Rafale is multirole fighter, sould you buy them, you'll not need another type of plane (recognition, bombing, intelligence, training, air superiority..) It is designed to replace all others, that's why nobody buy it, in french we only use it, other types are retired. Others countries can't do that, they have others places and don't plan to replace all of them. but awesome plane it is !
Hmmm.....now that was very interesting. I never realized that the Rafale had operated off any US carriers - glad to see the 2 countries working together like that.
@bingofioul yes but rafales dont have stealth capabilities and the rafale is a navy fighter and the typhoon is a land based fighter so the f35 would destroy this plane
@Judjefferys rafale has low RCS, not as low as the F35 but it doesn't really matter cause they are both fitted with Active radar, so if the turn on their radar they're easier to lock/shoot. does the F35 has a passive sensor just like the rafale's OSF ?
@Judjefferys faux , le rafale est un avion multirole terre et marine , c'est d'ailleur le seul avion au monde multirole !!! bombardier , chasseur , attaque au sol , reconnaissance , nucléaire , La vitesse n'est pas le point fort du rafale , le mirage 2000 est beaucoup plus rapide , le rafale est un avion d'une souplesse extraordinnaire , les commandes sont faites par fibre optique , 3 systémes séparés , avec redondance , plus un 4eme en cas de panne des 3 premiers , plus des alimentations
@TheLolo51140 multiples , sa maniabilité est tout simplement hors normes , mais surout l'ensemble des capteurs et des contre mesures sont à la pointe de la technologies , je vous rappele que la confrontation entre le rafale et le F22 a terminer à égalité ( red flag ) pourtant , il y a une demi génération entre ces deux avions
The only reason we got the gawd awful things is because we planned to have them. We were told alot of BS and were given this aircraft that we have to now fix. Horay. We have fix the US problem. Have you heard of the F35 Pigeon. Just type it in google: F35 Pigeon.
I dont care how much money has been wasted on it they should just get rid of it. They even offered it to India. How the hell is that thing going to even get behind a Typhoon, Rafale or even Gripen.
@eikkkN and for those who don't believe this, look at the french aircraft carrier size, then look at a class nimits size...it's the same difference between a little airport and an international airport ! some US navy pilot landed their F18 on the Charles de gaules, they must have piss in their pants when they see how little was french deck !
PRESIDENT OF FRANCE VERY excited to SIGN AGREEMENT ALLOWING THE SALE NAME AIR RAFALE 36 fighters.. BRAZIL TO RENEW FOR FAB FAB CONSIST OF CURRENTLY 12 Mirage 2000. And countless of other fighters SPREAD AROUND THE COUNTRY TERRITORY.
..FRANCE GREAT FRIEND!: BRING: SUPREME TECHNOLOGY! WITH SHIPMENT OF EQUIPMENT FOR THE LAST GENERATION BRAZIL: DO NOT SET THE DATE IS STILL VERY NEAR Unfortunately MORE SAYS PARLIAMENT TO BRAZIL! FACT THAT UNTIL THE END OF THIS YEAR: ( COME the Rafale ) shall be painted in the colors of the FAB
There is no point in dignifying any of the posts here; from the ridiculous claims by IKEELYOUNOW, to the obvious fanaticism induced blindness of chenoir. Any pilot worth their salt can acknowledge the superiority of the F-22, all other variables withstanding. Obviously the F-22 is not as cost effective as say the F-15 for certain missions. The F-22 was not built as a cost effective do-it-all plane, to put it simply. It is here to rule the skies with near impunity, ...
@ShooterInfinity which it does irrevocably at full capacity; that is to say, not in the realms of any simulation. The Rafael is a beautiful, cost effective, true multi-role fighter, on the other hand. One which the Typhoon cannot hold a candle to it, and that is unfortunate for the British fanatics. Don't worry, it still is far superior to anything most of the world or any third world country has.
The Rafale is no joke. It gives everyone a hard time in ACM's and BVR practice. Even the Raptor struggles in ACM against this little monster. At least that's what I hear anyway! Strange how sales a lagging.
@bujoun76 LOL are you kidding me, the Raptor has been found to have over a 12 to one kill ratio against the Rafaele. thats going to increase when the smartskin technology comes out sometime between 2013 and 2017. the Raptor wins in every scenario one on one. it has a lower signature, better maneuverability, better speed, and a better payload.
You can't put any missile in the nose, there is absolutely no room for it. And even if "4 missiles" was a joke, it's payload is limited :
4 to 6 medium range missile in the center bay and 1 short range missile in each of the 2 the side bays is not what I call a big payload. And if you add external pylons, then it loses all stealth ability. So no, the F-22 can't take 22 missiles...
@chenoir oh it is, thanks for correcting me on that, i learned this stuff a while back and must have gotten it messed up. and actually, ive never played ace combat or any other flight simulating game in my life. I was sure it was 4 heatseekers though, wonder where i got that. well okay thanks for the correction, il try to read up on this stuff again, though i do know for an absolute fact it had a 12 to 1 kill ratio against the Rafael in simulations pitting the 2 against each other.
I've never heard about any BVR simulation between the F-22 and any other aircraft. Yet I'm keeping myself informed about any news about military aircrafts, so you astonish me a little.
The only thing I know for sure is that on CAC, the F-22 scored 1 kill for 6 draws against the Rafale (and the next day he lost against a Mirage 2000-9, Rafale predecessor. Proof that the pilot is as important than the Aircraft).
Plus, without downgrading the F-22 at all, it's radar stealth, but it's IR signature is very high (the Rafale is very performant about this, without Afterburner the whole aircraft is just a little hotter than the ambiant atmosphere). And the Rafale has some of the bests, if not the best optronics in the world, able to lock, track and identify a target at 100km. So the Rafale is totally able to detect and engage a F-22. (On the other hand, the F-22 don't have any optronics).
@chenoir the F22 is designed to take out enemy aircraft at over 120 MILES, thats about 193 kilometers. almost double the range of the infra red tracking systems.
@chenoir also, i think i know what your talking about, but that is in miles. not kilometers, the US military uses Miles to determine the range of their weapons. around 110 in miles is the maximum range of one of the air air long range missiles they use.
@pakruy AIM-120D have a range of 45 miles,15 miles better than AIM-120C that have a maximum range of 30 miles..but hey,the russians claim there R-77 have a range of 85 miles..LOL..only thing you can hit 85 miles away is a jumbo jet..a missile 85 miles away is low on power n fuel..so the only thing it can hit is a slow-moving target..heres another problem wit russian r-77 range..in order for it to achieve that range..it must be a big-ass missile..NATO r-77 estimate range is 40 miles not 85 miles.
@pakruy where did you get that. the AIM-54 Pheonix has a range of over 115 MILES NOT KILOMETERS MILES. look it up if you dont believe me. The missiels your takling about are the kill range for medium range missiles, the kill range is where its almost impossible to escape from one.
As comparison, the Rafale has 14 hardpoints which can take both air-to-air and air-to-ground armament while the F-22 has to sacrifice 4 Air missile to take only 2 bombs.
Rafale possible payload include : Magic II Short Range missile, Mica Medium Range missile and Meteor Long Range missile, MBDA Apache, Scalp EG and AM39 Exocet cruise missiles, AASM or GBU-12 Paveway II bombs and ASMP-A nuclear cruise missile plus diverse pods and fuel tanks.
