how does this fkn fag get so many views, his video is linked to so many others...
fkn weird
BIG FKN DEAL! take 2 measures of 16th notes and group them in 5, and for each "1" of each 5 note grouping alternate a bass drum note, then a snare drum
that IS ALL he is doing
2 4/4 measures of 16ths = 32 16th notes
32 div 5 = bd sd x3 then 2 16ths
will sound like 1.5 measures at a dif tempo (3 bds and 3 sds alternating) + 2 additional 16ths
THEN right back to beat "1" and back to "regular" 4/4
whatever grouping you're playing, accenting on 3,4,5 etc you should know where the one is. For example this kind of grouping (accenting each 5 sixteinth note) has an accent on one each five meters. If dont want to get fired explain that to your co-players and advice them to pay attention to your hi-hat...Groupings are such a smart idea :)
I really like this video, most drummers are caught up in having speed and how to shed (its not bad) but most drummers dont know that gettin marketing isnt just about speed or fills but mainly groove and understanding time. Thanks for the video, I needed a better explanation than the one a drummer i know gave me, you obviously know what your saying.
thats so clever, I actually use to do kinda same stuff playing 4x4 but keeping the (hihat and kick beats) and changing only snares beats...it sounds awesome playing funk for example!!!
and really (Peeps complaint all the time cuz of it)! hehehe
@iwannaberock I know what you mean! This was my first drum video I did over 2 years ago. My new videos I feel are way better with less talking and more drumming. All we can do as musicians is grow and improve every single day so hopefully I am doing that. To be honest, I never thought this video would get more than 1000 views, otherwise I probably would have done a better job! Thanks for watching though. For real.
Well if you're trying to throw your singer off/get fired, why not just open up your sixteenth notes a bit and make it a fivelet fill. Even more odd metered!
I use this same type of idea in some of my fills (throwing accents on every fifth note in a 16th note fill etc) but never thought to drop something like this. Cool idea
Hey Nic, nice video but I think you left out an important part
If you do this as a fill, you should start back at the 1, to avoid sounding kind of wrong.
So, if you have HH + BD on 1, then you have HH + SD on 2e, then HH + BD on 3and and finally you have the HH + SD on the 4a (if I got what you're saying)
You should really try to hit that 1 that comes right after the 4a! And start the normal rythm again. It sounds way cool if you do that, give it a try!
it seems u missed that 1 @ the end where u repeated the pattern more than a bar. I followed u to make sure and the rhythm didn't add up. However, the concept is the most important part! More drummers need to experiment with that stuff if they don't want their drumming to get boring & monotonous. Did you make a video w/ a paradiddle version of this concept? If not, it would be great! I'd post one but I sold my drumset.
@justDRUMin42 Try the camera is crooked. Look at this normally. Look at the hi hat stand. No hi hat stand can be angled like that as far as I know.... This tells me the camera is a little off. And who gives a shit? His grip is fine, he gets the job done.
@ The HATERS: Maaaaan, fuck ALL yall!!! My man here was trying nto share some shit that he was familiar with with the rest of you dumb fucks! @ My man on drums: Right on brother, thank you for that!
Nice job Nic, I'm trying to visualize this in a tune familiar to me outside of Jazz and I cannot think of one. Maybe you can. I would love to see it applied in a song where I could see/hear it being used. It sounds pretty cool. Oh yea put the mike closer to you, your talking is about the same level as the background noise. You came through real well when you said thanks at the end. :-) Cheers and Happy New Year!
@badmoonryzn Thanks for the comments! Yeah check out this Vinnie Colaiuta video - - /watch?v=4hOm7rkvChQ - - at around 2:20 for something similar to this type of lick. He uses it as more of a solo thing which is what I use it for too. I'm pretty sure I've heard Thomas Haake from Meshuggah do something similar before as well. Cheers.
cool video. i like to do the same with triplets sorda. instead of Rlr Lrl Rlr Lrl I will play Rlr lRl rlR lrl. basically 3 sets of 4 beats. Rlrl Rlrl Rlrl
in 4/4 time this will def. piss somebody off as it seems like the drummer has slowed down.
@NicThornsberryDrums Stick to drumming. Because headwear and snappy comebacks are definitely not your forte. The puppet hat fits that situation perfectly though. Good luck.
@NicThornsberryDrums I'm sorry, but I do agree with the flat brimmed hat comment. They are kinda douche bag-ish :p But, that's just a hat. nice drumming. You have skills
LOL This reminds me of ME when I was your age. I went through all the Gavin Harrison stuff 15 years ago (three and four dimensional rhythms) and now after all these years, use little pieces and patches of such nuttiness in my playing.
Just know this- if you're on a "working band" situation and start pulling that stuff out every 2 bars, it's gonna suck. Use it once a night, trust me. I mean, if you wish to stay in that working band!
