People voted for the representatives and let them stay in office (very few recalls were done) when the representatives were observed to be bad. Also people voted again for bad representatives. The people are responsible for voting the people in and allowing them to stay in their jobs.
@OldSchoolSkill Reaffirm your idea of what right and wrong is, understand the difference between common law and petty legislation then learn to rebel, turn rebellion into an art form, build networks, begin to produce, produce anything you can trade with your neighbours and their neighbours and most importantly STOP PAYING TAXES HOWEVER< WHEREVER YOU CAN..... your taxes give them the money they need to stomp all over our world. Believe in each other. peace
Bull. You are a douche. The IOU is a US Treasury Bond. The same kind that the young are investing in when they build their 401k.
We have the lowest tax rates since the 50s. The taxes that have gone up in relation to our income are regressive changes due to the reduction on top tax rates.
Remember that the rules inflicted upon you are also the ones that keep people from taking your beloved property.
There is no wall. There is no border guard that will stop you from leaving if you don't like it.
@OldManMorrow The "take it or leave it" argument is pretty tired. I suspect anyone who uses it hasn't thought about it. The best patriots are the ones that stand and fight and try to make things better.
I am sick of hearing morons say "I served my country so that you could speak like that"... what kind of stupidity are you a victim of. What does that crap have to do with what the video is about. Assuming your war service was not filled with evil violence and let us assume that every war america got into was moral and just. Even then it has nothing to do with your failure in other regards. You are using a logical fallacy and it is a particularly offensive and onerouse one.
How about trying this: Social security should never be paid out to anyone that did not pay into the program!!!! Those single parents with several kids are killing the program. Let them starve! They made them, they can bury them!
Drivel...by an educated idiot. In the 70s, our version of Youtube was two tin cans and a 100 feet of yarn. Youtube has viscosity...it lubricates political effort. Idiot.
This is absolute drivel. I earned, paid taxes, served our country in combat and bled my own blood for it AND fought within the law to fix the systems in this country. I did this so that you would have the ability to state drivel like this. If I (and many like me) hadn't, much of the world would still be under the control of men like Hitler, Tojo, or Il Duce. Don't be so arrogant as to tell me I didn't work to make this country and haven't earned my retirement. I know better.
I did NOT fight for the corporate masters as you call them. I fought for YOU and to make it possible for you to talk this kind of nonsense. I fought and served to prevent you from being shot or imprisoned for stating anti-government talk like this. Some examples? Red China, Burma, North Korea, and several others if you care to look. My service was for YOU and others like you. I wish you had been with me when I took pictures of the stacks of bodies the first day I walked into Dachau.
@beet74 rofl. You are responsible for your actions. We do not owe you anything. You chose to do what you chose to do. Fighting in foreign countries will hardly if ever qualify as defending freedom. WHat I do know that your generation did do is fail to control the government, raise your children in violence and fear, and abuse women and children constantly. Do you really want me to judge you by your "examples" only. Get over yourself, you are just a human being and like all of us are responsible.
@beet74 that still doesn't change the fact that what you paid was stolen by the gov't. We thank you for your service but you are as robbed of your future as everybody that was born after you.
We have all been robbed but it doesn't give us license to rob eachother at the end of the day
I how when a plan is proposes to patch the current socialist security system they leave out the people currently benifiting or close to it to keep them from bawling. To that I say bullshit! For the last 25 years I've been watching these selfish old farts with their attitude of "Oh well, so long as I get mine!" you youg people can fix the problem for youselves! Well shit Aunt Besi, not if we have you voting against us. You need to feed on your own fowl slop right with everyone else!
Not only that, but it was the previous generation being asleep at the wheel and falling for the governments offer of exchanging their rights for benefits and privileges. They sold their children's and gran children's birthrights for shiny baubles. Now WE, of this generation have to work full time just to straighten the whole mucking fess THEY created. You fell for the lies of the politicians. Thanks a lot.
WE indeed are not in control of anything! One may think they had control or "influence" through voting and all political scams but that is an illusion and a lie.all these scams were and are enforced by force ,intimadation etc etc.the only liberty is in the form of mental liberty and that comes from Christ, the mind of Christ. thank you for all the great information and hard work
Anyway, I must go to do washing up now because I have got a life and want to design a tee shirt for amoriste a new up and coming band group. I will do it for free just to get a hand hold on the art ladder. When I was young I could not afford to go to Art school. I had to go to work. Yes there was work but we didnt get any handouts to study or at least I and my parents one Italian, didnt know where to access them. I worked and worked. Now is my time
My webcam is on the blink but I will buy a new one within the week and will respond. I think you are brill stefbot because you have got me thinking again. I wasnt able to think straight for so many years due to working too hard in the system and bringing up two kids who are now 38 and 41. One with three kids the other chose to have none. I love them all and want a good world for them to live in. I have always brought them up to share and to be liberal. But life and love changes everything.
Mee again....Last year I was so stressed with working I made any amount of youtube vids to help myself. I woke at 2am and 3 am in morning. Probably going mad. In the system which increases the work load and lets people go so the remaining staff are pushed to the brinki. It is a diabolical system but unfortunatey I have fed into it. Ok though what will replace it? Especially now as the world is changing somewhat with Tunisia and Egypt and Syriah etc.
Me again....I am an old person on the outside but young on the inside...check out my youtube chats....I have always been sick of paying taxes, working hard and seeing all sorts of frauds, scams and people taking advantage...Life is so unfair. It is always the ones who will give their all and the next 10 per cent who get used by the lazy blaggards and users of this world. Many of us oldies are the cannon fodder and the bread and butter workers. I have always known this.
Is this David Cameron talking about in the big society then...he wants us all to do voluntary work to help each other etc....I am 62 a grandmother looking after my grandchildren now. Have been paying taxes, voting Liberal all my life protesting against wars doing youth work, probation work and working with children till I was so stressed I gave up last year. Female and just old enough to be able to get my pension. Voluntary work is ok but I wanI to do art and enjoy myself b.efore I die.
there is no money. only debt. but there is value & it's being hidden. 3w. cafr1 . com. i don't see how choosing to buy a chance at knocking down bottles w/ a coconut is analogous to social security taxes being withheld & failure of "the farmers" to safeguard same. I do admit that we have no control over the political system. None. The political system, at least in US, is not controlled by voters or citizens, but by "We the People" and THEIR posterity. right of self determination . com.
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Dude I think something really bad happened to you when you were six or seven years old. I would tell you to go see a shrink but I don't beleive in that BS. The way your are chewing on the old people makes you look like a total looser. You need to start thinking about what you can do to help. Man Up.
Great video! My Dad has been saying this for years, now he is 70 years old and can't stand most old people due to their selfishness and willing to live off the labors of the young while placing them into more debt.
Most Americans have been turned into apathetic cowards(Re-Education)-hence the need to "deputize" somebody to use force for SS...or a road,or a school, and then call it a "service".
@drakulva Every ill? Where did you get that from? Did he blame them for the black plague? Did he blame them for athlete's foot? How did you get that from this video?
Excellent! How have we ever gotten ourselves into a position where our elected government officials vote their own pay raises, their own (breathtaking!) benefit and retirement packages, and steal the social security funds of the electorate who have had the proverbial gun held to their heads for the 40+ years of their working lives. This will not change peacefully.
@elouwen I think the best thing to do is dismantle the IRS for good. I think we can come up with a better system. I would not mind the IRS so much if the government wasn't so greedy.
@elouwen OK, I think I get that. The IRS has thought of everything. It's hard to find a loophole there. But couldn't an employer pay an employee with money from profits (after paying taxes) and bypass the IRS instead of compensating the employee as a business expense?