@chenoir thats because the F22 is a air superiority fighter, it is designed to do absolutely nothing but knock any enemy aircraft that comes its way out of the sky, which it will do quite easily. even if its a Rafael. The rafael is far superior as a fighter bomber, this is indisputable, but in the air superiority role, the F22 will rip the Rafael apart before the lt even knows its there.
@BruteCommando Actually, nothing is selling too well after the Cold War, the exceptions being F-16 (cheap) & Su-27 (will sell to any tin pot dictator).
@cryteeek Rafale is a comparable plane to both the EF and the Gripen. It's a far better strike plane than either. The EF has a slight edge on it in the air superiority role. Rafale is better at both vs. the Gripen and is about equal in dogfighting.
Hmm , in exercises the EF lost 7-1 against the Rafale in Air/Air combat.
As for the air/ground capability, the EF is unable to do it naturally, RAF had to develop it's own ground attack system for the EF (means that there are compatibility problems), and Spain and Italy are developing their.
And the EF is unable to carry weapons on the same pylon (unlike Rafale), so to carry 6 bombs it has to sacrify 4 other armament+ it's fuel tanks, reducing it's operationnal range.
Because having 6 weapons on 6 different pylons generate more drag and weight more than 3*2 weapons on 2 pylons (logical).
So the fact is the EF is basically unable to attack on the ground, it has to be upgraded manually, at a very expensive cost. If you add the fact that one hour of flight on the EF2000 cost 74000 euros (when the same on Rafale cost 29000 euros without the weapons, 39000 weapons comprises) and the Rafale is fully operationnal in all kind of combat...
@chenoir That's a very interesting piece of information. But, why is it that Rafale is still very expensive to operate? I've heard that it's because of this expense that the Armee de l'Air still relies most heavily on the older Mirage 2000 and the Aeronavale relies on the considerably older Super Etendard for strike missions. This seems odd to me, as the Rafale appears to have been built with operational cost containment in mind. Can you shed some light on this issue?
@bwana31 this issue is simply wrong, the french navy uses the good old SEM (modernised super etandart) as all the navy pilot are not qualified on rafale yet, and moreover french government spend millions to modernise those jet, so now we have to use it ! there is simply no common thing between the maintenance of a rafale and that of a Mirage 2000, for example the engine of the rafale can be replaced in 1 hour.
The rafale is fitted with a self diagnostic program which allows less maintenance
USA take a dumping with her F18 (a exellent aircraft, but older generation)...it's for the states more easy to produce a lower priced F/a 18 but they product, only for the USA, ~ 1500 F18 (all generation)!
Concrete, at debut, France was in the eurofighter group, the french navy at this times plan to buy FA18 to replace her old F8 Crusaders.
But the government say: got the jobs here and built the Rafale: "whe have all the technology to take this alone= bye bye EuroFighter..."
@oiseautempete not exactly, french government needed a carrier able aircraft, the uk didn't, moreover the french air force needed a nuclear strike capable aircraft, and some other difference between the UK project...that's why they made their own aircraft. But when UK and France worked on an aircraft the result was AMASING ! for exemple look at the JAGUAR ! i hope it will work for the futur UCAV program...
Yes your are right, but i have not enough place to explain more...
The Jaguar was a good air to ground aircraft, but undermotorised (tested from the french navy on carrier, but was not successfull at security tests (touch and go with only one engine) .
The best success in UK/France cooperation was the Concorde: this incredible advanced aircraft make ridiculous all other comparable projects
@oiseautempete yep ! tu preches un convertis, mon grand pere etait responsable de tracage sur le concorde, et des anecdotes sur les projets russes et americains (les uns copiant allegrement le concorde les autres voulant faire du mach 3+ sans se préocuper du refroidissement de la strucure etc..) le font toujours rire en 2011, et j'aimerais rajouté que cet oiseau n'a pas été fait avec les supercalculateurs et outillage moderne !!!
@psykotik27 bonjour oui il decole du CDG mais des avion comme le F 18 ou leF 14 ne pourrait pas atterires sur le CDG le pont est plus petit le CDG doit faire 260 metres un porte avions classe nimitz fait 330 metres voila ...
La longueur du batiment n'a rien a voir. Le CDG peut recevoir des F18 à l'appontage et l'a déjà fait. Les avions sont stoppés par des brins d'arrêts (cables) tendus sur le pont et qui les freinent. Ces brins sont adaptés au poids de l'avions qui se présente. Le F18 pèse entre 12 et 23.4 tonnes selon les configurations. Le Hawkeye E2 qui fait parti du groupe aéronaval du CDG et se pose chaque jour sur son pont pèse 23.3 tonnes.
@Vistry13 Les brins d'arrêts sont concues pour supporter une charge plus importante que l'avion le plus lourds qu'il doivent stopper (en cas de gros temps ou de problèmes). Donc si le E2 se pose sur le CDG alors le F18 en charge moyenne ( environs 17 tonnes avec armement en moyenne ) peut se poser, même si c 'est vrai que les pilotes américains ont l'impression qu'il vont tomber à l'eau car le CDG est plus court que les nimitz.
Il suffit de taper F18 Charles de Gaulle sur youtube et tu tombes sur la video de Frukus 06 ou on voit un F18 apponter sur le CDG. ( la première sur la liste)
A 2.52 on voit un F18 apponter sur le PA francais.
@Vistry13 merci je s est tout sa mais s est plus " une facon de parler" certain pilote US avait emis des doute a l epoque et pourles E2 il y avait eu une MODIF pour qu il puisse si posser je voit que tu connait bien le sujet !!! amicalement davZX7R
Also Obama is killing off NASA and any future replacement for the shuttles. Astronauts will be hitchhikers aboard Russian Soyuz He already killed off the F-22 Raptor. Eventually he'll decommission and scrap most of the Navy's ships including aircraft carriers and submarines. He's unilaterally scraping the MX and Minute Man missiles.
But Obama is NOT a Marxist. He only plays one in the White House and on TV.
@The6000Sabre Obama has increased defense spending overall, approving any Pentagon + DoD requests to budget for warfighting, he stopped funding on a manned space vehicle to save funding for the ISS. In two wars, NASA is not a priority on the budget, for any president. Reagan wanted to also scrap 1/3 of our nuclear arsenal. (It is ultimately unnecessary as we have enough nuclear warheads on our own to end the world many times over, after the reduction) You should really research these things.
@jdan007 NASA is one of the greatest R&D institutions of all time. Many products and improvements came from the space program.
Nuclear arms prevented WWIII. As neither superpower would risk it's devastation.
Reagan wanted bilateral nuke reductions between US/ USSR, along with missile defense SDI (not star wars).
BO wants unilateral US nuke reductions at a time when Russia, China, N.Korea and Iran are building up nuclear arms. BO also wants Israel to disarm in the face of Iran's build up.
@The6000Sabre Russia also faces nuclear reductions, it is a bilateral reduction. No one, Barry, nor anyone in his administration has called for Israel to reduce its armed forces or nuclear arsenal. It is great to have an opinion, but it is better to read these treaties and international dialogue to understand the facts first. NASA's budget is limited (Congress cut it several times, including in 2005). Again, the choice was a manned vehicle or extending our ISS participation, we chose the ISS.
@jdan007 Russia has no intentions of giving up any more nuclear weapons. China defiantly doesn't want to reduce arms. And I think we all know where N. Korea and Iran stand on the issue.
BO wanted Israel to disarm. And that's exactly why Netanyahu boycotted BO's nuclear summit.