@woweasyguides It will only get you fired if you do this with katy perry or your top 40 cover band.....try it with a prog/fusion band and you might get a raise!
cant believe how many dislikes this video has, they are blatantly all from dumb retards who don't know anything about anything, but for some reason still think they know more about drumming/music than a talented drummer. this is some proper tech Frank Zappa shit... and thats the best kinda shit
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its not a "slowed down beat" lol. Its a drumming idea like a drum fill, you play a drum beat most of the time when you play the drums, thats what drummers do MOST of the time (play a drum beat) - THEN - every 8 measures or so you do a drum fill
THIS IDEA / VIDEO he is showing an alternate way of varying from the repetitive drum beat - it is an idea that can be used in lieu of a drum fill
So INSTEAD of doing a typical drum fill - you COULD do this variation he has shown
@lrrlrllr Thanks for your explanation of how this might work. I admit it has piqued my interest. I will have to actually try this lick out to see how it would work....or as in the title of this piece....get myself "fired" from my band. ;)
To sum up my previous comment... You're going for implied metric modulation, cool.... But make surre when you are doing this... The original quarter note pulse isn't lost... When you come back in you are off time... Play these to a click and you will understand what I mean....
I think youre wrong. Play 16ths with your hands WHILE hes playing these two grooves - the entire time. He is correct in his playing... his playing IS metronomically correct
He isnt slowing down - you can also watch him keeping the 1/4 note pulse in his left leg while he "modulates" the tempo.
If your playing with a vocalist that can't count or feel a groove you might have trouble. And what the fuck! Fuckin rock drumming is goddamn basic it pisses me off! Metal finally caught on to the 'edgy & experimental' sound a while ago but rock in general just refuses to evolve! Frank Zappa released "Hot Rats" in '69! 1960-fuckin-9! We've had 40 fuckin years to learn and grow from that shit and launch rock in a great direction but instead we get fuckin shit like Blink 182, The Killers, Ufuckin2!
@gaelicwop 30 Seconds to Mars, Alkaline Trio, American Head Charge, Death By Stereo, Dream Theater, Giraffes? Giraffes!, Incubus, Machine Head, The Mars Volta, Mastodon, Pantera, Pennywise (But only live), Primus, QotSA, Shattersphere, Skindred, Sublime, Suicidal Tendencies, TOOL, Trivium, I mean c'mon man I'm running out of characters for this...
Metric modulation is super fun to play with. Gavin Harrison (of Porcupine Tree) is the drummer that I first heard it from. He did it in a song called "Prodigal," towards the very end of the song if anyone is interested. My example of modulation is this: say for example you're playing at 150 bpm, with quarter notes as every hit on a cymbal. If you change those quarters to dotted eighths for every hit, it makes it sound like you sped up. Super fun to play!Just a tip on the topic. BTW, cool video
Metric modulation is super fun to play with. Gavin Harrison (of Porcupine Tree) is the drummer that I first heard it from. He did it in a song called "Prodigal," towards the very end of the song if anyone is interested. My example of modulation is this: say for example you're playing at 150 bpm, with quarter notes as every hit on a cymbal. If you change those quarters to dotted eighths for every hit, it makes it sound like you sped up. Super fun to play!Just a tip on the topic. BTW, cool video.
Metric modulation is super fun to play with. Gavin Harrison (of Porcupine Tree) is the drummer that I first heard it from. He did it in a song called "Prodigal," towards the very end of the song if anyone is interested. My example of modulation is this: say for example you're playing at 150 bpm, with quarter notes as every hit on a cymbal. If you change those quarters to dotted eighths for every hit, it makes it sound like you sped up. Super fun to play!Just a tip on the topic. BTW, cool video.
How long have you been playing a full set ("trap set" for us old folks)? and are you still marching. the suggestion of lowering your throne will feel so foreign at first 2-3 days and then you will start to find more power, speed and new pasterns, grooves, and fills. Keep it up
don't listen to that douche - I've been playing drums for 28 years and I've always sat high - its all a matter of preference, there is no set formula - makes rimshots easier too.
@tigermilk808 28 years? I bet if you adjusted your set properly you'd be better than you are now regardless of how good you are. There is nothing wrong with the advice and someone offering wisdom. and yes I've been playing since 1969 I still have my touring set from '82, 8 ply maple shells, a beast. I also play a set of Hart Pro 6.2. By the way it took me almost a month to find the proper position for the Hart set and completely different than my Pearl set
@brickceo I sit about as high as my childhood hero Bernard Purdie - always have always will. It's PURELY a matter of preference...when the advice isn't sound yeah I take issue with it.
@tigermilk808 Dude (let's keep it PC) Person, the advise is very sound and it's much easier to make this correction now than after he's been playing for 5 frustrating years and sounding like Mick Fleetwood. Even after 28 years you would see more speed, control, better patterns, stick control, hand and foot speed. and yes I have been playing since 1968. I still have my monster 8 ply maple Pearl set from 1984 I also play a Hart Dynamic Pro 6.4 with setup and seating different on each
Way to go man!!! You're my kind of guy, but some people just don't want good advise.
I was sitting wrong for years and have improved all kinds of things ( not just seating height) thanks to Dave Weckl's very first video "back to basiscs"!!!
Oh yes, there is a formula for everything, but you don't have to believe me.
Just watch "back to basiscs" from Dave Weckl and you'll be convinced right away, just as much as I was years ago. It took me a big step forward for cleaner playing, faster, smoother and without any muscle pains, all this with a much better sound.
I really dont see how anyone can saying ANYTHING negative about this video. Its cool!
He is doing a great job!
Telling him about his seat height???