Well, young feller. I don't know too many old folks who are under any illusion that we had any control over the big decisions of the day. So, on behalf of old farts everywhere, I will accept your money. Now perhaps you could admit that we oldies, powerless as we have been, still managed to build the schools you went to, the roads you drive on, the hospitals you will need at some point, and so on. Unless you were hatched fully formed, you owe more than a little to the adults who nurtured you.
The SS scam proved not to be a great way to save for old age. There is no foolproof way of preserving wealth. Inflation robs us all. Even gold can be stolen. It seems the truest store of wealth lies in the knowledge one acquires.
Thank you Stephan for your kind offer to share your money but I'm quite sure that those dollars won't do either you or me much good in the not so distant future. Your wealth of knowledge however will be priceless and you are already sharing that. Thank you again.
@Luiyi385 What about the price paid for the breakfast burrito I got at the gas station last week, which increased the GDP for every person of the United States? Who will compensate my efforts? Do not be selfish, I deserve full compensation and paid pension for my stunning and selfless behavior.
So let me get this straight, if I admit that I had no control over the political system, then I get your money? I'm an old hippie, I've never had control, never will. This Corporate Monster has gone so far out of control it is stupid to even listen to the news anymore, all they babble about is money, money, money, and there is no money, taxes, taxes and more taxes, and there is no money. Unless you consider monopoly money worth something, because it's all fake as I can see.
@joe80dman {It isn't the faults of the Old Geezers, it's the pis poor mismanagement of the government for screwing things up.}
Haha. If you take a tiger as a pet, and feed him till he grows big and strong and breaks his chains and starts eating people, eating the whole village -- you want to blame the tiger??
“Government is not reason. It is not eloquence. Government is force; like fire it is a dangerous servant -- and a fearful master.” —George Washington
@mindprism : Alright, smartass. Then lets rebate ALL social security taxes to those people who've paid throughout their lives into a system that was nothing less than an additional income tax.
@joe80dman In a democracy, the people are the govt. So either you deny the democracy or you take responsibility for what you have done.
I think the moral thing to do, firstly, is to stop forcing people to pay into a system that is obviously criminal. THEN, see how much money you have to 'refund' those who have paid in all their lives.
Intergenerational crimes still deserve condemnation.
@mindprism : THe word "democracy" appears NOWHERE within the U.S. Constitution. The word "democracy" has been spoon fed to us by media outlets for decades for a desired result. Since when has our government done the will of the People in our democracy anyway? We have an Oligarchy running this country, a bunch of Plutocrats. Their days are numbered, and they're becoming fearful of the angry masses who are out to "string them up" from tree branches.
I really think you hit the buttom here, stef. You can't expect of all people to understand this big machinery that is the state. I know I'm quite intelligent. I work with pretty advanced stuff in my dayly life, boith neural networks, 3 dimensional transformations/matrices, and general math solving tasks. Yet I have NO idea what is going on. I have no idea how a state really works, or how economics function at its base. Be careful not to forget how skewed once expectation of ->
what counts as base knowledge becomes, as soon as you get an advanced knowledge yourself. I know how head shakenly mystified I can feel, when someone don't know what a galaxy really is, yet I understand we have to focus our effort at different spots of the knowledge sphere, to ever become good at anything. We can't use ressources to understand it all. And I have allways just figured that my country was in good hands, without having the need to understand it fully.
To try to make people think they are somehow personally responsible for what has happend, is just too low. We have no idea what the state is, or what it these big figures and strategies means. And that is not as stupid as forgetting a damn test. Such a bad comparison, it hurts... please, stef...
Btw. my country functions pretty well as a state. So maybe it's not so much the system, as it is parts of the system. The fun part is, the biggest difference between yours and mine country->
are the fact that we have state funded health inssourance, and a more controlled economic/business. The very things you despise, are the main reason we function, and the America doesn't. Or maybe it isn't I really don't have a clue about these matters...as already stated...
You ARE responsible for what has happened for as long as you vote.
And your state is NOT functioning pretty well. If it did, you would not even NEED to vote. Why don't you ask voters of the losing parties if they are happy.
You just claim that it's functioning well, but ask all those countrymen who are dissatisfied. What are they dissatisfied with? With the completely logical consequences of STATISM. They just don't know that they are indeed the logical consequences of statism.
Also. you have no idea what the state is? Then why does Stef know? Why do i know? Do you think we are superhuman or something? Of course not. We are simply willing to learn and think, instead of voting like sheeple and then whining about the results.
Whining about debts, wars, taxes, stupid laws, corruption. It is your OWN fault that you refuse to look at the root of these problems. Nobody needs to hold your hand for you to start asking the right questions.
LOL, the old folks are F&%$ed, I hate to say it but then again most of those people VOTED for their own demise with these crap criminal politicians who always promised them more, and they bought it! Oh well old folks, have fun eating saltine crackers in your retirement. Im not paying anything to the retirees they can suck rocks.
Man, you must have failed that test realll... bad. I think you are arrogant to berate one sector of our society so badly. Every generation has made mistakes and been a product of their upbringing. History continues to repeat itself over and over, this boomer generation is not the only generation to be blind and trusting and apathetic. Its been going on for millenia. Then the shit storm happens and the name calling, blame gets passed around. The good thing is shit storms make us all think.
The Baby Boomers went from being, potentially, one of the greatest generations of all time, to the most disastrous. Every aspect of America's social, economic, and political fiber is broken. Greed and self gratification rule(d). [What? 60 is the new 20? Just how stupid and out of tune is that?]
They should have done us all a favor an spent the last 50 years on one big LSD trip.
First of all if voting could change anything it would be illegal, wehave no more power over THEM than the Russians did in the cold war era, thiers a one party system ours a two party system with both parties working for the same crooks.
How do you guys feel about finding jobs out there that pay you under the table to avoid paying taxes? The government is not using our tax money wisely, so is this a good measure for the average person to take to fight a corrupt system? Any thoughts?
@HigherPlanes If you get caught, you will be thrown in prison for a long time. However, if accepted widely enough, it could work or at least force a change in the tax system and laws. Using a competing currecy is another way of breaking free from government control. However, it is not organized or severe enough yet for most people to try this.
@SomethingSea1 I pose that question because it's actually one of the only ways that I can think of that lets an average person fight and cripple a corrupt system. Earn money by any means, but by all means don't pay taxes. By definition (in my dictionary) people that pay taxes are crazy.
@HigherPlanes "If you get caught, you will be thrown in prison for a long time."
Put a camera in my room, and put a camera in all peoples' rooms. There. Now we have a universal prison. Now we can all work without taxes.
Hell, let's just make the jail cell the standard design for houses, and assign half the population to torture the other half. Global prison system FTW!
And HigherPlanes, agreed. I've been looking to do stuff on the internet, because it's much easier to avoid taxes.
@SomethingSea1 "I've been looking to do stuff on the internet, because it's much easier to avoid taxes." Dear non-tax payer; you forget where the Internet came from and whose computers all the pipes run through.
"Put a camera in my room, and put a camera in all peoples' rooms."
If you are here, it's already there.
We see you and we know what you're doing. Have a nice day until the black helicopters arrive.
@IsaacBickerstaffEsq Dear closed-minded labler... labels are so useful. Once I put a label on you, I know how to deal with you. I don't need to think about anything. Someone is a criminal? Put them in jail. Someone is an x? Do y. Fun.
@IsaacBickerstaffEsq "We see you and we know what you're doing. Have a nice day until the black helicopters arrive."
