Seems to me it was the Scots Regiment and on the island of Barataria. Also Capt. Jean LiFitte (privateer) was a hero of the Battle of New Orleans. How do you fight a war or battle by waiting for orders to retreat? This version 0f the song is closer to the original by Jimmy Driftwood (the writer).
@TejasBob This is a song, not a history lesson. It is not ment to be taken literly after all no one saw davy Crockett kill himself a bear when he was only three. The worst part of this Battle was the War was over two weeks
before the Battle began. All those men died in vain
On the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month the guns fell silent. Today we remember. Solemn Greetings on this Remembrance Veterans Poppy Armistice Day to all nations.
And for the for Americans/Canadians Please accept my salute on the anniversary of the Battle of Crysler's Farm Nov 11 1813.
Yes, the Brits in the main attack force did indeed skedaddle, ran away, retreated in a hurry, because they were shot to ribbons & at points repelled in close combat. The USA arty. redoubt had already done great damage by enfilade fire to the main Brit assault & was lightly defended. The Brits didn't have enough boats to cross the river in force & had to cross in relays, while the Brit regt. in the main assault forgot moost of the ladders needed to get across the Rodriguez Canal.
musically its a great song but its a slander on the soldiers on the british army who did not run away..but were shot to hell on the field waiting for orders to retreat....the british casualty list speaks for itself..on the west bank of the river it was the new orleans and kentucky militia who ran away...the british took thier guns and colours to prove it.......marty
@louislungbubble, The Brits did break & run. The arrogant SOBs got the crap shot out of them, & some USAers were in tears at the slaughter. One Brit regt. forgot most of the ladders necessary to cross the Rodrigues canal, & there weren't enough boats to ferry the brits across the river to take the USA arty. battery that enfiladed the Brit main assault. Arrogant SOBs fooked-up through out the entire campaign as a matter of fact.
@christof139 even in defeat the british took honours from the field in the form of a 10 inch howizer captured by the americans at yorktown and the colours of the new orleans militia taken when the americans were driven from the redoubt on the west bank..the british won at the battle of lake bourgne in dec. and after the battle the british still took fort bowyer so they had some limited successes in this disaster of a campaign....the british defeat is without doubt but they were not cowards.
@louislungbubble, The redoubt on the west bank was weakly held genius, & by the time the Brits finally managed to take it it didn't matter. I never said the brits were cowards, but I did say they ran, fled after being shot to ribbons & at points being repelled in close combat. Happens to everyone at one time or another in a war. RN's attack on Spanish Fort was also repelled. The whole campaign was a Brit disaster, a fiasco.
@christof139 why and how do you define me as a genius?? i never stated that you said the british were cowards..the song implies cowardice on the part of the british..thats what i raised here...i suppose thats why were having this discussion...this song was written by a history teacher and a lot of people only know the new orleans campaign by this song....marty
@louislungbubble, 'Genius' in the sense I use it is a sarcastic sense. The song implies joy at winning the battle, even though it was written ~140-years later. Many arrogant type Brits frequently infer that USAers & the French & Spainiards & most other folks are cowards so ... However, this is just a funny song, & the Irish & quite a few Scots like it, as do many French, Spainiards etc. Ever wonder why?
@christof139 yes the sarcasm was obvious..what is not obvious is why you would be sarcastic at all..as to the song ..i happen to like it as a song...just not the slander on the britsh infantry penned by a history teacher..ill quote another historian ,theodore roosevelt , he wrote about the 93rd foot in this battle " but in vain the stubborn mountaineers rushed on,only to die as their comrades had died before them,with unconquerable courage, facing their foe to the last"...marty
@louislungbubble, Yes, many troops of many nations have given their all throughout history. However, when the Am. Rev. comes up there is usually an arrogant Brit that starts with 'in the colonies', 'you provencals', etc. So, we are always ready to repel the Bloody Lobsterbacks on land, sea, air, cyberspace, outerspace, Mars, wherever, we are always on guard so as to keep sneaky devils from bedeviling us. Hopeless I am, but I enjoy it.
@louislungbubble, During the USA 1861-65 civil war the term for fleeing, retreating, running away - & quickly at that, discretion is sometimes the better part of valor, is 'skedaddle'. Skedaddling occurs frequently in all wars, etc.
