Peace Groups Challenge Congress to End the War

[electroman076]

HOW IS THIS WAR ILLIGAL????

HEY MORONS WERE YOU STONED AT THE TIME OR DID YOU MISS

THE FACT....

THAT the congress and the senate both VOTED AND ISSUED BUSH THE RIGHT TO USE FORCE!!!!!!!

And in case you missed it HILLARY, BIDEN AND MANY OTHER DEMOCRATS VOTED FOR THIS...

SO IS THE VICE PRESIDNET BIDEN A WAR CRIMIAL....

I GUESS SEC OF STATE CLINTON IS A WAR CRIMINAL TOO!!!!!

[electroman076]

OK MORONS!!!!!

I am not even going to begin arguing with people so insane as to believe that 911 was an iside job but I ASK YOU THIS.........

IF THIS IS ALL THE FAULT OF BUSH....

WHY THE HELL ARE WE STILL THERE???

DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN IN CONTROL OF THE CONGRESS AND THE SENATE SINCE 2007......

NOW THEY HAVE THE WHITE HOUSE TOO...

SO THE DEMOCRATS ARE IN CHARGE OF 3 out of 3

IF THEY WERE SO AGIANST THE WAR THEN WHY THE HELL ARE WE STILL THERE????

[Reality301]

9/11 Was an inside job.. let's get out of Iraq and end the 'War on Terror' ASAP.

[LTCJeffWhite]

By the way - this so-called "Peace Community" gained THEIR legitimacy exactly how?

They counsel a unilateral to a fight which is ongoing, and in which we assist allies, not in destroying formations of ebemy troops, but in standing guard over a society which is in the cross-hairs of maniacs and child murderers.

[LTCJeffWhite]

These Peace monkeys demand a unilateral cessation of a fight without any notion of what to do about the enemy. Insanity.

Is the enemy not evil? Do they not carve off the heads of their living political and religious enemies? Do they have a LEGITIMATE point, or desire, or interest?

No.

[RASMISS]

By the way I dont support those Peace freaks who think everyone is great but America but I dont support fighting,invading countries for the sake of it based on lies. I disagree a lot with those people as many times they are hypocrites but this time they are correct . We had no reason to invade Iraq it was all lies . Same lies my dad told me if I got good grades he would pay for 1/2 my car ALL lies lol .

[LTCJeffWhite]

I will give it to you again.

The rationale was WMD. He had them. he used them to kill 400,000 of his own people. He had launched theater ballistic missiles to neighbors with whom you might say he was at peace - 27 of them.

It is child's play to put nerve agent in a SCUD. He had and hid, SCUDs.

[RASMISS]

Scuds arent WMD . I imagine most if not all of those Middle East countries have them they were no threat to us. A scud could never reach us not even close. Its not out job to now defend Arab countries from each other .I dont care who Saddam invades they are all in constant way anyway again we invaded based on lies . Scuds are not WMD

[LTCJeffWhite]

And how is abandonment of a nation under assault by murderers peace?

All this is is retreat. These airheads in this video mistakebly believe that America is the cause of the war. We have no choice about the war - except where to fight it.

These people dream - and their dream is mostly unconsciousness, like the dream of peace in Vietnam...

[LTCJeffWhite]

They look the other way regarding bombings of civlians, and police stations, markets, schools, ice cream stands.

Why is it so difficult for them to see that the enemy here is attacking the very people of Iraq?

Nobody wants us there - we don't want to BE there, they don't want us there -- except in prefernce to the alternative...

[LTCJeffWhite]

These people are the worst sort of fools - dedicated to a proposition which is false and destructive.

International Law? What body sorts that out? Does Communist China really deserve a seat at any table to determine the future of any country, including China?

All nations were not created equal.

War criminals? The crime is the abandonment of freedom and a people who are as worthy as any California or New York liberal.

[RASMISS]

NEITHER political party is going to bring troops home BOTH parties are failures. Pelosi has been a huge let down. I hope Independents take Democrat votes as many like me wont vote for do nothing Democrats ever again

[LTCJeffWhite]

Thank God the Democrats finally focused grouped themselves to the conclusion that Americans don't wish to lose a war.

Democrats sought power at any price - they never believed in peace.

Clinton was the man who made it US policy to change that regime anyway - Oct 31 1998 Iraq Liberation Act.

