Both have great displays but I do agree with the post below that the fascinate did feel a bit cheap lol I just got an iphone 4 and I wouldn't trade it for an android device, and that's just my opinion :) I had the g1, mytouch 3G, and fascinate and the experiences weren't anything compared to when I had my first iPhone 3G. For people who want something useful and won't take up too much time from life, iPhone and wp7.
the galaxy s display is much better believe me i i haw the galaxy s and i was looking on an iphone 4 in a appel store and compared them and yes you cant se any pixels on the iphone however the apps is not very clear and you can se som pixels on the galaxy s but the screens looks better thanks to its coolers but its your dissuasion do you want good coolers or no pixels : )
I just went from the Samsung Focus to Iphone 4 a couple weeks ago and I couldnt be happier. The Focus was way too dumbed down and simple. My iphone 4 does everything. I did like the large screen and high res on the focus but it felt way too light and plasticy like it would shatter on light impact and I didnt think it would last two yrs. Reception is good on both. I love my Iphone 4 and would def recommend it.
@13thconstant wait... are you saying that the focus is too dumbed down compared to the iphone? are u saying that an android phone is dumbed down compared to an ios? if you're saying that then it's like comparing linux to mac. android is linux and ios is mac. you cant do shit on a mac compared to linux. maybe YOU"RE just too dumb down to use a focus, an android phone on default does about the same stuff an iphone can, but after some personal configurations, it's way better than an iphone.
@13thconstant lol you tell me to get a life while you double post haha. Either way have you ever heard of xda developers? Even something as shirty as wp 7 can be made better than the shitty iphone ios. The ios from spple is closed of a source as fuck lmao. You switching to the iphone is a dumb fuck move right there buddy.
Everyone thinks the S-AMOLED colors are oversaturated...really, OLED is the first technology to reproduce colors with any remote accuracy compared to any other screen technology that will fuck over your contrast and colors with the necessity of a backlight. There's no way you can argue that LCD has better anything except resolution-per-cost when it requires a bright white light to wash everything out.
@PAPERCLlPS They really don't. Because the LCD pixels produce very little color/light on their own, a bright white light has be shone through them in order for the screen to illuminate.
On the other hand, there is slight local darkening, and the light is widely dispered. DO you really think technology is sooo primive to just shine a light through a screen? How does it have such a large viewing angle then...
Seriously man... Also SAMOLED due to very large gamut does cause lots of artefacts and banding issues, and that is worse IMO than some (very meagre) ghosting and non-existant light dispersion issues (its IPS man...)
@ls600h1 "How does it have such a large viewing angle then"
LCD screens have horrible viewing angles. They have good color viewing angles but the brightness angle differences is still a problem. Load up a completely black screen on the new iphone and look at how much it changes with the angle you look at it - a lot. AMOLED is the first technology to have a true 180 degree viewing angle. LCDs have no ability to reproduce darks or blacks (regardless of viewing angle). AMOLED black is black.
Demented I tell you. The loss in brightness in IPS is above-average (like close to SAMOLED), but shift in colour and loss in contrast is LOWER THAN ON SAMOLED. And since its twice as bright anyways, it looks better on odd angles than any AMOLED display
AMOLED black is the only thing OLED has over LCD. Less bright overall, very power inefficient, and expensive. Also a bad colour gamut
@ls600h1 " but shift in colour and loss in contrast is LOWER THAN ON SAMOLED"
Plainly false. OLED is not susceptible to color shifting as LCDs are and contrast isn't even a contest.
"AMOLED black is the only thing OLED has over LCD. "
Plus response time, refresh rate, contrast ratio, viewing angle, color accuracy, physical flexibility....and it isn't just blacks - all darker (and to a lesser extent, brighter colors) colors are enhanced by not having a bright light shone through them.
Stop confusing digital specs with practical end-results. A screen could have a color resolution of a kajillion - shining a bright light through it is a giant limitation to how accurately it could ever
"All lab comparison calibrated monitors are LCD."
Professional TV monitors are rarely flatscreen, but Adobe RGB goes by it because it's still the consumer standard. AMOLED screens are still barely a generation old.
Actually no IPS, isn't a shining light a display, the colour is equally accurate throughout the display, and so is the brightness. You don't even get to know its LCD.
That is exactly my point. Current LCDs like the retina are matured and evolved LCD. AMOLED is still a young technology which has a long way to go. It will become superior, but Im comparing the current generatoin of both.
Actually there is a newer LCD display better than IPS. Forgot the name.
@ls600h1 "Actually no IPS, isn't a shining light a display, the colour is equally accurate throughout the display, and so is the brightness."
Are you trolling? Yes, it's back-lit. No, there's not a way to shine a light through color pixels and retain perfect color, nor is there a way to have a perfect viewing angle with a backlight. It shines through differently at different angles.
Are you kidding me OLED is much better at colour reproduction. Were talking organic LEDs with minimal power consumption. Where on earth do you retards get your facts from? Youtube is NOT a source for factual knowledge!
You cant see the screens properly on this review...watch "iPhone 4 Vs Samsung Galaxy S Video Review Part 2" by Smartphoneenvy and read my comments on there.
Observe the images at 3:14 and 3:30...witness accurate colour reproduction by Samsungs AMOLED.
@kunjarify I'm all for SAMOLED screens but they are NOT the best with color reproduction. That title belongs to IPS LCD displays like the retina display, Mac Displays, Eizo displays, Dell Ultrasharps, etc. LCD's produce over a billion colors thus being able to display perfect gradiations while in all AMOLED displays you get steps.
I've used the Nexus and saw some serious issues image reproduction side. Galaxy S one the other hand I never noticed. Try updating to 2.2 (Froyo) I've read that 2.1 has 16bit dithering to 24bit Gallery application so the colours will be alot worse and less in number ergo some serious artefacts. This problem wasn't there in 2.0...
I never had the problem since I used a ROM that fixed that (just for safe measure though I never noticed i earlier)
@ls600h1 I run cognition custom rom with froyo on my captivate and still have the banding issues. You can notice this in the background of angry birds.
rectina lack of contrast is most noticeable in darker scenes; in order to display a color close to black, the LCD shutters have to be turned to almost full opacity, limiting the number of discrete colors they can display. This leads to "posterizing" effects and bands of discrete colors that become visible in shadows. which is why many reviews of LCD TV's mention the "shadow detail".
@ls600h1: You're just another one of those idiots who thinks old technology is still better then the new more advanced one. The Super AMOLED screen is able to produce whiter whites, true black and beautifully saturate colors. Both Iphone 4 and Galaxy S (series) have over 16 million colors. I phone 4 is a bit sharper, the Galaxy's are more vibrant, detailed and saturated.
SAMOLED consumes almost no power at black and at white, almost as much as TFT LCD backlighting.
@ls600h1: Have you even taken a look at an SAMOLED screen? I doubt it, where are you getting your info at? OLED is the future, LCD is going to be dead within a few years...
And colors cant be detailed, they're either saturated or not. Pixel density makes detail and if the Galaxy S series had the same amount of pixel density, then you guys wouldn't say a thing. And they had a OLED VS LCD power consumption compatrison, LCD basically stayed the same at 415 and OLED varied... low to high...
I agree OLED will take over LCD but it hasn't yet. We have an underdeveloped OLED vs a fully evolved LCD here. OLED has alot of room for improvement.
Colours can be accurate, oversaturated or undersaturated. Saturation is quantity of variation in colours. It should be standard not too high like in the galaxy s..
And no, OLED use more power (very often triple) at every colour except pure black (even at almost pure black it used much more)
@ls600h1 If you say one more time that samoled consumes more power, Imma fire my lazah at you! Here's an idea: How about you post a link to a source to prove your point?
I'm really wondering where will you find a source that says how samoled consumes more... hmm...
@ls600h1 "LED use more power (very often triple) at every colour except pure black (even at almost pure black it used much more)"
AMOLED uses almost no power on black and very little any remotely dark color. It uses 3 times as much on pure white but only pure white, and drops off sharply from there. What you also omitted is that AMOLED technology doesn't require a backlight which takes up a considerable amount of power that the IPS LCD screen uses.
Well said, but you are mistaken, only in the fully switched off state (pure black) does OLED use 0nit, lower than LCD. At something even slightly brighter it uses more power than an LCD. Backlight do drain power, but its still FAR less. Yes OLED are worst at whites and become a little more power efficient at blues and greens but still alot more than LCD in each case.
If you mean artefacts and I think you do, Nexus One's AMOLED was rated to have the MOST artefacts (even then the lousy 3gs display). AMOLED doesn't solve the problem
Even in a fully switched-off state, liquid crystals allow some light to leak through the shutters. This limits their contrast ratios to about 1600:1 on the best modern sets, when measured using the ANSI measurement (ANSI IT7.215-1992)
At the end of the test, he said that in the end there is no clear winner, but he still gave it to apple , y? because he scared being the haters of apple's fan like you. and that's a fact, he will want to favour the majority of people who already bought iphone4 and will end up gaining more fans, such as u.
since it has a higher ppi and size doesn't matters to both of u. this only shows both u and display mates are bias. btw display test is only done by one and only one person which is the professor himself. Nobody set the standard on the degree of things to test for. It is highly plausible he missed out other tests that will favour the super amoled. Is it better to trust source from a single person or an association. Think about it. N have you read the review of display on GSMarena?