OBVIOUSLY his seat height IS NOT affecting his playing. How many drummer do YOU know that can play 3 consecutive 16th notes in a row at this tempo (cleanly) with ONE bass drum? Not many! CLEARLY the height he sits at is no limiting factor, it works well for him. Sounds good to me!
Seat height, technique, ETC - all that DOES NOT MATTER IF you can play your ideas WITHOUT discomfort or pain.
I said he looks relaxed to me and sounds good - AND OBVIUOSLY to be able to play 3 consecutive 16th notes on the bass drum like he did SHOWS / is proof that his seat height IS NOT an issue.
Again, technique IS ONLY A MEANS TO AN END
I bet youre one of those drummers who talks up a storm but cant REALLY play
I don't have to show nothing to anyone.Dave would be the best drummer dream theater ever had, but he just wants to be busy with other kinds of music, that's all!!!
Yes, some cool ideas, but I think you would feel a lot better behind your kit lowering your seat, you are sitting way too high, your legs should have a slight gowing down way.
Watch the very first dave weckl video or dvd " first step" and you'll see right away what I mean.
@rudethedude1959 I've tried that but I'm only like 5'6..... when I sit low to where my thighs are parallel with the ground it's harder to play the toms, especially when I play two toms up. I'd rather sit higher than have my shoulders tense up from having to reach to hit my toms haha. Thanks for watching man!
f u dude, he sounds good to me - who gives a FK about seat height - technique IS ONLY A MEANS TO AN END
I bet your one of those dork ass drummers who cant REALLY play well, but talks up a storm
His playing on this video is sweet, and he deserves props for it... lets see YOUR video! Probably dont have any!
If someones technique WORKS for them, no need to change it. He looked relaxed to me, no tension or anything else that might cause physical injury. Cool video!
Hi there. Look, I didn't want to attack anyone here, just wanted to give a good advise which I had from weckl's video years ago. It improved my way of playing with lot of improvement on hi-hat and bassdrum, especially while fast playing. Eveything sounded better, cleaner end smoother and I'm also short, 1,65m, that is about 5'5 I think.
I don't see any connection with tom heights to this matter
cool rhythm, i originally saw marko marko djordjevic doing this in another video... i adapted that 5 groups of 4 idea and made it into a samba clave, something else thats cool to explore!!
a good way to get used to quintuplets is by accenting the 1st, 3rd and 5th beats, the accent changing hands on each cycle[cos its an odd number]. this way you can count them easier. note: the hard bit is changing from the fifth beat back around to the first, but if you start slow you will get it in no time :D. then when you remove the accents, you can understand the groove abit better! hope this is helpful.
i like you dude, cool lesson but i do agree bit too much talk
ThMaggotUtube 3 days ago
or they could be 5 lets
Bfongbfong 6 days ago
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@Bfongbfong
or you are unable to "feel" (and / or) "count" 16th notes
he said he was playing 16ths and grouping them in 5 notes:
BD e + a 2 SD + a 3 e BD a 4 e + SD (bar line) 1 e + a BD e + a 2 SD + a 3 e BD a 4 e + "a" 1
sounds and feels like 16th notes
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how does this fkn fag get so many views, his video is linked to so many others...
fkn weird
BIG FKN DEAL! take 2 measures of 16th notes and group them in 5, and for each "1" of each 5 note grouping alternate a bass drum note, then a snare drum
that IS ALL he is doing
2 4/4 measures of 16ths = 32 16th notes
32 div 5 = bd sd x3 then 2 16ths
will sound like 1.5 measures at a dif tempo (3 bds and 3 sds alternating) + 2 additional 16ths
THEN right back to beat "1" and back to "regular" 4/4
soicanspeak 6 days ago
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soicanspeak 6 days ago
whatever grouping you're playing, accenting on 3,4,5 etc you should know where the one is. For example this kind of grouping (accenting each 5 sixteinth note) has an accent on one each five meters. If dont want to get fired explain that to your co-players and advice them to pay attention to your hi-hat...Groupings are such a smart idea :)
billo008 1 week ago
@billo008
when counting each measure: 1 e + a 2 e + a 3 e + a 4 e + a (repeat measure after measure)
you accent - alternating bass drum THEN snare drum - BD e + a 2 SD + a 3 e BD a 4 e + a (back to ) 1 of the next measure... ETC
hes using 2 measure length to "execute" his (BASIC) idea:
BD e + a 2 SD + a 3 e BD a 4 e + SD (bar line) 1 e + a BD e + a 2 SD + a 3 e BD a 4 e + "a" 1
Those last two notes "a" 1 he plays CRASH CRASH ("a" "1")
Then back to bass drum beat 1 and sd beat 2 etc
soicanspeak 6 days ago
periphery have a song called icarus lives that does this same thing he is talking about near the end of the song its have a really cool feel to it
Braveheartequinox 1 week ago
I really like this video, most drummers are caught up in having speed and how to shed (its not bad) but most drummers dont know that gettin marketing isnt just about speed or fills but mainly groove and understanding time. Thanks for the video, I needed a better explanation than the one a drummer i know gave me, you obviously know what your saying.
