For me the gloomiest and best performance of this concerto ever is by Severin von Eckardstein from Queen Elisabeth Piano Competition 2003. Check it out as well!
@TheSwordsweeper ... No I mean that at some moments I have the feeling that Prokofiev wanted to write more notes than he actually did, so he left some "gaps", and because of the technical difficulty, it seems a real pain to bring out the melody in a good way.
Why is it that at the ending of the cadenza colossale that the brass always seem to be a little off, and in some cases, pretty badly off? I mean the accented d minor arpeggios should be able to show where the beat is.
Demons fighting for a new soul at the gates of hell is what this is about. Just mindblowing stuff... The complexity of emotion portrayed in this music is impossible to beat.
@stabernz Wow! Where did you hear this from? I really would like to read more on this! This music really does have the power to conjure images of hell and its demonic fury! Sublime Prokofiev!
i have found a "movie moment" when at 5:28 the shot passes from the whole orchestra to the pianist's hands. the right hand seems to want to bend the keyboard, then it vanishes to recomparing at 5:37 with grace. cool.
@risktakerdaito oh youre right! that is a good way of doing that. Im trying to learn this at the moment and ive been struggling with that thanks for pointing it out :-)
Welcome for your comment!!! I think Lugansky is a good pianist. I appreciate his musical talent because he has good technique and score reading skill, too. He always uses his technique for playing the piano beautifully not for showing himself off.
Really ? Prokofiev said that he couldn't play this properly. He said that the 4th movement was quite hard for him and couldn't play the big chords jumps flawlessly
@COCOONFABULA Prokofiev never write his music thinking if anyone else could play it in mind. Even when commissioned. He was really only concerned if he could play it. He was an absolute Prodigy
Even after I've listened a lot of versions this one stayes as my favorite ))
Какое-то в нём есть благородство наполненное в высшей степени драматизмом,приэтом абсолютно целостно и едино. невероятно! Прям до слёз пробирает каждый,каждый раз :)
I don't like his playing here, I know he is famous, and that he is very good technically, and what he does is clear, well thought out and well executed, but his playing doesn't move me at all. Its too dry and calculated and lacks the spontaneity and raw passion that is so important.
If you want to listen to a REALLY good performance of this concerto, I would recommend hearing the Ashkenazy/Previn recording or Anna Vinnitskaya's performance from the Queen Elizabeth Competition.
So, this is really a question of taste. For my taste, this music is sooo full of dramatic it self, that when also the pianist extra passion adds, it seems rediculus. I find this almost intellectuell performance a highlight, because of the nature of the music it self, and because of the aesthetic values af our time.
Actually you are right! Thank you soooo much for the correction. As a kid I had many many "old school" vinyl albums of Richter. I went through my collection and realized that it was the 1st and the 5th that I had recordings of.
How can you make statements like 'richter never played this concerto'? I'm sure at some point richter played this somewhere... he must've... he was so close with prokofiev after all... Perhaps you do have research that I do not...
Well of course Richter may have played through the piece at some stage or other, but as far as i know, like the 3rd concerto it was not part of his repertoire and there are definitely no recordings available of him playing the piece.
Kartoonstew, Richter led a very detailed list of his repertoire and performances. (As another example, we KNOW for sure, that he never performed, publically at least, Rach's 3rd.)
@LesterWong2 He nevered played the 5th of beethoven,and the moonlight sonata either,he sais that too much people played it so he doesn't have toi,he also doesn't like to preforme very famous pieces and never recordes and integral(except bach and shostakovich preludes and fugues^^)for the liste of Richter repertoir:book,the enigma ^^
True, the third isn't in Richter's discography. He played with Karel Ancerl a great, thrilling first, though. It's on a CD coupled with two other gems. First, the rendition of the second concerto I love the most. Played by Dagmar Baloghová, Karel Ancerl and the Czech Philharmonic. With a focus on colour, lyricism, interaction between soloist and orchestra, and an excellent sense for climactic development. And second, a witty version of the Classical Symphony.
@ThomasJBromley I don't know if I'm telling the truth, but Richter never played this concerto because some people have already played it very very good. I repeat, I don't know if I'm good.
