Me too, I felt really sad and confused at the end. According to wikipedia Pocahontas died at age 21/22.So young!!
I can't imagine how it felt like to change an indian's life and go live in other civilizations in that time. You must be really strong to withstand such a cultural shock!!
@ICHECBasher Yup! APPARENTLY Pocahontas was only 9 when she met John Smith. I have native american friends (100% blood) and there grandparents and relatives told them pocha was only 9! shocking right!
@ICHECBasher Ohyeah! and the girl whose playing Pocha in the movie she was doing an interview and she's like I'm only 14 in real life. & I'm thinking WOAH LOL obv she's older now, but yeah!
Richard von Wagner is one of the greatest German composers ever in history . Regardless of the man's character or who liked him as well, his music is amazing and I get lost in it .
@ryanscottweise "one of the greatest" indeed, along with J.S. Bach. Vorspiel to Rheingold and many other pieces by him are like no other composer i could compare to, utterly unique and memorable, an extraordinary visionary composer. When i saw the opening credits to this film it said music by James Horner ( Titanic etc), somewhat misleading or what.
"Terrence Malick was 62 when he directed this film. Can we use stem cells to knock 40 years off his age? Could we give him a billion dollars to make 20 fifty million dollar films to last through the ages?"
@98bigbutt Thankfully Malick didn't give into the same narrow, politically correct cliches that you indulge in. He realized the story was more complex than that and treated both sides with respect.
@hudson0815 What I love most about both of them is, even though they don't care about CGI, special effects or box office receipts... they still manage to make films that use the best assets that Hollywood can offer them. Terrence Malick always gets the best ensemble casts, but he casts them because of their talent, not star power. Malick and Kubrick have both had incredible special effects in their films, but each effect was used for the sake of art, not to put people in seats. Love them!
@Gargantupimp That was one of Malick's main goals when making the film...to achieve this sort of "universal balancing act" among all elements within the film (physical experience, dialogue, individuality and subjectivity, and nature) so that nothing in particular (e.g. the script) earns excessive attention.
definitely a cut above 98% of modern film. great to see modern cinematography being put to GOOD use instead of wasted on drivel. I watched this film, now I am back to old movies and BBC television dramas lol
Terrence Malick was 62 when he directed this film. Can we use stem cells to knock 40 years off his age? Could we give him a billion dollars to make 20 fifty million dollar films to last through the ages?
@seanwfindley Actually, many filmmakers get better as they age. Malick is one of those. His last 3 films, The Thin Red Line, this one, and The Tree of Life have been amazing.
@GoblinGirl most don't actually, simply because such a high level of creativity is not sustainable, most geniuses do their great work in their early years, Kubrick and and Malick are definitely the exception
@johhn88 Must disagree. Many great filmmakers' later day works are considered their best, like Kurosawa's Ran, Bunuel's The Phantom of Liberty, Bresson's L'argent, and Huston's The Dead.
The Tree of Life is incredible. Malick's last 3 films are brilliant.
On the flip side, Billy Wilder's last film, Buddy Buddy, was terrible. Capra's A Pocketful of Miracles wasn't bad, but wasn't as good as his classics.
@GoblinGirl those are all exceptions, i could list a thousand geniuses who never surpassed their earlier works, Einstein among one of them. There's not a credible person on earth who doesn't think Malick's best work was in the 70's.
People will be revisiting this movie 100 years from now. The music, the majesty, the vibe is simply majestic. Another poster said that this was 4 minutes of perfection and i absolutely agree. the entire movie is like this. Terrence Malick has been working on a film called "the tree of life" and it will be similar in tone to this film. An unvisited, unloved, Stanley Kubrick on Steroids for modern times.
People will be revisiting this movie 100 years from now. The music, the majesty, the vibe is simply majestic. Another poster said that this was 4 minutes of perfection and i absolutely agree. the entire movie is like this. Terrence Malick has been working on a film called "the tree of life" and it will be similar in tone to this film. An unvisited, unloved, Stanley Kubrick on Steroids for modern times.