Cute. And since you're including everybody, I guess everyone will have a helicopter come to their home. That either means a lot of black helicopters, or lots of fuel. And a lot of places to keep the people. Well, I guess now 50% of the population will need to be employed by the government. Yay. Now half the population enslaves the other half. Everyone wins ^_^
@HigherPlanes That's called agorism, best way to get to anarcho-capitalism in my opinion, and the awesome thing is it's a non-violent solution, no conflict necessary.
@HigherPlanes If you want to engage in tax resistance legally (and there are some advantages to doing it legally) you may consider making enough donations to non-profits to reduce your taxable income to the lowest bracket. Of course, the groups you donate to would have to be government-approved. And the amount you get to keep for yourself is still determined by the gov't too... From what I heard it's called the "Don't Owe Nothin' Method".
Wealthy? I worked and paid taxes for 40 years and all I have to show for it is $1000. per month. Considering my rent is $800. per month it isn't much.
That was good. I would like to see political whores and banksters lose their heads over this. Don't think we are to civilized to have that happen. People are pissed and want blood.
Stop the wars you filthy joo banker pigs. Or we will put you to rest.
Here's something for you to mull over: Aren't the young also responsible? We should all know they've blown the money. Anyone old enough to work and vote is equally responsible if they aren't taking action.
You should see the bullshit pensions that the goverment employees have of the older generation. My older friends are on $60k / year pension until they retire. Wheres my F*ucking $60k per year until I retire because I can't function in my job anymore???? You are so right Stef, How may tax payers have to be to make up these pension?
@HiPointMan *sigh* any "ism" is whatever you behave with respect to. Capitalsm it's respect to capital, anarchism respect to anarchy, communism respect to commune. it's basic etymology.
In russia and China they were TOLD it was communism, what it WAS was totalitarianism, because of a top down structure of control. all behaiour was with respect to Stalin, or Mao(in china). That cannot be communism.
Hitler did not even CLAIM communism. He was a Nazi. It was fascism.
Hitler did lay claim to socialism, though. "We are socialists, we are enemies of today’s capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions." - Hitler, 1927
@TheCapitalistdog yeah but it wasn't socialism, was it? Jews were part of the society. Hitler lied to them. Simple. if you believe it was socialism because hitler SAID it was socialism, you're as bad the people who believed in him.
Any time people believe in a leader to take power over them, they're agreeing to fascism.
Actually no, Hitler's Germany was really socialist. His political opposition was the establishement, the right and he came with a "revolutionary" (left) political discourse to which alot of people flocked to.
Not really. Building empires is a dream shared by all megalomaniac politicians. Hitler's Germany tried it, Stalin's USSR tried it as well. Hell, even Cuba when they were USSR-sponsored were putting their fingerprints all over Central/South America and even Africa. By the way, the USSR killed way more jews than Hitler ever did.
Why do you have to rub our noses in it? Before going on this philosophic escapade, can we ask exactly where the money went? Was it not used to buy government bonds of some sort? Treasury bills? Are those bonds not there?
There is such a thing as fraud. The fact that the money is gone means that the thief wins? That's just absurd. Secondly, we were told that this was 'insurance', and annuity that we bought. Say what you will, it was never voluntary, it was an extortion.
@sealhunter5 *sigh* any "ism" is whatever you behave with respect to. Capitalsm it's respect to capital, anarchism respect to anarchy, communism respect to commune. it's basic etymology.
In russia and China they were TOLD it was communism, what it WAS was totalitarianism, because of a top down structure of control. all behaiour was with respect to Stalin, or Mao(in china). That cannot be communism.
Evolution dictates the fittest will survive, not the strongest. Difference.
@sealhunter5 don't be insecure about it. Opinions about what's intelligent and what isn't intelligent isn't a sure thing, and can change with time, with hindsight.
What's brave is ALWAYS brave. In thought, and in action. Bravery's what counts.
And that's where we are all on a level playing field. No advantages.
You talk and talk and talk and say nothing of sustance and just recap the obvious for 9 minutes while offering no real alternatives . You advice is only to "acknowledge acceptance of one's actions" which is only common sense to anybody with an IQ higher than that of a moron. If you want to give advice then layout a program of specific actions.
I would recommend you to learn more about Molyneux' philosophy by watching more of his videos. To understand why other viewpoints isn't that relevant in this video, you need a solid framework of why he (and others) claim the world we live in is malfunctioning.
His videos could still be shorter, its not hard to agree about that. If you read this Stephan, take it into consideration: You should try to make your videos shorter.
@Torulv - After experiencing my 70 years on this "blue marble" , I'm well aware of what works and what doesn't work. It is amazing that each generation "thinks" they've discovered some new insight into life and how the world functions. Maybe you should watch some of my financial videos.
I'm certainly trying my best to avoid judging by emotion rather than reason. I know its common to forget and do the opposite when you are young, since the wisdom of experience hasnt grown on me for too long. That is, I'm not a follower of any particular system, for instance like the one stefbot is preaching. Rather I watch and read with curiosity to get insight - as I will watch some of your videos as suggested.
@oldwithgold So what if he didn't offer an alternative? What are you like completely ignorant of the fact that this guy has made like thousands of podcasts, has written a couple of books, and has typed up numerous articles on this stuff? It's not like he has to baby step you through ever single aspect of his philosophy every single video.
You're addicted to politicians. You want something already all packaged that you only need to vote for instead of thinking on your own. A type of thinking that clearly ruined your country for a good couple of generations. By saying he just "talks and talks and say nothing of substance" you cleatly have not "acknowledged acceptance of one's actions".
90% of americans end up flat broke at age 65 read this stat 25 years ago so nothing new here, Americans great people ,but the country s a sham dictatorship
Stef, you had some very good points there (as usual), but there's one thing that bugs me. You argue that today's senior citizens funded the government retirement system and therefore should bear the consequenses of government's careless sepnding. I would agree if they invested in the system voluntarily, but we both know better than that. The money is always collected at gunpoint when the government is involved.
Anyway, it'll be interesting to see if anyone takes the offer.
@Jouzou87 "I would agree if they invested in the system voluntarily, but we both know better than that. The money is always collected at gunpoint when the government is involved."
He made that point in the video. It was the part about accepting they didn't have control over the system...
My wife and I (and our 14month old daughter) LOVE listening to your rational arguments and truths. And often we can hardly wait for the next video post. Although, we would prefer you tone down the rants on sunday mornings :) Make it a family day, go easy on the coffee and lets discus libertarian parenting or something more positive than gloom and doom. Just a suggestion :)
Well, I just received my second old-age, and second pension, cheques a couple of days ago - I started getting them in July - and hell yes, I agree. I never thought of the government as something I had any part of. I tried taking on schools when I was in school and found out it was just going the wrong way on a one way highway, and governments and schools are just two of the different heads on the same beast. That beast we should breed with some other more amenable one, yes, if possible.
Old people, if we`re talking about common people here, are very confused. They have, in many cases, been lead down the road of serfdom contrary to, or at least without, their explicit and clear knowledge of what their leaders, particularly their leaders in education and politics but also in business, have let on.
I have been giving input to the political system, and I have been largely ignored. I also have ideas and speak them and have been largely ignored. Therefore you are correct sir in that I know I have no control over my government, my employer. other people. YET when things go wrong they all come to me, usually for labor or money.
I think the current system is collapsing and we'll just have to make a better one once they're out of the way....
the obsession with the political system ==> fuck off. Respect for the elderly is not dependent on wether or not the political system in the time of their sheepleness or wadge-slavery was inhumane or immoral or whatever. To argue that the elderly can have your money (labour, assets, healthcare, housing, etc) as a gift is just selfish to the bone. Like you try to score some moral-applause for something as care for the elder. "they" are the "richest" generation? your opinion and ignorance.
