I actually think calling with KJ is a little worse than shoving K9 there, he has just over 20BBs, if he loses one decent sized pot, he's in the red. Just because he shoved from the BTN doesn't mean KJ has him beat, and even if he does its only a 70 30 at best. Plus there are 2 other players left to act and the limper, if he's table aware, could limp strong hoping one of the shorter stacks will shove.
This shove is fine, but it would be fine, and probably even better, if you were still OOTM also. If anything, just inside the ITM mark you should start slightly tightening your openshoving (or shoving over a limper) range, as the calling ranges of your opponents are opening up a lot.
I agree his call was a little weak but Marty WHY??? fight so hard to make the money and THEN try to play a marginal hand at just time when players are loosening up... If "only" making the money is the difference between a zero and a few dollars and it doesn't matter to you if you bust out, better to do this near the bubble when everybody is (tight) just focused on making their buy in back???
Good point, but for higher buy-in tournaments - not these tournaments. There was a good pot, with a very strong likeliness of me taking it down. Aggressive yes, but 300 more spots to double my money from there!!! Yikes!!!
Marty thanks for the reply, I just watched it again... seems with 3500 players and low buy in there really isn't a bubble to make the money "pocket change" in relation to time at the table, I can see your goal had nothing to do with just making the money,... think I can follow your thinking now!!
Wasn't the greatest play on his part, especially with the cold call. The only problem here is that this guy has the same mentality as you. Since we was a tight aggressive player in profiling, he probably just loosened up in the money and was looking for any opportunity. Since you were red though I think you pretty much made the right play thinking you were going to get called by the limper ahead of you rather than the blinds. He turns over 88 or less or Ax too often.
K9 is a horrible shove
KJ is no better to call a shove from late position
summerlink 2 years ago
Its not great, but with just over 10 BB's he has to make a move sometime. Maybe he could have waited for a better spot but i wouldnt call it horrible
Hybridized 2 years ago
I actually think calling with KJ is a little worse than shoving K9 there, he has just over 20BBs, if he loses one decent sized pot, he's in the red. Just because he shoved from the BTN doesn't mean KJ has him beat, and even if he does its only a 70 30 at best. Plus there are 2 other players left to act and the limper, if he's table aware, could limp strong hoping one of the shorter stacks will shove.
lurgertor 2 years ago
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imaball 2 years ago
where do u download that strategy thing at the bottem that shows how players bet ect
micknaka 2 years ago
Haha, I dont care what u say, but that was the worst all in ever.. u should have just simply folded.. maybe u could have called. but nothing else..
Ingve1234 2 years ago
erm? SHIT! hahahahahah i love it never laughed so hard in my life
ChipGod147 2 years ago
This shove is fine, but it would be fine, and probably even better, if you were still OOTM also. If anything, just inside the ITM mark you should start slightly tightening your openshoving (or shoving over a limper) range, as the calling ranges of your opponents are opening up a lot.
TheIllegit 3 years ago
when he said shit lol
gaud123 3 years ago 4
I'm pretty sure the tournament didnt have 3500 entrants, the chips are way too low for that amount of entrants while in the money
PistolC 3 years ago
Yeah, some tourneys pay out right to 300 places for that many entrants.
Typical of the low buy-ins mass players
nailsforlunch 3 years ago
Marty! I DID IT , my frist tourny MTT WIN 1st place , at pokerstars THANKYOU!! I really owe it to you.
airrick 3 years ago 6
The smallest pot there was on 48 chips, i might have considered waiting for him to go off, but i'd probably do the same. good game
Erlingsaebo 3 years ago
I agree his call was a little weak but Marty WHY??? fight so hard to make the money and THEN try to play a marginal hand at just time when players are loosening up... If "only" making the money is the difference between a zero and a few dollars and it doesn't matter to you if you bust out, better to do this near the bubble when everybody is (tight) just focused on making their buy in back???
scrabbleking1965 3 years ago
Good point, but for higher buy-in tournaments - not these tournaments. There was a good pot, with a very strong likeliness of me taking it down. Aggressive yes, but 300 more spots to double my money from there!!! Yikes!!!
TurtleKnife 3 years ago
Marty thanks for the reply, I just watched it again... seems with 3500 players and low buy in there really isn't a bubble to make the money "pocket change" in relation to time at the table, I can see your goal had nothing to do with just making the money,... think I can follow your thinking now!!
scrabbleking1965 3 years ago
Wasn't the greatest play on his part, especially with the cold call. The only problem here is that this guy has the same mentality as you. Since we was a tight aggressive player in profiling, he probably just loosened up in the money and was looking for any opportunity. Since you were red though I think you pretty much made the right play thinking you were going to get called by the limper ahead of you rather than the blinds. He turns over 88 or less or Ax too often.
cseagles 3 years ago