@louislungbubble, Previous to the assault, the day or so before, the USA arty. damaged & drove off the Brit arty., so it was reduced in effectiveness during the Brit assault. The Brit fleet was also driven off at the old Spanish Fort. There were only a couple of USA inf. coys. on the west bank, & when the Brits finally ferried their troops across the river to overwhelm the USA battery it was too late.
@louislungbubble, On the day of the main Brit Inf. assault, the surprise attack on the USA redoubt on the river bank anchoring the west end of the USA line was beaten off by the out numbered USA defenders in close combat.
We can talk about AWI Batlles too: Princeton, Germantown, Brandywine, Monmouth, Cowpens, King's Mtn., Breed's Hill, Bennington, Saratoga, Assunpink Creek or the 2nd Battle of Trenton, Stony Point, Paulus Hook, Eutaw Springs, Hobkirk's Hill, Guilford Court House, etc.
@christof139 i dont dispute the british lost the battle..i just raised the lyrics of this song in its interpritation of history.yes the 44th foot left the ladders behind,broke and fled..the no1 redoubt was taken by the british and retaken quickly because the supporting 93rd foot were diverted away to assist the british right. the 93rd did not loose thier shiny coats or get chased by hound dogs...they stood on the field in perfect disclipline and were shot to pieces. .regards..marty
@louislungbubble took their guns and colors back home as living proof that the skirmish/attrition techniques perfected by the Kentucky irregulars were spot on devastating against lackluster tactics the "brilliant" Brits borrowed from the Romans. Change is good sometimes. Did you really just write "miths"?
@BroughamConspiracy whats this?? no one is disputing the american victory or the failure of the conduct of the battle on the british side....i am disputing the message of the song who,s words were written by a history teacher to help educate schoolchildren about the war of 1812. everyone knows this song......why not...its a great song to listen to...but a lot of people know the battle of new orleans only by this song not from academic study.
@BroughamConspiracy what myths have i written mate?..its a myth that the brits "ran away like billy goats" after two volleys..theodore roosevelt who was a true patriot as you know wrote in his book "the naval war of 1812" not only high praise for the bravery of some of the british infantry that day..but he called the conduct of the kentucky and new orleans militia on the west bank of the river "a disgrace to the american arms"
@louislungbubble, The USA heavy battery on the west bank had done severe damage during the main Brit assault, & the Brits didn't have enough boats gathered in time to cross the river to capture it until late in the battle. The battery was lightly defended. A surprise Brit attack by about 4 Co.'s of Jamaican Rangers on the USA redoubt on the east bank was beaten off by 2 USA Co.'s in close combat. Then the Brit Inf. Regt. assigned to carry ladders to cross the Rodriguez Canal forgot most of them
@louislungbubble, IOTW, the Brits got their rear ends handed to them due to their own lack of organization & overconfidence. The USA defensive line was built over a period of ~1-week & was vey strong with much arty. emplaced along it. The USA arty. & Brit arty. dueled before the battle & the brit. arty. withdrew. During the main assault the intense fire & slaughter at some points was great & many USA troops had tears in their eyes as they fired. The Brits eventually broke & ran.
A bunch of Redcoats come over 3 thousand miles and burn the White House then attack New Orleans and you call Jackson and his ragtag army TERRORIST. You LOST get over it.
@stephenbiboy " The original terrorists and traitors" ? What an odd thing for you to say. You used to be proud of the fact that " the sun never sets on the British empire ". Did all those countries and people come to you and ask to be part of your empire or were they persuaded by Brown Bess, pitch capping, hanging, etc. I would hazard that the Irish, Scotish, Zulus, Indians, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. (ad infinitum) might differ with your assesment.
If you would take another look you will find that I added "Hercules" several months ago to YT. You have to go in several pages on Vaughn's site to find it.
What the...? I am a HUGE Johnny Horton fan and a pretty big fan of Monroe, too, and had no idea Monroe ever did this. If I'd never heard Horton's version I'd probably like this one, but I'm too BIG of a Horton fan to "accept" this... LOL!!
If you didn't know in the Old days there would be several versions of the same song. It seems every record company would come out with their recording. You picked the one you liked. That didn't make one better or worse than the other. sometimes it mattered if you were a country fan, jazz or 50's pop. I take it your country me I'm 50's Pop.