GSMArena is even more biased (ive followed it for years) and they're review are done by someone like you or me, paid to do it and no expert, the kind of guy who says "Wow Pretty colours!!".
Displaymate has many employees, BTW and do lab tests. They are highly regarded. They know they're way around these things. Display testing is their job! Highly unlikely they make an error in judgement. SAMOLED will destro SLCD, but it has some way to go. DIsplaymate concludes the same
about the bulb i said like? because the whole frame is constantly on. and it interfer with the colours. Colours + torch shinning thru = wash out. Since you pin point your arguments on super amoled, shouldn't displaymate do his test on the wave instead of on galaxy S?
No, Backlight does not wash out colours. Droid which is LCD IPS, has the most accurate colours (named by displaymate). LCD doesn't do this, it's a trade Apple made for better battery life and longer lasting display.
They tested Galaxy S because they were comparing Smartphones -.-
WHy not ask them to throw in an HDTV in that comparison, or a PSP or Zune...
wave has lower res than rectina but it is a superamoled that couple with it. Now you are saying superamoled sucks becos of the colours. I love it when you contradict yourself. Since you said it amoled spoils colours, then why did display mate gave it the best new technology? funny? not credible? I named samsung as the world's largest producer of LCD LED tv. They are experts in lcd and led unlike u, why the hell would they spend so much money to create the more expensive "inferior" super amoled?
They gave it best new technology exactly because its display spoils colours as they clearly stated, it's new and advancing and will become better with improvements. If Retina is dull why did they give it best overall display award?
That once again means squat, LCD is undoubtedly inferior to AMOLED technology, but you have to see, this is TFT IPS SUper LCD with tiny pixels. It's evolved. SAMOLED is evolved AMOLED but has alot of room for improvement. It's relatively young
it really makes me wonder, 3gs has 165ppi and no one its complaining, and you get so defensive on your view that samoled on galaxy is pixelated. Go check out gsmarena, there are plenty of pics there to show how samoled is more superior than rectina. And samsung wave has a 283ppi, and more complains? I strongly suggest you sell your ego to get one for comparison since you mind more on ppi.
I hated all prior iPhone displays. And times have changed. Earlier 165ppi was Average. In 3gs times, 165ppi was low, and there were many people complaining. But we aren't comparing 3gs are we?
I have used the wave before. I honestly find it a better display than Galaxy S's.
more games obviously because only recently has high end android phone surface, I thought you have many android devices and don't know about this? Rofl. More games on apple ? free games? Or do you need to jail break your phone per update to get em huh?
and another thing, please find those galaxy vs ip display and join in the comments by saying samoled colours sucks. I am so interested to see you get flamed. :) well I doubt you don't dare.you can do it here because the views are not that much spectacular. Try somewhere else and see if your ego works on the crowd. Oh yah the glare issue, are you smarter than samsung to prove that ip4 glass and the bulb light produce lower glare than samoled?
and btw I think you do not understand what is colour gamut, go check the dictionary. Display mate already said rectina has super low colour gamut how can it generate more colours than amoled. You are really funny.
lcd was even using an older technology than led, and there you are trying to embarrass yourself with your glowy charcoal display. The rectina back light is like a single light bulb, like those ancient light bulb. No matter how the crystal s from lcd try to cover these light I'd like using a curtain to cover a torch. samoled sucky colours, oh tel that to samsung pls.who is selling more tv here, you? Apple? Joke
Single Bulb? LCD Backlight is a single BULB? Get your facts right mate.
Is there a SINGLE SAMOLED TV? NO Samoled don't come in more than 4" ATM and a 7" is in production. NO TV. Apple doesn't sell TV's. Lets ask, WHo is selling more PC's/Laptops. Apple! Cuz Samsung doesn't sell any.
count what ? Counter yourself? First you said videos have more whites than blacks and someone quote display maye as saying the opposite, then you say no one looks closely at pixels and you did. And now you are saying again something that quote off from others people work.arent you behaving like a moron? Words from reputable website become part of your law.
rectina is only good when it shows u that the edge of every black lines boundaries is being displayed smoothly, but that doesn't means for the whole part of the photo it is showing a pop out type of effects like you see on the Samoled. When the colour pops out it is like the image come to life on your screen. Rectina is still dull and plain and washed out and the only thing that it did better are on non moving words.
Why do women do makeups? This is because the colours they put on their face produce different shades and layers thus bringing in a whole new level of effects. Having so much colours on the Samoled at it's disposal simply means it has the ability to produce lot more "pop out" images and it is only a joy to marvel. For 1 single colour spectrum, Samoled is able to produce many many similar colours to represent the photo. I emphasize on layers because it brings details of the shades as well.
iPhone has more colours 0.38m vs 1.23. Also because its RGB and not RGBG as in pentile, it can display more colours even without its higher rez. It only is defeated in Blue's and Blacks' it does better whites, reds, oranges, yellows Green is bad on both.
Makeup is an art. They have makeup courses and artists. It isn'y just dumping saturation, its smart polishing. SAMOLED just increases the saturation, BOOM. Gaudy Yucky colours
the super amoled screen is just amazing. black is black even when you rotate the screen which ever angle you look at it...it's still black unlike an LCD.
You haf flash on ur phone + overclocked gpu, does it means the majority of the people need to jailbreak like you once every month? you are misleading the people out there that can do what you can do. do they have the time to do like what you do? Can achieve and readily available are 2 separate issues.
Im not using this as an angle to debate, I'm just showing not to bring Software into this, like you brought up SGS's better GPU. I countered it by saying what I did. Leave sofware out of this and so will I.
And the games made for iphone and ported to android are OBVIOUSLY having no flaws with the iphones. Because that is how they designed to be. How can you use a game that is made for iphone and ported elsewhere as comparison since ip4 has lower specs, obviously sgs will have no problem running too. Conversely if a game is designed for sgs while making full use of it's potentials and ran on ip4, flaws can be seen easily.
Gameloft hasn't done lots of games. HOS2, Ganstar MV, MC BP2, Spiderman etc.
NOVA 2 says on trailer coming soon for iOS.
Infinity Gene, Battlefield Bad Company 2, RAGE, etc. All amazing games coming to iOS. UE3 SDK means all games will get 2x better in the next few months. HOS is on Android ans iOS. Its sequal has been out for many months on iOS, no word on Android. DOnt compare Games. Lower specs? Only lower GPU!! Thats it
3gs has lower ppi than sgs, don't see anyone complaining. Look at the votes dude, where is ur rectina votes? Are you saying the majority of people are blind when it comes to judging beauty? You are making yourself a public hater.
To not able to appreciate the power of different layers of textures and colours by blindly following resolutions, that is typical of u. Different layters of colours do make the images look more detailed than using high contrast to forcibly create colours ending up losing much details.
Layes, Hmmm LED has many layers? Its pentatonic RGBG display, with only one layer, no backlight cuz led emit their own light. If anything LCD has the pixel layer and then the backlight so 2 layers...(it means nothing, your point is poetic but meaningless)
Resolution is the most important thing anyways.
I agree with the contrast thing. Same thing when a screen adds too much colour losing detail accuracy power etc etc
White's on Galaxy S are dull, uninspiring and blue-ish to say the least.
ROFL, Have you even turn up the samoled brightness to see if white is blue? if not don't bark here. All the talks about resolution, boy u r such a fan, is everything about display only resolution? you already have a mindset there at the back of your mind, greater resolution = clear win. but you neglect the fact that washed out blacks discounted the whole definition of the image.
I have, I have put both displays side by side. Guess what I saw
Blacks can never be washed out, its incorrect usage of words but i get your point. However in even 0.1 ambient lighting, the black level mean nothing as both screens are reflective (albeit very little so) and so blacks mean SQUAT in day2day usage, unless you lock yourself in the basement, lights off (brave enough?) and whoopee
And well if you keep insist that under-saturated colours looks better, so be it. But for most of the population out there, they like vibrant colours better. You are the odd one out that's all. The white on super amoled is so exaggerating thought to be blue. Look at the device physically and it is white not blue like some people has made up to be. And when you zoom into a pic at max on rectina, the smoothed out pic you get is unrealistic, non existence pixels generated by the software. unreal?
Don't tell me you come into the "most of the population" category. Most of the world is illiterate or unknowledgable in these matters and anyways "most of the world" uses an iPhone (compares to Galaxy S series).
White's on Galaxy S are dull, uninspiring and blue-ish to say the least.
I didn't understand your third point but ONVIOUSLY it's software side, something I'm NOT discussing...
OpenFeint (world's largest mobile gaming developer community) have announced that they are embracing Android, and Google have appointed a new head of their Android gaming department. So it is a matter of time before the gyroscope on galaxy s can be shown that it is capable of doing what iphone4 has.
Now there are more and more game developers embracing android. It is only possible that games can make the best out from galaxy's GPU which cannot be done on the rectina! simply because of rectina high resolution, pixels gets pushed out slower than our normal tft monitor! fast motions games will have ghosting on rectina =)
There is no ghosting even on games which use 300mb RAM like Epic Citadel or MC2.