@erikmartin2 They're not, there aren't any monkeys in North America. They are emulating other animals like deer, wolves, ducks, etc. They act this way because they are from an animist/totem culture. Which is very different from the European world-view, as this film contrasts. It does seem monkey-like, but from another perspective, so does the behaviour of the English.
@plateofshrimp80s .. A well spoken truism! the english, europeans and all capitalist societies do indeed act like simians, the difference is that simians are innocent. We lost our innocence a long time ago....
The American people weren't ready for such a beautiful film like The New World. But Tree of Life is going to blow everyone away. There won't be any way to ignore it. It's going to get America excited about the power of film again.
I love these scenes when its just beautiful music filled with expression and sounds of nature with no dialogue at all. There is so much expression you could gather from the scenery and their faces that the actors don't even need to say anything for you to be able to understand the message.
I love this movie and Terence Malick films, but after watching American Experience: We Shall Remain's 6 episodes... I watch this beautiful sequence and absolutely know that they should have massacred them right when they landed on the shore, to at least slow the eventual spread of this life-killing virus before it eventually spreads its disease throughout the continent and beyond.
There is nothing revisionist about this at all. It is beautiful, but not revisionist. In fact it perpetuates the standard narrative about Pocahontas. The same one that can be found in the Disney cartoon.
@echavez1962 It's revisionist in the sense that it is not historically accurate. There's reality, and then there's this revisionist history which has become the "standard narrative" about Pocahantas which is untrue. I love this movie, but as a history teacher I find it problematic that it perpetuates a beautiful lie about first contact.
@bluecinema you make a good point but i like how you can still like the movie for what it is. Especially a movie like this where the movie itself--cinematography, direction and acting, and the pacing--is great on its own. Same with Braveheart.
@stevo0665 I do love the movie. I feel conflicted about it. Kilcher portrays Pocahantas so well, and humanizes her, but still nothing in this film is factual accurate. It is great "on its own", but by claiming historical events it's not standing on its own, it's perpetuating a dangerous myth.
@echavez1962 It's revisionist in the sense that it is not historically accurate. There's reality, and then there's this revisionist history which has become the "standard narrative" about Pocahantas which is untrue. I love this movie, but as a history teacher I find it problematic that it perpetuates a beautiful lie about first contact.
I'll never forget the FIRST time I saw this opening at the theaters in January 06... I will never be able to experience that "discovery" again haha... oh well. It was amazing. I felt like I was THERE. I love how we see the natives through the water...
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die u bloody heathen savages i bring truth and justice to the savage. better a white man's slave than a minion of satan. the lord will strike u down for ur savagery. smallpox measles cholera from the hand of god.
@mittROMNEY666 Fuck you, you racist peice of shit,you beleive in god well what goes around comes around, someday the europeans treacherous evil deeds towards natives will come back on them. an eye for an eye... fucken hitler wannabe
Question: When Pocahontas and John Rolfe are at the Court of King James 1st, a beautiful, sung, Baroque piece of music is used. It isn't on the CD, I can't find mention of it on the Internet, and I don't see it on Youtube. Does anyone know what the music is?
@marmorkuchen77 Thank you, I actually did look on the imdb website last week, and the early Baroque music that was used in the scene where Pocahontas is at the court of King James 1st isn't listed there. Not all music used in the film is on the CD. With the exception of music written by Ricard Wagner, all music on the CD is modern.
For anyone looking for the exact CD that this Wagner's Vorspiel is off. Just go to Amazon's online website and cut and paste this title in the search box:
You know, I think films are usually not recommended when it comes to having a glimpse into the past. Usually too many inaccuracies. But I think this is an exception. Everything, the textures, manner of speech, behaviour in this film seems so realistic, it's as if Malick had a time travel machine and brought some material home^^
Wrong. John Cabot did not take possession of the land and did not install a colony. He just touched the coast of Newfoundland. French were the first to install a colony ... If for you "to be" in New World is to touch the land like Cabot, then Vikings really discovered Canada in the X century... French were the first to establish a colony in North America.