[globalgringo]

Peace only occurs after periods of brutal War!

You can't have peace without war so where do you appeasing socialists stand?

Are you with us or against us? It's crystal clear.

If you are for Peace, you are for seventh century throat cutters, you are for Euro molestors and you are for appeasing socialist enemies within, the Democrat Party.

[LTCJeffWhite]

Although paradoxical, this is essentially true.

Another way to say it might be - peace is not the prefered condition when facing murdering tyrannical barbarians - but war.

Let's have perpetual war against despots and tyrants, and bombers of children.

[audioslave2300]

Why doesnt he bring up all the money the Dems are making off this war of profit? The Clintons have earned over 7 million dollars, Feingold of Wisconsin has earned 3 million, and even Ted Kennedy has earned near 1.5 million. Do you think that is why the Dems failed to act on their promise if elected they would bring the troops home now?? BULLSHIT all across the political board.

[LTCJeffWhite]

Excellent points.

[SMDAHL]

PrayingForWar: Those of us whose research runs a little deeper than listening to tv magicians/comedians are petitioning our government for justice. You are a great poster child for your ilk. Please keep posting. You are giving anti-war activists free support with your incisive commentary.

[LTCJeffWhite]

Yeah - boy you really unhinge us with the whole --

-- freedom of 27 million Iraqis is nothing,

-- Arabs can't handle democracy

-- Saddam wasn't such a bad guy

thing.

[LTCJeffWhite]

Justice?

And you think abandoning the future prospects of 27 million people would be just?

You think giving them over to those who believe it legitimate to blow up hundreds of marketgoers is just?

What will you use peace for? Peace is wasted on you. You pay no price for war, as we Soldiers do - your feigned concern for the "human cost" frankly sounds to me like political theater.

What's your REAL interest?

[ozone914]

attention :LTCjeffwhite please do you own research.

1. steel does not melt with jet fuel. 2. buildings dont collapse at free fall speed without detonation.

what about building 7 why was it pulled? 3. why was was ordered to stand down, they were on drills conducting false flag operations. 4. point is 9/11 was an inside job, a false flag operation to justify a illegal war.money spent is money denied to American interests. it is you sir who needs to reevaluate who and why you serve.

[LTCJeffWhite]

You are a gullible fool, is my candid and well-studied assessment. Buildings free fall once enough weight is in motion - But think about it - that implosion surprised most of us. I wonder if even the terrorists expected that.

Was the earlier bombing also an inside job?

What happened to four aircraft worth of passengers and crew?

[RASMISS]

I agree terrorists hit us but Saddam had nothing to do with it. They were Saudis and Saudis still burn the candle at both ends . Yet Pres Bush continued to lie and try to blame Saddam or tie him in to 9-11 that was the first bunch of lies he told. I agreed with Afghanistan as did most people but going to Iraq he overreached and we have no business there . I also do not think Arabs can handle democracy as non PC as that may be and in Iraq we are for decades till we are ruined .

[LTCJeffWhite]

Nor did Hitler have anything to do with Pearl Harbor.

We were thrust into war, and forced to consider all threats.

Lies? Check out what others said at the time.

[RASMISS]

Hitler was marching on Europe infact he had . Saddam was contained couldnt march anywhere . Was in Kuwait than regreted it. Saddams army was no German army thats for sure

[LTCJeffWhite]

Ah, all that would have changed had he gotten nukes - no?

Think about it.

[LTCJeffWhite]

This is not the first experience of Arabs with democracy - the Ottoman Empire had a functioning Constitution in 1870. Turks have a functioning democracy.

Why can't Arabs rule themselves? What despot should then rule them if they can't?

[RASMISS]

Where have they had a functioning democracy ? They go right back to Islam rule or will vote in Islamic rule than we step in and say " oh no you can have a free system but it has to be who we like" and the whole mess starts again. They have never had non Islamic democracy yet we are so blind we think we can impose it on them or they can hold on to it.

[LTCJeffWhite]

Why does an Islamic state have to be undemocratic?

All we insist upon is stability and no genocide, really.

Kurds cannot be murdered en masse by Shi'i, or Sunni, and nobody else is up for being victims of genocide. That's it.

How is that too ambitious?