The filming is beautiful, and so is the setting - wonder where it was. It's quite a different interpretation - such tenderness & beautiful tone. It's not perfectly architected, but it's still very enjoyable. I suppose Lugansky is a good Chopin player...
amazing i know the cadenza is a bit stretched, but i love it nonetheless. i listen all the time to this. Russian pro's. It would be interesting to hear Volodos interpretation of this...
Complètement dingue !!! Ce pianiste est vraiment un surhomme !! C'est déconcernant le calme qu'il garde dans cette folie furieuse ! Bravo et respect !!
Name-calling is uncalled for. Ms. Taylor is entitled to an opinion. In fact, I agree with much of what she says: Lugansky is overly cautious. I've heard countless versions of this concerto and Lugansky's would not be counted among the better ones.
It is a pity that those of us who love music are forced to read comments like yours (at least whilst they remain amongst the last comments posted). "Some (most) pieces are just ok"? Give us a break...
I didn't like this interpretation at all.. It's dragging most of the cadenza for what I'm used to, and it seems very static. When it's loud it's just loud. There isn't movement. Most times it seems like it's not really going anywhere.
I know he's talanted, but his style is way too different for me :\ (Don't kill me, I'm allowed to have an opinion).
I agree to a small extent as well. It is a very difficult piece to pull the musicality out of, and he could have been more restrained with the volume... he made his way to the triple forte fairly soon and had nowhere to go. I still very much liked the performance though.
I agree that Yundi Li is a bit fast in the second and third movements, and may also be somewhat cold in his interpretation overall. And Lugansky shows more sensitivity--but he also tends to be a tad on the cautious side. Both are good, but for sheer excitement Li may have the edge.
Very nice and powerful interpretation.
For the lovers of this concerto, I also recommend Elisabeth LEONSKAJA and her mighty interpretation. Check it out
RadawouedSEB 1 month ago
For me the gloomiest and best performance of this concerto ever is by Severin von Eckardstein from Queen Elisabeth Piano Competition 2003. Check it out as well!
LeCourlisCendre 3 months ago
Very nice. Thank you for posting. My favorite recording is Gutierrez!
GeoJDr 3 months ago 2
Yuja's version of the cadenza always leave me with tears in my eyes, this one.. nothing. Something's missing but can't put my finger on what it is.
poll6666 3 months ago
@poll6666 Mmmm... Sound quality? XD
ferromaggie 3 months ago
@poll6666 Check out the Bronfman performance of this cadenza. Electric!
jhoward1957 3 months ago
Is it me or does does this Prokofiev concerto sound less coherent, more confused, as everything is disconnected than the Rachmaninov concerti do?
fikradas 4 months ago
@fikradas Formally... I guess
ferromaggie 4 months ago
@fikradas It's not confused, it's... magmatic.
TheSwordsweeper 4 months ago
@TheSwordsweeper ... No I mean that at some moments I have the feeling that Prokofiev wanted to write more notes than he actually did, so he left some "gaps", and because of the technical difficulty, it seems a real pain to bring out the melody in a good way.
But it sounds great anyway :)
fikradas 4 months ago
Wow! That was a long Cadenza!!!
cuteshox 5 months ago
Why is it that at the ending of the cadenza colossale that the brass always seem to be a little off, and in some cases, pretty badly off? I mean the accented d minor arpeggios should be able to show where the beat is.
adrenalinerush45 6 months ago
Oh my God thanks so much @TheClaux97 ;)
ThesimpleSoldier 6 months ago
@AustinMonster24 always. Ashkenazy is awesome in everything he plays
Abzzzolut 6 months ago
Demons fighting for a new soul at the gates of hell is what this is about. Just mindblowing stuff... The complexity of emotion portrayed in this music is impossible to beat.
stabernz 1 year ago 2
@stabernz Wow! Where did you hear this from? I really would like to read more on this! This music really does have the power to conjure images of hell and its demonic fury! Sublime Prokofiev!