Wrong. John Cabot did not take possession of the land and installed a colony. He just touched the coast of Newfoundland. French were the first to install a colony ... If for you "to be" in New World is to touch the land like Cabot, then Vikings really discovered Canada in the X century... French were the first to establish a colony in North America.
Wagner's magisterial (there is no other way to describe it) score helped to imbue Malick's epic period piece with the kind of wonder and over-powering awe that we have not seen in cinema since Kubrick's 2001: A Space Odyssey.
From his use of powerful orchestration, to his redefining of an American legend, to his filming practically the entire work in montage, Malick created an original masterwork that has since been almost completely devalued in the cinematic community. A shame.
Well, I got here somehow. Women came later I guess. Actually, women did come on the first voyage to Jamestown. I am not sure which ships exactly, but there were women. Tasty tasty women.
Yeah, the ladies came later in 1618 to Jamestown. My 14th great-grandfather was Nathanniel Powell (1607 Jamestown and 4 trips transatlantic thereafter). I am also a descendent of Wiliam Brewster (1620 Ship Mayflower) and Sir Richard Denton (1622 Ship James - New Amsterdam).
I wish my family still owned The Hamptons. We always sell too early. haha
its about a battle called the Battle of Powder River in witch (i think the british) come in and take the tribes land. but one man stood out to fight against it. his name was crazy horse. he's a well known legend by leading a 300 army of indians in a surprise attack. but later on its said that he was betrayed by his own tribe and he was stabbed in the back. today a man name Korczak Ziółkowski is building a monument in south dakota. its said its bigger then rushmore.
This film isn't a patch on Malick's other movies. The second half is quite strong but the first half is too much. That said, all the Wagner passages are spellbinding.
i can't tell you how happy i am to see that other people love this movie too. there are very few people around me who don't think this movie is a piece of shit.
i haven't seen such a beautiful cinematography in a LONG time. probably will never see it again. this movie is pure poetry and that's why i love it. in my opinion, it's one of the best movies ever :-)
This movie is a phenomenon. Does anyone know if it received any Oscar nominations? THE USE OF WAGNER'S MUSIC IS INSPIRED, and the entire film moved me deeply.
In it's original full lenght release, there already would have been words, and for your comfort, they only add to Malick's poem...
Mrfroufrou09 3 days ago
Didn't like the movie... but this opening scene has stayed with me for years. Just beautiful
danoso0931 3 weeks ago
The American Indians were a lot cleaner than those white settlers.
98bigbutt 1 month ago
very beautifully shot. very poetic.
thedailyblazer 1 month ago 2
Superbe ! Je m'en lasse pas...
erdelloye 1 month ago
You surely can't find movies like this anymore.
I actually saw the whole movie and cried :(
Such a good movie!
NiKKiBSEXCii 1 month ago
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Me too, I felt really sad and confused at the end. According to wikipedia Pocahontas died at age 21/22.So young!!
I can't imagine how it felt like to change an indian's life and go live in other civilizations in that time. You must be really strong to withstand such a cultural shock!!
ICHECBasher 1 month ago
@ICHECBasher Yup! APPARENTLY Pocahontas was only 9 when she met John Smith. I have native american friends (100% blood) and there grandparents and relatives told them pocha was only 9! shocking right!
NiKKiBSEXCii 1 month ago
@ICHECBasher Ohyeah! and the girl whose playing Pocha in the movie she was doing an interview and she's like I'm only 14 in real life. & I'm thinking WOAH LOL obv she's older now, but yeah!
NiKKiBSEXCii 1 month ago
2:15 the natives are like the primates in 2001: A Space Odyssey before the Monolith.
I like the way they move
S2Cents 1 month ago
Richard von Wagner is one of the greatest German composers ever in history . Regardless of the man's character or who liked him as well, his music is amazing and I get lost in it .
ryanscottweise 2 months ago
@ryanscottweise "one of the greatest" indeed, along with J.S. Bach. Vorspiel to Rheingold and many other pieces by him are like no other composer i could compare to, utterly unique and memorable, an extraordinary visionary composer. When i saw the opening credits to this film it said music by James Horner ( Titanic etc), somewhat misleading or what.
permaveg 1 month ago
It wasn't that long ago.....