The Display is well balanced with Display, as opposed to Galaxy S which has too low a rez to make full use of its incredible GPU. With my overclocked (actually normal 1ghz clocked) iPhone processor and some plit editing the GPU comes upto closer to 45m pps. Stable, obviously decreases battery but while 3d games only. Just an FYI
another thing is, given ip4 to be 4inch, it is not going to be pixeless from naked eyes. I don't know why you are so proud of the pixel density when the screen is smaller . Amoled is the future display technology, tft can't do the follow:
watch?v=fPY7WYBtq8w&feature=related
watch?v=f8S8tbQMp2k&feature=related
stop trying to defend tft ffs .
Further more samsung uses dNIE technology on galaxy s, pics, videos, are much crispier than you expect.
isheep calling others' fanboys. funny. Do you know what is fan boy? Fanboy is like following a series of something blindly. As far as i remember there is no Galaxy A, or Galaxy B to Galaxy S? just because people like galaxy s doesn't means they are fanboys like you. and galaxy s won eisa 2010-2011
Apple marketing is genius but the products aren't. Reason the Iphone4 has such high pixel density is because IPS-LCD is cheaper/older technology. Thusly, of an AMOLED and LCD screen for the same price, the LCD will have a higher resolution; but the AMOLED will have a greater contrast ratio, more colors, greater viewing angle, true blacks (no backlight!), higher refresh rate...
But Apple knows the non-expert can only list res for a screen spec, so it's what they implement and advertise. Clever.
The point that Super amoled uses more power is valid but don't miss out the fact that Galaxy S is having a 1500mah battery while the ip4 is 1420mah. That will roughly make up for it.
And I don't get it, rectina isn't natural colour too. why would he insist on natural colours when the rectina is too under saturated and unnatural. Doesn't makes any sense. The conclusion is both display are unnatural colours, one over and one under. But the Super amoled looks better on images, videos & games while the rectina looks better on texts.
conceded. Is that due to display, or GPU? GPU probably so inconsequential in this pure display arguement. On 960x640 rez display games look incredible and detail is incredible. On SAMOLED the curves look fuzzy and pixels are easy to spot. Also its too bright at times and looks gaudy. Gaming experience is alot better on iPhone despite lower response time. They both have amazing frame rates.
well i bring in the GPU bcoz it optimise what the super amoled on galaxy s can do over the rectina. When holding your phone at comfortable position while gaming, you can't actually spot the pixels on galaxy's super amoled, let alone moving images. The argument now is Super amoled vs rectina , and naturally people compare the super amoled on galaxy s with ip4 rectina. Suppose Super amoled on let's say galaxy X has the same pixels density as rectina, there is nothing to compare anymore.
That is not true, you can see pixels easily and the jagged/fuzziness, all due to a display that isnt too sharp.
And ofcourse if SAMOLED gets 326 ppi it'll be the best. But iPhone will still have better brightness and lot's of other stuff like lower shift in contrast.
BUT Samoled doesn't have 326dpi. When it does it'll be a clearcut winner -.-
Opps I think you can't Because rectina is just plain rubbish, just like you. I even suspect you have to resort to video editing if you are going to make the video lol. Pwned
Opps I think you can't Because rectina is just plain rubbish, just like you. I even suspect you have to resort to video editing if you are going to make the video lol. Pwned
A picture speak a thousand words lest video? My ideas cant be driven into your retarded mind hence I have no choice but to show you the proof. But it ends up you're still stubborn and don't want to admit that Super amoled looks better than rectina. Stubbornness wont turn the truth around mind you.
Well the reason y iphone is selling more is because of steve jobs' marketing. All his craps upon isheeps = sales.
And the reason why there are so many videos out there to trash rectina because it is a worse display. It just get amusing when you keep insist that rectina looks better than S amoled LOL, fyi my bro has iphone4 and we compared to image viewing, video & game playing in a dark room. The rectina just looks worse. Take it or leave it. Super amoled looks nicer than rectina.
It's also IPS and dubbed as SUPER LCD, cuz its display is very close to the glass. Like SAMOLED =D. Nearly nothing bw capacitive touchscreen and the display. Greatly improves angles viewing and just viewing altogether
What is Super LCD, does it really exist. It's just a term I coined. SUPER Amoled is AMOLED with display closer to surface and eliminating a few layers. Apple's is LCD with TFT IPS, and with its display close to the surface (on the glass, looks amazing) and layers eliminated. It's just a term coined by a couple of people. Super Amoled is a marketing aswell. Its superior to Amoled. Same with Super LCD (Droid X and Retina)
@ls600h1 Still, Super LCD ≠ Retina. Just because Retina is as big as an improvement to regular LCD displays as SAMOLED is to AMOLED, or SLCD to LCD, that does not make them the same. Quite the opposite actually. They are very different and, as we have already concluded, both have their pros and cons.
Now, if you wish to continue this discussion about which one is better, go right ahead, I'm sure that someone is listening. I'm out.
Consolidating pro - SuperAmoled videos (list still rolling)
watch?v=QIUCtgBYs-4&feature=re-lated watch?v=dA9oTNhSRaw watch?v=lRkb75gjVD0 watch?v=E_vPxDDpMWg watch?v=vjPxNadNm8M watch?v=Zn3oN040L1Y watch?v=VOzz8Zg-5kM watch?v=xiO3s8NdQ34 watch?v=SRHonmYY7S0 watch?v=CgjXYLGbXXk watch?v=u1-zJ-MPR0o I accept any challenger to provide more videos to show that rectina is better.
@ls600h1 You keep talking about pixels right? When playing video, most of the times there are shadows. With people/objects + camera lights/ sun = shadows. And when there are BLACKS, THERE IS ARE NO PIXELS ON THE SUPER AMOLED. EVEN IF YOU USE A MICROSCOPE U CAN'T SEE ANY PIXELS ON THE DARK SPOT. BUT YOU CAN CERTAINLY SEE PIXELS ON THE RECTINA EVERYWHERE ON THE SCREEN WITH A MAGNIFYING GLASS (YUP NOT MICROSCOPE). Sorry for the caps, I am just excited that i made a new science discovery.Howz that?
"Of course, if you’re a crazed movie buff who loves to watch movies on smartphones, you might be able to get more battery life out of your OLED smartphone than if you were surfing the net. The reason being that most movies are on average much darker than a typical website."
and oh now you say no one is using magnifying glass to watch phone display, then what is the fuzz on rectina? when you hold the phone the normal way, the Samoled is still crisp and clear. That again is contradicting on your side? You have display doubts over displaymate's quotes and now tell us we should not look so close to the screen, very anti rectina indeed. n1
@ls600h1 You keep talking about pixels right? When playing video, most of the times there are shadows. With people/objects + camera lights/ sun = shadows. And when there are BLACKS, THERE IS ARE NO PIXELS ON THE SUPER AMOLED. EVEN IF YOU USE A MICROSCOPE U CAN'T SEE ANY PIXELS ON THE DARK SPOT. BUT YOU CAN CERTAINLY SEE PIXELS ON THE RECTINA EVERYWHERE ON THE SCREEN WITH A MAGNIFYING GLASS (YUP NOT MICROSCOPE). Sorry for the caps, I am just excited that i made a new science discovery.Howz that?
Don't gimme the crap about stretching, because you keep emphasize on natural. But seriously, aren't those movies that goes up to the big screen also "graphically enhanced"? Are those great arts by Leonardo using fake colours as well. imo you just ain't someone who appreciate beauty. The super amoled is indeed beautiful enuff said.
Yes but those are all done in moderation and not just completely increasing colour saturation. Is that what you think Editing movies is? Turning Saturation bar up?
Is that what Da Vinci's genius is?
And FYI you started the Natural Aesthetic arguement.
Are you a professional video editor ? stfu, you don't know anything about it.
FYI, galaxy S can be connected wirelessly via a dLNA TV if you want to edit any video. Bigger screen and most natural colours, any complains? Can your iphone do that ?
And you said I am posting the videos that are bias rofl. You say you are holding the two phones every night why don't you take a video of the 2 and show us how your rectina looks better than Super amoled?
To fit 16:9 into 15:10, you will have a thin black line on top and cut-out sides.
To fit 16:9 into a 15:9 , you will have a cut-out side only. The difference get more obvious when your videos have subtitles, thin black lines on top + inherent subtitle blacks on bottom, making the screen looks really small, especially on a 3.5 inch.
You have a 960x640 display. It shows more content anyways so you could technically just minimize the movie (with obvious downsides). Ofcourse, your point is obviously valid. The low aspect ratio is disturbing for such another otherwise high-end display.
lol I am still laughing at your futile effort There I am posting so many videos on how Super amoled beats the rectina, and obviously more people like the Super amoled. Come on it is the best technology, who wouldn't want it in their hands. I really get irritated when people try to over assert themselves and keep saying super amoled is grainy this and that. Yup I was wrong that the A4 doesnt use 45nm but you are wrong too.
OK guys check out this site, it shows they're displays, wifi speeds and battery life. iPhone clearly wins on all 3. It also shows Software which Galaxy S ofcourse won in. Sorry for posting a link, I could see no other way
"Besides the LCD mounted on the iPhone 4 has out-of-this-world viewing angles and manages to do something we never believed possible. It turns out that from extremely tight viewpoints the iPhone actually looks a bit better. However, considering that no one actually looks at their phone screen from such steep angles it’s a fact interesting to scientists but irrelevant to users." quotes from gsmarena
Galaxy S on the other hand is crisp on words and VERY VERY sharp on colours, unrivaled. It is as if the colours pop out ! So if you are saying the screen that is most sharp wins the day, I am betting on the Super amoled.
