I can't believe that someone who accepts evolution and was once so reasonable could say something like that.
Why is genocide and not reconcilliation your god's first resort? Why didn't he intervene and prevent the sin in the first place? If he really appeared to the Jews, why would they desert him for a lump of gold?
Then why is he so obsessed with violating the free will of humans, either directly, vicariously by commanding genocide, or by letting Hitler commit genocide and ignoring the free will of his victims?
Why should He have done that? They knowingly did wicked things for which they deserved destruction. God was under no obligation to talk to them about it and warn them. That's like a criminal objecting that policeman didn't warn him he was doing something before he arrested him. Get real:).
Give me a verse showing that the Canaanites knowingly knew that they were offending the perfect god of the universe. Then explain why your god would prefer bloodshed over reconcilliation.
No, it's like a person being arrested for violating a law that neither they nor anyone they knew, knew existed. Kind of like the small town speed traps where they give people tickets for breaking the speed limit but there are no speed signs posted or at least not where anyone can see them in time to slow down.
Since we've pwned you on everything, here's another thing. When you condemn God for killing people, you're assuming the very thing your trying to disprove. Since you're an atheist, you can't use examples from the bible to disprove itself, since you don't believe it in the first place. You can't not borrow theistic capitol.
So when the bible contradicts itself, it proves itself, according to you. Or is it that only Christians can use the bible to disprove the bible (which they wouldn't do if they were Christians anyway, I suppose)?
Your beliefs are predicated on circular reasoning - no different from saying "I'm right, and because I say I'm right, I am therefore right."
The reason God ordered the genocide of races is because many of those Nations were extremely wicked and had a long and violent history with Israel, as well as other nations, killing their young, raping their Women, and capturing the rest for slave trade. They also practiced disgusting rituals such as child sacrifice.
But when Israel was violent in the past, it was acceptable, correct? Because your god seems to enjoy using the hypocritical special pleading defense as though he was a heroin addict sating his habit.
Read Mein Kamph, not people like William Lane Craig or Dinesh D'Souza. Hitler believed he was doing the lord's work, and was never excommunicated while in power.
"Hitler believed he was doing the lord's work, and was never excommunicated while in power. "
Hitler's Lord was not Jesus Christ. If Hitler truly followed Jesus Christ - he would not have committed the acts he did. In fact, Hitler believed in Evolution and used that as an excuse to justify killing the jews. Hitler thought that the Aryan race was the master race so getting rid of others who did not conform was helping the world.
No. Hitler was a christian. He believed he was doing god's work.
"I may not be a light of the church, a pulpiteer, but deep down I am a pious man, and believe that whoever fights bravely in defense of the natural laws framed by God and never capitulates will never be deserted by the Lawgiver, but will, in the end, receive the blessings of Providence."
@zperra Christianity believes Jesus Christ is God, Islam believes Allah is God. If I ask a muslim if Jesus is Allah they will say no, if I ask a christian if Allah is Jesus they will say no. Sorry but the muslim God is not the God of MY Abraham. Just because you say so or they say so does not make it true.
Well, their conquest of Canaan under Joshua wasn't exactly a defensive war. The justification they had was that JHWH told them to. God told them this was their land, go take it and kill anyone who got in their way.
oh yea they did ^.^ spec ops has been shooting up civilian houses and neighborhoods outside Israel without allowance from the US. And they also do deep strike bombings in civilian areas.
But israel hold the fanaticism in the middle east at bay... but you could discuss if they just replace it with their own fanatiscm =(
anyway, they are all rotten apples in the middle east
even the children? Small toddlers being sliced apart by the swords of a barbaric army of israelites? Babies dashed against rocks, is that a good thing? According to the psalms i is. Why didnt God simply have some of the canaanites killed instead of every living thing that breathed? Even animals? Now that just doesnt make sense. If a tribe is wicked doesnt mean that every single one of them has to die
I will agree with you, the fact that I, an atheist, had to walk a christian down the Roman road, per say, is just silly.
vssia 1 year ago
CATHOLICISM FTW!!!