NASA's budget is limited? All budgets have limits! NASA's just got a lot smaller as Constellation was terminated by BO. Because most blacks see space as a white man's next colonization project. And Obama hates whites.
I agree. This shows how stupid the cunt is. Earth will be no more one day and the only way the human race will survive is if we move out into space. Space exploration is just as important (if not more so) than this fake global warming joke.
Whilst we spend our money on weapons, thowing it down the frain in Africa etc ...time is ticking....
@The6000Sabre 30% reduction on both sides over the next seven years. (As reported by WSJ, BBC, CBC, Bloomberg, NBC, CNN...)
Peace through capitulation, which is why we have expanded the defense budget to its largest since WWII, under Barry. Perhaps you are evidence Barry should actually be spending less on defense, and more on primary education.
The reason why I dislike the guy is simple. We are giving our blood in Afghanistan alongside the Americans and the truth is they need us there but we are happy to help. Rather than support us in the Faklands he has refused to do this and is going around the world kissing the asses of the likes of China/Russia. As it stands...UK is being pushed towards the EU and we don't see Obama as an ally.
You do realize there's oil down thier dufuss? What I was saying (so idiots like you can understand) is that the UK helped US in Afghanistan and Iraq. Now Obama won't acknowledge our right to the Falklandss. Clinton admitted there was fuck all she could do though lol. When you guys pick up the guts and win a war on your own then come back haha.
Haha I know you Yanks don't get allot of outside media but the net is around so there's no excuse. Today it was officially confirmed by BP that a substantial amount of oil is there...around 60,000,000,000 barrels worth. Do you really think we would of sent our men to die over a bare island in 1982? :) This si why there will be another war soon. Yes...we use Gurkhas...the fiercest warriors on earth but they are apart of the Brit army and are amazingly loyal to the crown.
Yes, we fought and won in 1982 so I think we deserve it a little bit more than USA deserve Iraq's oil...well...especially when you take into consideration that the people who live on those Islands are actually British :)
lol typical American hypocrite I see. Your claiming oil in Iraq/trying to build a pipeline in Afghanistan yet the Falkland islands are populated by British people? Can't you see the difference here? Being American, I would think carefully before critisizing others :)
@29Gixxer LoL. You're probably right about that:-) The 'PC' brigade in British government will probably let them have the country (UK) too, to compensate them for 'hurt feelings' during '82:-)
Thing is, BP is largely American owned, so most of the oil will probably go to the US!
Ps. Love the 'Hitler reacts to England v Germany' skits on your channel. Hilarious:-))
@kidynamite58 Are you really that stupid? Pretty soon the good will you take for granted is going to run out and then you will have to invade other countries all on your own and we all know you don't like doing that.I'm sure an opportunity will present itself to reciprocate though.
while he is black, he actually is about as pro-market as a human can possibly be. Health Care Bill was radically modified to favor the insurance industry (ultimately the bill is basically written by insurance indy lobbyists) + the bailout, was requested by free-market firms.. I suggest you go read some Marx if you think Barry Obama is at all Marxist.
@jdan007 What you say is a canard [Rafale has canards, too] The Health bill was produced in the Senate. Obama preferred the House version, which was blocked. That legislation had the Public Option which was to undermine insurance companies. Who cares about constitutionality?
So Then Obama took over GM and Chrysler and pulled the rug out from under their stockholders. Was that market orientated? Then he took the student loan business away from the banks. A free market move, also? I suppose?
GM required government assistance to remain solvent and avoid bankruptcy, GM's exec's (elected by the board of directors) requested federal intervention. Banks still offer student loans in the U.S. The health bill that passed Was altered by the insurance lobby, changes which Barry, not a Marxist, would have approved (and did in this case). PS. "He uses sedition" not "seditiousness" which is not a word.
@jdan007 GM asked the Bush White House for loan assistance. When BO became pres. he took control of GM, fired it's CEO and made GM a government entity.
Banks are NO LONGER ALLOWED to make Gov. Guaranteed Student Loans. One can apply for a personal loan and use it for college. However, one needs collateral, a cosigner and the interest rate is higher. GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS. BO took over student loans, its part of the Health Care Act
@The6000Sabre It is neither spelling nor grammar, it is a word that does not exist in the English language.
First, GM is a privately held entity. Second, you always needed a co-signer under a certain age for fed. backed student loans. Now, it does not mean private loans are removed, it means, the government will no longer back private loans if they turn into bad debts, that is Marxist?
You know you lost the argument when you type in ALLCAPS. Consider more formal education, less Google.
@jdan007 GM was never privately held. GM began as a holding company for Buick and Cadillac. Later Olds, then Chevrolet under William Durant. Oakland joined in the 20's and became Pontiac in the 30's. Today GM is owned 70% by US Gov.
The gov. was the "co-signer" of gov. backed student loans. Now government loans the money directly as per ObamaCare.
@jdan007 ALL CAPS is for idiots such as you who cant understand facts.
English language is a living language. and the sufix "ness" is an adjective form of the noun. As I have listened enough to your foolishness. Seditiousness is one who engages in sedition. If not a word than I just DEEMED it one.
Schools do not educate, but simply indoctrinate. One is responsible for educating oneself.
F-18E/F with APG-79 + AN/ALQ-214 + SLAM-ER or JSOW + AIM120Cs + AIM9X all on the same mission + Upcoming IRIST. May not be able to hold energy as well in a dogfight, but that depends heavily on the loadout of either aircraft when they get to the merge. Fact?
Lastly, Barry would not have received DNC nomination and become president as a "Marxist," the majority of the money both the RNC and DNC receive come from corporate special interests. If you have been to college, please, consider a graduate program. If you have not attended college, please, attend college. At a minimum, please, enroll in a public finance course or civics course at your local junior college.
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AMERICANS BELIEVE EVERYTHING CONETRE BUT IN FACT THEY HAVE DONE THAT STEAL THE GERMAN TECHNOLOGY UBoot (submarine) V2 (rocket) V1 (missile) JET ENGINE FOR ANY WAY THEY ARE STEALING QUA CA (OIL) is to rewrite your 's story because they did not seem aware BAND OF VICTIM
Les 2 rafales qui se sont téléscopés le 25 /09/09en rejoignant le porte-avion Charles de Gaulle au large de Perpignan ,il n'y en a qu'un de vivant ,celui qui c'est éjecté ;L'autre il est dans le fond du bleu pour toujours
Il crollo del 2 Rafales nella mediterranea off Perpignan il 24 settembre 2009 dopo una collisione in volo, giunge in un momento delicato per il Brasile-Francia negoziati
In April 2009, news reports stated the Dassault Rafale has been disqualified from the competition for not meeting minimum performance requirements of the Indian Air Force
the problem is that rafale is not a good airplane. 38 are crashed and the last 2 airplane were crashed some days ago. take a look at google france.
No one want it. French aren't able to find one that want it.
The price is too hight, the fly cost is 4 times hight and the manutention 2 times highet than other. French want sell it with old avionic system to pay the new projects for the french national airplanes
Yes thats true, but the french seem to be the only still using it. The thing does sit in your field of view. With aircrafts being spotted at around 10miles visually at day, they are small dots and could be obstructed by the probe.
