Undercover Cop surveilling Otago NORML 420 protest Feb 2008

[theHOUSEvlog]

Paranoid? 

[giblvnsltins]

Why would anyway ever want to take photos of the Richardson building? Clearly a cop.

[redtuss0ck]

In 1988 Scarlet et al reported a 44% reduction in synapses, and significant decreases in the neuronal volumn of the hippocampus in rats given THC orally for 90 days. You might like to have a look at Schwartz and Co's work on short term memory loss in Adolescents circ 1986.

[redtuss0ck]

As for the "Study", I.e. research. Read up on Herkenham circ 1990 and Volkov et el 1991, in which Herkenham localised Canniboid receptors in the brain, and Volkov confirmed (using PET) an effect of decreased cerebellar metabolism which could account for THC's disruption of proprioception and motor coordination in Chronic users.

[Fuctmentality]

We were debating? Where was I?

The Herkenham paper you mention only explains the mechanisms behind the effects of "getting high" at least if it's the same paper I read in middle school. You mind telling me If it is, cause I kind of don't want to wast my time getting a hold of it if I already read it., Also if it is the same paper you mind telling me if it would actually be worth it to look into the other research you mentioned, 'cause I'm only really interstedi n long term harm.

[redtuss0ck]

Cant remeber huh?

[Fuctmentality]

No I can't I read it over a decade ago.

[redtuss0ck]

A recent study conducted by Dr. Gabriella Gobbi, a psychiatric researcher from the Research Institute of the McGill University Health Centre, suggests cannabis harming young brains much more than earlier thought. The study has appeared in Neurobiology of Disease, (ANI). So studies do show that there are long term effects to young people who consume cannabis daily. I offer no opinion, other than to point that out and am not suggesting a certain lifestyle one way or the other.

[Fuctmentality]

Thanks for the info, I really do want to know what the harms come with using the drug. Do you know of any negative harms of adults using the drug?

[redtuss0ck]

Yep good question ... and I am not sure there has been much research on Older Adults that started using THC as recreational drug after full brain development. The other clouding issue is the strength or dose differences of inhaled THC today as compared to decades ago. The modern THC producing plants are a considerably stronger source of THC today.

[abcd665ftw]

hey for all you fuck tards that cant believe that this guys telling the truth cops are undercover a lot and sent to go try and buy weed and narc happens at the local music festival each year over by the e tard stage theres 4+ undercovers asking anybody that looks sketch for tabs but eh what do fuckers ion youtube care :O

[ErieParties]

if I was there I would of walk over with my video cam and asked him who he is and what he is doing???

[robdyr1]

haha bro i reckon that its's so obvious aye

[FuentesSantos]

Yeah. Paranoia.

[kiwicreator548]

Yeah, you found my partner.

But I have been surveilling since the beginning of the year and I no for a fact you have not realized I have been yet. And I bet you won't uncover me either.

I will get all the evidence to lock the lot of you up and then your dealers and growers as well.

Enjoy freedom whilst you still have it... Taste that? Yeah thats prison, and thats how close to it you are.

[darkrx777]

You say enjoy FREEDOM, Some fucking freedom when you cant smoke a fucking plant because it makes you feel good!

[redtuss0ck]

Mind you if you shave that dickhead pubic beard your wearing they will spot you I'll bet.

[Brakinator]

@kiwicreator548 Do you like locking up people for smoking a plant that makes them feel good? How about you go after some P dealers a solve a real problem.

[steve7mm08]

Paranoia at its best, keep frying your brains, you are lucky NZ has a soft welfare system to look after you

[otagonorml]

There is paranoia and then there is recognition of a previous seen plain-clothed officer.

I can assure you it was the latter.

Cannabis doesn't kill brain cells, you'd know that if you actually did some research into your position.

[mctavish99]

Its paranoia. You would zoom you stupid little camera in on anyone walking past and accuse them of being a cop. If the cops were "undercover" you wouldnt see them.

[deathlaychur]

Did you watch the same video? It was one person they were following and its obvious he was watching them. So take your stupid little comment and stick it up your arse.

[redtuss0ck]

There is very clear and recent evidence to show that Cannabis has a harmful effect on a young brain. Denial doesn't change the fact it just proves the damage.

[Fuctmentality]

You mind naming the study?

[redtuss0ck]

Take the study of this Videos comments. It took you 2 months to formulate an answer. Case proved. :-)

[Fuctmentality]

It took 20 seconds for me to ask for proof? Not an answer as you didn't ask a question.

I think you just proved you're retarded.

[redtuss0ck]

Oh you gave up the moral high ground so quickly. Are you new to debate, or have you been insulting people for some time now?

[gtmilenko]

@otagonorml you should have talked to him, maybe but sum beer in your diet, meow

[sputniknz]

@steve7mm08 sir you are a f**kwit, if i knew you i would slap you!....moron

[BigEarn81]

Seems like smokin too much has made you guys paranoid. :D

Better go and check your homes for bugging devices. In this police state you are safe nowhere, undercover cops are just the start...

[blackline7]

smoke at home because i dont want to avoid my university at any time due to the fact i hate the smell of weed, and as it is illigal i dont have to, and that aint no under cover cop thts my mate ben, hes a gud dude and im sure he dosnt apreciate being called undercover cop, haha idiot

[sumokiwi]

Where is the evidence that he is an undercover cop ? Are students not allowed to walk around campus with a camera these days ? And if he is a cop so fucking what ? If you wanna smoke illegal drugs and draw attention to yourself then tough shit !