Drunk3nFist 7 months ago
i have found a "movie moment" when at 5:28 the shot passes from the whole orchestra to the pianist's hands. the right hand seems to want to bend the keyboard, then it vanishes to recomparing at 5:37 with grace. cool.
ozoshah 1 year ago
At one point during the cadenza I felt that Lugansky would just rip the piano to shreds! AMAZING
Martel211996 1 year ago 2
He takes apart the arpeggio which many pianists use their right hands into the both hands. 3:47 -
Rational playing.
risktakerdaito 1 year ago
@risktakerdaito oh youre right! that is a good way of doing that. Im trying to learn this at the moment and ive been struggling with that thanks for pointing it out :-)
bagdad4 1 year ago
@bagdad4
Welcome for your comment!!! I think Lugansky is a good pianist. I appreciate his musical talent because he has good technique and score reading skill, too. He always uses his technique for playing the piano beautifully not for showing himself off.
risktakerdaito 1 year ago
Do you practice this piece? It is such a difficult piece, isn't it?
You are also a good pianist and such a hardworker:-)
Good Luck!!
risktakerdaito 1 year ago
The cadenza sounds like a crew of pianists.
demosj 1 year ago 2
Body language and facial expression is TOO neutral. He should act a little if he needs to.
Robotman42 1 year ago
His playing may be a bit more cautious than Berezovksy's but this man is simply a phenomenal pianist! Over the top!
Asgoodasgod 1 year ago
sometimes I hear the melody but sometimes I feel teribble when listening to prokofiev... I don't know why...
chrisb0000 1 year ago
Ashkenazy's version has the best orchestra +sound of all of them.
katchum 1 year ago
nice performance, but the interpretation's definitely not a favorite. some spots could've used a little more technical refinement too
jcasbell 1 year ago
Not enjoying it.
ProkofievRules 2 years ago 2
I dont think this performance measure in musical vigour and passion to that of berezovsky.
bluesyboypete 2 years ago
I wonder if Prokofiev was actually able to play this...
Asgoodasgod 2 years ago
He could
As well as Lugansky I don't think so
COCOONFABULA 2 years ago
@COCOONFABULA I have heard that Prokofiev could play some pieces that he wrote that other people couldn't play
Bachlives2 2 years ago
Really ? Prokofiev said that he couldn't play this properly. He said that the 4th movement was quite hard for him and couldn't play the big chords jumps flawlessly
COCOONFABULA 2 years ago
@COCOONFABULA Prokofiev never write his music thinking if anyone else could play it in mind. Even when commissioned. He was really only concerned if he could play it. He was an absolute Prodigy
Bachlives2 2 years ago
BRAVOOOOOOOONIKOLAY!
kuglagerfeld 2 years ago 2
A litle bit boring no?
What about Gutierrez interpretation?
Deutre08 2 years ago
What do you think of the Yundi Li interpretation of this piece?
MrAsungot 2 years ago
I don't like it at all (excuse my succint englinsh). I don't like Lugansky interpretetion as a reference. Thas why I said what I posted
Deutre08 2 years ago
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quite boring, actually. Berezovsky's version is far better.
bluesyboypete 2 years ago
what about vinnitskayas?
afertyus1000 2 years ago
Even after I've listened a lot of versions this one stayes as my favorite ))
Какое-то в нём есть благородство наполненное в высшей степени драматизмом,приэтом абсолютно целостно и едино. невероятно! Прям до слёз пробирает каждый,каждый раз :)
syuzik712 2 years ago
The new Kissin recording's cadenza is the best I've heard by far. At least for the cadenza.
MrStrav81 2 years ago
In bliss now. Thank you.
CuriouserNCuriouser 2 years ago 2
listen toradze too..
zurzica51 2 years ago
@zurzica51
yeh , he is awesome.......
kempff95 2 years ago
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mistakes!
vincentws03 2 years ago
MY GOD THIS IS AMAZING. THE BEST!!!!!interpretation ive heard i love lugansky!!!perhaps one day ill play as good as he.
perezfrank05 2 years ago 2
This is strange : How can I "answer" someone and have my comment stated as something completely new?