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unclest1nky 4 days ago
Rafale is multirole fighter, sould you buy them, you'll not need another type of plane (recognition, bombing, intelligence, training, air superiority..) It is designed to replace all others, that's why nobody buy it, in french we only use it, other types are retired. Others countries can't do that, they have others places and don't plan to replace all of them. but awesome plane it is !
guanglier 1 month ago
Le porte-avions US est tellement grand que le pilote aurait pu atterir en créneau et faire un dérapage mdr.
Tunechi241 2 months ago 5
@Tunechi241 c'est clair sa leur parait de la rigolade
saintclair31 1 month ago
Hmmm.....now that was very interesting. I never realized that the Rafale had operated off any US carriers - glad to see the 2 countries working together like that.
GNomad781 5 months ago
Hope my country(U.K.) see sense and buy it!
xfire7 6 months ago
@xfire7 we dont need it we've got the eurofighter
Judjefferys 5 months ago
@Judjefferys did you ever seen a Typhoon lauch from a carrier ? LMFAO !
bingofioul 2 months ago
@bingofioul yeah we're getting the f35 which is better
Judjefferys 2 months ago
@Judjefferys netherland technical choice was F35 Win vs rafale for...0.2 point....not far away better...and still not operational....
bingofioul 2 months ago
@bingofioul yes but rafales dont have stealth capabilities and the rafale is a navy fighter and the typhoon is a land based fighter so the f35 would destroy this plane
Judjefferys 2 months ago
@Judjefferys rafale has low RCS, not as low as the F35 but it doesn't really matter cause they are both fitted with Active radar, so if the turn on their radar they're easier to lock/shoot. does the F35 has a passive sensor just like the rafale's OSF ?
bingofioul 2 months ago
@Judjefferys faux , le rafale est un avion multirole terre et marine , c'est d'ailleur le seul avion au monde multirole !!! bombardier , chasseur , attaque au sol , reconnaissance , nucléaire , La vitesse n'est pas le point fort du rafale , le mirage 2000 est beaucoup plus rapide , le rafale est un avion d'une souplesse extraordinnaire , les commandes sont faites par fibre optique , 3 systémes séparés , avec redondance , plus un 4eme en cas de panne des 3 premiers , plus des alimentations
TheLolo51140 2 months ago
@TheLolo51140 multiples , sa maniabilité est tout simplement hors normes , mais surout l'ensemble des capteurs et des contre mesures sont à la pointe de la technologies , je vous rappele que la confrontation entre le rafale et le F22 a terminer à égalité ( red flag ) pourtant , il y a une demi génération entre ces deux avions
TheLolo51140 2 months ago
@Judjefferys Rafale has a land based and a navy version
Tunechi241 2 months ago
@Judjefferys
Actually the RAF dont actually like F35 thats why we are looking for other options. (That dont need funding from us)
G777GUN 2 months ago
@G777GUN are we really thats why they've ordered them and where did you get that total bullshit from
Judjefferys 2 months ago
@Judjefferys
The only reason we got the gawd awful things is because we planned to have them. We were told alot of BS and were given this aircraft that we have to now fix. Horay. We have fix the US problem. Have you heard of the F35 Pigeon. Just type it in google: F35 Pigeon.
I dont care how much money has been wasted on it they should just get rid of it. They even offered it to India. How the hell is that thing going to even get behind a Typhoon, Rafale or even Gripen.
G777GUN 2 months ago
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edgar0001 6 months ago
hope to see rafale winning against eurofighter India!
garudcommando 6 months ago
This is the real eurofighter. Incredible aircraft.
Matija881 8 months ago
The first Rafale had fail his deck-landing or just passed?!?
VietnamAirForce 8 months ago
@VietnamAirForce reco, touch and go, landing.
eikkkN 8 months ago
@eikkkN Oh I see. I was scary. Fail a deck-landing is not very cool for a pilot's Rafale M.
VietnamAirForce 8 months ago
@eikkkN and for those who don't believe this, look at the french aircraft carrier size, then look at a class nimits size...it's the same difference between a little airport and an international airport ! some US navy pilot landed their F18 on the Charles de gaules, they must have piss in their pants when they see how little was french deck !
bingofioul 7 months ago
@bingofioul and ?
eikkkN 7 months ago
PRESIDENT OF FRANCE VERY excited to SIGN AGREEMENT ALLOWING THE SALE NAME AIR RAFALE 36 fighters.. BRAZIL TO RENEW FOR FAB FAB CONSIST OF CURRENTLY 12 Mirage 2000. And countless of other fighters SPREAD AROUND THE COUNTRY TERRITORY.
fabriciobrisola1 8 months ago
..FRANCE GREAT FRIEND!: BRING: SUPREME TECHNOLOGY! WITH SHIPMENT OF EQUIPMENT FOR THE LAST GENERATION BRAZIL: DO NOT SET THE DATE IS STILL VERY NEAR Unfortunately MORE SAYS PARLIAMENT TO BRAZIL! FACT THAT UNTIL THE END OF THIS YEAR: ( COME the Rafale ) shall be painted in the colors of the FAB
fabriciobrisola1 8 months ago 2
how is called this music
MsGroscul 9 months ago
it would be great to see more American planes on the CDG and Rafale on the U.S. aircraft carrier
sahuc33 9 months ago 9
MAGNIFICENT LANDING !! Seriously !!! First time in Enterprise, land like home! Great French pilots!
DiamZz 10 months ago 8
There is no point in dignifying any of the posts here; from the ridiculous claims by IKEELYOUNOW, to the obvious fanaticism induced blindness of chenoir. Any pilot worth their salt can acknowledge the superiority of the F-22, all other variables withstanding. Obviously the F-22 is not as cost effective as say the F-15 for certain missions. The F-22 was not built as a cost effective do-it-all plane, to put it simply. It is here to rule the skies with near impunity, ...
ShooterInfinity 10 months ago
@ShooterInfinity which it does irrevocably at full capacity; that is to say, not in the realms of any simulation. The Rafael is a beautiful, cost effective, true multi-role fighter, on the other hand. One which the Typhoon cannot hold a candle to it, and that is unfortunate for the British fanatics. Don't worry, it still is far superior to anything most of the world or any third world country has.
ShooterInfinity 10 months ago
french pilote are the best pilote of world guys
tikoir 10 months ago 2
The Rafale is no joke. It gives everyone a hard time in ACM's and BVR practice. Even the Raptor struggles in ACM against this little monster. At least that's what I hear anyway! Strange how sales a lagging.
bujoun76 10 months ago
@bujoun76 LOL are you kidding me, the Raptor has been found to have over a 12 to one kill ratio against the Rafaele. thats going to increase when the smartskin technology comes out sometime between 2013 and 2017. the Raptor wins in every scenario one on one. it has a lower signature, better maneuverability, better speed, and a better payload.
IKEELYOUNOW 10 months ago
@IKEELYOUNOW
Better Payload? 4 missiles in inner ramps, that's what you call a better payload?
chenoir 10 months ago
@chenoir lol no, it has 4 heatseaking missiles in the nose alone, it has 12 AMRAAMS and 6 medium range missiles also spread throughout the body.
IKEELYOUNOW 10 months ago
@IKEELYOUNOW
You know Ace Combat isn't the reality?
You can't put any missile in the nose, there is absolutely no room for it. And even if "4 missiles" was a joke, it's payload is limited :
4 to 6 medium range missile in the center bay and 1 short range missile in each of the 2 the side bays is not what I call a big payload. And if you add external pylons, then it loses all stealth ability. So no, the F-22 can't take 22 missiles...