Just because the government takes from us some amount of $ doesn't mean one should accept government services. Why? Because the exact amounts are muddled; redistribution is part of the larger problem. Just allowing government to keep more money in of itself does nothing, they will just spend it on something else. But the act of openly rejecting services and explaining why, is a powerful tactic for winning minds. And not as dangerous to your health as Civil Disobedience.
Old people need to realize that their pensions are NOT postponed wages, their wages have long since been used to find government services for THEM, not for the currently working generations. They voted to use up their pension money for govt goodies back in their days, when they also paid much lower taxes and had much better economic opportunities. They saved nothing. And now they expect the slaves of the oppressive system they created to work even harder to feed their needy dependent mouths.
This is all very relevant for the pension system we have in Sweden, and the retired people seem to be the no.1 hot issue in the upcoming election. I have been saying this for years, how immoral it is for retired people who have been cheering on the social democrats for decades, creating a mandatory public pension system that was looted many times over (with their consent) and then whining about not getting more stolen money from the working youth, that has to pay higher taxes than they ever did.
Dear stefbot, I enjoy listening to your videos.
TenaciouslyWinning 1 month ago
Blazing blue eyes are the hottest thing ever.
JennJenification 1 month ago
i agree. now give me money!
boghdan2000 1 month ago
People voted for the representatives and let them stay in office (very few recalls were done) when the representatives were observed to be bad. Also people voted again for bad representatives. The people are responsible for voting the people in and allowing them to stay in their jobs.
starlitopensky1 5 months ago
@OldSchoolSkill Reaffirm your idea of what right and wrong is, understand the difference between common law and petty legislation then learn to rebel, turn rebellion into an art form, build networks, begin to produce, produce anything you can trade with your neighbours and their neighbours and most importantly STOP PAYING TAXES HOWEVER< WHEREVER YOU CAN..... your taxes give them the money they need to stomp all over our world. Believe in each other. peace
soulcase1 6 months ago
The money borrowed from social security built the Internet you are using, douchebag.
Quit whining that your society asks you to pitch in.
OldManMorrow 6 months ago
@OldManMorrow no it didnt
soulcase1 6 months ago
Bull. You are a douche. The IOU is a US Treasury Bond. The same kind that the young are investing in when they build their 401k.
We have the lowest tax rates since the 50s. The taxes that have gone up in relation to our income are regressive changes due to the reduction on top tax rates.
Remember that the rules inflicted upon you are also the ones that keep people from taking your beloved property.
There is no wall. There is no border guard that will stop you from leaving if you don't like it.
OldManMorrow 6 months ago
@OldManMorrow The "take it or leave it" argument is pretty tired. I suspect anyone who uses it hasn't thought about it. The best patriots are the ones that stand and fight and try to make things better.
tekproxy 6 months ago
I am sick of hearing morons say "I served my country so that you could speak like that"... what kind of stupidity are you a victim of. What does that crap have to do with what the video is about. Assuming your war service was not filled with evil violence and let us assume that every war america got into was moral and just. Even then it has nothing to do with your failure in other regards. You are using a logical fallacy and it is a particularly offensive and onerouse one.
asc9nd 7 months ago
yup ignorance-
as the police will tell you is no excuse
I'm 26 and looking at life long austerity and working until I die with a reduced standard of living
If I can deal with that then you'd think baby boomers could reconcile the last 10 or 15 years of their life may not be so great
1x93cm 7 months ago
How about trying this: Social security should never be paid out to anyone that did not pay into the program!!!! Those single parents with several kids are killing the program. Let them starve! They made them, they can bury them!
rockbay79 7 months ago
@rockbay79 and in the olden days this is exactly what happened...
either that or orphanages
1x93cm 7 months ago
Drivel...by an educated idiot. In the 70s, our version of Youtube was two tin cans and a 100 feet of yarn. Youtube has viscosity...it lubricates political effort. Idiot.
bodrxx 8 months ago
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beet74 8 months ago
This is absolute drivel. I earned, paid taxes, served our country in combat and bled my own blood for it AND fought within the law to fix the systems in this country. I did this so that you would have the ability to state drivel like this. If I (and many like me) hadn't, much of the world would still be under the control of men like Hitler, Tojo, or Il Duce. Don't be so arrogant as to tell me I didn't work to make this country and haven't earned my retirement. I know better.
beet74 8 months ago
@beet74 You fought for the corporate masters who have enslaved us all. You deserve nothing but our pity.
Stand now for REAL and defend your nation and your family or stand aside.
ulgrum 8 months ago
I did NOT fight for the corporate masters as you call them. I fought for YOU and to make it possible for you to talk this kind of nonsense. I fought and served to prevent you from being shot or imprisoned for stating anti-government talk like this. Some examples? Red China, Burma, North Korea, and several others if you care to look. My service was for YOU and others like you. I wish you had been with me when I took pictures of the stacks of bodies the first day I walked into Dachau.
beet74 7 months ago
@beet74 rofl. You are responsible for your actions. We do not owe you anything. You chose to do what you chose to do. Fighting in foreign countries will hardly if ever qualify as defending freedom. WHat I do know that your generation did do is fail to control the government, raise your children in violence and fear, and abuse women and children constantly. Do you really want me to judge you by your "examples" only. Get over yourself, you are just a human being and like all of us are responsible.
asc9nd 7 months ago
@beet74 wow i just went to your channal real fast. I should have known.... I should never have assumed that you were capable of rational thought.
asc9nd 7 months ago
@beet74: Oh, I made some cookies today for you. I expect your gratitude and compliance in response to this.
andyissemicool 2 months ago
@beet74 that still doesn't change the fact that what you paid was stolen by the gov't. We thank you for your service but you are as robbed of your future as everybody that was born after you.
We have all been robbed but it doesn't give us license to rob eachother at the end of the day
1x93cm 7 months ago
@beet74 Yes you worked for it, however the facts are still the same. That money is gone.
SuperPhdiva 7 months ago
I how when a plan is proposes to patch the current socialist security system they leave out the people currently benifiting or close to it to keep them from bawling. To that I say bullshit! For the last 25 years I've been watching these selfish old farts with their attitude of "Oh well, so long as I get mine!" you youg people can fix the problem for youselves! Well shit Aunt Besi, not if we have you voting against us. You need to feed on your own fowl slop right with everyone else!
150grnballistictip 8 months ago
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cunnidvd 10 months ago
Not only that, but it was the previous generation being asleep at the wheel and falling for the governments offer of exchanging their rights for benefits and privileges. They sold their children's and gran children's birthrights for shiny baubles. Now WE, of this generation have to work full time just to straighten the whole mucking fess THEY created. You fell for the lies of the politicians. Thanks a lot.
AceOfHeart2012 10 months ago
Preserving and promoting freedom of information is key to a true CHANGE and not some political slogan. The truth shall set us FREE
HumanitoriumDOTcom 11 months ago
WE indeed are not in control of anything! One may think they had control or "influence" through voting and all political scams but that is an illusion and a lie.all these scams were and are enforced by force ,intimadation etc etc.the only liberty is in the form of mental liberty and that comes from Christ, the mind of Christ. thank you for all the great information and hard work
sp5878c 1 year ago
@stefbot
do you have any videos specifically about the federal reserve?
