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  • @penn919 Please help my thinking? How does one "volunteer for prison" for someting that is not even a crime.

    Second, how can you say she's "reaping the benefits" of what she has done. She could be in AGONY every day about having ended the lives of two of her children. Try reaping that for the rest of your life. It's not the same a getting a wart removed, most women have strong maternal instincts that may be squelched for a time while thinking about their convenience but long-term may come out

  • Abortion..... Bringing out the kid in teenagers since the coat hanger!

  • @Proteanview So if someone has ever told a lie they can't say that lying is wrong. If I ever got in a fight I can't say assault is wrong. People's views can change. People do repent. Poor argument due to fallacious logic.

  • @BrotherofWord

    You can take what ever stance you want on any given issue, but merely changing your position on something like lying or fighting is completely different. We're talking about A women who had two abortions who now wants to classify them as MURDER and not merely as things that are wrong. she should be volunteering her ass to prison rather than condemning others as criminals for something she herself did and is now reaping the benefits from.

    Think a bit before posting.

  • I agree! It's also ironic when people like Newt Gingrich or Rush Limbaugh go around "fighting for the sanctity of marriage" when they've been married several times.

  • Don't you hated it that some people want spread they're moral bullshit when they are nothing but hypocritical scumbags?

  • Abortion is a great thing. Ive been responsible for 3 of them

  • Abortion is murder? I don't know about that but assassinating doctors who work at abortion clinics is.

  • @DrHeinersSanatorium OMG! I've just shown my ignorance to the whole YT world. I must get that Complete Works of Shakespeare and do some homework. Doh!

  • I think some of you who are fervently pro-abortion need to look at the numbers, just as proteanview did with drug laws. There is tremendous racial disparity with abortions, and if you go back and learn how abortion as a social policy was implemented in this country, those racial disparities were a sought after goal. In the abstract of course there is good reason to support abortion, but does the abstract justify our reality where minorities are essentially targeted for abortion?

  • Even Goldwater, one of the 'founders' of the modern conservative movement, HATED the Religious Right and was so sick of how radical the GOP became not even 30 years after he ran for president.

  • This ain't 1620.

  • The authoritarian mindset typically claims it's "just helping society", no matter what form it takes. I still can't believe Americans fall for that SHIT! WAKE UP, right-wingers. Wake up, conservative Democrats, esp. in the South.

  • I'm not buying that crap one bit about how they LOVE AMERICA SO MUCH that they wanna "save our moral fiber", and THAT'S the "reason" why they wanna ban shit like gay marriage or abortion.

  • Salvation, projection, guilt trips, homophobia, femiphobia, you name it

  • The magnitude of baggage and mental problems are almost indescribable when it comes to evangelical conservatives.

  • These people will only TRULY be "saved" once they ban those things which THEY already did but feel guilty about because they were brainwashed by OTHER conservatives before them to think it's "sooo wrong." By BANNING that shit, they will not be able to do it again without a) feeling guilty and/or b) getting 'punished', which will REINFORCE their conscious subconscious views of how 'dirty' these "sinful" acts really are.

  • Max Blumenthal documents all the baggage that the Religious Right has TREMENDOUSLY in his book "Republican Gomorrah." He shows DOZENS of Religious Right leaders and family values Republicans who have 'sinned' at least a few times or have serious mental problems, and I suspect this is EXACTLY why they feel the need to a) try to force everyone to be "pristine" like them and b) why they feel the need to reinforce the idea that "salvation' is best.

  • What's always confused me is it's religious people who are against abortion. Many consider the mother to be a "filthy whore who can't be a good mother". They also talk about how we're "born sinners, and sin keeps us from God". A fetus is sinless, & God is "loving". Say if Christianity is true, & a woman has an abortion, that means: A. the child gets a free ticket to Heaven, or B. God will move its soul to a fetus wanted by the mother. You'd think Christians would be more pro-choice than anyone.

  • Well it's not a shock she'd have a guilt trip, considering the church teaches us that people who have consenting sex with an adult of their own gender, they're "equivalent" to pedophiles.

    A religion of love would never want to make one have low self esteem. That alone should speak about the god of the religion and its followers.

  • MY SPERM JUST DIED DUE TO EXPOSURE! Take me to jail! :'(

  • christians? hypocrites? nooooo

  • I'm ALWAYS suspicious of those who always wanna take a strong stance against something...it's usually because they are guilty of the same stuff that they are crucifying others for!