Freedome23 1 week ago
probably in eighth notes... i cant remember! my sister can play better than that
.... and shes got no hands
bobf1sh 1 week ago
what is metric modulation??
mrjoshfryer 1 week ago
thanks dude, i have become very familiar with groups of 5 16ths... thanks so much
beanriffs 1 week ago
facepalm
McDevy 2 weeks ago 2
My vocalist can't even keep to regular beat.
ongxizhe 2 weeks ago
I was right about to say metric modulation, then I heard those lovely words. Cool stuff mayne!
McQuads87 2 weeks ago
Painful
squishymedic 2 weeks ago
its called gridding, its already been invented..
luxypenguin 2 weeks ago
haters need to grow some balls and post their own instructional vid before making negative comments
lilmawl 2 weeks ago
@lilmawl people need to learn their shit before making an instrucitional video.
luxypenguin 2 weeks ago
in response to some comments...it's not 5lets, sexts, quints, etc. 16th notes in 4/4 with the accent moving 1 16th over. Good lick!
lilmawl 2 weeks ago
hey yo...
thats so clever, I actually use to do kinda same stuff playing 4x4 but keeping the (hihat and kick beats) and changing only snares beats...it sounds awesome playing funk for example!!!
and really (Peeps complaint all the time cuz of it)! hehehe
take care dude!
mrlhdrummer 2 weeks ago
Cool hat, BRO!
love2punk 3 weeks ago
good shit I'm gonna try this!
Devlindrums 3 weeks ago
Dude they are called quintuplets!
davo9678 3 weeks ago
am i on lsd again
321haircut901 3 weeks ago
so much talking for so few music... not to say that it sounds bad.. just to say that live is to short for so much speaking in front of the drums..
iwannaberock 1 month ago 5
@iwannaberock I know what you mean! This was my first drum video I did over 2 years ago. My new videos I feel are way better with less talking and more drumming. All we can do as musicians is grow and improve every single day so hopefully I am doing that. To be honest, I never thought this video would get more than 1000 views, otherwise I probably would have done a better job! Thanks for watching though. For real.
NicThornsberryDrums 6 days ago 2
this is done in icarus lives by periphery and it sounds awsome
DillonMcCarthy23 1 month ago
Why don't you just call them 5lets?
gotdrumz27 1 month ago
your fulcrom makes me cringe
BlueDevilSnareDrum 1 month ago
@BlueDevilSnareDrum if so... why can't you spell the word "f-u-l-c-r-u-m"?
DrumTchr 2 weeks ago
@DrumTchr his folcrum makes me cringe regardless of my pp spelling poopy
BlueDevilSnareDrum 1 week ago
@BlueDevilSnareDrum What makes me cringe is when he comes out of it... his 2 and 4 back beat become 1 and 3.
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@DrumTchr BD e + a 2 SD + a 3 e BD a 4 e + SD (bar line) 1 e + a BD e + a 2 SD + a 3 e BD a 4 e + "a" 1
Those last two notes "a" 1 he plays CRASH CRASH ("a" "1")
Then back to bass drum beat 1 and sd beat 2 etc
soicanspeak 6 days ago
Instead of doing this do the Virgil Donati thing:
Left foot and Left hand play double paradiddle.
Right foot and Right hand play single paradiddle against what your left side is playing.
3 and 2 feels at the same time. Now you'll be fired for sure.
mr4y 1 month ago
: What happens if I play this lick?
: Then you'll be fired...
: Fine
: ...out of a cannon, into the sun.
333mdb 1 month ago
Well if you're trying to throw your singer off/get fired, why not just open up your sixteenth notes a bit and make it a fivelet fill. Even more odd metered!
percussionsensei1 1 month ago
I use this same type of idea in some of my fills (throwing accents on every fifth note in a 16th note fill etc) but never thought to drop something like this. Cool idea
22cwheels22 1 month ago
Hey Nic, nice video but I think you left out an important part
If you do this as a fill, you should start back at the 1, to avoid sounding kind of wrong.
So, if you have HH + BD on 1, then you have HH + SD on 2e, then HH + BD on 3and and finally you have the HH + SD on the 4a (if I got what you're saying)
You should really try to hit that 1 that comes right after the 4a! And start the normal rythm again. It sounds way cool if you do that, give it a try!
SylarTheBest 1 month ago
you lost the one. that's what got you fired.
TheEricSweetscent 1 month ago
There's only ONE lick that will get you fired... and it doesn't involve a drumset...
WirlWind494 1 month ago
2:10 he plays walk this way by aerosmith
Aaron36913 1 month ago
it seems u missed that 1 @ the end where u repeated the pattern more than a bar. I followed u to make sure and the rhythm didn't add up. However, the concept is the most important part! More drummers need to experiment with that stuff if they don't want their drumming to get boring & monotonous. Did you make a video w/ a paradiddle version of this concept? If not, it would be great! I'd post one but I sold my drumset.
Purpose4Praise 1 month ago
Smashing.
LibertyCityMayhem95 1 month ago
you missed it, this lick should be just a bit longer to end on the one!!!
fabiozamagni 1 month ago
1 e and a 2 e and a 3 e and a I cant count that HIGH!!!!
skinchen 1 month ago
More romney ads ugh..