[LTCJeffWhite]

We need to address the infectious teachings of Wahhabism - being taught in northern Virginia, by the way - 80% of mosques in the US funded by Saudi Arabia - and no Bible permitted anywhere in Saudi Arabia.

Here is a legitimate free speech limitation argument. It is no man's right to preach the murder of others due to their faith, or to preach violent overthrow of the democratic government of the nation where he lives and could speak freely against.

[RASMISS]

Your right but those are the Saudis they are the ones who are the enemy greater enemy than Saddam was yet we support them and keep that vile family in power while their own people pray to overthrow them. The Saudis flew the planes into the towers they arm our enemies they are the problem again Iraq was a country we did not have any reason to invade.

[SMDAHL]

Ever heard of WTC 7? What caused that building to free fall? Larry Silverstein admitted to "pulling" it on Frontline. Explain that "well-studied".

[RASMISS]

I believe the buildings did fall due to the planes everything that could have gone wrong for us and right for Osama and his bunch did that day. However Osama is not Saddam they infact HATED each other . Thats my prob with Bush and Iraq . Its no joke invading another country its not to be taken lightly and Saddam has vile as he was had nothing to do with 9-11 nor had WMD . Every month Bush had a different reason for invading .

[LTCJeffWhite]

Hitler probably hated Hirohito as well - after all, he was only an honorary Aryan.

Believe me, I know better than most the costs of invading and conquering a country.

But we were perfectly justified in deposing Saddam, and had Land Power leaders had better access to the President, versus Navy people like Rumsfeld - we would have made the proper investment in reconstruction at the start.

[LTCJeffWhite]

Well-studied generally refers to a person such as myself, who, through either personal experience, scholarly work, or individual research - or, optimally, the combination of all of these - arrives at his conclusions.

There are both powerful evidences against your theory, and very little evidence for it.

[LTCJeffWhite]

As one of teh Americans standing with the Iraqi people against terror, fighting to stop the murderers of children there on a daily basis, I would appreciate it if you well-intentioned but ill-informed hippies would switch sides to our side, to the side of justice, and work to counter those who are responsible for the bloodshed.

George Bush is no murderer, but Muqtada al Sadr is, and Al Qaida are -

Please, get over yourselves and see that you are an ally to very evil people.

[grailmaiden]

keep hope alive

great video

Friday, Sept 7th we had 200 people demonstrate at California, Sacramento state capitol dome.

Here in Sacramento - we have 40 local peace groups and at least 3 days a week there has been a demonstration since the war began 4 1/2 years ago

[LTCJeffWhite]

Where there is no justice, there can never be peace.

Where is your activism designed to stop the Islamo-fascists? Go to their strongholds and protest their murders in the market places, why don't you?

You fools. You make no sacrifice, pay no price at all - have never been to Iraq, and yet you know it all...

Your ignorance sentences people to slavery and oppression.

[LTCJeffWhite]

Slavery and oppression which you are silent to explain or defend - you have no response but to vote against me.

Well, thank God the American people are both too intelligent, and too highly principled than to put up with this cowardly, defeatist, self-serving vomit.

[ozone914]

power to the people!!

[LTCJeffWhite]

The People deserve slavery, if they refuse to educate themselves to the realities of the world.

And that is what they will get.

Meanwhile, there are others who appreciate liberty and are willing to help others to get and maintain it.

Read Kennedy's innaugural - that said it all.

[theprits]

Thank you so much. You are true patriots.

[LTCJeffWhite]

Not by my estimate - rather, those enemies of the war are friends of our enemies.

Benedict Arnold never did so much damage to freedom.

[RASMISS]

My dad was in last Gulf war he was in Kuwait (13B artillery) . He would disagree with you. I will say this your young for a LTC so congrates He was just an E4 . We had no right to INVADE Iraq ESP based on lies .

[LTCJeffWhite]

There were no lies.

Saddam had WMD, and was pursuing more. He killed almost half a million civilians with Chemical weapons and we found literally thousands more rounds when we invaded.

Saddam was the greatest mass murderer in that region's history - he was also bribing our "allies," and dealing with every rogue regime.

[LTCJeffWhite]

I started out in the artilery as well - in 1985.

Honest people differ - and thank your father for his service.