MustafaBiggun 1 year ago
last post for now Sorry about my drivel...I know I am irrational that is my strength...Love you loads, Stefbot...keep going
Cardywhite111 1 year ago
Anyway, I must go to do washing up now because I have got a life and want to design a tee shirt for amoriste a new up and coming band group. I will do it for free just to get a hand hold on the art ladder. When I was young I could not afford to go to Art school. I had to go to work. Yes there was work but we didnt get any handouts to study or at least I and my parents one Italian, didnt know where to access them. I worked and worked. Now is my time
Cardywhite111 1 year ago
My webcam is on the blink but I will buy a new one within the week and will respond. I think you are brill stefbot because you have got me thinking again. I wasnt able to think straight for so many years due to working too hard in the system and bringing up two kids who are now 38 and 41. One with three kids the other chose to have none. I love them all and want a good world for them to live in. I have always brought them up to share and to be liberal. But life and love changes everything.
Cardywhite111 1 year ago
Mee again....Last year I was so stressed with working I made any amount of youtube vids to help myself. I woke at 2am and 3 am in morning. Probably going mad. In the system which increases the work load and lets people go so the remaining staff are pushed to the brinki. It is a diabolical system but unfortunatey I have fed into it. Ok though what will replace it? Especially now as the world is changing somewhat with Tunisia and Egypt and Syriah etc.
Cardywhite111 1 year ago
Me again....I am an old person on the outside but young on the inside...check out my youtube chats....I have always been sick of paying taxes, working hard and seeing all sorts of frauds, scams and people taking advantage...Life is so unfair. It is always the ones who will give their all and the next 10 per cent who get used by the lazy blaggards and users of this world. Many of us oldies are the cannon fodder and the bread and butter workers. I have always known this.
Cardywhite111 1 year ago
Is this David Cameron talking about in the big society then...he wants us all to do voluntary work to help each other etc....I am 62 a grandmother looking after my grandchildren now. Have been paying taxes, voting Liberal all my life protesting against wars doing youth work, probation work and working with children till I was so stressed I gave up last year. Female and just old enough to be able to get my pension. Voluntary work is ok but I wanI to do art and enjoy myself b.efore I die.
Cardywhite111 1 year ago
@OldSchoolSkill that is inspirational, thank you
stefbot 1 year ago 3
there is no money. only debt. but there is value & it's being hidden. 3w. cafr1 . com. i don't see how choosing to buy a chance at knocking down bottles w/ a coconut is analogous to social security taxes being withheld & failure of "the farmers" to safeguard same. I do admit that we have no control over the political system. None. The political system, at least in US, is not controlled by voters or citizens, but by "We the People" and THEIR posterity. right of self determination . com.
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primoknoxville 1 year ago
@primoknoxville idiot
nurbSoldier 1 year ago
Dude I think something really bad happened to you when you were six or seven years old. I would tell you to go see a shrink but I don't beleive in that BS. The way your are chewing on the old people makes you look like a total looser. You need to start thinking about what you can do to help. Man Up.
primoknoxville 1 year ago
@primoknoxville does his best to help with all these videos and podcasts almost on a daily basis
nurbSoldier 1 year ago
@primoknoxville
Letting them pay attention is a great start!
jcvjcvjcvjcv 1 year ago
Great video! My Dad has been saying this for years, now he is 70 years old and can't stand most old people due to their selfishness and willing to live off the labors of the young while placing them into more debt.
TreachMarkets 1 year ago 7
[thank you wipersnapper.im going to save the rest under the mattress].great vid man.priceless
ninjafretshadow 1 year ago
Stand up? Ha!
Most Americans have been turned into apathetic cowards(Re-Education)-hence the need to "deputize" somebody to use force for SS...or a road,or a school, and then call it a "service".
People, please read all of the RICO act!!!
THAWK3 1 year ago
Stef is bigoted towards older people, blaming them for every imaginable ill, because he had a terrible childhood.
drakulva 1 year ago
@drakulva Every ill? Where did you get that from? Did he blame them for the black plague? Did he blame them for athlete's foot? How did you get that from this video?
TreachMarkets 1 year ago
@drakulva watch more than one of his videos and you will see this is not the case
nurbSoldier 1 year ago
@drakulva besides, if you watch towards the end of the video, you will see that he does not even really do this here
can you prove anything he said to be logically wrong?
nurbSoldier 1 year ago
Who is this crazy bald fuck ?
justmyself991 1 year ago
Excellent! How have we ever gotten ourselves into a position where our elected government officials vote their own pay raises, their own (breathtaking!) benefit and retirement packages, and steal the social security funds of the electorate who have had the proverbial gun held to their heads for the 40+ years of their working lives. This will not change peacefully.
eternitarian 1 year ago
@elouwen I think the best thing to do is dismantle the IRS for good. I think we can come up with a better system. I would not mind the IRS so much if the government wasn't so greedy.
HigherPlanes 1 year ago
@elouwen OK, I think I get that. The IRS has thought of everything. It's hard to find a loophole there. But couldn't an employer pay an employee with money from profits (after paying taxes) and bypass the IRS instead of compensating the employee as a business expense?
HigherPlanes 1 year ago
@elouwen Maybe I don't understand taxes, but could you explain that to me a little further?
HigherPlanes 1 year ago
Well, young feller. I don't know too many old folks who are under any illusion that we had any control over the big decisions of the day. So, on behalf of old farts everywhere, I will accept your money. Now perhaps you could admit that we oldies, powerless as we have been, still managed to build the schools you went to, the roads you drive on, the hospitals you will need at some point, and so on. Unless you were hatched fully formed, you owe more than a little to the adults who nurtured you.
redriverpete 1 year ago
The SS scam proved not to be a great way to save for old age. There is no foolproof way of preserving wealth. Inflation robs us all. Even gold can be stolen. It seems the truest store of wealth lies in the knowledge one acquires.
Thank you Stephan for your kind offer to share your money but I'm quite sure that those dollars won't do either you or me much good in the not so distant future. Your wealth of knowledge however will be priceless and you are already sharing that. Thank you again.
woodyfbk 1 year ago
Love this vid - Faved it
PlatinumGordon 1 year ago
So what about the price paid by the older generations in World War II for example (for which you are alive and free today among many other benefits) ?
Does "your" money pay for that too?
Luiyi385 1 year ago
@Luiyi385 What about the price paid for the breakfast burrito I got at the gas station last week, which increased the GDP for every person of the United States? Who will compensate my efforts? Do not be selfish, I deserve full compensation and paid pension for my stunning and selfless behavior.
themasteriswatching 1 year ago
@themasteriswatching Love to see you on the D-day beaches in 1944.
Luiyi385 1 year ago
@Luiyi385 Unfortunately I was wounded in Camden
themasteriswatching 1 year ago
@themasteriswatching You sissy.
Luiyi385 1 year ago
@Luiyi385 {So what about the price paid by the older generations in World War II for example}
Yea, yea. Everyone is so eager to mortgage civilization itself aren't they.
Disgusting.
mindprism 1 year ago
Depending on how many senior citizens watch this, Stef might get really poor really fast.
MstrirSage 1 year ago
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MstrirSage 1 year ago
Nicely done. Bait and switch presentation but in a good way.
nijaexhile3 1 year ago
hope Stef has got a large piggybank.
If the old people didn't forget to write him ofcourse
razoorsharp 1 year ago
Let's just bake them into a meat pie.
tuubydude 1 year ago
Some of these old fuckers are the worst, most entitled people out there.
ashane77 1 year ago
Another masterclass in clarity - Thanks
nanciqwerty 1 year ago
Revolution
King Louis
RonRepublican 1 year ago
So let me get this straight, if I admit that I had no control over the political system, then I get your money? I'm an old hippie, I've never had control, never will. This Corporate Monster has gone so far out of control it is stupid to even listen to the news anymore, all they babble about is money, money, money, and there is no money, taxes, taxes and more taxes, and there is no money. Unless you consider monopoly money worth something, because it's all fake as I can see.