Ah, and the Amraam IS a medium range missile.
chenoir 10 months ago
@chenoir oh it is, thanks for correcting me on that, i learned this stuff a while back and must have gotten it messed up. and actually, ive never played ace combat or any other flight simulating game in my life. I was sure it was 4 heatseekers though, wonder where i got that. well okay thanks for the correction, il try to read up on this stuff again, though i do know for an absolute fact it had a 12 to 1 kill ratio against the Rafael in simulations pitting the 2 against each other.
IKEELYOUNOW 10 months ago
@IKEELYOUNOW
I've never heard about any BVR simulation between the F-22 and any other aircraft. Yet I'm keeping myself informed about any news about military aircrafts, so you astonish me a little.
The only thing I know for sure is that on CAC, the F-22 scored 1 kill for 6 draws against the Rafale (and the next day he lost against a Mirage 2000-9, Rafale predecessor. Proof that the pilot is as important than the Aircraft).
chenoir 10 months ago
@IKEELYOUNOW
Plus, without downgrading the F-22 at all, it's radar stealth, but it's IR signature is very high (the Rafale is very performant about this, without Afterburner the whole aircraft is just a little hotter than the ambiant atmosphere). And the Rafale has some of the bests, if not the best optronics in the world, able to lock, track and identify a target at 100km. So the Rafale is totally able to detect and engage a F-22. (On the other hand, the F-22 don't have any optronics).
chenoir 10 months ago 2
@chenoir the F22 is designed to take out enemy aircraft at over 120 MILES, thats about 193 kilometers. almost double the range of the infra red tracking systems.
IKEELYOUNOW 10 months ago
@IKEELYOUNOW
To engage target at more than 190 km, except that the Amraam range is 110 km maximum.
chenoir 10 months ago
@chenoir didnt you just say the AMRAAM is a MEDIUM range air to air missile?
IKEELYOUNOW 10 months ago
@chenoir also, i think i know what your talking about, but that is in miles. not kilometers, the US military uses Miles to determine the range of their weapons. around 110 in miles is the maximum range of one of the air air long range missiles they use.
IKEELYOUNOW 10 months ago
@IKEELYOUNOW
Yah, but tell me what other missiles are currently available for american fighters?
And I know about miles, since I confirm it's 110km and not 110 miles.
chenoir 10 months ago
@IKEELYOUNOW air to air missiles dont go farther than 40 miles.
pakruy 10 months ago
@pakruy AIM-120D have a range of 45 miles,15 miles better than AIM-120C that have a maximum range of 30 miles..but hey,the russians claim there R-77 have a range of 85 miles..LOL..only thing you can hit 85 miles away is a jumbo jet..a missile 85 miles away is low on power n fuel..so the only thing it can hit is a slow-moving target..heres another problem wit russian r-77 range..in order for it to achieve that range..it must be a big-ass missile..NATO r-77 estimate range is 40 miles not 85 miles.
fmoa 10 months ago
@fmoa The only misile that goes farther than 60 miles is the new meteor.
pakruy 10 months ago
@fmoa The only misile that goes farther than 60 miles is the new meteor. But it is not in production yet.
pakruy 10 months ago
@fmoa More deadly than the AIM-120C ~or~ AIM-120D, a Frenchie at such close proximity may fart in your general direction ...!!
l2eeaalityy 9 months ago
@pakruy where did you get that. the AIM-54 Pheonix has a range of over 115 MILES NOT KILOMETERS MILES. look it up if you dont believe me. The missiels your takling about are the kill range for medium range missiles, the kill range is where its almost impossible to escape from one.
IKEELYOUNOW 10 months ago
@IKEELYOUNOW Nope, the Phoenix missile has been retired.
Robbob9933 9 months ago
@IKEELYOUNOW
As comparison, the Rafale has 14 hardpoints which can take both air-to-air and air-to-ground armament while the F-22 has to sacrifice 4 Air missile to take only 2 bombs.
Rafale possible payload include : Magic II Short Range missile, Mica Medium Range missile and Meteor Long Range missile, MBDA Apache, Scalp EG and AM39 Exocet cruise missiles, AASM or GBU-12 Paveway II bombs and ASMP-A nuclear cruise missile plus diverse pods and fuel tanks.
chenoir 10 months ago
@chenoir thats because the F22 is a air superiority fighter, it is designed to do absolutely nothing but knock any enemy aircraft that comes its way out of the sky, which it will do quite easily. even if its a Rafael. The rafael is far superior as a fighter bomber, this is indisputable, but in the air superiority role, the F22 will rip the Rafael apart before the lt even knows its there.
IKEELYOUNOW 10 months ago
are the US CVN carrying nuke,like french cvn do ?
bingofioul 11 months ago
i bet the americans ripped the hell out of the pilot for missing the lines, i know they do the same to their own.
stephenpprice 1 year ago
@stephenpprice
The pilot did not miss the line. first was a deck reco, second a touch&go, and the third was the landing.
WarWolfs 1 year ago 41
@WarWolfs Correct, hook not down = no attempt to land.
Robbob9933 9 months ago
Rafale is an awesome aircraft such a shame no one is buying them WTF
BruteCommando 1 year ago 30
@BruteCommando Actually, nothing is selling too well after the Cold War, the exceptions being F-16 (cheap) & Su-27 (will sell to any tin pot dictator).
milvipes 1 year ago 5
@BruteCommando They are shit compared to EF and Gripen
cryteeek 9 months ago
@cryteeek Rafale is a comparable plane to both the EF and the Gripen. It's a far better strike plane than either. The EF has a slight edge on it in the air superiority role. Rafale is better at both vs. the Gripen and is about equal in dogfighting.
bwana31 9 months ago
@bwana31 Yeah whatever, anyways they are 3 of the best planes in the world (;
cryteeek 9 months ago
@bwana31
Hmm , in exercises the EF lost 7-1 against the Rafale in Air/Air combat.
As for the air/ground capability, the EF is unable to do it naturally, RAF had to develop it's own ground attack system for the EF (means that there are compatibility problems), and Spain and Italy are developing their.
And the EF is unable to carry weapons on the same pylon (unlike Rafale), so to carry 6 bombs it has to sacrify 4 other armament+ it's fuel tanks, reducing it's operationnal range.
chenoir 8 months ago
@bwana31
Because having 6 weapons on 6 different pylons generate more drag and weight more than 3*2 weapons on 2 pylons (logical).
So the fact is the EF is basically unable to attack on the ground, it has to be upgraded manually, at a very expensive cost. If you add the fact that one hour of flight on the EF2000 cost 74000 euros (when the same on Rafale cost 29000 euros without the weapons, 39000 weapons comprises) and the Rafale is fully operationnal in all kind of combat...
chenoir 8 months ago
@chenoir That's a very interesting piece of information. But, why is it that Rafale is still very expensive to operate? I've heard that it's because of this expense that the Armee de l'Air still relies most heavily on the older Mirage 2000 and the Aeronavale relies on the considerably older Super Etendard for strike missions. This seems odd to me, as the Rafale appears to have been built with operational cost containment in mind. Can you shed some light on this issue?
bwana31 8 months ago
@bwana31 this issue is simply wrong, the french navy uses the good old SEM (modernised super etandart) as all the navy pilot are not qualified on rafale yet, and moreover french government spend millions to modernise those jet, so now we have to use it ! there is simply no common thing between the maintenance of a rafale and that of a Mirage 2000, for example the engine of the rafale can be replaced in 1 hour.