Thelookoutslookout 2 months ago
Ring Cycle opener for the win!
villa72 2 months ago
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"Terrence Malick was 62 when he directed this film. Can we use stem cells to knock 40 years off his age? Could we give him a billion dollars to make 20 fifty million dollar films to last through the ages?"
SO TRUE!
Best film ever!!
allaulom 3 months ago
When watching scenes like this, i remember there's still someone who can achieve greatness and beauty trough motion art
brunomanuel10 3 months ago in playlist Liked
This movie along with Excalibur is the best conveyance of Richard Wagner's music. Surely, one of the greatest composers to have ever lived.
BeBopDeluxe85 3 months ago
this is honestly the most beautiful film that i have ever seen. it's incredible, in nearly each and every aspect. i was blown away.
harriiyo 4 months ago
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this movie was so fckin bad man waste of bandwidth for this POS on netflix. Fuck you rating system for suggesting this piece of shit!
mmkirby2 4 months ago
@mmkirby2 Pearls before swine.
bornwithoutwarning 4 months ago 2
What led the European nations to come to the Americas was the downfall of Constantinople of 1453 to the Muslim Turks.
98bigbutt 5 months ago
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98bigbutt 5 months ago
BRILLIANT? WAGNER "BRILLIANT"? MA SEI SCEMO?
ramerrez100 5 months ago
ugh I wish I had mp3s of the stuff from the actual soundtrack, not the shit from the version that the studio released as the soundtrack.
zodiacchiller 5 months ago
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98bigbutt 5 months ago
i realized something while watching this movie..
I really like the line "THERE'S SOMETHING I KNOW WHEN I'M WITH YOU THAT I FORGET WHEN YOU'RE NOT WITH ME"...
hmmm...
charisse610 5 months ago
Make way for genocide,diseases,and your way of life to be destroyed you Native people.
98bigbutt 6 months ago
@98bigbutt Get off your soapbox, blowhard. This isn't the movie for you.
bornwithoutwarning 4 months ago
@bornwithoutwarning,What are you talking about,I like this movie too.
98bigbutt 4 months ago
@98bigbutt Thankfully Malick didn't give into the same narrow, politically correct cliches that you indulge in. He realized the story was more complex than that and treated both sides with respect.
bornwithoutwarning 4 months ago
BRILLIANT
alkorkon2007 6 months ago
i remember when i saw this film, i was taking in every second of it.
dvarblo 6 months ago
But WHY did they remove Wes Studi's character from the DVD version!?! I swear he was the best thing in the movie I saw in the theater!!
Axgoodofdunemaul 6 months ago
Up there with Kubrick!!! Brilliant,
TheGalou6 7 months ago 2
Scared to watch the rest in case it's ruined when the words come in. Who needs words?
ecuadorthree 7 months ago 11
Does anyone know which version of vorspiel from das rheingold this is? I'd really love to know, the music is so wonderful!
toocompassionate 8 months ago
@toocompassionate , I think it's this one:
Conductor: Georg Solti
Performer: Claire Watson, Eberhard Wachter, et al.
Orchestra: Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra
400758 7 months ago
@400758 Thank you! :)
toocompassionate 7 months ago
This is one of the most beautiful movies I have ever watched and I absolutely love the music. It continues to amaze me.
toocompassionate 9 months ago 5
This film is a work of art.
designerprons 9 months ago 6
...If only the Bilagáana came to Learn instead of Destroy...
SnowBoardNative 9 months ago
@SnowBoardNative True, but their descendants can learn from the mistakes of their ancestors. Watching Malick's films are a good place to start!
plateofshrimp80s 9 months ago 3
@plateofshrimp80s >> True, I hope All People can learn from what my White Relatives have wrongly done to my Ancestors the Native Americans
SnowBoardNative 9 months ago 2
@SnowBoardNative what a brainwashed nigger lover you are,good sheeple.
virtue08mofo 1 month ago
here comes the gringos to ruin everything...