@ls600h1 If you're going to to talk in plural, say "colors ARE" not "is"
Anyway, Colors are "sucky" is that your "scientific knowledge" and "scientific opinion"? Get a clue... Swallow your ego for 2 minutes and just click on those fucking red annotations @2:00!
Rectina is only sharp on words and not sharp on colour. On a webpage it is not showing more details. It is just displaying the same detail over more pixels, lower resolution screens also display the SAME content. And the ip4 most of the times has too little colours to work with and end up trying to go on high contrast to differentiate the colours more and resulting in washed out colours .
Not forgetting the superb video formats on galaxy S: MPEG4, H.263, H.264, DivX, XviD, WMV, AVI, 3GP, FLV, MKV Which makes it a very formidable video player ^^
Graphics backed by powerVGR SGX540 on the galaxy s, power consumption on galaxy's A8's 45nm as opposed to A4's 65nm, allows videos to be played 7 hours on a full charge. Not forgetting the aspect ratio of galaxy s to be 15:9 closest to the usual 16:9 on most vids compared to the 3:2. Difference gets more noticeable on vids with subtitles.
@ls600h1 Then load the same image on both phones, turn off the lights, close the blinds and open your eyes!
No fucking wonder you believe the SAMOLED is too saturated because you're used to looking at that washed out, terribly under-saturated and dull rectina display... FFS!
Shitty antenna is a feature? Wow, fanboy level 90.
kerayzey 4 months ago
that is why cases are necessary :)) but I don't if it affects me or will it? I dont have an iPhone
clarkmanicad 4 months ago
doesn't affect mine...
EliasHam 5 months ago
Antennagate is one of many features on that iPhone, it is a reject call button on its body..
crazymorganable 9 months ago
nice job putting the phones on that horrible surface. Enjoy your scratches
xenover 10 months ago
Both have great displays but I do agree with the post below that the fascinate did feel a bit cheap lol I just got an iphone 4 and I wouldn't trade it for an android device, and that's just my opinion :) I had the g1, mytouch 3G, and fascinate and the experiences weren't anything compared to when I had my first iPhone 3G. For people who want something useful and won't take up too much time from life, iPhone and wp7.
diilpace 1 year ago
the galaxy s display is much better believe me i i haw the galaxy s and i was looking on an iphone 4 in a appel store and compared them and yes you cant se any pixels on the iphone however the apps is not very clear and you can se som pixels on the galaxy s but the screens looks better thanks to its coolers but its your dissuasion do you want good coolers or no pixels : )
priffess 1 year ago
I just went from the Samsung Focus to Iphone 4 a couple weeks ago and I couldnt be happier. The Focus was way too dumbed down and simple. My iphone 4 does everything. I did like the large screen and high res on the focus but it felt way too light and plasticy like it would shatter on light impact and I didnt think it would last two yrs. Reception is good on both. I love my Iphone 4 and would def recommend it.
13thconstant 1 year ago
@13thconstant wait... are you saying that the focus is too dumbed down compared to the iphone? are u saying that an android phone is dumbed down compared to an ios? if you're saying that then it's like comparing linux to mac. android is linux and ios is mac. you cant do shit on a mac compared to linux. maybe YOU"RE just too dumb down to use a focus, an android phone on default does about the same stuff an iphone can, but after some personal configurations, it's way better than an iphone.
megamanxu 1 year ago
@megamanxu My Samsung Focus had Windows 7 Dumb Fuck. Get a life. Put this much passion into your life and you might get somewhere.
13thconstant 1 year ago
@13thconstant lol you tell me to get a life while you double post haha. Either way have you ever heard of xda developers? Even something as shirty as wp 7 can be made better than the shitty iphone ios. The ios from spple is closed of a source as fuck lmao. You switching to the iphone is a dumb fuck move right there buddy.
megamanxu 1 year ago
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@13thconstant i have one too its really nice
Jamaica4Lyphe 1 year ago
@megamanxu You're just fucking stupid.
Your whole statement about the mac android linux bullshit was 100% totally stupid and wrong.
TurnYourBrainOn2 11 months ago
@TurnYourBrainOn2 how is it wrong?
megamanxu 11 months ago
@megamanxu OSx is based off of freeBSD.....a version of LINUX HURR DURR
TurnYourBrainOn2 11 months ago
@TurnYourBrainOn2 that is correct, and.... why was I 100% wrong?
megamanxu 11 months ago
@megamanxu Sorry, I can't seem to understand your nonsense with your poor grammar.
MrRobloMan 9 months ago
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@MrRobloMan Then don't.... no one was talking to you.
megamanxu 9 months ago
the galaxy s has better colors, but the iphone is much sharper.
n8se7 1 year ago
in my opinion samsung is won more collor is better super amoled
parfumatu007 1 year ago
The increase in pixels per inch is useless, as it cant be noticed by the naked eye, takes a microscope to see and great toll on the battery.
TFT technology depends on a backlit panel thus providing lower contrast, lower view angles and higher power requirements.
Coliekokker 1 year ago
Everyone thinks the S-AMOLED colors are oversaturated...really, OLED is the first technology to reproduce colors with any remote accuracy compared to any other screen technology that will fuck over your contrast and colors with the necessity of a backlight. There's no way you can argue that LCD has better anything except resolution-per-cost when it requires a bright white light to wash everything out.
ChaseKittens 1 year ago
@ChaseKittens Actually, IPS panels have incredible color reproduction.
PAPERCLlPS 1 year ago
@PAPERCLlPS They really don't. Because the LCD pixels produce very little color/light on their own, a bright white light has be shone through them in order for the screen to illuminate.
ChaseKittens 1 year ago
@ChaseKittens
On the other hand, there is slight local darkening, and the light is widely dispered. DO you really think technology is sooo primive to just shine a light through a screen? How does it have such a large viewing angle then...
Seriously man... Also SAMOLED due to very large gamut does cause lots of artefacts and banding issues, and that is worse IMO than some (very meagre) ghosting and non-existant light dispersion issues (its IPS man...)
ls600h1 1 year ago
@ls600h1 "How does it have such a large viewing angle then"
LCD screens have horrible viewing angles. They have good color viewing angles but the brightness angle differences is still a problem. Load up a completely black screen on the new iphone and look at how much it changes with the angle you look at it - a lot. AMOLED is the first technology to have a true 180 degree viewing angle. LCDs have no ability to reproduce darks or blacks (regardless of viewing angle). AMOLED black is black.
ChaseKittens 1 year ago
@ChaseKittens
Demented I tell you. The loss in brightness in IPS is above-average (like close to SAMOLED), but shift in colour and loss in contrast is LOWER THAN ON SAMOLED. And since its twice as bright anyways, it looks better on odd angles than any AMOLED display
AMOLED black is the only thing OLED has over LCD. Less bright overall, very power inefficient, and expensive. Also a bad colour gamut
ls600h1 1 year ago
@ls600h1 " but shift in colour and loss in contrast is LOWER THAN ON SAMOLED"
Plainly false. OLED is not susceptible to color shifting as LCDs are and contrast isn't even a contest.
"AMOLED black is the only thing OLED has over LCD. "
Plus response time, refresh rate, contrast ratio, viewing angle, color accuracy, physical flexibility....and it isn't just blacks - all darker (and to a lesser extent, brighter colors) colors are enhanced by not having a bright light shone through them.
ChaseKittens 1 year ago
@ChaseKittens
Check displaymate. The shift in colour and SHIFT IN CONTRAST (not just constrast) is greater
Response time - Ill give you that
Colour Accuracy - All lab comparison calibrated monitors are LCD. Even Adobe RGB acknowledges this.
Physical Flexibilty - No Application for this yet, and lets keep this strictly display
Brighter Colours - They both have 16.7m colours. Its not brighter its oversaturated. This proves you're an idiot
ls600h1 1 year ago
@ls600h1 "They both have 16.7m colours."
Stop confusing digital specs with practical end-results. A screen could have a color resolution of a kajillion - shining a bright light through it is a giant limitation to how accurately it could ever
"All lab comparison calibrated monitors are LCD."
Professional TV monitors are rarely flatscreen, but Adobe RGB goes by it because it's still the consumer standard. AMOLED screens are still barely a generation old.
ChaseKittens 1 year ago 2
@ChaseKittens
Actually no IPS, isn't a shining light a display, the colour is equally accurate throughout the display, and so is the brightness. You don't even get to know its LCD.
That is exactly my point. Current LCDs like the retina are matured and evolved LCD. AMOLED is still a young technology which has a long way to go. It will become superior, but Im comparing the current generatoin of both.
Actually there is a newer LCD display better than IPS. Forgot the name.
ls600h1 1 year ago
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@ls600h1 "Actually no IPS, isn't a shining light a display, the colour is equally accurate throughout the display, and so is the brightness."
Are you trolling? Yes, it's back-lit. No, there's not a way to shine a light through color pixels and retain perfect color, nor is there a way to have a perfect viewing angle with a backlight. It shines through differently at different angles.