Snowblindinfinity 1 year ago
This guy has it backwards. It isn't the faults of the Old Geezers, it's the pis poor mismanagement of the government for screwing things up.
This video is trying to pit generation against generation!
The management of government is the criminal element here, and none other.
joe80dman 1 year ago
@joe80dman {It isn't the faults of the Old Geezers, it's the pis poor mismanagement of the government for screwing things up.}
Haha. If you take a tiger as a pet, and feed him till he grows big and strong and breaks his chains and starts eating people, eating the whole village -- you want to blame the tiger??
“Government is not reason. It is not eloquence. Government is force; like fire it is a dangerous servant -- and a fearful master.” —George Washington
Get your thumb out of your mouth
mindprism 1 year ago
@mindprism : Alright, smartass. Then lets rebate ALL social security taxes to those people who've paid throughout their lives into a system that was nothing less than an additional income tax.
joe80dman 1 year ago
@joe80dman In a democracy, the people are the govt. So either you deny the democracy or you take responsibility for what you have done.
I think the moral thing to do, firstly, is to stop forcing people to pay into a system that is obviously criminal. THEN, see how much money you have to 'refund' those who have paid in all their lives.
Intergenerational crimes still deserve condemnation.
mindprism 1 year ago
@mindprism : THe word "democracy" appears NOWHERE within the U.S. Constitution. The word "democracy" has been spoon fed to us by media outlets for decades for a desired result. Since when has our government done the will of the People in our democracy anyway? We have an Oligarchy running this country, a bunch of Plutocrats. Their days are numbered, and they're becoming fearful of the angry masses who are out to "string them up" from tree branches.
joe80dman 1 year ago
I really think you hit the buttom here, stef. You can't expect of all people to understand this big machinery that is the state. I know I'm quite intelligent. I work with pretty advanced stuff in my dayly life, boith neural networks, 3 dimensional transformations/matrices, and general math solving tasks. Yet I have NO idea what is going on. I have no idea how a state really works, or how economics function at its base. Be careful not to forget how skewed once expectation of ->
HKragh 1 year ago
what counts as base knowledge becomes, as soon as you get an advanced knowledge yourself. I know how head shakenly mystified I can feel, when someone don't know what a galaxy really is, yet I understand we have to focus our effort at different spots of the knowledge sphere, to ever become good at anything. We can't use ressources to understand it all. And I have allways just figured that my country was in good hands, without having the need to understand it fully.
HKragh 1 year ago
To try to make people think they are somehow personally responsible for what has happend, is just too low. We have no idea what the state is, or what it these big figures and strategies means. And that is not as stupid as forgetting a damn test. Such a bad comparison, it hurts... please, stef...
Btw. my country functions pretty well as a state. So maybe it's not so much the system, as it is parts of the system. The fun part is, the biggest difference between yours and mine country->
HKragh 1 year ago
are the fact that we have state funded health inssourance, and a more controlled economic/business. The very things you despise, are the main reason we function, and the America doesn't. Or maybe it isn't I really don't have a clue about these matters...as already stated...
HKragh 1 year ago
- adn sorry for all the typos and grammar errors. I normally check my posts, but it's too late for that, need to sleep..
HKragh 1 year ago
@HKragh
You ARE responsible for what has happened for as long as you vote.
And your state is NOT functioning pretty well. If it did, you would not even NEED to vote. Why don't you ask voters of the losing parties if they are happy.
You just claim that it's functioning well, but ask all those countrymen who are dissatisfied. What are they dissatisfied with? With the completely logical consequences of STATISM. They just don't know that they are indeed the logical consequences of statism.
tridentmovies 1 year ago
@HKragh
Also. you have no idea what the state is? Then why does Stef know? Why do i know? Do you think we are superhuman or something? Of course not. We are simply willing to learn and think, instead of voting like sheeple and then whining about the results.
Whining about debts, wars, taxes, stupid laws, corruption. It is your OWN fault that you refuse to look at the root of these problems. Nobody needs to hold your hand for you to start asking the right questions.
tridentmovies 1 year ago
LOL, the old folks are F&%$ed, I hate to say it but then again most of those people VOTED for their own demise with these crap criminal politicians who always promised them more, and they bought it! Oh well old folks, have fun eating saltine crackers in your retirement. Im not paying anything to the retirees they can suck rocks.
davids11131113 1 year ago
Hahaha....change!..Together!..was that a little bash on the ESTEEMED MAFIA LORD OF THE UNITED FARMS OF AMERICA!!?
Debatewithme 1 year ago
Shovel all these old fucks into a pit and bury them alive!
savemyplaylist 1 year ago
So what's the solution?
julzylove 1 year ago
My dad wants to know.....
julzylove 1 year ago
This guy has a point.
darrellmellissa 1 year ago
Man, you must have failed that test realll... bad. I think you are arrogant to berate one sector of our society so badly. Every generation has made mistakes and been a product of their upbringing. History continues to repeat itself over and over, this boomer generation is not the only generation to be blind and trusting and apathetic. Its been going on for millenia. Then the shit storm happens and the name calling, blame gets passed around. The good thing is shit storms make us all think.
sallysays0 1 year ago
The Baby Boomers went from being, potentially, one of the greatest generations of all time, to the most disastrous. Every aspect of America's social, economic, and political fiber is broken. Greed and self gratification rule(d). [What? 60 is the new 20? Just how stupid and out of tune is that?]
They should have done us all a favor an spent the last 50 years on one big LSD trip.
yo1dude1man 1 year ago
First of all if voting could change anything it would be illegal, wehave no more power over THEM than the Russians did in the cold war era, thiers a one party system ours a two party system with both parties working for the same crooks.
pwbpeter 1 year ago
Stefan most people are walking zombies even those who cliam to be politically astute.
SuperTwit 1 year ago
Show me the money!
SuperTwit 1 year ago
How do you guys feel about finding jobs out there that pay you under the table to avoid paying taxes? The government is not using our tax money wisely, so is this a good measure for the average person to take to fight a corrupt system? Any thoughts?
HigherPlanes 1 year ago 17
@HigherPlanes If you get caught, you will be thrown in prison for a long time. However, if accepted widely enough, it could work or at least force a change in the tax system and laws. Using a competing currecy is another way of breaking free from government control. However, it is not organized or severe enough yet for most people to try this.
Bristecom 1 year ago 2
@HigherPlanes Jesus! This sounds like what I've been thinking of doing!
SomethingSea1 1 year ago
@SomethingSea1 I pose that question because it's actually one of the only ways that I can think of that lets an average person fight and cripple a corrupt system. Earn money by any means, but by all means don't pay taxes. By definition (in my dictionary) people that pay taxes are crazy.
HigherPlanes 1 year ago
@HigherPlanes "If you get caught, you will be thrown in prison for a long time."
Put a camera in my room, and put a camera in all peoples' rooms. There. Now we have a universal prison. Now we can all work without taxes.
Hell, let's just make the jail cell the standard design for houses, and assign half the population to torture the other half. Global prison system FTW!
And HigherPlanes, agreed. I've been looking to do stuff on the internet, because it's much easier to avoid taxes.
SomethingSea1 1 year ago
@SomethingSea1 "I've been looking to do stuff on the internet, because it's much easier to avoid taxes." Dear non-tax payer; you forget where the Internet came from and whose computers all the pipes run through.
"Put a camera in my room, and put a camera in all peoples' rooms."
If you are here, it's already there.
We see you and we know what you're doing. Have a nice day until the black helicopters arrive.