Yeah, I know that back then (and still now) they'll record versions of a song in different genres at the same time... Heartaches by the Number a good example (Mitch Miller and Ray Price... both are great!) As I said in my original post, I LOVE Johnny Horton and I really like Monroe, too... I just never knew he did this song, but he did it his way, and its fine. I just prefer Horton's version, since its the one I know best. I did get a kick out of Monroe's, and its different verses/lyrics. :-)
I don't have a book on the Canada or Australian charts I do on the British Charts.
My U.S. Top 100 only went to 1960 so you can see how old that one is. And Yes I looked and he one one on the Bubbling under the 100. I thought I had most of Vaughn's recordings but I have never heard of the "Queen Of The Prom"
It sure doesn't sound like a Monroe type song, but then neither did "Black Demen Jacket" or "In The Middle Of The House" till he did them.
it was not his last chart hit oh no there wer others like 1965's queen of the prom that charted and duble dutch a..and ..others..on dot early 60's that charted in canada charts and hot 100 USA and bublng under chars and Australian charts too. a great singer thanks for posting.
just awesome!!!
tonilyn82 5 months ago
Vaughn Monroe had an amazing voice.
My dad loved Racing with the Moon.
Thank you for posting this.
George Vreeland Hill
GeorgeVreelandHill 9 months ago
Seems to me it was the Scots Regiment and on the island of Barataria. Also Capt. Jean LiFitte (privateer) was a hero of the Battle of New Orleans. How do you fight a war or battle by waiting for orders to retreat? This version 0f the song is closer to the original by Jimmy Driftwood (the writer).
TejasBob 9 months ago
@TejasBob This is a song, not a history lesson. It is not ment to be taken literly after all no one saw davy Crockett kill himself a bear when he was only three. The worst part of this Battle was the War was over two weeks
before the Battle began. All those men died in vain
markalson1938 9 months ago
We have the same battles today trying to keep the wetbacks on the other side of the Rio Grande
sunrecords56 1 year ago
On the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month the guns fell silent. Today we remember. Solemn Greetings on this Remembrance Veterans Poppy Armistice Day to all nations.
And for the for Americans/Canadians Please accept my salute on the anniversary of the Battle of Crysler's Farm Nov 11 1813.
Eddythebeast666 1 year ago
Only found this version today,and I like it.I v'e always played the Lonnie Donegan version
kf001u1894 1 year ago
Yes, the Brits in the main attack force did indeed skedaddle, ran away, retreated in a hurry, because they were shot to ribbons & at points repelled in close combat. The USA arty. redoubt had already done great damage by enfilade fire to the main Brit assault & was lightly defended. The Brits didn't have enough boats to cross the river in force & had to cross in relays, while the Brit regt. in the main assault forgot moost of the ladders needed to get across the Rodriguez Canal.
christof139 1 year ago
Song was written by Johnny Driftwood.
christof139 1 year ago
we bailed you limey bastidds out of ww2
herminestover 1 year ago
musically its a great song but its a slander on the soldiers on the british army who did not run away..but were shot to hell on the field waiting for orders to retreat....the british casualty list speaks for itself..on the west bank of the river it was the new orleans and kentucky militia who ran away...the british took thier guns and colours to prove it.......marty
louislungbubble 1 year ago
@louislungbubble
History is always written by the winning side and from this always comes miths that may not tell the whole story.
markalson1938 1 year ago
@louislungbubble, The Brits did break & run. The arrogant SOBs got the crap shot out of them, & some USAers were in tears at the slaughter. One Brit regt. forgot most of the ladders necessary to cross the Rodrigues canal, & there weren't enough boats to ferry the brits across the river to take the USA arty. battery that enfiladed the Brit main assault. Arrogant SOBs fooked-up through out the entire campaign as a matter of fact.
christof139 1 year ago
@christof139 even in defeat the british took honours from the field in the form of a 10 inch howizer captured by the americans at yorktown and the colours of the new orleans militia taken when the americans were driven from the redoubt on the west bank..the british won at the battle of lake bourgne in dec. and after the battle the british still took fort bowyer so they had some limited successes in this disaster of a campaign....the british defeat is without doubt but they were not cowards.
louislungbubble 1 year ago
@louislungbubble, The redoubt on the west bank was weakly held genius, & by the time the Brits finally managed to take it it didn't matter. I never said the brits were cowards, but I did say they ran, fled after being shot to ribbons & at points being repelled in close combat. Happens to everyone at one time or another in a war. RN's attack on Spanish Fort was also repelled. The whole campaign was a Brit disaster, a fiasco.