ChaseKittens 1 year ago
Are you kidding me OLED is much better at colour reproduction. Were talking organic LEDs with minimal power consumption. Where on earth do you retards get your facts from? Youtube is NOT a source for factual knowledge!
You cant see the screens properly on this review...watch "iPhone 4 Vs Samsung Galaxy S Video Review Part 2" by Smartphoneenvy and read my comments on there.
Observe the images at 3:14 and 3:30...witness accurate colour reproduction by Samsungs AMOLED.
kunjarify 1 year ago
@kunjarify I'm all for SAMOLED screens but they are NOT the best with color reproduction. That title belongs to IPS LCD displays like the retina display, Mac Displays, Eizo displays, Dell Ultrasharps, etc. LCD's produce over a billion colors thus being able to display perfect gradiations while in all AMOLED displays you get steps.
PAPERCLlPS 1 year ago
@PAPERCLlPS
Yup they have alot of artefacts but I don't think that's a problem on SAMOLED
ls600h1 1 year ago
@ls600h1 Unfortunately it is. Someone in my family owns a captivate and I was able to notice it after placing some test images.
PAPERCLlPS 1 year ago
@PAPERCLlPS
I've used the Nexus and saw some serious issues image reproduction side. Galaxy S one the other hand I never noticed. Try updating to 2.2 (Froyo) I've read that 2.1 has 16bit dithering to 24bit Gallery application so the colours will be alot worse and less in number ergo some serious artefacts. This problem wasn't there in 2.0...
I never had the problem since I used a ROM that fixed that (just for safe measure though I never noticed i earlier)
Froyo fixes it aswell
ls600h1 1 year ago
@ls600h1 I run cognition custom rom with froyo on my captivate and still have the banding issues. You can notice this in the background of angry birds.
PAPERCLlPS 1 year ago
@PAPERCLlPS
Hmm, I really hate Angry Birds on my Galaxy S. Its ultra over BRIGHT. Looks sooo Gaudy...
Does look alot better on iPhone.
But they will probably work on a fix to reduce the software colour saturatin in the app specificaly for this device (or an option in some menu)
ls600h1 1 year ago
@PAPERCLlPS
Oh sorry ignore my previous reply, it was stupid... I don't think it can be fixed too simply via software changes
ls600h1 1 year ago
@kunjarify
You're calling us retarded SAMOLED is the most energy inefficient display type right now... check displaymate, or pcworld or gsmarena
ls600h1 1 year ago
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you all need to get laid...
rajeshj 1 year ago
nerd fight ...... :B
username9510 1 year ago
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OverDoseN97mini 1 year ago
rectina lack of contrast is most noticeable in darker scenes; in order to display a color close to black, the LCD shutters have to be turned to almost full opacity, limiting the number of discrete colors they can display. This leads to "posterizing" effects and bands of discrete colors that become visible in shadows. which is why many reviews of LCD TV's mention the "shadow detail".
mooseolly 1 year ago
@mooseolly
SAMOLED consume more than tripple power on whites which are half as bright.
On the average, LCD is also MUCH more artefact free, much more asthetic and pleasant.
ls600h1 1 year ago
@ls600h1: You're just another one of those idiots who thinks old technology is still better then the new more advanced one. The Super AMOLED screen is able to produce whiter whites, true black and beautifully saturate colors. Both Iphone 4 and Galaxy S (series) have over 16 million colors. I phone 4 is a bit sharper, the Galaxy's are more vibrant, detailed and saturated.
SAMOLED consumes almost no power at black and at white, almost as much as TFT LCD backlighting.
DarthProlif 1 year ago
@DarthProlif
1st of all it produces whites much bluer and half as bright while using triple the battery
Next iPhone is FAR sharper just in PPI, the RGBG Pentile makes the Galaxy S PPI closer to 160, and FAR less detailed.
Colours are less detailed on the SAMOLED, and colours are oversaturated and not vibrant.
It uses triple the power at white!! Not almost the same
ls600h1 1 year ago
@ls600h1: Have you even taken a look at an SAMOLED screen? I doubt it, where are you getting your info at? OLED is the future, LCD is going to be dead within a few years...
And colors cant be detailed, they're either saturated or not. Pixel density makes detail and if the Galaxy S series had the same amount of pixel density, then you guys wouldn't say a thing. And they had a OLED VS LCD power consumption compatrison, LCD basically stayed the same at 415 and OLED varied... low to high...
DarthProlif 1 year ago
@DarthProlif
lol, I own a Galaxy S :P.
I agree OLED will take over LCD but it hasn't yet. We have an underdeveloped OLED vs a fully evolved LCD here. OLED has alot of room for improvement.
Colours can be accurate, oversaturated or undersaturated. Saturation is quantity of variation in colours. It should be standard not too high like in the galaxy s..
And no, OLED use more power (very often triple) at every colour except pure black (even at almost pure black it used much more)
ls600h1 1 year ago
@ls600h1 If you say one more time that samoled consumes more power, Imma fire my lazah at you! Here's an idea: How about you post a link to a source to prove your point?
I'm really wondering where will you find a source that says how samoled consumes more... hmm...
4N0NYM0U557 1 year ago
@ls600h1 "LED use more power (very often triple) at every colour except pure black (even at almost pure black it used much more)"
AMOLED uses almost no power on black and very little any remotely dark color. It uses 3 times as much on pure white but only pure white, and drops off sharply from there. What you also omitted is that AMOLED technology doesn't require a backlight which takes up a considerable amount of power that the IPS LCD screen uses.
ChaseKittens 1 year ago
@ChaseKittens
Well said, but you are mistaken, only in the fully switched off state (pure black) does OLED use 0nit, lower than LCD. At something even slightly brighter it uses more power than an LCD. Backlight do drain power, but its still FAR less. Yes OLED are worst at whites and become a little more power efficient at blues and greens but still alot more than LCD in each case.
Displaymate called
SLCD - Very Green Display (Power Friendly)
OLED - Not A Green Display
ls600h1 1 year ago
@mooseolly
If you mean artefacts and I think you do, Nexus One's AMOLED was rated to have the MOST artefacts (even then the lousy 3gs display). AMOLED doesn't solve the problem
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mooseolly 1 year ago
Even in a fully switched-off state, liquid crystals allow some light to leak through the shutters. This limits their contrast ratios to about 1600:1 on the best modern sets, when measured using the ANSI measurement (ANSI IT7.215-1992)
mooseolly 1 year ago
@mooseolly
Yup, But compare whites. AMOLED has tops 262nits whites. iPhone is 561!. This also makes a huge day to day differnece unlike blacks
ls600h1 1 year ago
At the end of the test, he said that in the end there is no clear winner, but he still gave it to apple , y? because he scared being the haters of apple's fan like you. and that's a fact, he will want to favour the majority of people who already bought iphone4 and will end up gaining more fans, such as u.
mooseolly 1 year ago
@mooseolly
No, he gave because (and i quote) It fared the best overall.
Look at the comparison chart. iPhone fares better in more areas, and the more important areas (like sharpness is more important than OMFG BLACKS!!!)
ls600h1 1 year ago
since it has a higher ppi and size doesn't matters to both of u. this only shows both u and display mates are bias. btw display test is only done by one and only one person which is the professor himself. Nobody set the standard on the degree of things to test for. It is highly plausible he missed out other tests that will favour the super amoled. Is it better to trust source from a single person or an association. Think about it. N have you read the review of display on GSMarena?
mooseolly 1 year ago
@mooseolly
GSMArena is even more biased (ive followed it for years) and they're review are done by someone like you or me, paid to do it and no expert, the kind of guy who says "Wow Pretty colours!!".
Displaymate has many employees, BTW and do lab tests. They are highly regarded. They know they're way around these things. Display testing is their job! Highly unlikely they make an error in judgement. SAMOLED will destro SLCD, but it has some way to go. DIsplaymate concludes the same
ls600h1 1 year ago
@mooseolly
Oh and go on the Awards page on Dislpaymate. Every Magazine from PCWorld to Wired has quoted them and praised them
ls600h1 1 year ago
about the bulb i said like? because the whole frame is constantly on. and it interfer with the colours. Colours + torch shinning thru = wash out. Since you pin point your arguments on super amoled, shouldn't displaymate do his test on the wave instead of on galaxy S?
mooseolly 1 year ago
@mooseolly
No, Backlight does not wash out colours. Droid which is LCD IPS, has the most accurate colours (named by displaymate). LCD doesn't do this, it's a trade Apple made for better battery life and longer lasting display.
They tested Galaxy S because they were comparing Smartphones -.-
WHy not ask them to throw in an HDTV in that comparison, or a PSP or Zune...
ls600h1 1 year ago
wave has lower res than rectina but it is a superamoled that couple with it. Now you are saying superamoled sucks becos of the colours. I love it when you contradict yourself. Since you said it amoled spoils colours, then why did display mate gave it the best new technology? funny? not credible? I named samsung as the world's largest producer of LCD LED tv. They are experts in lcd and led unlike u, why the hell would they spend so much money to create the more expensive "inferior" super amoled?
mooseolly 1 year ago
@mooseolly
They gave it best new technology exactly because its display spoils colours as they clearly stated, it's new and advancing and will become better with improvements. If Retina is dull why did they give it best overall display award?