Julbomber 1 year ago
gay
edgasm90 2 years ago
haha, epic.
ilovetosmilexo 2 years ago
homo
DJESKAII 2 years ago
GOD IS DEAD
tehWard0g 2 years ago
Nietzche is dead.
NZbeauty86 2 years ago
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sclereids 2 years ago
i have my reasons, but these videos you do will not win anyone over..... you seem to be seeking man's approval, not God's
TheTabbs 2 years ago
The most rational position of all? You are either on drugs or joking.
PunkCheerleaderBetch 2 years ago 2
lol s all I can say
iartim 2 years ago
Men never commit evil as joyfully and willingly as when they do it for religious convictions.
"I became a christian because of the overwhelming physical evidence"
lawl...
kpotassium 2 years ago
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WHY ARE YOU A FAGGOT
thedizzit 2 years ago
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William Lane Craig tries to be an apologist for genocide on his "Reasonsable Faith" website.
A link and quote is included on FSTDT (dot) net.
Perrine234 2 years ago
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Are we referring to the Amalekites?
KabaneTheChristian 2 years ago
No, but he defended the genocide of the Canaanites.
Perrine234 2 years ago 5
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Good. The Canaanites were vile people who needed to be destroyed.
KabaneTheChristian 2 years ago
I can't believe that someone who accepts evolution and was once so reasonable could say something like that.
Why is genocide and not reconcilliation your god's first resort? Why didn't he intervene and prevent the sin in the first place? If he really appeared to the Jews, why would they desert him for a lump of gold?
Perrine234 2 years ago 4
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Pop quiz. What kind of behavior did the Canaanites engage in?
Because they lust after their own desires, duh.
KabaneTheChristian 2 years ago
Your god would've been just as responsible. With ultimate power comes ultimate responsibility.
Keep on justifying genocide. You'll join the ranks of Philos71 and end up deconverting more than you convert.
Perrine234 2 years ago 5
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Perrine seems to have skipped the pop quiz! I give him an F! A Sovereign God also has the power to grant free will.
KabaneTheChristian 2 years ago
Then why is he so obsessed with violating the free will of humans, either directly, vicariously by commanding genocide, or by letting Hitler commit genocide and ignoring the free will of his victims?
Perrine234 2 years ago 6
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Another F for you!
How is commanding justice somehow a "violation of free will"?
And if you didn't notice, Hitler got his ass kicked.
KabaneTheChristian 2 years ago
1. It's easy to be just if you get to define justice and morality. Why didn't your god give the Canaanites a chance to repent?
2. But not before violating the free will of over six million Jews.
3. Please stop the arrogant condescension.
Perrine234 2 years ago
But he did give them a chance to repent. He waited several generations before He wiped them out: God said to Abraham:
"In the fourth generation your descendants will come back here, for the sin of the Amorites has not yet reached its full measure" (Genesis 15:16).
Who says that God gives eveyone unlimited free will which He is not allowed to violate?
ukchristian28 2 years ago
Did he ever tell that to hte Canaanites? Or the Amorites?
Perrine234 2 years ago
Why should He have done that? They knowingly did wicked things for which they deserved destruction. God was under no obligation to talk to them about it and warn them. That's like a criminal objecting that policeman didn't warn him he was doing something before he arrested him. Get real:).
ukchristian28 2 years ago
Give me a verse showing that the Canaanites knowingly knew that they were offending the perfect god of the universe. Then explain why your god would prefer bloodshed over reconcilliation.
Perrine234 2 years ago
No, it's like a person being arrested for violating a law that neither they nor anyone they knew, knew existed. Kind of like the small town speed traps where they give people tickets for breaking the speed limit but there are no speed signs posted or at least not where anyone can see them in time to slow down.
DancingRabbit52 2 years ago
Since we've pwned you on everything, here's another thing. When you condemn God for killing people, you're assuming the very thing your trying to disprove. Since you're an atheist, you can't use examples from the bible to disprove itself, since you don't believe it in the first place. You can't not borrow theistic capitol.
aaronk1994 2 years ago
So when the bible contradicts itself, it proves itself, according to you. Or is it that only Christians can use the bible to disprove the bible (which they wouldn't do if they were Christians anyway, I suppose)?
Your beliefs are predicated on circular reasoning - no different from saying "I'm right, and because I say I'm right, I am therefore right."