  • @DrHeinersSanatorium Methinks the lady doth protest too much. From the "scottish play", as you know well Doc! I forgot who said it though. It wasn't actually MacBeth. Bugger, that's ten years bad luck. ; ) 

  • I think women who recklessly sleep around (don't know who the father is), get pump-n-dumped, "ride the carousel", and end up aborting multiple unborn babies (especially mid/late term) just so they can return back to a whoredom/party lifestyle, are utterly vile and selfish beyond comprehension. I use to be an avid supporter of abortions too. "Oh hell yeah girl, abort! I ain't tryna...", until I met a chick that said she had 5 abortions, FIVE! Again, for recklessly sleeping around. Disgusting.

  • Tu quoque... Now that I've gotten your logical fallacy out of the way, explain this one to me... How can something that is objectively human, and objectively alive not be a human life? Logic would demand that we reason it is in fact a human life. The taking of innocent human life is murder, so tell me, how is killing something that is both objectively human and alive NOT murder?

  • Some link to the original source? This way it just hangs in the air.

  • Actually, her position makes a lot of sense. We often make mistake when we are young that we only understand when we're older. You can bet your ass she leave with built. And she probably thought the least she could do is warm others. But maybe she's going a little to far. She could just work to warm others about the consequence of abortion.

  • @MustacheVerra i don't think being judgmental makes much sense. i wonder if, with he new conviction, she would choose to have both babies now, especially if she's poor. i wonder if she had felt the same way then as she does now, if she'd have the two babies

  • like your hair man !

  • hahaha I double dare you to make this into a "study" with science and the works. People who anti this and that are more likely to be the very thing they are against. Pro life people bombed 1.6 million Iraq too. Go bible! I wonder if atheist are in love with war and bombs like the bible folk seem to be. If I were the devil the bible would be first thing I would create. It worked so far.

  • You have made a very interesting point my friend...

    PERCEPTION is a wonderful thing...what a unifier...LOL

  • I'll go ahead and sum this up...

    She's a fucking moron.

  • nice haircut.

  • you notice how old ladies are always the most religious people? sometime after their hormones cool off they become really judgmental about sex. hypocritical hags.

  • Shes is going to hell

  • well which is it? Did she murder two babies or not? Is it wrong for people to see the error of their ways and oppose it? Is it wrong for a convicted murderer to say murder is wrong? Your argument is wrong. I'm no fundamentalist Christian, but any idiot knows abortion is indeed murder. Not only is it right to judge those doing wrong, it's required in any society. You are very hypocritical and short-sighted in saying no one should judge others. You are doing the very same thing to her.

  • @Donnybrook10 He is saying that she is being a hypocrite because she hasnt thrown herself in jail for her two murders. And no abortion is not murder. Just like masturbation is not mass murder you buffoon. Sperm cells are alive too you know.

  • I love when he says, "unmitigated gall". lol

  • Chris Hedges writes about this in, "Amereica Fascists: the Christian Right & the war on America". Read it.

  • @ImproveYourMagic yes, i own that book. that was my introduction to chris hedges existence. one of the best books i ever.

  • “He does not believe that does not live according to his belief.”

    ― Sigmund Freud

    “All of us have to be prevaricators, hypocrites, and liars every day of our lives; otherwise the social structure would fall into pieces the first day. We must act in one another's presence just as we must wear clothes. It is for the best”

    ― O. Henry

    Why are people so hypocritical? I really don't know. That is for them to answer.

  • the dreads are gone :-(

  • Most people eat babies everyday, although of other species.

  • See what happened to your locks mate? Don't play in the dryer.

  • It is murder. It's Hidden murder.

    (fade away in the shadows)

  • so she thinks the government should have decided for her and every other woman? she didn't regret it the first time she did it.

  • It is murder damn it.

  • oi ed new haircut

  • Rick Santorum's wife...?

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  • I'm not religious, I'm quite libertarian, but I'm sorry.. if you look at what Abortion is, it's pretty messed up, I don't think you have to be a religious whacko to kind of feel uneasy about it's practice... people who are for it typically delude themselves about what the procedure even is. I think Abortions should be limited to a very early stage and I push for more things like the morning after pill, I think doing an abortion after a few weeks is just sick.

  • @jkessler410

    Like you I am not religious and I look at abortion from a science/nature perspective. It is patently obvious to anyone who does modest research that after conception by only a few weeks, you have a viable life growing. The human heart starts beating about 21 days. Most nations around the world have an abortion cutoff at 10 weeks and even that is late. America is the outlier here.