That once again means squat, LCD is undoubtedly inferior to AMOLED technology, but you have to see, this is TFT IPS SUper LCD with tiny pixels. It's evolved. SAMOLED is evolved AMOLED but has alot of room for improvement. It's relatively young
ls600h1 1 year ago
it really makes me wonder, 3gs has 165ppi and no one its complaining, and you get so defensive on your view that samoled on galaxy is pixelated. Go check out gsmarena, there are plenty of pics there to show how samoled is more superior than rectina. And samsung wave has a 283ppi, and more complains? I strongly suggest you sell your ego to get one for comparison since you mind more on ppi.
mooseolly 1 year ago
@mooseolly
I hated all prior iPhone displays. And times have changed. Earlier 165ppi was Average. In 3gs times, 165ppi was low, and there were many people complaining. But we aren't comparing 3gs are we?
I have used the wave before. I honestly find it a better display than Galaxy S's.
ls600h1 1 year ago
more games obviously because only recently has high end android phone surface, I thought you have many android devices and don't know about this? Rofl. More games on apple ? free games? Or do you need to jail break your phone per update to get em huh?
mooseolly 1 year ago
and another thing, please find those galaxy vs ip display and join in the comments by saying samoled colours sucks. I am so interested to see you get flamed. :) well I doubt you don't dare.you can do it here because the views are not that much spectacular. Try somewhere else and see if your ego works on the crowd. Oh yah the glare issue, are you smarter than samsung to prove that ip4 glass and the bulb light produce lower glare than samoled?
mooseolly 1 year ago
I have, go to my channel and see comments. I comment wherever there is injustice. Ive defended SAMOLED quite a few times
Bring up glare, then birng up acid.
Glare, where's glare? Use auto-brightness. There's never any glare
ls600h1 1 year ago
well since you only care about ppi and not the screen size, I suggest you take a better look at samsung wave which is super amoled plus higher ppi
mooseolly 1 year ago
@mooseolly
I have. It's still lower rez. They both are
ls600h1 1 year ago
and btw I think you do not understand what is colour gamut, go check the dictionary. Display mate already said rectina has super low colour gamut how can it generate more colours than amoled. You are really funny.
mooseolly 1 year ago
lcd was even using an older technology than led, and there you are trying to embarrass yourself with your glowy charcoal display. The rectina back light is like a single light bulb, like those ancient light bulb. No matter how the crystal s from lcd try to cover these light I'd like using a curtain to cover a torch. samoled sucky colours, oh tel that to samsung pls.who is selling more tv here, you? Apple? Joke
mooseolly 1 year ago
@mooseolly
Single Bulb? LCD Backlight is a single BULB? Get your facts right mate.
Is there a SINGLE SAMOLED TV? NO Samoled don't come in more than 4" ATM and a 7" is in production. NO TV. Apple doesn't sell TV's. Lets ask, WHo is selling more PC's/Laptops. Apple! Cuz Samsung doesn't sell any.
ls600h1 1 year ago
count what ? Counter yourself? First you said videos have more whites than blacks and someone quote display maye as saying the opposite, then you say no one looks closely at pixels and you did. And now you are saying again something that quote off from others people work.arent you behaving like a moron? Words from reputable website become part of your law.
mooseolly 1 year ago
@mooseolly
No, I never said look closely at the pixels, But the sharpness can be spotted without looking any closer than 11-12 inches!!
And no, I don't CARE what other websites say. I own both phones and my opinion is my law.
ls600h1 1 year ago
rectina is only good when it shows u that the edge of every black lines boundaries is being displayed smoothly, but that doesn't means for the whole part of the photo it is showing a pop out type of effects like you see on the Samoled. When the colour pops out it is like the image come to life on your screen. Rectina is still dull and plain and washed out and the only thing that it did better are on non moving words.
mooseolly 1 year ago
Why do women do makeups? This is because the colours they put on their face produce different shades and layers thus bringing in a whole new level of effects. Having so much colours on the Samoled at it's disposal simply means it has the ability to produce lot more "pop out" images and it is only a joy to marvel. For 1 single colour spectrum, Samoled is able to produce many many similar colours to represent the photo. I emphasize on layers because it brings details of the shades as well.
mooseolly 1 year ago
@mooseolly
iPhone has more colours 0.38m vs 1.23. Also because its RGB and not RGBG as in pentile, it can display more colours even without its higher rez. It only is defeated in Blue's and Blacks' it does better whites, reds, oranges, yellows Green is bad on both.
Makeup is an art. They have makeup courses and artists. It isn'y just dumping saturation, its smart polishing. SAMOLED just increases the saturation, BOOM. Gaudy Yucky colours
ls600h1 1 year ago
the super amoled screen is just amazing. black is black even when you rotate the screen which ever angle you look at it...it's still black unlike an LCD.
cz27227348 1 year ago
@cz27227348
I know...
ls600h1 1 year ago
You haf flash on ur phone + overclocked gpu, does it means the majority of the people need to jailbreak like you once every month? you are misleading the people out there that can do what you can do. do they have the time to do like what you do? Can achieve and readily available are 2 separate issues.
mooseolly 1 year ago
@mooseolly
Im not using this as an angle to debate, I'm just showing not to bring Software into this, like you brought up SGS's better GPU. I countered it by saying what I did. Leave sofware out of this and so will I.
ls600h1 1 year ago
And the games made for iphone and ported to android are OBVIOUSLY having no flaws with the iphones. Because that is how they designed to be. How can you use a game that is made for iphone and ported elsewhere as comparison since ip4 has lower specs, obviously sgs will have no problem running too. Conversely if a game is designed for sgs while making full use of it's potentials and ran on ip4, flaws can be seen easily.
mooseolly 1 year ago
To Games.
Gameloft hasn't done lots of games. HOS2, Ganstar MV, MC BP2, Spiderman etc.
NOVA 2 says on trailer coming soon for iOS.
Infinity Gene, Battlefield Bad Company 2, RAGE, etc. All amazing games coming to iOS. UE3 SDK means all games will get 2x better in the next few months. HOS is on Android ans iOS. Its sequal has been out for many months on iOS, no word on Android. DOnt compare Games. Lower specs? Only lower GPU!! Thats it
ls600h1 1 year ago
3gs has lower ppi than sgs, don't see anyone complaining. Look at the votes dude, where is ur rectina votes? Are you saying the majority of people are blind when it comes to judging beauty? You are making yourself a public hater.
mooseolly 1 year ago
@mooseolly
Lol yes, I am saying the population are idiots.
The people voting are also people who have never seen either screen, I can gurauntee it.
ls600h1 1 year ago
To not able to appreciate the power of different layers of textures and colours by blindly following resolutions, that is typical of u. Different layters of colours do make the images look more detailed than using high contrast to forcibly create colours ending up losing much details.
mooseolly 1 year ago
Layes, Hmmm LED has many layers? Its pentatonic RGBG display, with only one layer, no backlight cuz led emit their own light. If anything LCD has the pixel layer and then the backlight so 2 layers...(it means nothing, your point is poetic but meaningless)
Resolution is the most important thing anyways.
I agree with the contrast thing. Same thing when a screen adds too much colour losing detail accuracy power etc etc
ls600h1 1 year ago
White's on Galaxy S are dull, uninspiring and blue-ish to say the least.
ROFL, Have you even turn up the samoled brightness to see if white is blue? if not don't bark here. All the talks about resolution, boy u r such a fan, is everything about display only resolution? you already have a mindset there at the back of your mind, greater resolution = clear win. but you neglect the fact that washed out blacks discounted the whole definition of the image.
mooseolly 1 year ago
@mooseolly
I have, I have put both displays side by side. Guess what I saw
Blacks can never be washed out, its incorrect usage of words but i get your point. However in even 0.1 ambient lighting, the black level mean nothing as both screens are reflective (albeit very little so) and so blacks mean SQUAT in day2day usage, unless you lock yourself in the basement, lights off (brave enough?) and whoopee
ls600h1 1 year ago
And well if you keep insist that under-saturated colours looks better, so be it. But for most of the population out there, they like vibrant colours better. You are the odd one out that's all. The white on super amoled is so exaggerating thought to be blue. Look at the device physically and it is white not blue like some people has made up to be. And when you zoom into a pic at max on rectina, the smoothed out pic you get is unrealistic, non existence pixels generated by the software. unreal?
mooseolly 1 year ago
@mooseolly
Don't tell me you come into the "most of the population" category. Most of the world is illiterate or unknowledgable in these matters and anyways "most of the world" uses an iPhone (compares to Galaxy S series).
White's on Galaxy S are dull, uninspiring and blue-ish to say the least.
I didn't understand your third point but ONVIOUSLY it's software side, something I'm NOT discussing...
ls600h1 1 year ago
OpenFeint (world's largest mobile gaming developer community) have announced that they are embracing Android, and Google have appointed a new head of their Android gaming department. So it is a matter of time before the gyroscope on galaxy s can be shown that it is capable of doing what iphone4 has.
mooseolly 1 year ago
@mooseolly
Good to hear!