christof139 1 year ago
@christof139 why and how do you define me as a genius?? i never stated that you said the british were cowards..the song implies cowardice on the part of the british..thats what i raised here...i suppose thats why were having this discussion...this song was written by a history teacher and a lot of people only know the new orleans campaign by this song....marty
louislungbubble 1 year ago
@louislungbubble, 'Genius' in the sense I use it is a sarcastic sense. The song implies joy at winning the battle, even though it was written ~140-years later. Many arrogant type Brits frequently infer that USAers & the French & Spainiards & most other folks are cowards so ... However, this is just a funny song, & the Irish & quite a few Scots like it, as do many French, Spainiards etc. Ever wonder why?
christof139 1 year ago
@christof139 yes the sarcasm was obvious..what is not obvious is why you would be sarcastic at all..as to the song ..i happen to like it as a song...just not the slander on the britsh infantry penned by a history teacher..ill quote another historian ,theodore roosevelt , he wrote about the 93rd foot in this battle " but in vain the stubborn mountaineers rushed on,only to die as their comrades had died before them,with unconquerable courage, facing their foe to the last"...marty
louislungbubble 1 year ago
@louislungbubble, Yes, many troops of many nations have given their all throughout history. However, when the Am. Rev. comes up there is usually an arrogant Brit that starts with 'in the colonies', 'you provencals', etc. So, we are always ready to repel the Bloody Lobsterbacks on land, sea, air, cyberspace, outerspace, Mars, wherever, we are always on guard so as to keep sneaky devils from bedeviling us. Hopeless I am, but I enjoy it.
christof139 1 year ago
@louislungbubble, During the USA 1861-65 civil war the term for fleeing, retreating, running away - & quickly at that, discretion is sometimes the better part of valor, is 'skedaddle'. Skedaddling occurs frequently in all wars, etc.
christof139 1 year ago
@louislungbubble, Previous to the assault, the day or so before, the USA arty. damaged & drove off the Brit arty., so it was reduced in effectiveness during the Brit assault. The Brit fleet was also driven off at the old Spanish Fort. There were only a couple of USA inf. coys. on the west bank, & when the Brits finally ferried their troops across the river to overwhelm the USA battery it was too late.
christof139 1 year ago
@louislungbubble, On the day of the main Brit Inf. assault, the surprise attack on the USA redoubt on the river bank anchoring the west end of the USA line was beaten off by the out numbered USA defenders in close combat.
We can talk about AWI Batlles too: Princeton, Germantown, Brandywine, Monmouth, Cowpens, King's Mtn., Breed's Hill, Bennington, Saratoga, Assunpink Creek or the 2nd Battle of Trenton, Stony Point, Paulus Hook, Eutaw Springs, Hobkirk's Hill, Guilford Court House, etc.
christof139 1 year ago
@christof139 i dont dispute the british lost the battle..i just raised the lyrics of this song in its interpritation of history.yes the 44th foot left the ladders behind,broke and fled..the no1 redoubt was taken by the british and retaken quickly because the supporting 93rd foot were diverted away to assist the british right. the 93rd did not loose thier shiny coats or get chased by hound dogs...they stood on the field in perfect disclipline and were shot to pieces. .regards..marty
louislungbubble 1 year ago
@louislungbubble took their guns and colors back home as living proof that the skirmish/attrition techniques perfected by the Kentucky irregulars were spot on devastating against lackluster tactics the "brilliant" Brits borrowed from the Romans. Change is good sometimes. Did you really just write "miths"?
BroughamConspiracy 1 year ago
@BroughamConspiracy whats this?? no one is disputing the american victory or the failure of the conduct of the battle on the british side....i am disputing the message of the song who,s words were written by a history teacher to help educate schoolchildren about the war of 1812. everyone knows this song......why not...its a great song to listen to...but a lot of people know the battle of new orleans only by this song not from academic study.