[hazie01]

In nearly ALL CASES people with a server drug addition have all started with cannabis. And also there is proof at the moment that the gangs will lace joints with P to get people hooked or offer them free P to get them hooked. Just because you have a degree does not mean that you are better than any one else, most of the people I know that have degrees ended up working in jobs that a degree was not needed for them to get. You are 19, when you grow up one day you might understand life,well maybe..

[hazie01]

For a 19 Student you sure are dumb. You don't like dealing with gangs?? Do you actually think that making it legal will make the gangs go away? The are making 100 of millions of dollars with cannabis andf they will not give that up and if people think that they can just set u shop and sell the stuff will get the heads bashed in by the local gang that runs that area's drug supply. I work with people who fuck their life's up on drugs and guess what? It is not a soft drug.

[axlvangok]

C'mon you guys are totally baiting the cops and security guys and you know it! Not really fair on them, just doing their job, it puts them in an awkward situation. Why don't you just smoke pot at home like everyone else?

[otagonorml]

Why smoke at home? We're not allowed to do that either.

Smoking at home wouldn't call any attention to the injustice of the law. We're sick of being treated like criminals for what we choose to smoke.

We'd much rather make it known that we won't stop despite a few arrests and despite trespasses.

[hazie01]

Cannabis is not a soft drug, it causes so much distruction in homes and families around this country and is a prcurser drug for the likes of P. You need to wake up and stop bleating on about a subject just because you have no ambition in life except sit around like a moron and smoke all day. Go get a real job and a real life will you and actually become a person that a child may want to look up to one da

[otagonorml]

Cannabis is a soft drug.

Any destruction that cannabis causes is a result of either its legal status or ingrained bigotry.

Cannabis is not a precursor to methamphetamine. If you're speaking chemistry, you're wrong. If you're speaking drug-use, you're also wrong.

The gate-way theory is so full of holes that it just isn't funny.

No ambition? I'm 19 and I'm in my third year of tertiary study.

What do you do for a job?

[sumokiwi]

Cannabis fucks up peoples lives. So does alcohol but we are beyond the point of no return with that. We cannot accept legalisation of another drug as it would cause more and more carnage like alcohol. Give it up you will never be the majority on this one.

[bennyboy7088]

@otagonorml you have to stop comparing yourself. Just because you're 19 and studying and have all of these arguments that are generally circular doesn't mean that cannabis is good and not harmful. You could be at the bottom of your class, and if not then you will be with this shit you smoke. If you had any logic in your brain then you would see it is more reasonable to take the other side of the argument. Wait, don't bother replying to this as I know it will lack sense.

[MATHEWBARRADA]

@hazie01 your a fucking dumbass bitch, how many people smoke a joint then go home an beat there wife, hold up its more like they get all drunk an beat there wife alcohol is much worse an causes much more destruction. how many people die a year from smoking some herb zero. and you cant overdose so its pretty soft to me considering theres alot more legal things an cause much more harm to our society. so do some research before being ignorant.

[joshpcolts18]

@hazie01 You need to stop trying to impose your crappy life on the rest of us. So if Cannabis is a gateway drug, then why arent 50% of americans smoking a crack tonight?

Its actually gotten to the point where its entertaining to argue with people who oppose pot. becuase every single thing they use as a reason can easily be proven false, and the only way they continue preaching falsehood is COGNITIVE DISSONANCE.

[sputniknz]

@hazie01 you are also a f**kwit.... you should be slapped and muzzled! but freedom to speak is a liberty you enjoy.... but freedom to choose is not. Look in the mirror and observe a true moron in all its glory, bigots should be deported..... its just not Kiwi!

[hazie01]

what a complete of waste of space you and all NORMAL are. I can not believe how stupid you are when it comes to drugs. You clam that pot is ok and it does not hurt any one, well guess what dumb arse pot in NZ is controlled by the gangs. You know gangs don;t you? The people that commit crime and murder poeple over drugs?? If you suport cannabis in NZ then you are suporting the gangs to kill and murder people and are suporting organised crime.

[bbfringe]

thats why i should be legalized, stop the violence man

[hazie01]

to bbfringe, Well "Man" what a dumb arse you are. lets make it legal so young kids that dont now can have greater acess to a drug that is the cause of so much crime, violence and underacheivement in this country, THATS A GREAT IDEA!! All you and your pot head friends are worried about is the fact that YOU want it legal so YOU and your stupid mates can get stoned.

[otagonorml]

I was a child once, and prohibition didn't stop me getting cannabis.

Fact is that in New Zealand cannabis use is sitting above the 40% mark.

Our protests demonstrate that clearly pot isn't the cause of violence -- we've never have a fight; we show that cannabis doesn't cause under-achievement -- most of our group members are university students.

We want it legal for more than that. It's more important than just "getting stoned."

[bukkake2007]

@hazie01

I know your comment is a year old but I just wanted to say that it's easier for kids to get weed and other illegal drugs NOW than it would be if it was regulated & had an age limit. A lot of gangs that sell drugs don't care how old you are, as long as you got the cash. It's easier for kids to get illegal drugs than booze or ciggies.

[haidar69]

not only that but their excuses for cannibus omg, you guys shouyld study and actually make sumthing out of yourselfes rather than acting like a bunch of idiots hahah your all fucked up espicially the american dude

[otagonorml]

We do study.

The American dude studies more than any of us. Where exactly is your masters degree?

[otagonorml]

It's NORML, actually.

Pot is controlled by gangs. If it were legal this wouldn't be an issue.

Do you think I enjoy having to deal with gangs whenever I want to buy some pot?

Of course I don't.

Legalise and the gang problem disappears.

[rx7blitzin]

so sad to see the police sticking there noses were they dont belong