian guy to the left is V. Selvaganesh who played in Remember Shakti. But as cashberg says, this is also traditional Carnatic music (konnakol) from South India.
oabrahamsson 2 years ago
@cashberg Selvaganesh was in shakti actually
woodros 1 year ago
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@cashberg Selvaganesh was in shakti actually
woodros 1 year ago
Dang, now that's pro.
xDirtyherox 3 years ago
This is actually meant to assist in dance, in which the "scat singer" improvises a kind of drum beat based on the movements of the dancer.
phlegmuffin 3 years ago 2
this is amazin! the first time i seen this i found it kinda funny but now i can just listen to the performance and feel awe! these guys are good they can play a great show and any one can enjoy it! its some of the purest talent around! thanks for posting this! p.s. my mate gave me the shawn lane paris dvd i need to watch it soon!
gillenpantera 3 years ago
BLAOW
bigandymc12 3 years ago
that will be a good one for my drums
atd87atd 3 years ago
excellent!
lovekurt 3 years ago
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This is what it sounded like when I was playing a video game at 7-11, spilled my drink all over the console and the owner started hollering at me.
RoofFiddler 3 years ago
RoofFiddler...I feel sorry for you. Your narrow and ignorant world-view will cause you pain throughout your life.
bcbarrin 3 years ago
Actually, no. Your 'racial hypersensitivity' will cause you to menstruate, whine and say "ignorant" whenever someone cracks a harmless joke. Congratulations. You've been programmed accordingly. Now say "ignorant" again and tell everyone how 'open minded' you are.
RoofFiddler 3 years ago
RoofFiddler...There is no such thing as harmless racism, and if you don't already understand that basic truth it's doubtful anything I say will help. But you sound like an intelligent enough person, so I'm confident that you already know quite well just how wrong you are, despite your claims to the contrary.
bcbarrin 3 years ago 6
epic win!
koolaidolio 3 years ago 3
He must be one hell of a great musician!
cashberg 3 years ago
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I laughed. People think it's music, but they're actually arguing.
lawl
ashflower 3 years ago
That is WELL GOOD MAN !! WICKED !..
philipairwalk 3 years ago 2
exellent, great,awesome... how can they do something so well from something so simple?!
jose044 3 years ago 2
ITS MR T!!
gamepro9505 3 years ago
Lmao..Nice one !
philipairwalk 3 years ago
Insanely cool performance.
linduxed 3 years ago 3
absolutely good can't stop watchin....
Sultanaisha 3 years ago 3
simply amazing!
musikid2 3 years ago 3
They look like North Indians but what they say is South Indian rhythmic terms.
nizmo423 3 years ago
that was strange..
zlosiej 3 years ago
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fffhfhfjhghjfhujg is all i hear
tdunayer 3 years ago
gratz champion that's the point they are using their voice as an instrument see it as a super beatbox if you absolutely need an american term for it.
patnais102 3 years ago
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fffhfhfjhghjfhujg is all i hear
tdunayer 3 years ago
I have respect for these guys! woohoo!
jazzalara 3 years ago
They are so intense!
pavelow235 3 years ago
2 things ...one this isnt scating this is indian solfege i think north indian they are using the scales ex. ta ki tuh is 3 ta ka is two, to the one saying this is better than pussy jazz scating..im a jazz singer at newenglandconservatory and i study north indian and south african rythmn and jaz scating is endlessly difficult people shouldnt judge stuff they know nothing about because pussy jazz scatters who know what they are doing will come and eat themtet teh kat ta ga di gina dah my friends.
rufromcanada 4 years ago
this is so fun to listen to!
barbeq67 4 years ago
This is an amazing performance!
Scat singing just makes me smile so much
RoisinCampbell 4 years ago
This is awesome!
tractorKing 4 years ago
the bomb. exciting to hear such imagination when it comes to rhythm. Western music could use more of that stuff.
BuffaloLip 4 years ago 2
"Western music could use more of that stuff."
But we know it never will :(
Mapex101 2 years ago
@Mapex101 check out Pete Lockett and Steve Smith works if you are interested in kanokkol.
AnandSuresh 2 years ago
hehe, konnakol argument!
what skill!
lukagerm 4 years ago
Great!
NatalieSavelyeva 4 years ago 2
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA
666SLAY3R666 4 years ago
WOW!!!
brokenchild41 4 years ago 2
Bravo selva.Perfect!
PERCUSSIONIST ALPAY®
alpaykeles 4 years ago