IsaacBickerstaffEsq 1 year ago
@IsaacBickerstaffEsq Dear closed-minded labler... labels are so useful. Once I put a label on you, I know how to deal with you. I don't need to think about anything. Someone is a criminal? Put them in jail. Someone is an x? Do y. Fun.
"you forget where the Internet came from "
I guess you think Al Gore created it.
SomethingSea1 1 year ago
@IsaacBickerstaffEsq "If you are here, it's already there."
Heh. Right, because the distinction of when it's turned on makes no difference at all. Because community instead of isolation doesn't matter.
SomethingSea1 1 year ago
@IsaacBickerstaffEsq "We see you and we know what you're doing. Have a nice day until the black helicopters arrive."
Cute. And since you're including everybody, I guess everyone will have a helicopter come to their home. That either means a lot of black helicopters, or lots of fuel. And a lot of places to keep the people. Well, I guess now 50% of the population will need to be employed by the government. Yay. Now half the population enslaves the other half. Everyone wins ^_^
SomethingSea1 1 year ago
@HigherPlanes
Great idea. I heartily endorse any strategy by which you keep the fruits of your own labour.
So, AFAIAC, evade and avoid tax. Use the black economy and, most importantly, get yourself out of the PAYE system.
Government will wither without your money. Go for it.
skunkwerksrc 1 year ago
@HigherPlanes That's called agorism, best way to get to anarcho-capitalism in my opinion, and the awesome thing is it's a non-violent solution, no conflict necessary.
N7a7v7i 1 year ago
@HigherPlanes If you want to engage in tax resistance legally (and there are some advantages to doing it legally) you may consider making enough donations to non-profits to reduce your taxable income to the lowest bracket. Of course, the groups you donate to would have to be government-approved. And the amount you get to keep for yourself is still determined by the gov't too... From what I heard it's called the "Don't Owe Nothin' Method".
MstrirSage 1 year ago
Wealthy? I worked and paid taxes for 40 years and all I have to show for it is $1000. per month. Considering my rent is $800. per month it isn't much.
ruthc48 1 year ago
@ruthc48 He is not specifically talking about every person...just as a generation.
jazzyrick 1 year ago
What are you going to do about it, Mr. Smarty Pants?
ruthc48 1 year ago
I admit as an honorable and wise old person that I had no control over the political system. When can I expect my first check?
singlespeak 1 year ago
That was good. I would like to see political whores and banksters lose their heads over this. Don't think we are to civilized to have that happen. People are pissed and want blood.
Stop the wars you filthy joo banker pigs. Or we will put you to rest.
Niacin11 1 year ago
Damn great!
IamaRifle 1 year ago
Here's something for you to mull over: Aren't the young also responsible? We should all know they've blown the money. Anyone old enough to work and vote is equally responsible if they aren't taking action.
thalonelygirl 1 year ago
how did you not roll your eyes when you said "richest generation in the world" lol.
twistedbydsign99 1 year ago
You should see the bullshit pensions that the goverment employees have of the older generation. My older friends are on $60k / year pension until they retire. Wheres my F*ucking $60k per year until I retire because I can't function in my job anymore???? You are so right Stef, How may tax payers have to be to make up these pension?
PlatinumGordon 1 year ago
@HiPointMan *sigh* any "ism" is whatever you behave with respect to. Capitalsm it's respect to capital, anarchism respect to anarchy, communism respect to commune. it's basic etymology.
In russia and China they were TOLD it was communism, what it WAS was totalitarianism, because of a top down structure of control. all behaiour was with respect to Stalin, or Mao(in china). That cannot be communism.
Hitler did not even CLAIM communism. He was a Nazi. It was fascism.
Thank you.
natmanprime 1 year ago
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@natmanprime
Hitler did lay claim to socialism, though. "We are socialists, we are enemies of today’s capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions." - Hitler, 1927
TheCapitalistdog 1 year ago
@TheCapitalistdog yeah but it wasn't socialism, was it? Jews were part of the society. Hitler lied to them. Simple. if you believe it was socialism because hitler SAID it was socialism, you're as bad the people who believed in him.
Any time people believe in a leader to take power over them, they're agreeing to fascism.
No matter what anyone else calls it.
Thank you.
natmanprime 1 year ago
@natmanprime
I didn't say I believed it was socialism, I said he laid claim to socialism.
TheCapitalistdog 1 year ago
@TheCapitalistdog good, well tell that to hi point man
natmanprime 1 year ago
@natmanprime
Actually no, Hitler's Germany was really socialist. His political opposition was the establishement, the right and he came with a "revolutionary" (left) political discourse to which alot of people flocked to.
StrafingMoose 1 year ago
@StrafingMoose except, what did he mean by 'germans'? Some "pure blood" aryan nonsense!
And it's right wing behaviour to go around trying to build an empire, for solely your country's benefit.
Lies. Simple.
natmanprime 1 year ago
@natmanprime
Not really. Building empires is a dream shared by all megalomaniac politicians. Hitler's Germany tried it, Stalin's USSR tried it as well. Hell, even Cuba when they were USSR-sponsored were putting their fingerprints all over Central/South America and even Africa. By the way, the USSR killed way more jews than Hitler ever did.
StrafingMoose 1 year ago
@StrafingMoose well, TheCapitalistdog disagrees with you. I disagree with you.
Hitler was not socialist, regardless of what he said.
He wasn't about the society, multiracial as it was. So he cannot, by definition, be socialist.
He was about RACE. A particular race, and it's dominance over the globe.
The differnence betwwen right and left wing, is that right wing values it's nation above others, and left wing values everyone.
Hence 'right wing behaviour'.
Stalinism/Maoism is NOT communism.
natmanprime 1 year ago
Excellent video, very eloquently stated truth.
SmokinJoeTrainer 1 year ago 10
Why do you have to rub our noses in it? Before going on this philosophic escapade, can we ask exactly where the money went? Was it not used to buy government bonds of some sort? Treasury bills? Are those bonds not there?
There is such a thing as fraud. The fact that the money is gone means that the thief wins? That's just absurd. Secondly, we were told that this was 'insurance', and annuity that we bought. Say what you will, it was never voluntary, it was an extortion.
BugsMr123 1 year ago
The people all have been conditioned young, In the communistic public schooling!
That they can get out of personal disappointment and equality, through the grading process of CURVES . What ever happened to the point scale?
Now we evan have grading for different races!
What is wrong ? The people have grown up accepting they will be taken care of by ( SOMEONE NO personal responsibility) . GREAT VIDEO!
sealhunter5 1 year ago
@sealhunter5 communism is not what you think it is. Communism means "behaving with respect to the commune/community".
The fact that you think it's something else, e.g. Stalinism, Maoism, is propaganda.
natmanprime 1 year ago
@natmanprime BULLSHIT ! You have NO idea What Communism is Like i said you have been spoon feed the garbage to accept it !
I no what it is ! If you are a robot you will love it !
Dont spread that garbage and tell others what it is or where you think you have been implanted the idea!
People are HUMANS and the strong will survive Your idea is that there is no GREED, NO LUST, NO JEALOUSY, All of these traits are parasitic!
COMMUNISM. DONT TELL ME!
sealhunter5 1 year ago
@sealhunter5 *sigh* any "ism" is whatever you behave with respect to. Capitalsm it's respect to capital, anarchism respect to anarchy, communism respect to commune. it's basic etymology.
In russia and China they were TOLD it was communism, what it WAS was totalitarianism, because of a top down structure of control. all behaiour was with respect to Stalin, or Mao(in china). That cannot be communism.
Evolution dictates the fittest will survive, not the strongest. Difference.
Thank you.
natmanprime 1 year ago
@natmanprime Your right the stupid dont listen and the smart ones Already KNOW!