Sc0ttPrian 1 month ago
we all know musicians don't get jobs to begin with
DJReidiculousVideos 1 month ago
If your vocalist can't do something with that, get a new one.
midnightskate 1 month ago
coooooooool
js17773 1 month ago
Good idea! I like this!
MaartenVHelden 1 month ago
Good idea! I like this!
MaartenVHelden 1 month ago
his hi hat is crooked. haha and why is he so choked up on the stick? odd grip
justDRUMin42 1 month ago
@justDRUMin42 Try the camera is crooked. Look at this normally. Look at the hi hat stand. No hi hat stand can be angled like that as far as I know.... This tells me the camera is a little off. And who gives a shit? His grip is fine, he gets the job done.
OneTakeJesus 1 month ago
sooooo. it's polyrhythmic drumming.
tonyalanhammons 1 month ago
dude....I just shat bricks to this....
christiansizer 1 month ago
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christiansizer 1 month ago
Who would fire Jamie Kennedy?
cosmodrum1 1 month ago
I like it!!!
Chrls5 1 month ago
@Chrls5 me too lmao
InfliktionDrums 1 month ago
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TheFlyingBagels 2 months ago
It was pretty good but i am not on fire
roryando 2 months ago
@ The HATERS: Maaaaan, fuck ALL yall!!! My man here was trying nto share some shit that he was familiar with with the rest of you dumb fucks! @ My man on drums: Right on brother, thank you for that!
DRUMTOY2000 2 months ago
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soicanspeak 2 months ago
Fuck yeah master! Some jedi tricks,uh?
Nice video, I'll be see few more.
t1r0f1j0 2 months ago
Nice job Nic, I'm trying to visualize this in a tune familiar to me outside of Jazz and I cannot think of one. Maybe you can. I would love to see it applied in a song where I could see/hear it being used. It sounds pretty cool. Oh yea put the mike closer to you, your talking is about the same level as the background noise. You came through real well when you said thanks at the end. :-) Cheers and Happy New Year!
badmoonryzn 2 months ago
@badmoonryzn Thanks for the comments! Yeah check out this Vinnie Colaiuta video - - /watch?v=4hOm7rkvChQ - - at around 2:20 for something similar to this type of lick. He uses it as more of a solo thing which is what I use it for too. I'm pretty sure I've heard Thomas Haake from Meshuggah do something similar before as well. Cheers.
NicThornsberryDrums 2 months ago
@badmoonryzn Gorillaz use these types of funk/ "jungle" beats!
Trapkeyband 1 week ago
cool video. i like to do the same with triplets sorda. instead of Rlr Lrl Rlr Lrl I will play Rlr lRl rlR lrl. basically 3 sets of 4 beats. Rlrl Rlrl Rlrl
in 4/4 time this will def. piss somebody off as it seems like the drummer has slowed down.
GinSabre 2 months ago
don't understand what everyones getting worked up about? the guy isn't doing it correctly, but at least he posted something on youtube!
@nic you'll be a good teacher someday keep it up
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soicanspeak 2 months ago
@soicanspeak ahh ok, i'll take some for sure! thanks for the explanation.
wearecorsairs 2 months ago
What will get you never hired is wearing that ridiculous looking flat brimmed hat to an audition.
djdepaolo 2 months ago 19
@djdepaolo Ask your mom. She hired me for my rhythm.
NicThornsberryDrums 2 months ago 81
@NicThornsberryDrums Stick to drumming. Because headwear and snappy comebacks are definitely not your forte. The puppet hat fits that situation perfectly though. Good luck.
djdepaolo 2 months ago
@NicThornsberryDrums What rhythm?
djkgfg 2 months ago
@NicThornsberryDrums I'm joking, I realized that the lack of a tongue face or a "haha" might make it sound like I'm being a dick. Hahaha.
djkgfg 2 months ago
@NicThornsberryDrums I'm sorry, but I do agree with the flat brimmed hat comment. They are kinda douche bag-ish :p But, that's just a hat. nice drumming. You have skills
Numlocq 2 months ago
@NicThornsberryDrums hahahahahahahahahaha yes!!!! I want to do you...
CaitlinAnnLester 1 month ago
@NicThornsberryDrums OH DAYUUMN!!!
bigfatbobby 1 week ago
@djdepaolo Whata fucking retarded thing to say. This is a drum video, not a fucking fashion show.
knowbuddydrums 1 month ago
@knowbuddydrums, homeslice, get over it.
djdepaolo 1 month ago
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SabianAHX 1 month ago
@djdepaolo hahahahahahahah! YES BEST CALL! FUCKING GAY HAT, I HATE COCKHEADS THAT WEAR THEM!
billycorganisgod 1 month ago
@djdepaolo Wow what are you 40? get off the internet.
IamAtree000001 2 weeks ago
your messing up going back into the normal groove, your coming in not on one......
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DEREKSCHWAPPACHDRUMS 2 months ago
this guy is an idiot
4ustrider 2 months ago
i listen to yes. no time signature can possibly confuse me
DidYourMomOSaurus 2 months ago
LOL This reminds me of ME when I was your age. I went through all the Gavin Harrison stuff 15 years ago (three and four dimensional rhythms) and now after all these years, use little pieces and patches of such nuttiness in my playing.