But Saddam had to be taken out of power, and it happened not a moment too soon. He possessed THOUSANDS of rounds of chemical weapons - which he had used on his own people.

[RASMISS]

My dad was very conservative than changed . He was in 101st with 1/98 howitzers think thats what they are. He has honorable and medals but hated the army. Couldnt wait to get out . Iraq is going to financially ruin America its money poured in the sewer you think they will ever have a stabilized gvmt or a gvmt that is not corrupt ? What WMD did Saddam have ? he had some outdated old chemical stuff nothing the rest of world doesnt have.

[LTCJeffWhite]

The Middle East is central to the modern world - with resources which drive the global economy, and an intractible, endlessly expansive violent ideology emanating from it.

Will America ever have a govt that is not corrupt?

Who else USED the weapons as he?

[RASMISS]

Lol I agree America will NEVER have a gvmt that isnt corrupt but nothing like the Arab countries not yet anyway lol. What weapons did Saddam have that he used . He used gas against Iran . Thats a bad thing ?. Let them destroy each other by going into Iraq we now are the referee in that never ending mess of Arabs. It will destroy us . He was no threat to us but being in Iraq year after year is a threat to United States.

[LTCJeffWhite]

I have seen dead people's votes in North Carolina, and manslaughterers serving in the US Senate.

We gave Saddam intelligence to help him fight the Iranians, according to Rashid Khalidi.

How is being in Iraq year after year a threat to us? We make progress every day, man. The Iraqi Police and Armed forces are more capable each day. We're getting out as soon as we can.

[LTCJeffWhite]

.48% of America wears a uniform, as few as during any war in our history. We invaded and conquered Mexico, and took all the Spanish colonies worldwide with a similar percentage.

I'd like to have more - but so far, those we have are doing exceptionally well, in my view - of course, I am hopelessly biased though.

Why don't you suggest we decommission three or four aircraft carriers?

[RASMISS]

iraq is a financial anchor on our neck its draining us the people as a whole have lost confidence in BOTH political parties-The stock market has suffered and we have lost world credebility by invading Iraq. I dont care about the rest of the world but I cant argue when we did INVADE a country that had nothing to do with 9-11

[LTCJeffWhite]

involuntary Taxes, failing to support unjustified Entitlements such as Social Security - and all the new ideas and new deals, outside the responsibility of Constitutional government, are what endanger us most.

I'm glad we invaded it, and hope we would do it again - but with more focused effort on winning domestic popular support.

[LTCJeffWhite]

That old outdated stuff was Weapons of Mass Destruction, weaponized sarin gas, something a leader could put on a SCUD missile - which SCUDS he ALSO possessed, and 27 of which he fired into Israel.

Iraq is worth my life, and every penny in the treasury, unless you prize money more than life and liberty.

[theprits]

Get off the Red Bull Jeff. There is no such thing as an Islamo Fascist. Your president made that up to incite you. And I see it worked! Saddam had no WMDs. We illegally invaded his country and started a war. We have killed far more Iraqis than Saddam has. And nearly 4000 of our soldiers are DEAD.

Support the troops. Bring them home alive. And soon.

[RASMISS]

If there is such a thing as Islamo facist it certainly wasnt in Iraq . Saddam killed them they ran to Iran or afghanistan they feared him. He wouldnt tolerate it as it was a threat to him. So lets say just to make a point there is Islamo facist than removing Saddam was a mistake . Al queda wasnt in Iraq (they are now) because Saddam would wipe out a village at the scent of Al queda .

[LTCJeffWhite]

No Nazis in Japan either - right?

I mean, there was that one German on the Japanese submarine in the movie 1941 - but really, Nazism did not motivate the attack on Pearl Harbor.

[LTCJeffWhite]

I like the opening attack - as though it were a fault to be passionate about life and death matters - it is not.

Frankly, I doubt Bush invented the term - but I have read all one needs to understand Islamofascism from the primary source material - the Holy Qur'an, and from history.

[LTCJeffWhite]

Of what country?

There is no Utopia - and it has no flag.

Patriotism is a word you could understand better, I think.

Liberty or death.

[petep69]

This was on Wednesday, September 5th. More actions will be needed, but I keep praying Congress will come to its senses.

[petep69]

Fantastic letter and we will need further action! I keep praying the Congress will come to its senses.