So Obviously you know more then anyone else.
Stupid is what stupid does ! Good luck with your choice!
sealhunter5 1 year ago
@sealhunter5 don't be insecure about it. Opinions about what's intelligent and what isn't intelligent isn't a sure thing, and can change with time, with hindsight.
What's brave is ALWAYS brave. In thought, and in action. Bravery's what counts.
And that's where we are all on a level playing field. No advantages.
It's brave to stay open.
natmanprime 1 year ago
@natmanprime WOW ! That is the exact response for the STUPID to say .
Bravery is not blind! STUPID IS!
sealhunter5 1 year ago
@sealhunter5 I never said bravery was blind.
natmanprime 1 year ago
You talk and talk and talk and say nothing of sustance and just recap the obvious for 9 minutes while offering no real alternatives . You advice is only to "acknowledge acceptance of one's actions" which is only common sense to anybody with an IQ higher than that of a moron. If you want to give advice then layout a program of specific actions.
oldwithgold 1 year ago
@oldwithgold
I would recommend you to learn more about Molyneux' philosophy by watching more of his videos. To understand why other viewpoints isn't that relevant in this video, you need a solid framework of why he (and others) claim the world we live in is malfunctioning.
His videos could still be shorter, its not hard to agree about that. If you read this Stephan, take it into consideration: You should try to make your videos shorter.
Torulv 1 year ago
@Torulv - After experiencing my 70 years on this "blue marble" , I'm well aware of what works and what doesn't work. It is amazing that each generation "thinks" they've discovered some new insight into life and how the world functions. Maybe you should watch some of my financial videos.
oldwithgold 1 year ago
@oldwithgold
I'm certainly trying my best to avoid judging by emotion rather than reason. I know its common to forget and do the opposite when you are young, since the wisdom of experience hasnt grown on me for too long. That is, I'm not a follower of any particular system, for instance like the one stefbot is preaching. Rather I watch and read with curiosity to get insight - as I will watch some of your videos as suggested.
Torulv 1 year ago
@oldwithgold So what if he didn't offer an alternative? What are you like completely ignorant of the fact that this guy has made like thousands of podcasts, has written a couple of books, and has typed up numerous articles on this stuff? It's not like he has to baby step you through ever single aspect of his philosophy every single video.
DaveDoggOwns 1 year ago
@oldwithgold
You're addicted to politicians. You want something already all packaged that you only need to vote for instead of thinking on your own. A type of thinking that clearly ruined your country for a good couple of generations. By saying he just "talks and talks and say nothing of substance" you cleatly have not "acknowledged acceptance of one's actions".
StrafingMoose 1 year ago
90% of americans end up flat broke at age 65 read this stat 25 years ago so nothing new here, Americans great people ,but the country s a sham dictatorship
CORRIGEEN71 1 year ago
Stef, you had some very good points there (as usual), but there's one thing that bugs me. You argue that today's senior citizens funded the government retirement system and therefore should bear the consequenses of government's careless sepnding. I would agree if they invested in the system voluntarily, but we both know better than that. The money is always collected at gunpoint when the government is involved.
Anyway, it'll be interesting to see if anyone takes the offer.
Jouzou87 1 year ago
@Jouzou87 "I would agree if they invested in the system voluntarily, but we both know better than that. The money is always collected at gunpoint when the government is involved."
He made that point in the video. It was the part about accepting they didn't have control over the system...
usmun 1 year ago
Great video
I agree with you Stef, now where can I meet you to collect my check ?
CoWalsh04 1 year ago
No society can thrive, or even survive, by eating its young.
2minuteh8 1 year ago
basically old people need to swallow their pride and accept their ignorance and incompetence! And Above all accept positive change
jystyle 1 year ago
Excellent video! Thank you for posting! RJ
TripperLV 1 year ago
Way to go, Stef! Glad you're back in style! No horseshit statistics and subjective comparisons, but point-blank reality. Peace!
BabyHominid 1 year ago
My wife and I (and our 14month old daughter) LOVE listening to your rational arguments and truths. And often we can hardly wait for the next video post. Although, we would prefer you tone down the rants on sunday mornings :) Make it a family day, go easy on the coffee and lets discus libertarian parenting or something more positive than gloom and doom. Just a suggestion :)
AcupunctureEdu 1 year ago
Well, I just received my second old-age, and second pension, cheques a couple of days ago - I started getting them in July - and hell yes, I agree. I never thought of the government as something I had any part of. I tried taking on schools when I was in school and found out it was just going the wrong way on a one way highway, and governments and schools are just two of the different heads on the same beast. That beast we should breed with some other more amenable one, yes, if possible.
not2tees 1 year ago
Old people, if we`re talking about common people here, are very confused. They have, in many cases, been lead down the road of serfdom contrary to, or at least without, their explicit and clear knowledge of what their leaders, particularly their leaders in education and politics but also in business, have let on.
qtronRobespierre 1 year ago
I have been giving input to the political system, and I have been largely ignored. I also have ideas and speak them and have been largely ignored. Therefore you are correct sir in that I know I have no control over my government, my employer. other people. YET when things go wrong they all come to me, usually for labor or money.
I think the current system is collapsing and we'll just have to make a better one once they're out of the way....
tenagliac 1 year ago
Fuck the old they have ruined society for us they trusted some sleazy pollination
let the suffer like a rat in a snake pit they deserve what they get i hope they suffer
elieakaMrextreme 1 year ago
You hit a painful home run with this one.
ravenmccloud 1 year ago
the obsession with the political system ==> fuck off. Respect for the elderly is not dependent on wether or not the political system in the time of their sheepleness or wadge-slavery was inhumane or immoral or whatever. To argue that the elderly can have your money (labour, assets, healthcare, housing, etc) as a gift is just selfish to the bone. Like you try to score some moral-applause for something as care for the elder. "they" are the "richest" generation? your opinion and ignorance.
sowiesosso 1 year ago
@sowiesosso
Your reply starts with just enough to flag this as something we should ignore. Why should we "fuck off" about the political system ?
StrafingMoose 1 year ago
Just because the government takes from us some amount of $ doesn't mean one should accept government services. Why? Because the exact amounts are muddled; redistribution is part of the larger problem. Just allowing government to keep more money in of itself does nothing, they will just spend it on something else. But the act of openly rejecting services and explaining why, is a powerful tactic for winning minds. And not as dangerous to your health as Civil Disobedience.
batmanthe 1 year ago
Old people need to realize that their pensions are NOT postponed wages, their wages have long since been used to find government services for THEM, not for the currently working generations. They voted to use up their pension money for govt goodies back in their days, when they also paid much lower taxes and had much better economic opportunities. They saved nothing. And now they expect the slaves of the oppressive system they created to work even harder to feed their needy dependent mouths.
jrgenkratz 1 year ago
This is all very relevant for the pension system we have in Sweden, and the retired people seem to be the no.1 hot issue in the upcoming election. I have been saying this for years, how immoral it is for retired people who have been cheering on the social democrats for decades, creating a mandatory public pension system that was looted many times over (with their consent) and then whining about not getting more stolen money from the working youth, that has to pay higher taxes than they ever did.
jrgenkratz 1 year ago
"I THINK we can say that , FOR SURE" sounds like an oxymoron to me.
Myrmecia 1 year ago
@Myrmecia Nope, he said he thinks "we can say" its for sure, not that he thinks it's for sure.
MrRhetorikill 1 year ago
@MrRhetorikill - OK. Fair cop.
Myrmecia 1 year ago
The biggest "advantage" of statism is in allowing people to have no responsibility.
rumco 1 year ago