JFGB87 10 months ago
here comes the gringos to ruin everything...
JFGB87 10 months ago
i like the sounds of nature--better- birds,waves o shore-etc
lmollot 10 months ago
Thanks you for stating what the music is, it's beautiful!
glyderau 10 months ago
ffs i always keep getting back to this film..i dont know why but there is something appealing xD
suljaga123333 10 months ago
Pocahontas as Rhinemaiden.
It works!
ChopstickBrando 11 months ago
@ChopstickBrando Who is Wotan?
historygenius 11 months ago
@historygenius Big Valhalla Pimp of all the Rhinemaidens
ChopstickBrando 10 months ago
@ChopstickBrando lol, I don't remember there being a character like that in The New World!
historygenius 10 months ago
@historygenius Woulda been one if they'd tapped me for the screenwriting...
ChopstickBrando 10 months ago
@ChopstickBrando lololol!
historygenius 10 months ago
Terence Malick is the only one that comes close to Kubrick. He regards cinema as art and doesn't care about the friggin box-office or the latest cgi.
hudson0815 1 year ago 16
@hudson0815 What I love most about both of them is, even though they don't care about CGI, special effects or box office receipts... they still manage to make films that use the best assets that Hollywood can offer them. Terrence Malick always gets the best ensemble casts, but he casts them because of their talent, not star power. Malick and Kubrick have both had incredible special effects in their films, but each effect was used for the sake of art, not to put people in seats. Love them!
PlatypiFilmsIntl 1 year ago
@PlatypiFilmsIntl I agree with everything you just said.
tisbutafleshwound 11 months ago
@PlatypiFilmsIntl To bad the script kind of sucked and lacked oomph
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@Gargantupimp That was one of Malick's main goals when making the film...to achieve this sort of "universal balancing act" among all elements within the film (physical experience, dialogue, individuality and subjectivity, and nature) so that nothing in particular (e.g. the script) earns excessive attention.
nodoubtvv 10 months ago
@hudson0815
bollox
ph03n1xamb1t 2 days ago
definitely a cut above 98% of modern film. great to see modern cinematography being put to GOOD use instead of wasted on drivel. I watched this film, now I am back to old movies and BBC television dramas lol
ShawDAMAN 1 year ago
vote up if your listening to this cause of the levis commercial!
SWHAUSER94 1 year ago
@SWHAUSER94 not really but the levis commercials were great
FManAngryAmerican 11 months ago
sorry its almost imposible to find a true pristine environment that existed before the white man came
rockynanach 1 year ago
The three vessels, The Susan Constant, The Godspeed, and The Discovery. Those ships were actual recreations that Malik was able to use for the movie
patgarrett5755 1 year ago
An incredibly beautiful movie. The cinematography and music score of the film takes it to a whole different level. My jaw drops each time I see this.
BohemianAsh 1 year ago
what a scene
billytrack 1 year ago
Terrence Malick was 62 when he directed this film. Can we use stem cells to knock 40 years off his age? Could we give him a billion dollars to make 20 fifty million dollar films to last through the ages?
seanwfindley 1 year ago 61
@seanwfindley Actually, many filmmakers get better as they age. Malick is one of those. His last 3 films, The Thin Red Line, this one, and The Tree of Life have been amazing.
GoblinGirl 3 months ago 2
@GoblinGirl most don't actually, simply because such a high level of creativity is not sustainable, most geniuses do their great work in their early years, Kubrick and and Malick are definitely the exception
johhn88 2 months ago
@johhn88 Must disagree. Many great filmmakers' later day works are considered their best, like Kurosawa's Ran, Bunuel's The Phantom of Liberty, Bresson's L'argent, and Huston's The Dead.
The Tree of Life is incredible. Malick's last 3 films are brilliant.