louislungbubble 1 year ago
@BroughamConspiracy what myths have i written mate?..its a myth that the brits "ran away like billy goats" after two volleys..theodore roosevelt who was a true patriot as you know wrote in his book "the naval war of 1812" not only high praise for the bravery of some of the british infantry that day..but he called the conduct of the kentucky and new orleans militia on the west bank of the river "a disgrace to the american arms"
louislungbubble 1 year ago
@louislungbubble, The USA heavy battery on the west bank had done severe damage during the main Brit assault, & the Brits didn't have enough boats gathered in time to cross the river to capture it until late in the battle. The battery was lightly defended. A surprise Brit attack by about 4 Co.'s of Jamaican Rangers on the USA redoubt on the east bank was beaten off by 2 USA Co.'s in close combat. Then the Brit Inf. Regt. assigned to carry ladders to cross the Rodriguez Canal forgot most of them
christof139 1 year ago
@louislungbubble, IOTW, the Brits got their rear ends handed to them due to their own lack of organization & overconfidence. The USA defensive line was built over a period of ~1-week & was vey strong with much arty. emplaced along it. The USA arty. & Brit arty. dueled before the battle & the brit. arty. withdrew. During the main assault the intense fire & slaughter at some points was great & many USA troops had tears in their eyes as they fired. The Brits eventually broke & ran.
christof139 1 year ago
THE ORIGINAL TERRORISTS AND TRAITORS
stephenbiboy 1 year ago
@stephenbiboy
A bunch of Redcoats come over 3 thousand miles and burn the White House then attack New Orleans and you call Jackson and his ragtag army TERRORIST. You LOST get over it.
markalson1938 1 year ago 5
@markalson1938 It (the War of 1812) was a draw. No clear winner. This was the genesis of Canadian identity though.
rdsanchez1966 1 year ago
@stephenbiboy " The original terrorists and traitors" ? What an odd thing for you to say. You used to be proud of the fact that " the sun never sets on the British empire ". Did all those countries and people come to you and ask to be part of your empire or were they persuaded by Brown Bess, pitch capping, hanging, etc. I would hazard that the Irish, Scotish, Zulus, Indians, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. (ad infinitum) might differ with your assesment.
Rikki0 9 months ago
great song i like the rythm
silentshadw7 2 years ago
yeah right! England is actually one of our colonies. God Bless America
thincow12 2 years ago
the british will crush you
dowlo32 2 years ago
The flip side of this record was Hercules by Vaughan Monroe. Can anyone stick that on. Haven't heard it since I was 4.
adebarde1 2 years ago
If you would take another look you will find that I added "Hercules" several months ago to YT. You have to go in several pages on Vaughn's site to find it.
markalson1938 2 years ago
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i cant stop listening to this
starcraft2222 2 years ago
What the...? I am a HUGE Johnny Horton fan and a pretty big fan of Monroe, too, and had no idea Monroe ever did this. If I'd never heard Horton's version I'd probably like this one, but I'm too BIG of a Horton fan to "accept" this... LOL!!
Bugeyedbat 3 years ago 2
If you didn't know in the Old days there would be several versions of the same song. It seems every record company would come out with their recording. You picked the one you liked. That didn't make one better or worse than the other. sometimes it mattered if you were a country fan, jazz or 50's pop. I take it your country me I'm 50's Pop.
markalson1938 3 years ago
Yeah, I know that back then (and still now) they'll record versions of a song in different genres at the same time... Heartaches by the Number a good example (Mitch Miller and Ray Price... both are great!) As I said in my original post, I LOVE Johnny Horton and I really like Monroe, too... I just never knew he did this song, but he did it his way, and its fine. I just prefer Horton's version, since its the one I know best. I did get a kick out of Monroe's, and its different verses/lyrics. :-)
Bugeyedbat 3 years ago 3
i completely agree with you
spinynorman230 2 years ago
I don't have a book on the Canada or Australian charts I do on the British Charts.
My U.S. Top 100 only went to 1960 so you can see how old that one is. And Yes I looked and he one one on the Bubbling under the 100. I thought I had most of Vaughn's recordings but I have never heard of the "Queen Of The Prom"
It sure doesn't sound like a Monroe type song, but then neither did "Black Demen Jacket" or "In The Middle Of The House" till he did them.
markalson1938 3 years ago
it was not his last chart hit oh no there wer others like 1965's queen of the prom that charted and duble dutch a..and ..others..on dot early 60's that charted in canada charts and hot 100 USA and bublng under chars and Australian charts too. a great singer thanks for posting.
johnmaloney67 3 years ago
Vaughn Monroe's version isn't as well known as the very popular Johnny Horton recording but it is also very good. Thanks for posting.
mostliketa 3 years ago