Just know this- if you're on a "working band" situation and start pulling that stuff out every 2 bars, it's gonna suck. Use it once a night, trust me. I mean, if you wish to stay in that working band!
BillRayDrums 2 months ago
This is a very good way to teach the learning player.
Thank you for puttin this up!
88greenblunt 2 months ago
Why are your hands so far up on the sticks?
http18476 2 months ago
How will this get you fired?
woweasyguides 2 months ago
@woweasyguides It will only get you fired if you do this with katy perry or your top 40 cover band.....try it with a prog/fusion band and you might get a raise!
NicThornsberryDrums 2 months ago 23
Stuff like this is pretty common in Jazz
r0b0hobo 2 months ago
thats head busting how did you learn it never mind explain it A+ for ability
jonnyjap 2 months ago
cant believe how many dislikes this video has, they are blatantly all from dumb retards who don't know anything about anything, but for some reason still think they know more about drumming/music than a talented drummer. this is some proper tech Frank Zappa shit... and thats the best kinda shit
haydnrobinson 2 months ago
it's good man- big! and your timing is great. from reading some comments I think it's just going over peoples heads.
misterriddlez 2 months ago
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An actual STARGATE/PORTAL-THING was caught on film in New Mexico. The footage can be found within the short-film entitled "SUDDEN PORTHOLE", which is parked at the PROJECT CAMELOT YouTube page (it's under the George Noory video).
I'm not selling anything…I'm just trying to spread the word about the unseen-dimensions we find ourselves embedded in.
My BLOG @ samzurick*dot*com contains peripheral data regarding the movie and is where I reply to the "debunkers". THANKS!!
peopledick 2 months ago
Is it me or are your sticks fuckin massive?
Ginjaardrummer 2 months ago
@Ginjaardrummer He has tiny hands.
MattersofDespair 2 months ago
essjkid05 = trever barber fan
lrrlrllr 2 months ago
So, this fill might work on songs designed around the slowed down beat. But, for the other 99% of songs this has no merit.
GahDub 2 months ago
@GahDub
its not a "slowed down beat" lol. Its a drumming idea like a drum fill, you play a drum beat most of the time when you play the drums, thats what drummers do MOST of the time (play a drum beat) - THEN - every 8 measures or so you do a drum fill
THIS IDEA / VIDEO he is showing an alternate way of varying from the repetitive drum beat - it is an idea that can be used in lieu of a drum fill
So INSTEAD of doing a typical drum fill - you COULD do this variation he has shown
lrrlrllr 2 months ago
@lrrlrllr Thanks for your explanation of how this might work. I admit it has piqued my interest. I will have to actually try this lick out to see how it would work....or as in the title of this piece....get myself "fired" from my band. ;)
GahDub 2 months ago
im gonna use this fill soooooo much :)
dag0151 2 months ago
this shit is fucking stupid...
essjkid05 2 months ago
To sum up my previous comment... You're going for implied metric modulation, cool.... But make surre when you are doing this... The original quarter note pulse isn't lost... When you come back in you are off time... Play these to a click and you will understand what I mean....
zking1774 2 months ago
@zking1774
I think youre wrong. Play 16ths with your hands WHILE hes playing these two grooves - the entire time. He is correct in his playing... his playing IS metronomically correct
He isnt slowing down - you can also watch him keeping the 1/4 note pulse in his left leg while he "modulates" the tempo.
Hes pretty much right on
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soicanspeak 2 months ago
I used to play with a drummer that did that kind of thing (but not as sophisticated) at inappropriate times. He shoulda been fired I suppose..
tungmori 2 months ago
cool
elliotttiki 2 months ago
Yeah that will get you fired.
imXaXteapot2112 2 months ago
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Nice example of metric modulation. You skipped a beat at 4:55, going back to the regular 4/4 groove though.... good stuff anyway.
Pettenderk 2 months ago
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Bandevent 2 months ago
Your very solid man check out my drum vids see what you think and give me some pointers!!
cwozildjian 2 months ago
Cool idea, thanks
cfrasher 2 months ago
If your playing with a vocalist that can't count or feel a groove you might have trouble. And what the fuck! Fuckin rock drumming is goddamn basic it pisses me off! Metal finally caught on to the 'edgy & experimental' sound a while ago but rock in general just refuses to evolve! Frank Zappa released "Hot Rats" in '69! 1960-fuckin-9! We've had 40 fuckin years to learn and grow from that shit and launch rock in a great direction but instead we get fuckin shit like Blink 182, The Killers, Ufuckin2!
gaelicwop 2 months ago
@gaelicwop 30 Seconds to Mars, Alkaline Trio, American Head Charge, Death By Stereo, Dream Theater, Giraffes? Giraffes!, Incubus, Machine Head, The Mars Volta, Mastodon, Pantera, Pennywise (But only live), Primus, QotSA, Shattersphere, Skindred, Sublime, Suicidal Tendencies, TOOL, Trivium, I mean c'mon man I'm running out of characters for this...
PhilR720 2 months ago
Accidentally posted my comment three times. Woops! Youtube had a glitch.