(BTW I have more Android devices than you would believe :p, I'm not an apple fanboi as you might think. Android owns iOS anyday, atleast for a techy)
ls600h1 1 year ago
Now there are more and more game developers embracing android. It is only possible that games can make the best out from galaxy's GPU which cannot be done on the rectina! simply because of rectina high resolution, pixels gets pushed out slower than our normal tft monitor! fast motions games will have ghosting on rectina =)
mooseolly 1 year ago
@mooseolly
There is no ghosting even on games which use 300mb RAM like Epic Citadel or MC2.
The Display is well balanced with Display, as opposed to Galaxy S which has too low a rez to make full use of its incredible GPU. With my overclocked (actually normal 1ghz clocked) iPhone processor and some plit editing the GPU comes upto closer to 45m pps. Stable, obviously decreases battery but while 3d games only. Just an FYI
ls600h1 1 year ago
another thing is, given ip4 to be 4inch, it is not going to be pixeless from naked eyes. I don't know why you are so proud of the pixel density when the screen is smaller . Amoled is the future display technology, tft can't do the follow:
watch?v=fPY7WYBtq8w&feature=related
watch?v=f8S8tbQMp2k&feature=related
stop trying to defend tft ffs .
Further more samsung uses dNIE technology on galaxy s, pics, videos, are much crispier than you expect.
mooseolly 1 year ago
isheep calling others' fanboys. funny. Do you know what is fan boy? Fanboy is like following a series of something blindly. As far as i remember there is no Galaxy A, or Galaxy B to Galaxy S? just because people like galaxy s doesn't means they are fanboys like you. and galaxy s won eisa 2010-2011
mooseolly 1 year ago
Apple marketing is genius but the products aren't. Reason the Iphone4 has such high pixel density is because IPS-LCD is cheaper/older technology. Thusly, of an AMOLED and LCD screen for the same price, the LCD will have a higher resolution; but the AMOLED will have a greater contrast ratio, more colors, greater viewing angle, true blacks (no backlight!), higher refresh rate...
But Apple knows the non-expert can only list res for a screen spec, so it's what they implement and advertise. Clever.
ChaseKittens 1 year ago
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Gal S doesn't have is the resolution, but it's got better contrast, viewing angle, darker blacks, much more colors and greater size.
leepey1 1 year ago
The point that Super amoled uses more power is valid but don't miss out the fact that Galaxy S is having a 1500mah battery while the ip4 is 1420mah. That will roughly make up for it.
leepey1 1 year ago
@leepey1
Yes, but with the processor, more green friendly display, iOS and better power management, it lasts longer
ls600h1 1 year ago
And I don't get it, rectina isn't natural colour too. why would he insist on natural colours when the rectina is too under saturated and unnatural. Doesn't makes any sense. The conclusion is both display are unnatural colours, one over and one under. But the Super amoled looks better on images, videos & games while the rectina looks better on texts.
leepey1 1 year ago
@leepey1
Retina looks better on games, natural pictures and texts.
SAMOLED does better on video's and blacks.
It does better on natural cuz of its amazing whites, were the peak a while ago. Well above double SAMOLED. Also it has 6 times the amount of colours.
ls600h1 1 year ago
@ls600h1
nope, on games, super amoled is better due to faster screen response time 1micro sec vs 25ms?No ghosting on very fast motion games.
mooseolly 1 year ago
@mooseolly
conceded. Is that due to display, or GPU? GPU probably so inconsequential in this pure display arguement. On 960x640 rez display games look incredible and detail is incredible. On SAMOLED the curves look fuzzy and pixels are easy to spot. Also its too bright at times and looks gaudy. Gaming experience is alot better on iPhone despite lower response time. They both have amazing frame rates.
ls600h1 1 year ago
@ls600h1
well i bring in the GPU bcoz it optimise what the super amoled on galaxy s can do over the rectina. When holding your phone at comfortable position while gaming, you can't actually spot the pixels on galaxy's super amoled, let alone moving images. The argument now is Super amoled vs rectina , and naturally people compare the super amoled on galaxy s with ip4 rectina. Suppose Super amoled on let's say galaxy X has the same pixels density as rectina, there is nothing to compare anymore.
mooseolly 1 year ago
@mooseolly
That is not true, you can see pixels easily and the jagged/fuzziness, all due to a display that isnt too sharp.
And ofcourse if SAMOLED gets 326 ppi it'll be the best. But iPhone will still have better brightness and lot's of other stuff like lower shift in contrast.
BUT Samoled doesn't have 326dpi. When it does it'll be a clearcut winner -.-
ls600h1 1 year ago
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Opps I think you can't Because rectina is just plain rubbish, just like you. I even suspect you have to resort to video editing if you are going to make the video lol. Pwned
mooseolly 1 year ago
Opps I think you can't Because rectina is just plain rubbish, just like you. I even suspect you have to resort to video editing if you are going to make the video lol. Pwned
mooseolly 1 year ago
@ls600h1
And you are asking who uses magnifying glass to watch displays? I know!
engadget! here is it:
watch?v=O1Ingx2WMfs
iluvxinhua 1 year ago
@iluvxinhua
Thats true, Im not a huge fan of Engadget. BUT the poster of this vid is, he reviews/writes for them doesn't he?
ls600h1 1 year ago
A picture speak a thousand words lest video? My ideas cant be driven into your retarded mind hence I have no choice but to show you the proof. But it ends up you're still stubborn and don't want to admit that Super amoled looks better than rectina. Stubbornness wont turn the truth around mind you.
mooseolly 1 year ago
@is600h1
Well the reason y iphone is selling more is because of steve jobs' marketing. All his craps upon isheeps = sales.
And the reason why there are so many videos out there to trash rectina because it is a worse display. It just get amusing when you keep insist that rectina looks better than S amoled LOL, fyi my bro has iphone4 and we compared to image viewing, video & game playing in a dark room. The rectina just looks worse. Take it or leave it. Super amoled looks nicer than rectina.
mooseolly 1 year ago
samoled screens are very rich. retina is kinda dull. not much different than lcd.
fredmagic09 1 year ago
@fredmagic09 Retina IS an LCD, just with high pixel density.
4N0NYM0U557 1 year ago
@4N0NYM0U557
It's also IPS and dubbed as SUPER LCD, cuz its display is very close to the glass. Like SAMOLED =D. Nearly nothing bw capacitive touchscreen and the display. Greatly improves angles viewing and just viewing altogether
ls600h1 1 year ago
@ls600h1 Super LCD ≠ Retina
4N0NYM0U557 1 year ago
@4N0NYM0U557
What is Super LCD, does it really exist. It's just a term I coined. SUPER Amoled is AMOLED with display closer to surface and eliminating a few layers. Apple's is LCD with TFT IPS, and with its display close to the surface (on the glass, looks amazing) and layers eliminated. It's just a term coined by a couple of people. Super Amoled is a marketing aswell. Its superior to Amoled. Same with Super LCD (Droid X and Retina)
ls600h1 1 year ago
@4N0NYM0U557
WHAT? This just shows your disregard for facing facts.
It's TFT, with IPS, Amazing viewing angles and good blacks for LCD and BEST whites. Great brightness more power efficient then a regular LCD.
Main part, it's practically on the glass of the display with very little reflectance. Retina is asmuch LCD as SAMOLED is regular Amoled
ls600h1 1 year ago
@ls600h1 Still, Super LCD ≠ Retina. Just because Retina is as big as an improvement to regular LCD displays as SAMOLED is to AMOLED, or SLCD to LCD, that does not make them the same. Quite the opposite actually. They are very different and, as we have already concluded, both have their pros and cons.
Now, if you wish to continue this discussion about which one is better, go right ahead, I'm sure that someone is listening. I'm out.
4N0NYM0U557 1 year ago
i have to laugh at all comments becuz
one say its over saturated and other say its dull
if u watch something with interest (with some sense) u dont find difference.
do u watch movies/videos on phone for clarity ? or for entertainment ?
iphone has gyroscope does samsung has it ?
samsung has flash (flash on internet) does iphone has it ?
who cares ?
accelrometer is more than enough who needs gyro and who has that much time to walk around and play with gyro ?
but iphone has youtube app
cdnml 1 year ago
@cdnml Galaxy S has a gyro and YouTube app XD
"do u watch movies/videos on phone for clarity? or for entertainment?"
But I agree with that! ;)
4N0NYM0U557 1 year ago
@4N0NYM0U557
Clasrification for the second time. It has 6-axis Accelerometer, and not a gyroscope
ls600h1 1 year ago
@ls600h1
And just like how apple names it rectina for tft
Gyroscope works exactly like the 6-axis accelerometer
iluvxinhua 1 year ago
@cdnml
I have flash on iPhone =D. google frash
ls600h1 1 year ago
Consolidating pro - SuperAmoled videos (list still rolling)
watch?v=QIUCtgBYs-4&feature=re-lated watch?v=dA9oTNhSRaw watch?v=lRkb75gjVD0 watch?v=E_vPxDDpMWg watch?v=vjPxNadNm8M watch?v=Zn3oN040L1Y watch?v=VOzz8Zg-5kM watch?v=xiO3s8NdQ34 watch?v=SRHonmYY7S0 watch?v=CgjXYLGbXXk watch?v=u1-zJ-MPR0o I accept any challenger to provide more videos to show that rectina is better.
mooseolly 1 year ago
@mooseolly
Lol, don't tell me. You have never used both displays have you?