The rafale is fitted with a self diagnostic program which allows less maintenance
bingofioul 7 months ago
@BruteCommando Well, the French really can't force anyone to can they? Not until the USA completely collapses...in about 3 months
hamace 8 months ago
@BruteCommando
USA take a dumping with her F18 (a exellent aircraft, but older generation)...it's for the states more easy to produce a lower priced F/a 18 but they product, only for the USA, ~ 1500 F18 (all generation)!
Concrete, at debut, France was in the eurofighter group, the french navy at this times plan to buy FA18 to replace her old F8 Crusaders.
But the government say: got the jobs here and built the Rafale: "whe have all the technology to take this alone= bye bye EuroFighter..."
oiseautempete 8 months ago
@oiseautempete not exactly, french government needed a carrier able aircraft, the uk didn't, moreover the french air force needed a nuclear strike capable aircraft, and some other difference between the UK project...that's why they made their own aircraft. But when UK and France worked on an aircraft the result was AMASING ! for exemple look at the JAGUAR ! i hope it will work for the futur UCAV program...
bingofioul 7 months ago
@bingofioul
Yes your are right, but i have not enough place to explain more...
The Jaguar was a good air to ground aircraft, but undermotorised (tested from the french navy on carrier, but was not successfull at security tests (touch and go with only one engine) .
The best success in UK/France cooperation was the Concorde: this incredible advanced aircraft make ridiculous all other comparable projects
oiseautempete 7 months ago
@oiseautempete yep ! tu preches un convertis, mon grand pere etait responsable de tracage sur le concorde, et des anecdotes sur les projets russes et americains (les uns copiant allegrement le concorde les autres voulant faire du mach 3+ sans se préocuper du refroidissement de la strucure etc..) le font toujours rire en 2011, et j'aimerais rajouté que cet oiseau n'a pas été fait avec les supercalculateurs et outillage moderne !!!
bingofioul 7 months ago
@BruteCommando people buy planes to make combats, not for there looks =)
MsCasper2010 7 months ago
@BruteCommando the only issue with Rafals is the price and the €/$ exchange ratio
InitialDAmine 1 month ago
As long as there NATO doesnt matter where allies we share tech so either way.Nice to see allies training with us.
1bearcatf8f 1 year ago
Amazing, thanks for the video!
MadUek1 1 year ago
The Frenchie farted in their general direction... ... ...
l3attlel2oyal 1 year ago
@l3attlel2oyal lol no! only on brits :)
daftever 1 year ago
@l3attlel2oyal
Hahaha yeah, their fathers smelt like elder berries
kornofulgur 1 year ago
Bravo le Rafale ! superbe oiseau métallique !!
dat8r1 1 year ago 3
au moin il on de la place pour decoler et atterrir sur un porte avion AMERICAIN !!!
davzx7r 1 year ago
@davzx7r
-.-
94rainbowx33 1 year ago
@davzx7r
Gnéé parce que sur le De Gaulle c'est impossible ?
psykotik27 1 year ago
@psykotik27 bonjour pour un RAFALE oui pour un tomcat ou unF18 hornet s est +dur
davzx7r 1 year ago
@davzx7r ^^ Bonsoir. Euh pourtant il me semble que des Rafale décollent du CDG ?!
psykotik27 1 year ago
@psykotik27 bonjour oui il decole du CDG mais des avion comme le F 18 ou leF 14 ne pourrait pas atterires sur le CDG le pont est plus petit le CDG doit faire 260 metres un porte avions classe nimitz fait 330 metres voila ...
davzx7r 1 year ago
@davzx7r
Merci de la précision ^^
psykotik27 1 year ago
La longueur du batiment n'a rien a voir. Le CDG peut recevoir des F18 à l'appontage et l'a déjà fait. Les avions sont stoppés par des brins d'arrêts (cables) tendus sur le pont et qui les freinent. Ces brins sont adaptés au poids de l'avions qui se présente. Le F18 pèse entre 12 et 23.4 tonnes selon les configurations. Le Hawkeye E2 qui fait parti du groupe aéronaval du CDG et se pose chaque jour sur son pont pèse 23.3 tonnes.
Vistry13 1 year ago
@Vistry13 Les brins d'arrêts sont concues pour supporter une charge plus importante que l'avion le plus lourds qu'il doivent stopper (en cas de gros temps ou de problèmes). Donc si le E2 se pose sur le CDG alors le F18 en charge moyenne ( environs 17 tonnes avec armement en moyenne ) peut se poser, même si c 'est vrai que les pilotes américains ont l'impression qu'il vont tomber à l'eau car le CDG est plus court que les nimitz.
Vistry13 1 year ago
Il suffit de taper F18 Charles de Gaulle sur youtube et tu tombes sur la video de Frukus 06 ou on voit un F18 apponter sur le CDG. ( la première sur la liste)
A 2.52 on voit un F18 apponter sur le PA francais.
Vistry13 1 year ago
@Vistry13 merci je s est tout sa mais s est plus " une facon de parler" certain pilote US avait emis des doute a l epoque et pourles E2 il y avait eu une MODIF pour qu il puisse si posser je voit que tu connait bien le sujet !!! amicalement davZX7R
davzx7r 1 year ago
It's pretty neat that they can land on eachother's ships. Carrier operations always amaze me.
And why is it that the comments for videos like these always have to turn into some nationalist pissing contest?
Squiffy444 1 year ago 4
Also Obama is killing off NASA and any future replacement for the shuttles. Astronauts will be hitchhikers aboard Russian Soyuz He already killed off the F-22 Raptor. Eventually he'll decommission and scrap most of the Navy's ships including aircraft carriers and submarines. He's unilaterally scraping the MX and Minute Man missiles.
But Obama is NOT a Marxist. He only plays one in the White House and on TV.
The6000Sabre 1 year ago
@The6000Sabre Obama has increased defense spending overall, approving any Pentagon + DoD requests to budget for warfighting, he stopped funding on a manned space vehicle to save funding for the ISS. In two wars, NASA is not a priority on the budget, for any president. Reagan wanted to also scrap 1/3 of our nuclear arsenal. (It is ultimately unnecessary as we have enough nuclear warheads on our own to end the world many times over, after the reduction) You should really research these things.
jdan007 1 year ago
@jdan007 NASA is one of the greatest R&D institutions of all time. Many products and improvements came from the space program.
Nuclear arms prevented WWIII. As neither superpower would risk it's devastation.
Reagan wanted bilateral nuke reductions between US/ USSR, along with missile defense SDI (not star wars).
BO wants unilateral US nuke reductions at a time when Russia, China, N.Korea and Iran are building up nuclear arms. BO also wants Israel to disarm in the face of Iran's build up.
The6000Sabre 1 year ago
@The6000Sabre Russia also faces nuclear reductions, it is a bilateral reduction. No one, Barry, nor anyone in his administration has called for Israel to reduce its armed forces or nuclear arsenal. It is great to have an opinion, but it is better to read these treaties and international dialogue to understand the facts first. NASA's budget is limited (Congress cut it several times, including in 2005). Again, the choice was a manned vehicle or extending our ISS participation, we chose the ISS.
jdan007 1 year ago
@jdan007 More for you the Obama lover: watch?v=08BAfKCfu74&feature=related
The6000Sabre 1 year ago
@jdan007 Russia has no intentions of giving up any more nuclear weapons. China defiantly doesn't want to reduce arms. And I think we all know where N. Korea and Iran stand on the issue.