Perrine234 2 years ago
The reason God ordered the genocide of races is because many of those Nations were extremely wicked and had a long and violent history with Israel, as well as other nations, killing their young, raping their Women, and capturing the rest for slave trade. They also practiced disgusting rituals such as child sacrifice.
aaronk1994 2 years ago
But when Israel was violent in the past, it was acceptable, correct? Because your god seems to enjoy using the hypocritical special pleading defense as though he was a heroin addict sating his habit.
Perrine234 2 years ago
They were no where near as bad as the other nations. Besides, Israel never attacked without justifications.
aaronk1994 2 years ago
By that "logic," Hitler was also justified because he believed that he had god on his side.
Perrine234 2 years ago
False. Hitler was an atheist. I just uploaded a video on it.
aaronk1994 2 years ago
Read Mein Kamph, not people like William Lane Craig or Dinesh D'Souza. Hitler believed he was doing the lord's work, and was never excommunicated while in power.
Perrine234 2 years ago 2
Wrong, those quotations are answered in my video. Just go watch it.
aaronk1994 2 years ago
"Hitler believed he was doing the lord's work, and was never excommunicated while in power. "
Hitler's Lord was not Jesus Christ. If Hitler truly followed Jesus Christ - he would not have committed the acts he did. In fact, Hitler believed in Evolution and used that as an excuse to justify killing the jews. Hitler thought that the Aryan race was the master race so getting rid of others who did not conform was helping the world.
twospot7777777 2 years ago
Hitler was a devout Christian...
Remember the buckle "Godd mit Uns - God be with with us"
KaptajnKaffe 2 years ago
No. Hitler was a christian. He believed he was doing god's work.
"I may not be a light of the church, a pulpiteer, but deep down I am a pious man, and believe that whoever fights bravely in defense of the natural laws framed by God and never capitulates will never be deserted by the Lawgiver, but will, in the end, receive the blessings of Providence."
speech, July 5, 1944
zperra 2 years ago 3
Watch my video.
aaronk1994 2 years ago
@zperra If someone says they believe they are doing "god's work" they are christians? So all muslims are christian by your definition?
LifeLibertyLove 1 year ago
@LifeLibertyLove: Actually Islam and Christianity are branch offs of the same religion. They're both the god of Abraham.
zperra 1 year ago
@zperra Christianity believes Jesus Christ is God, Islam believes Allah is God. If I ask a muslim if Jesus is Allah they will say no, if I ask a christian if Allah is Jesus they will say no. Sorry but the muslim God is not the God of MY Abraham. Just because you say so or they say so does not make it true.
LifeLibertyLove 1 year ago
Well, their conquest of Canaan under Joshua wasn't exactly a defensive war. The justification they had was that JHWH told them to. God told them this was their land, go take it and kill anyone who got in their way.
DancingRabbit52 2 years ago
oh yea they did ^.^ spec ops has been shooting up civilian houses and neighborhoods outside Israel without allowance from the US. And they also do deep strike bombings in civilian areas.
But israel hold the fanaticism in the middle east at bay... but you could discuss if they just replace it with their own fanatiscm =(
anyway, they are all rotten apples in the middle east
KaptajnKaffe 2 years ago
even the children? Small toddlers being sliced apart by the swords of a barbaric army of israelites? Babies dashed against rocks, is that a good thing? According to the psalms i is. Why didnt God simply have some of the canaanites killed instead of every living thing that breathed? Even animals? Now that just doesnt make sense. If a tribe is wicked doesnt mean that every single one of them has to die
Knowntje 2 years ago
@Knowntje
I like how you banned me like a coward
again~! Hahahahaha! Yeah, you're
really an Intellectual heavyweight Knowntje.
Dhorpatan 2 years ago
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This is good stuff :)
Epydemic2020 2 years ago
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Romans 10:17 So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
We are commanded to give every man a reason for the hope that is in us, just remember that the word of God is the that faith comes by.
Luke22verse20 2 years ago
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Well said!
putergk 2 years ago
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Good wake-up call.
Skantaq 2 years ago
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I agree with you aaron
rkolegendkiller31 2 years ago