13KHiHats 2 months ago
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Metric modulation is super fun to play with. Gavin Harrison (of Porcupine Tree) is the drummer that I first heard it from. He did it in a song called "Prodigal," towards the very end of the song if anyone is interested. My example of modulation is this: say for example you're playing at 150 bpm, with quarter notes as every hit on a cymbal. If you change those quarters to dotted eighths for every hit, it makes it sound like you sped up. Super fun to play!Just a tip on the topic. BTW, cool video
13KHiHats 2 months ago
Metric modulation is super fun to play with. Gavin Harrison (of Porcupine Tree) is the drummer that I first heard it from. He did it in a song called "Prodigal," towards the very end of the song if anyone is interested. My example of modulation is this: say for example you're playing at 150 bpm, with quarter notes as every hit on a cymbal. If you change those quarters to dotted eighths for every hit, it makes it sound like you sped up. Super fun to play!Just a tip on the topic. BTW, cool video.
13KHiHats 2 months ago
Metric modulation is super fun to play with. Gavin Harrison (of Porcupine Tree) is the drummer that I first heard it from. He did it in a song called "Prodigal," towards the very end of the song if anyone is interested. My example of modulation is this: say for example you're playing at 150 bpm, with quarter notes as every hit on a cymbal. If you change those quarters to dotted eighths for every hit, it makes it sound like you sped up. Super fun to play!Just a tip on the topic. BTW, cool video.
13KHiHats 2 months ago
Can you send me the sheet music for this.
numanuma20 2 months ago
@NicThornsberryDrums JUST so you know this is called the 16th note grid. =]
MrABRdrummer 2 months ago
How long have you been playing a full set ("trap set" for us old folks)? and are you still marching. the suggestion of lowering your throne will feel so foreign at first 2-3 days and then you will start to find more power, speed and new pasterns, grooves, and fills. Keep it up
brickceo 2 months ago
great job man!!!..metric modulation it,s a cool thing!!
juanfecruz 2 months ago
You hit the last one on beat 4, would sound sweeter if you kept in 4/4 and ended on one.
Just my opinion though
ricyarborough 2 months ago
don't listen to that douche - I've been playing drums for 28 years and I've always sat high - its all a matter of preference, there is no set formula - makes rimshots easier too.
tigermilk808 2 months ago
@tigermilk808 28 years? I bet if you adjusted your set properly you'd be better than you are now regardless of how good you are. There is nothing wrong with the advice and someone offering wisdom. and yes I've been playing since 1969 I still have my touring set from '82, 8 ply maple shells, a beast. I also play a set of Hart Pro 6.2. By the way it took me almost a month to find the proper position for the Hart set and completely different than my Pearl set
brickceo 2 months ago
@brickceo I sit about as high as my childhood hero Bernard Purdie - always have always will. It's PURELY a matter of preference...when the advice isn't sound yeah I take issue with it.
tigermilk808 2 months ago
@tigermilk808 Dude (let's keep it PC) Person, the advise is very sound and it's much easier to make this correction now than after he's been playing for 5 frustrating years and sounding like Mick Fleetwood. Even after 28 years you would see more speed, control, better patterns, stick control, hand and foot speed. and yes I have been playing since 1968. I still have my monster 8 ply maple Pearl set from 1984 I also play a Hart Dynamic Pro 6.4 with setup and seating different on each
brickceo 2 months ago
@brickceo
Way to go man!!! You're my kind of guy, but some people just don't want good advise.
I was sitting wrong for years and have improved all kinds of things ( not just seating height) thanks to Dave Weckl's very first video "back to basiscs"!!!
Keep on groovin', grtz, RUDETHEDUDE
rudethedude1959 2 months ago
@tigermilk808
Oh yes, there is a formula for everything, but you don't have to believe me.
Just watch "back to basiscs" from Dave Weckl and you'll be convinced right away, just as much as I was years ago. It took me a big step forward for cleaner playing, faster, smoother and without any muscle pains, all this with a much better sound.
Grtz,
RUDETHEDUDE
rudethedude1959 2 months ago
tempo modulation
bodomtopps 2 months ago
I'll just keep my clothes on, thanks.
JugheadObama 2 months ago
58 people are deaf (y)
Ipopsi10 2 months ago
play not talk.
Gzorz 2 months ago
I really dont see how anyone can saying ANYTHING negative about this video. Its cool!
He is doing a great job!
Telling him about his seat height???
OBVIOUSLY his seat height IS NOT affecting his playing. How many drummer do YOU know that can play 3 consecutive 16th notes in a row at this tempo (cleanly) with ONE bass drum? Not many! CLEARLY the height he sits at is no limiting factor, it works well for him. Sounds good to me!
Cool idea executed very well. Props!
soicanspeak 2 months ago 2
@soicanspeak
He and you would be surprised how important seating height is, just watch the video "back to basics" from Dave Weckl and take your own conclusions!!!
Grtz, RUDETHEDUDE
rudethedude1959 2 months ago
@rudethedude1959
I already have... "drawn my conclusion"
Seat height, technique, ETC - all that DOES NOT MATTER IF you can play your ideas WITHOUT discomfort or pain.
I said he looks relaxed to me and sounds good - AND OBVIUOSLY to be able to play 3 consecutive 16th notes on the bass drum like he did SHOWS / is proof that his seat height IS NOT an issue.
Again, technique IS ONLY A MEANS TO AN END
I bet youre one of those drummers who talks up a storm but cant REALLY play
soicanspeak 2 months ago
@rudethedude1959
Ive owned that video for decades, watched it time and time again.