SAMOLED has more fanboi's (who post video's on youtube). Therefore it's better?
If you want numbers would you like to compare iPhone 4 sales vs Galaxy S sales. Didn't think so. Stop posting rubbish. Debate if you want.
ls600h1 1 year ago
watch?v=QIUCtgBYs-4&feature=related
another video which shows the pale and plain rectina ^^
mooseolly 1 year ago
@ls600h1 You keep talking about pixels right? When playing video, most of the times there are shadows. With people/objects + camera lights/ sun = shadows. And when there are BLACKS, THERE IS ARE NO PIXELS ON THE SUPER AMOLED. EVEN IF YOU USE A MICROSCOPE U CAN'T SEE ANY PIXELS ON THE DARK SPOT. BUT YOU CAN CERTAINLY SEE PIXELS ON THE RECTINA EVERYWHERE ON THE SCREEN WITH A MAGNIFYING GLASS (YUP NOT MICROSCOPE). Sorry for the caps, I am just excited that i made a new science discovery.Howz that?
huiling88ful 1 year ago
@huiling88ful
1. That's true but only with blacks which are o so rarely used when browsing or movies/pictures.
2. You don't use Magnifying Glasses when using phones, do YOU
3. In everything except blacks SAMOLED is pixelated quite noticabely
And no you didn't discover anything lolwut?
ls600h1 1 year ago
@ls600h1
Wrong? lemme help him ans
quotes from displaymate:
"Of course, if you’re a crazed movie buff who loves to watch movies on smartphones, you might be able to get more battery life out of your OLED smartphone than if you were surfing the net. The reason being that most movies are on average much darker than a typical website."
iluvxinhua 1 year ago
@ls600h1
and oh now you say no one is using magnifying glass to watch phone display, then what is the fuzz on rectina? when you hold the phone the normal way, the Samoled is still crisp and clear. That again is contradicting on your side? You have display doubts over displaymate's quotes and now tell us we should not look so close to the screen, very anti rectina indeed. n1
iluvxinhua 1 year ago
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@ls600h1 You keep talking about pixels right? When playing video, most of the times there are shadows. With people/objects + camera lights/ sun = shadows. And when there are BLACKS, THERE IS ARE NO PIXELS ON THE SUPER AMOLED. EVEN IF YOU USE A MICROSCOPE U CAN'T SEE ANY PIXELS ON THE DARK SPOT. BUT YOU CAN CERTAINLY SEE PIXELS ON THE RECTINA EVERYWHERE ON THE SCREEN WITH A MAGNIFYING GLASS (YUP NOT MICROSCOPE). Sorry for the caps, I am just excited that i made a new science discovery.Howz that?
huiling88ful 1 year ago
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mooseolly 1 year ago
@ls600h1
Don't gimme the crap about stretching, because you keep emphasize on natural. But seriously, aren't those movies that goes up to the big screen also "graphically enhanced"? Are those great arts by Leonardo using fake colours as well. imo you just ain't someone who appreciate beauty. The super amoled is indeed beautiful enuff said.
mooseolly 1 year ago
@mooseolly
Yes but those are all done in moderation and not just completely increasing colour saturation. Is that what you think Editing movies is? Turning Saturation bar up?
Is that what Da Vinci's genius is?
And FYI you started the Natural Aesthetic arguement.
And SAMOLED is beautiful, I never said it isn't.
ls600h1 1 year ago
@ls600h1
Are you a professional video editor ? stfu, you don't know anything about it.
FYI, galaxy S can be connected wirelessly via a dLNA TV if you want to edit any video. Bigger screen and most natural colours, any complains? Can your iphone do that ?
And you said I am posting the videos that are bias rofl. You say you are holding the two phones every night why don't you take a video of the 2 and show us how your rectina looks better than Super amoled?
mooseolly 1 year ago
@mooseolly
He probably can't and may need to resort to video editing
leepey1 1 year ago
@ls600h1
To fit 16:9 into 15:10, you will have a thin black line on top and cut-out sides.
To fit 16:9 into a 15:9 , you will have a cut-out side only. The difference get more obvious when your videos have subtitles, thin black lines on top + inherent subtitle blacks on bottom, making the screen looks really small, especially on a 3.5 inch.
mooseolly 1 year ago
@mooseolly
You have a 960x640 display. It shows more content anyways so you could technically just minimize the movie (with obvious downsides). Ofcourse, your point is obviously valid. The low aspect ratio is disturbing for such another otherwise high-end display.
ls600h1 1 year ago
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mooseolly 1 year ago
@ls600h1
lol I am still laughing at your futile effort There I am posting so many videos on how Super amoled beats the rectina, and obviously more people like the Super amoled. Come on it is the best technology, who wouldn't want it in their hands. I really get irritated when people try to over assert themselves and keep saying super amoled is grainy this and that. Yup I was wrong that the A4 doesnt use 45nm but you are wrong too.
mooseolly 1 year ago
OK guys check out this site, it shows they're displays, wifi speeds and battery life. iPhone clearly wins on all 3. It also shows Software which Galaxy S ofcourse won in. Sorry for posting a link, I could see no other way
careaceDOTnet/2010/08/17/iphone-4-and-galaxy-s-comparison-test/
replace DOT with "."
ls600h1 1 year ago
watch?v=dA9oTNhSRaw
watch?v=lRkb75gjVD0
more comparisons, one of which is from Phone arena.
mooseolly 1 year ago
"Besides the LCD mounted on the iPhone 4 has out-of-this-world viewing angles and manages to do something we never believed possible. It turns out that from extremely tight viewpoints the iPhone actually looks a bit better. However, considering that no one actually looks at their phone screen from such steep angles it’s a fact interesting to scientists but irrelevant to users." quotes from gsmarena
iluvxinhua 1 year ago
watch?v=E_vPxDDpMWg
watch?v=vjPxNadNm8M
more comparisons on images and videos. ^^
mooseolly 1 year ago
Galaxy S on the other hand is crisp on words and VERY VERY sharp on colours, unrivaled. It is as if the colours pop out ! So if you are saying the screen that is most sharp wins the day, I am betting on the Super amoled.
leepey1 1 year ago
@leepey1
COLOUR ON GALAXY S IS SUCKY, ASK THE POSTER OF THIS VIDEO WHO DEFENDS SAMOLED, the colours are very over saturated, more than i4 is under saturated
ls600h1 1 year ago
@ls600h1 If you're going to to talk in plural, say "colors ARE" not "is"
Anyway, Colors are "sucky" is that your "scientific knowledge" and "scientific opinion"? Get a clue... Swallow your ego for 2 minutes and just click on those fucking red annotations @2:00!
4N0NYM0U557 1 year ago
Rectina is only sharp on words and not sharp on colour. On a webpage it is not showing more details. It is just displaying the same detail over more pixels, lower resolution screens also display the SAME content. And the ip4 most of the times has too little colours to work with and end up trying to go on high contrast to differentiate the colours more and resulting in washed out colours .
leepey1 1 year ago
Not forgetting the superb video formats on galaxy S: MPEG4, H.263, H.264, DivX, XviD, WMV, AVI, 3GP, FLV, MKV Which makes it a very formidable video player ^^
mooseolly 1 year ago
@mooseolly
We're not comparing those, software side, android owns ios, don't muddle things up
ls600h1 1 year ago
watch?v=Zn3oN040L1Y
watch?v=VOzz8Zg-5kM
watch?v=xiO3s8NdQ34
watch?v=SRHonmYY7S0
watch?v=CgjXYLGbXXk
watch?v=u1-zJ-MPR0o
Graphics backed by powerVGR SGX540 on the galaxy s, power consumption on galaxy's A8's 45nm as opposed to A4's 65nm, allows videos to be played 7 hours on a full charge. Not forgetting the aspect ratio of galaxy s to be 15:9 closest to the usual 16:9 on most vids compared to the 3:2. Difference gets more noticeable on vids with subtitles.
mooseolly 1 year ago
Graphics I am aware, but look at the games on either, they're both top of the line. Galaxy wins this one.
Processor, they are exactly the same Arm cortex A8. A4 is 45nm aswell. Tie
Battery, iPhone wins this. iOS, Greener Screen underclocked processor, hence iPhone has higher battery life. Check your pm, Ill send you a comparison.
Aspect Ratio, yes 15:9 is alot smaller than 3:2.
ls600h1 1 year ago
@mooseolly
BTW 3:2 is 15:10. Very close to 15:9 >.<
ls600h1 1 year ago
Is600h1, do me a little favor. Click those read annotations (2:00), watch both videos and reply to this comment saying what did you see.
4N0NYM0U557 1 year ago
@4N0NYM0U557
lol, Im not going to bother, I HAVE BOTH PHONES, I SEE THEM EVERYDAY IN MY PALMS
ls600h1 1 year ago
@ls600h1 Then load the same image on both phones, turn off the lights, close the blinds and open your eyes!
No fucking wonder you believe the SAMOLED is too saturated because you're used to looking at that washed out, terribly under-saturated and dull rectina display... FFS!
4N0NYM0U557 1 year ago 2
@4N0NYM0U557
Yeah true. Videcamera sensor and then common TFT display just can't reproduce SAMOLED contrast.
ahbahpuh 1 year ago