CanisLupusSolitarius 2 years ago
Horatio Gutierrez's version of the solo cadenza ain't bad either.
akkadian4eyes 2 years ago
A Concert piano player is a Piano player with can do this concert.
pianofforte 3 years ago
the fact is simple: it needs to play the arpeggio during the hands crossing part nitid and "a tempo". he does it.
ozoshah 3 years ago
I don't like his playing here, I know he is famous, and that he is very good technically, and what he does is clear, well thought out and well executed, but his playing doesn't move me at all. Its too dry and calculated and lacks the spontaneity and raw passion that is so important.
If you want to listen to a REALLY good performance of this concerto, I would recommend hearing the Ashkenazy/Previn recording or Anna Vinnitskaya's performance from the Queen Elizabeth Competition.
ThomasJBromley 3 years ago
So, this is really a question of taste. For my taste, this music is sooo full of dramatic it self, that when also the pianist extra passion adds, it seems rediculus. I find this almost intellectuell performance a highlight, because of the nature of the music it self, and because of the aesthetic values af our time.
hansmeyer111 3 years ago 2
Anna Vinnitskaya's interpretation was phenomenal wasn't? That has become my favorite.
Hervinbalfour 2 years ago
Also try Ashkenazy's as I feel that his is the 'ultimate' interpretation. :)
Darklord12356 2 years ago
I do like Ashkenazy but if there are two versions which are better. Richters and Bronfman's. I am going to give his interpretation a listen.
Hervinbalfour 2 years ago
I wasn't even aware that Richter played this concerto...must...find it....
Darklord12356 2 years ago
@Darklord12356 Richter never played this concerto. Only the first and fifth.
Yellottwe 1 year ago
Umm, Richter never played this concerto...
ThomasJBromley 2 years ago 12
Actually you are right! Thank you soooo much for the correction. As a kid I had many many "old school" vinyl albums of Richter. I went through my collection and realized that it was the 1st and the 5th that I had recordings of.
Hervinbalfour 2 years ago 2
How can you make statements like 'richter never played this concerto'? I'm sure at some point richter played this somewhere... he must've... he was so close with prokofiev after all... Perhaps you do have research that I do not...
kartoonstew 2 years ago
Well of course Richter may have played through the piece at some stage or other, but as far as i know, like the 3rd concerto it was not part of his repertoire and there are definitely no recordings available of him playing the piece.
ThomasJBromley 2 years ago
Kartoonstew, Richter led a very detailed list of his repertoire and performances. (As another example, we KNOW for sure, that he never performed, publically at least, Rach's 3rd.)
LesterWong2 2 years ago 8
@LesterWong2 He nevered played the 5th of beethoven,and the moonlight sonata either,he sais that too much people played it so he doesn't have toi,he also doesn't like to preforme very famous pieces and never recordes and integral(except bach and shostakovich preludes and fugues^^)for the liste of Richter repertoir:book,the enigma ^^
loboris1995 6 months ago
oh shut up, arguing on words like that, does it matter? Just listen.... the cadenza's amazing
vincentws03 2 years ago
True, the third isn't in Richter's discography. He played with Karel Ancerl a great, thrilling first, though. It's on a CD coupled with two other gems. First, the rendition of the second concerto I love the most. Played by Dagmar Baloghová, Karel Ancerl and the Czech Philharmonic. With a focus on colour, lyricism, interaction between soloist and orchestra, and an excellent sense for climactic development. And second, a witty version of the Classical Symphony.
SamuelFeinberg 2 years ago
If Richter played Prokofiev's second, his playing of the third would seem somewhat unnessecary
CanisLupusSolitarius 2 years ago 2
@ThomasJBromley are you sure?! He was surely capable..
SergeiReiter 1 year ago
@ThomasJBromley not even at home in private???
jcyl141104 11 months ago
@jcyl141104 depends dude...on whether an orchestra could have been accommodated into his house...
satyu131089 10 months ago
@ThomasJBromley I don't know if I'm telling the truth, but Richter never played this concerto because some people have already played it very very good. I repeat, I don't know if I'm good.
AlejandroSanAntonio 4 months ago
@AlejandroSanAntonio He said that about the third Rachmaninov concerto.