Technique is great if you need work on it. IT IS NOT meant to get hung up on. It is only a means to an end.
soicanspeak 2 months ago
@soicanspeak
Yes, but never to forget!!!
And most of the drummers out there forget about the basics and that is just what counts!!!
rudethedude1959 2 months ago
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soicanspeak 2 months ago
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@rudethedude1959
dude ur trippin'
You said the drummer in THIS VIDEO "sitting way too high, your legs should have a slight gowing down way."
Not true
His seat height is FINE the way it is. This is based on his PLAYING. Not Dave Weckls video.
Playing versus talking = 2 different things
A persons playing speaks for itself.
This guy is relaxed and pulls off his ideas well. Again, 3 16th notes in a row on a single pedal = his technique / seat height is not a problem
soicanspeak 2 months ago
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@rudethedude1959
dude ur trippin'
You said the drummer in THIS VIDEO "sitting way too high, your legs should have a slight gowing down way."
Not true
His seat height is FINE the way it is. This is based on his PLAYING. Not Dave Weckls video.
Playing versus talking = 2 different things
A persons playing speaks for itself.
This guy is relaxed and pulls off his ideas well. Again, 3 16th notes in a row on a single pedal = his technique / seat height is not a problem
soicanspeak 2 months ago
i'm laughing so HARD!!!!! 5! I wanna hear this stuff again, off the charts. Tis guy needs to show wekkle why he aint in dream theater
jelleepit 2 months ago
@jelleepit
I don't have to show nothing to anyone.Dave would be the best drummer dream theater ever had, but he just wants to be busy with other kinds of music, that's all!!!
And I'm a dream theater fan!!!
rudethedude1959 2 months ago
Wow I learnt loads. Why as a guitarist drummers are so full of shi
jelleepit 2 months ago
@jelleepit
Saying this means that you are the type of "musician" who is not open for any improvement at all!!!
rudethedude1959 2 months ago
thats a cool idea.
I almost didnt watch this video because SO MUCH TALKING BEFORE ANY PLAYING!
But it was worth the wait. Cool idea. Thanks for posting
soicanspeak 2 months ago
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Yes, some cool ideas, but I think you would feel a lot better behind your kit lowering your seat, you are sitting way too high, your legs should have a slight gowing down way.
Watch the very first dave weckl video or dvd " first step" and you'll see right away what I mean.
Good look and keep on groovin', Grtz, RUDETHEDUDE
rudethedude1959 2 months ago
@rudethedude1959 I've tried that but I'm only like 5'6..... when I sit low to where my thighs are parallel with the ground it's harder to play the toms, especially when I play two toms up. I'd rather sit higher than have my shoulders tense up from having to reach to hit my toms haha. Thanks for watching man!
NicThornsberryDrums 2 months ago
@NicThornsberryDrums I feel you on that, i'm 5'8 and have roughly the same problem.
allstar550 2 months ago
@rudethedude1959
f u dude, he sounds good to me - who gives a FK about seat height - technique IS ONLY A MEANS TO AN END
I bet your one of those dork ass drummers who cant REALLY play well, but talks up a storm
His playing on this video is sweet, and he deserves props for it... lets see YOUR video! Probably dont have any!
If someones technique WORKS for them, no need to change it. He looked relaxed to me, no tension or anything else that might cause physical injury. Cool video!
soicanspeak 2 months ago
@soicanspeak
Hi there. Look, I didn't want to attack anyone here, just wanted to give a good advise which I had from weckl's video years ago. It improved my way of playing with lot of improvement on hi-hat and bassdrum, especially while fast playing. Eveything sounded better, cleaner end smoother and I'm also short, 1,65m, that is about 5'5 I think.
I don't see any connection with tom heights to this matter
grtz, RUDETHEDUDE
rudethedude1959 2 months ago
@rudethedude1959
Also, at the end his bass drum technique is great. "e + a" 4 (snare)
those three bass drums notes on e + a right before beat 4 - impressive. Very smooth and natural sounding. GREAT JOB!
OBVIOUSLY his seat height IS NOT in the way of his playing... to be able to play a single pedal like that!
PROPS!
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that is AWESOME! A very simple way to get people to be like, "What the F--, OOHHH SHIT!"
SaculNoshploda 2 months ago
cool rhythm, i originally saw marko marko djordjevic doing this in another video... i adapted that 5 groups of 4 idea and made it into a samba clave, something else thats cool to explore!!
whiteroom05 2 months ago
metric modulation is the tits. I think it grooves really well! If you can pull it back in enough anyway.
TallManUTube 2 months ago
clever
jonyoung09 2 months ago
a good way to get used to quintuplets is by accenting the 1st, 3rd and 5th beats, the accent changing hands on each cycle[cos its an odd number]. this way you can count them easier. note: the hard bit is changing from the fifth beat back around to the first, but if you start slow you will get it in no time :D. then when you remove the accents, you can understand the groove abit better! hope this is helpful.
TheFadeNotts 2 months ago
That was fuck'n good dude!
Lookeebox 2 months ago
i learned alot from this vid, and im not a drummer. very awesome.
koeix2 2 months ago