BO wanted Israel to disarm. And that's exactly why Netanyahu boycotted BO's nuclear summit.
NASA's budget is limited? All budgets have limits! NASA's just got a lot smaller as Constellation was terminated by BO. Because most blacks see space as a white man's next colonization project. And Obama hates whites.
The6000Sabre 1 year ago
@The6000Sabre
I agree. This shows how stupid the cunt is. Earth will be no more one day and the only way the human race will survive is if we move out into space. Space exploration is just as important (if not more so) than this fake global warming joke.
Whilst we spend our money on weapons, thowing it down the frain in Africa etc ...time is ticking....
29Gixxer 1 year ago
@The6000Sabre 30% reduction on both sides over the next seven years. (As reported by WSJ, BBC, CBC, Bloomberg, NBC, CNN...)
Peace through capitulation, which is why we have expanded the defense budget to its largest since WWII, under Barry. Perhaps you are evidence Barry should actually be spending less on defense, and more on primary education.
jdan007 1 year ago
@jdan007 let's all hold hand and sing Kumbaya.
watch?v=FO3NBqT3LBc
The6000Sabre 1 year ago
@jdan007 Education, EDUCATION! That's the big answer to everything and nothing!
FACT!!! Public education is not about educating kids. Because many high schools in America have high drop-out and failure rates.
Public Education in America is all about the NEA. Its an employment program for teachers.
The6000Sabre 1 year ago
@jdan007
Ronald Wilson Reagan = peace through strength.
Barack Hussein Obama = peace through capitulation.
BIG DIFFERENCE!
The6000Sabre 1 year ago
@The6000Sabre
Sounds like the tactics of old Chamberlain lol and we all know where that lead too.....
29Gixxer 1 year ago
@29Gixxer Yes, we all do.
The6000Sabre 1 year ago
@29Gixxer
The reason why I dislike the guy is simple. We are giving our blood in Afghanistan alongside the Americans and the truth is they need us there but we are happy to help. Rather than support us in the Faklands he has refused to do this and is going around the world kissing the asses of the likes of China/Russia. As it stands...UK is being pushed towards the EU and we don't see Obama as an ally.
29Gixxer 1 year ago
@29Gixxer, Obama is no friend of the UK or any other democratic nation.
The6000Sabre 1 year ago
@29Gixxer
Support you in the Falklands? How? by buying
more mutton? At some point reality needs to kick
in regarding your hardon for the Falklands.
kidynamite58 1 year ago
@kidynamite58
You do realize there's oil down thier dufuss? What I was saying (so idiots like you can understand) is that the UK helped US in Afghanistan and Iraq. Now Obama won't acknowledge our right to the Falklandss. Clinton admitted there was fuck all she could do though lol. When you guys pick up the guts and win a war on your own then come back haha.
29Gixxer 1 year ago
@29Gixxer
I didn't realize that there is oil down THERE. But apparently
you do professor. Your right to the Falklands? There's about
50 million Argentinians who would disagree. Win a war on our
own? Have the Brits ever gone to war without a large contingent
of mercenaries?
kidynamite58 1 year ago
@kidynamite58
Haha I know you Yanks don't get allot of outside media but the net is around so there's no excuse. Today it was officially confirmed by BP that a substantial amount of oil is there...around 60,000,000,000 barrels worth. Do you really think we would of sent our men to die over a bare island in 1982? :) This si why there will be another war soon. Yes...we use Gurkhas...the fiercest warriors on earth but they are apart of the Brit army and are amazingly loyal to the crown.
29Gixxer 1 year ago
@29Gixxer
I get my news from the BBC.
You knew about the oil in 82? Sure. And BPs going to
extract it? nuff said. And England is entitled to it? I wonder
what the world court would say about that. And how many
Hessians have died for the crown?
kidynamite58 1 year ago
@kidynamite58
Yes, we fought and won in 1982 so I think we deserve it a little bit more than USA deserve Iraq's oil...well...especially when you take into consideration that the people who live on those Islands are actually British :)
29Gixxer 1 year ago
@29Gixxer
You won the war so you deserve the oil? Isn't that
what Stalin said? US is making no claim on Iraqs'
oil.
kidynamite58 1 year ago 2
@kidynamite58
lol typical American hypocrite I see. Your claiming oil in Iraq/trying to build a pipeline in Afghanistan yet the Falkland islands are populated by British people? Can't you see the difference here? Being American, I would think carefully before critisizing others :)
29Gixxer 1 year ago
@kidynamite58
And anyway...those Islands will probably be given to Argentina in due time...just after we have drilled out all of the oil :0
29Gixxer 1 year ago
@29Gixxer LoL. You're probably right about that:-) The 'PC' brigade in British government will probably let them have the country (UK) too, to compensate them for 'hurt feelings' during '82:-)
Thing is, BP is largely American owned, so most of the oil will probably go to the US!
Ps. Love the 'Hitler reacts to England v Germany' skits on your channel. Hilarious:-))
ianrkav 1 year ago
@kidynamite58 They've known about the oil for a very long time:-) Otherwise they wouldn't have bothered. There is also vast mineral wealth there too.
ianrkav 1 year ago
@29Gixxer no! outside news bbc, european journal, france24, rt news,
american1812 1 year ago
@kidynamite58 Are you really that stupid? Pretty soon the good will you take for granted is going to run out and then you will have to invade other countries all on your own and we all know you don't like doing that.I'm sure an opportunity will present itself to reciprocate though.
Saxe333 1 year ago
@Saxe333
Good, if there weren't so many other countries enabling
us, maybe we wouldn't be so quick to invade.
kidynamite58 1 year ago
@The6000Sabre
That double spacing is really quite effective, peace out.
kidynamite58 1 year ago
@The6000Sabre
You're a Marxist, Groucho, that is.
kidynamite58 1 year ago
America has a jiggaboo Marxist for a leader. We deserve to get our asses kicked in just for electing such a monkey for president
The6000Sabre 1 year ago
@The6000Sabre
while he is black, he actually is about as pro-market as a human can possibly be. Health Care Bill was radically modified to favor the insurance industry (ultimately the bill is basically written by insurance indy lobbyists) + the bailout, was requested by free-market firms.. I suggest you go read some Marx if you think Barry Obama is at all Marxist.
jdan007 1 year ago
@jdan007 What you say is a canard [Rafale has canards, too] The Health bill was produced in the Senate. Obama preferred the House version, which was blocked. That legislation had the Public Option which was to undermine insurance companies. Who cares about constitutionality?
So Then Obama took over GM and Chrysler and pulled the rug out from under their stockholders. Was that market orientated? Then he took the student loan business away from the banks. A free market move, also? I suppose?
The6000Sabre 1 year ago
@The6000Sabre
GM required government assistance to remain solvent and avoid bankruptcy, GM's exec's (elected by the board of directors) requested federal intervention. Banks still offer student loans in the U.S. The health bill that passed Was altered by the insurance lobby, changes which Barry, not a Marxist, would have approved (and did in this case). PS. "He uses sedition" not "seditiousness" which is not a word.
jdan007 1 year ago
@jdan007 GM asked the Bush White House for loan assistance. When BO became pres. he took control of GM, fired it's CEO and made GM a government entity.
Banks are NO LONGER ALLOWED to make Gov. Guaranteed Student Loans. One can apply for a personal loan and use it for college. However, one needs collateral, a cosigner and the interest rate is higher. GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS. BO took over student loans, its part of the Health Care Act
Seditiousness: is the act of being seditious.