BasileusR 2 weeks ago
@BasileusR Ah ok! Thank you! :)
AlejandroSanAntonio 2 weeks ago
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SamuelFeinberg 2 years ago
ashkenazy's is the best
P0L0K0P 2 years ago
I also like Ashkenazy's very much. I highly recommend Vladimir Feltsman's. It's amazing. Very powerful, great sound, articulation, etc.
carlosr86 2 years ago 2
Really? I was debating whether I should watch him play the concerto at Walt Disney Concert Hall...now I'll definitely check it out...:)
Darklord12356 2 years ago
I thought so too when I first heard it at12 (No Pun Intended) , untill I heard some other, younger pianists
CanisLupusSolitarius 2 years ago
The filming is beautiful, and so is the setting - wonder where it was. It's quite a different interpretation - such tenderness & beautiful tone. It's not perfectly architected, but it's still very enjoyable. I suppose Lugansky is a good Chopin player...
brynbstn 3 years ago
BBC Proms at the Royal Albert Hall, I believe, not sure which year
solveaproblem 3 years ago
Masterclass!
pianoplejer 3 years ago
amazing i know the cadenza is a bit stretched, but i love it nonetheless. i listen all the time to this. Russian pro's. It would be interesting to hear Volodos interpretation of this...
hayastanjan 3 years ago
Superb.
The power of russian music.
aznarro 3 years ago
frightening
TheJoyfulPianist 3 years ago
pauroso
irragno 3 years ago
This is a very fine performance - period. The melody is always defined. A demonically difficult thing to do.
jrbcd 3 years ago
Complètement dingue !!! Ce pianiste est vraiment un surhomme !! C'est déconcernant le calme qu'il garde dans cette folie furieuse ! Bravo et respect !!
vassilievboris 3 years ago
AngelinaTaylor, you ignorant fool. When your opinion is factually wrong, then you can't have it. Geeze.
VictorEremitatheBand 3 years ago
Name-calling is uncalled for. Ms. Taylor is entitled to an opinion. In fact, I agree with much of what she says: Lugansky is overly cautious. I've heard countless versions of this concerto and Lugansky's would not be counted among the better ones.
ssprokofiev 3 years ago
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I've heard better interpretations. At some moments it's kind of messy, but on the other hand, some (most) pieces are just ok.
boemserd 4 years ago
It is a pity that those of us who love music are forced to read comments like yours (at least whilst they remain amongst the last comments posted). "Some (most) pieces are just ok"? Give us a break...
memorioso 3 years ago
I didn't like this interpretation at all.. It's dragging most of the cadenza for what I'm used to, and it seems very static. When it's loud it's just loud. There isn't movement. Most times it seems like it's not really going anywhere.
I know he's talanted, but his style is way too different for me :\ (Don't kill me, I'm allowed to have an opinion).
AngelinaTaylor 4 years ago
I agree to a small extent as well. It is a very difficult piece to pull the musicality out of, and he could have been more restrained with the volume... he made his way to the triple forte fairly soon and had nowhere to go. I still very much liked the performance though.
IronBooger57 3 years ago
try the Kun Woo Paik performance, with Naxos!
rodrigopardob 3 years ago
absolutely stunning music
TheJoyfulPianist 4 years ago
wow! that made me shiver..
dropped by this concerto by coincicence and found it to be one of the best pieces I ever heard!
slettis89 4 years ago 2
Lugansky is one of the best, along with Ashkenazy.
IloveAlexisBledel689 4 years ago 3
Beautiful touching: huantingly beautiful.
I must admit that this performance by Lugansky blows Yundi Li's to the dust!
Any one heard Li on his new DG album? The tempo is a bit too fast. Missed out a lot of emotional details.
Toradze is another great performer of this piece, a year later at the Proms.
Cissy97 4 years ago 2
I agree that Yundi Li is a bit fast in the second and third movements, and may also be somewhat cold in his interpretation overall. And Lugansky shows more sensitivity--but he also tends to be a tad on the cautious side. Both are good, but for sheer excitement Li may have the edge.
ssprokofiev 4 years ago
This is amazing! Wow! Bravo! I'm very proud of my coutrymen!
But seriously - his sound production is superb - rare thiese days - powerful but never banging.
befreit1020 4 years ago 4
I agree: his powerful sound is really great.. what a stunning cadenza!
zummingsky 4 years ago 3