    -

  • @kmg501 Agreed, I don't get how they think it's hypocritical to make a stance based on experience and age regretting stupid things they did in their youth, is it not worse that most people who are Vegan and refuse to eat an animal because they are against killing are almost 100% of the time pro abortion? politically I'm in a grey area in it between considering it a horrible and wrong practice while also not wanting the feds to run peoples lives.

  • @jkessler410 It's all intellectual integrity. Those vegans are about as bad as pro-lifers who think nothing about wars of conquest and imperialism. All hypocrites.

  • @NwZ2 And you're a fucking moron. "Those pro-lifers who think nothing about wars". Punch yourself for saying something so stupid. This is like saying "Those gays in the military who make war and kill others"...they are two different groups jackass. You're very confused.

  • @Donnybrook10 why so angry? need a hug?

  • Like Gingrich said listen to what I say now what I do. XD

  • Please say this is a repeat and that you didn't cut off your hair! Noooooooo! =) GREAT POST, btw!

  • Why the haircut??

  • You are correct. Abortion is murder, war is murder, and we accept it as moral when it suits us. Time for this consciousness shift. 5, 4,3,2,NOW.

  • @tburke64 Killing is never moral, and most dont see it as such even in war, its justifiable in some wars, but its never moral.

  • Speaking from a non religious POV I am against government involvement in personal relationships for any reason other than required legal recognition for the purposes of claims in medical care, insurance, estate management, etc.

    The only paperwork that a state should issue for those purposes is: "Writ of Recognition of Domestic Partnership". That way, any two or more adults of any gender can request such writs. And as long as I am not personally forced to recognize anything I disagree with.

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  • Yes, it's true. She's a hypocrite but that's ok because she found baby jesus. All is forgiven and now she can judge us all because she is pure as the driven snow. What ever the fuck that means. Will the same excuse work for Charlie Manson? No way. All they gotta do is use the old reliable No True Scotsman fallacy. Besides, Chuck enjoys (and plays) Rock N' Roll music. We all know that's the devils work.

  • Well if I was so messed up in the head that I thought my undead ghost fetuses were going to drag me to hell when I died I'd be kinda weird about it to.

    These people are partially detached from reality you know...

  • I absolutely agree, those that judge harshly and most often usually have more skeletons to hide...I like to new hair, but miss the longer locks

  • i miss protean view...ok now ill watch the video.

  • @betamaxdc DC!!!!

  • abortion raises the risk of breastcancer i heared

  • Don't see how abortion and homosexual marriage are related. The female has the ability to procreate heterosexually, but not homosexually. That used to be what marriage was about. Preserving the family unit for population levels of moral people with standards.

    That, of course, is being destroyed.

  • @biozamadotcom Actually with recent scientific breakthroughs women can now homosexually reproduce, science is amazing right?

  • @MitchofSmeg Scientfic breakthroughs, sure, through which, women can also have Hybrid Chimeras with a goat or pig, but does not make it a good thing. Unnatural as well as immoral.

  • @biozamadotcom Unnatural, perhaps, but immoral? I think not.

  • @MitchofSmeg Completely, actually. Man and woman. Procreation. Heterosexual mammalian procreative behavior. Not a difficult concept to grasp.

  • @biozamadotcom By your definition you would be against IVF then?

    What about being against cars and planes? Very unnatural those, but i bet you use them, how about shoes, physically wearing shoes does massive damage to your back and legs, its unnatural, humans evolved to walk barefoot, against shoes then? I bet not. How about medicine? I bet you know where im going...

    Just because its "unnatural" doesnt mean its bad.

  • @MitchofSmeg your right, unnatural doesn't mean bad. still, you could have used some better examples, but i get your point.

  • In this country the worst we get is ex smokers going OTT if you smoke in their presence.

    Anti abortion people are there but they are very much marginalised or even better institutionalised.

  • Yeah! This world is ruled by a lot stupid!

  • If there was a family, nation, culture, society worth protecting, then her stance would make total sense, but yes, one must clean one's own house before reprimanding another. The pro life position is an idealistic one. I admire the one's who take it, but it's a shame that it's mainly an idea or a vision in their mind with no basis in practical reality in their own lives.

  • at least she regrets it. Have met total hotties who have had like 6 abortions. Not really my issue and it actually does no longer belong in the societal debate because we do not have a "nation" nor a "culture". Diversity and Multiculturalism leads to people having no people. Not part of a family nor a cohesive unit so there's no reason to worry about replacing population levels when they are not even your own population.

  • great vid plus your hair is awesome

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