The6000Sabre 1 year ago
@jdan007 YOU KNOW YOU LOST THE ARGUMENT WHEN YOU STATE START NITPICKING ON GRAMMAR AND SPELLING.
THIS IS FUCKING YOUTUBE, NOT A TOMBSTONE ENGRAVING SERVICE
The6000Sabre 1 year ago
@jdan007
Also you have to know you lost the argument when you are reduced to picking on grammar and spelling.
This is fucking YouTube. Its not the engravers!
The6000Sabre 1 year ago
@The6000Sabre It is neither spelling nor grammar, it is a word that does not exist in the English language.
First, GM is a privately held entity. Second, you always needed a co-signer under a certain age for fed. backed student loans. Now, it does not mean private loans are removed, it means, the government will no longer back private loans if they turn into bad debts, that is Marxist?
You know you lost the argument when you type in ALLCAPS. Consider more formal education, less Google.
jdan007 1 year ago
@jdan007 GM was never privately held. GM began as a holding company for Buick and Cadillac. Later Olds, then Chevrolet under William Durant. Oakland joined in the 20's and became Pontiac in the 30's. Today GM is owned 70% by US Gov.
The gov. was the "co-signer" of gov. backed student loans. Now government loans the money directly as per ObamaCare.
The6000Sabre 1 year ago
@jdan007 ALL CAPS is for idiots such as you who cant understand facts.
English language is a living language. and the sufix "ness" is an adjective form of the noun. As I have listened enough to your foolishness. Seditiousness is one who engages in sedition. If not a word than I just DEEMED it one.
Schools do not educate, but simply indoctrinate. One is responsible for educating oneself.
The6000Sabre 1 year ago
Rafale is the most advanced naval fighter in the world, currently. FACT! This I suppose until the F-35 is completed.
The6000Sabre 1 year ago
@The6000Sabre
F-18E/F with APG-79 + AN/ALQ-214 + SLAM-ER or JSOW + AIM120Cs + AIM9X all on the same mission + Upcoming IRIST. May not be able to hold energy as well in a dogfight, but that depends heavily on the loadout of either aircraft when they get to the merge. Fact?
jdan007 1 year ago
@jdan007 also, Obama is a Marxist subversive who uses seditiousness. He is not a Marxist revolutionary.
So Barack Obama is far more like Salvador Allende than he is Fidel Castro.
The6000Sabre 1 year ago
@The6000Sabre
Lastly, Barry would not have received DNC nomination and become president as a "Marxist," the majority of the money both the RNC and DNC receive come from corporate special interests. If you have been to college, please, consider a graduate program. If you have not attended college, please, attend college. At a minimum, please, enroll in a public finance course or civics course at your local junior college.
jdan007 1 year ago
@jdan007 Who the FUCK are you but a sawed off effete youtube rug rat
The6000Sabre 1 year ago
@jdan007 BO was able to convinced enough Jerry Springer / Oprah watching morons the he was a "moderate"
Obama is a Marxist. As were his father and mother. Do a Google search, why don't you?
The6000Sabre 1 year ago
@The6000Sabre
PPACA: Impose an annual penalty of $95, or up to 1% of income, whichever is greater, on individuals who do not secure insurance; this will rise to $695, or 2.5% of income, by 2016. This is an individual limit; families have a limit of $2,085.[37][41] Exemptions to the fine in cases of financial hardship or religious beliefs are permitted.[
The6000Sabre 1 year ago
@jdan007 As the proverb goes: IF YOU HAVE TO SAY YOU ARE NOT, YOU ARE
The6000Sabre 1 year ago
Quel est le nom de la musique ? svp
HTRfdg 1 year ago
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AMERICANS BELIEVE EVERYTHING CONETRE BUT IN FACT THEY HAVE DONE THAT STEAL THE GERMAN TECHNOLOGY UBoot (submarine) V2 (rocket) V1 (missile) JET ENGINE FOR ANY WAY THEY ARE STEALING QUA CA (OIL) is to rewrite your 's story because they did not seem aware BAND OF VICTIM
TOUNISE1 1 year ago
Great stuff. Great to see us cross training together... Rafale is a beautiful aircraft.
iowa61 1 year ago 56
@iowa61 it's wonderful !!! to see the French and american together , to share in close cooperation with together !!!
esprit83990 1 year ago 2
Wow, soft landing
monkeyman1140 1 year ago
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loser pilots
mixxmexx 1 year ago
Les 2 rafales qui se sont téléscopés le 25 /09/09en rejoignant le porte-avion Charles de Gaulle au large de Perpignan ,il n'y en a qu'un de vivant ,celui qui c'est éjecté ;L'autre il est dans le fond du bleu pour toujours
jloup95 2 years ago
Mis à part les 5 étoiles, j'ai juste une remarque à faire: on écrit amériCain
moiGTO 2 years ago 2
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Il crollo del 2 Rafales nella mediterranea off Perpignan il 24 settembre 2009 dopo una collisione in volo, giunge in un momento delicato per il Brasile-Francia negoziati
br96022 2 years ago
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In April 2009, news reports stated the Dassault Rafale has been disqualified from the competition for not meeting minimum performance requirements of the Indian Air Force
br96022 2 years ago
Trop sexy le Rafale. Dassaut a toujours fait de superbe avions.
FredAndCoInc 2 years ago 3
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The Brasilian Air Force said that is the WROST.
the problem is that rafale is not a good airplane. 38 are crashed and the last 2 airplane were crashed some days ago. take a look at google france.
No one want it. French aren't able to find one that want it.
The price is too hight, the fly cost is 4 times hight and the manutention 2 times highet than other. French want sell it with old avionic system to pay the new projects for the french national airplanes
br96022 2 years ago
38 Rafales crashed? where the f*** did you find those bullshits? I'm not even sure that we have so many rafales...
braorius 2 years ago 3
@braorius
This guy Come from Algeria, this is only propaganda ANti FRench...3 Crash in fact:
1 Pilot Spacial disorientation
2 on collision
So 3 Pilots mistakes
CassiusYou 1 year ago
DassauLt!
moiGTO 2 years ago
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br96022 2 years ago
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FredAndCoInc 2 years ago
Compatible, then.
GalliumNitride 2 years ago
1... passage crosse rentrée
2... touch and go ( donc crosse rentrée )
3... Appontage
damounne 2 years ago 6
oui 1 passage de repérage
2 touch and go (crosse rentrée)
3 appont.
IL0VEBARCA 2 years ago
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il a du mal dommage
bide777 2 years ago
Non il a pas du mal lol, il fait un touch and go!
Waldganger64 2 years ago 26
ah, ok xD
bide777 2 years ago
@Waldganger64
Premier passage = reconnaissance
2nd = prise de repères..
fauchartfred 1 year ago
@Waldganger64 : Je précise que ça se voit à se cross rentré.
dufonrafal 1 year ago
whats with the french and non-retractable refuler-probes?
TheMrUSA 2 years ago
Non-retractable means stronger, less maintenance and less chance to have refueling or extanding failures.
braorius 2 years ago 4
Yes thats true, but the french seem to be the only still using it. The thing does sit in your field of view. With aircrafts being spotted at around 10miles visually at day, they are small dots and could be obstructed by the probe.
TheMrUSA 2 years ago
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EtoileMatutine 2 years ago