On the flip side, Billy Wilder's last film, Buddy Buddy, was terrible. Capra's A Pocketful of Miracles wasn't bad, but wasn't as good as his classics.
GoblinGirl 2 months ago
@GoblinGirl those are all exceptions, i could list a thousand geniuses who never surpassed their earlier works, Einstein among one of them. There's not a credible person on earth who doesn't think Malick's best work was in the 70's.
johhn88 2 months ago
@johhn88 what is a "credible person"? (I want to get a handy short-hand def of this for future references when I argue w/ people)
S2Cents 2 months ago
@S2Cents what is a "great" filmaker, what is "incredible", what is "brilliant", what is "terrible" what is "bad"
For future reference.
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People will be revisiting this movie 100 years from now. The music, the majesty, the vibe is simply majestic. Another poster said that this was 4 minutes of perfection and i absolutely agree. the entire movie is like this. Terrence Malick has been working on a film called "the tree of life" and it will be similar in tone to this film. An unvisited, unloved, Stanley Kubrick on Steroids for modern times.
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People will be revisiting this movie 100 years from now. The music, the majesty, the vibe is simply majestic. Another poster said that this was 4 minutes of perfection and i absolutely agree. the entire movie is like this. Terrence Malick has been working on a film called "the tree of life" and it will be similar in tone to this film. An unvisited, unloved, Stanley Kubrick on Steroids for modern times.
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seanwfindley 1 year ago
Terrence Malick is the greatest living director. This video is 4 minutes of perfection proving why.
swordsandsandals1 1 year ago
Why are the indians acting like monkeys?
erikmartin2 1 year ago
@erikmartin2 They're not, there aren't any monkeys in North America. They are emulating other animals like deer, wolves, ducks, etc. They act this way because they are from an animist/totem culture. Which is very different from the European world-view, as this film contrasts. It does seem monkey-like, but from another perspective, so does the behaviour of the English.
plateofshrimp80s 1 year ago 2
@plateofshrimp80s .. A well spoken truism! the english, europeans and all capitalist societies do indeed act like simians, the difference is that simians are innocent. We lost our innocence a long time ago....
vaitefoderotario 1 year ago
Terrence Malick is just undescribable
sixamsedna 1 year ago
For an Irish guy,Colin Farrell looks like a Spaniard.
98bigbutt 1 year ago
The American people weren't ready for such a beautiful film like The New World. But Tree of Life is going to blow everyone away. There won't be any way to ignore it. It's going to get America excited about the power of film again.
WhiteAbenaki 1 year ago
A transformative experience.
HanzSygnal 1 year ago
I love these scenes when its just beautiful music filled with expression and sounds of nature with no dialogue at all. There is so much expression you could gather from the scenery and their faces that the actors don't even need to say anything for you to be able to understand the message.
vanillaheart 1 year ago 37
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everyone vote vanillaheart's post thumbs up - he nails the sentiments just right
sixamsedna 1 year ago
@sixamsedna lol I'm a girl. But thanks!
vanillaheart 1 year ago
@vanillaheart best re-enactment of American History EVER! Felt like a real scene, with nature and humans..
sp4eva1 10 months ago
every body must know that this idea is by Herzog's docu wings of hope (watch on you tube)!
dimondi 1 year ago
I love this movie and Terence Malick films, but after watching American Experience: We Shall Remain's 6 episodes... I watch this beautiful sequence and absolutely know that they should have massacred them right when they landed on the shore, to at least slow the eventual spread of this life-killing virus before it eventually spreads its disease throughout the continent and beyond.
Tothe2012 1 year ago
Awesome clip!! You should have made this 4:07, then the opening and closing scenes of this magical movie would be even more synchronized! :)
BMC273 1 year ago
wagner !
blackappleseed 1 year ago
Can you imagine crossing the ATLANTIC?? In these ships?? Fucken A, Real Men Indeed!
sobe9ball 1 year ago 4
what great times, a whole new world to explore
Wittmann73 1 year ago 2
@Wittmann73
the irony of your comment is incredibly funny after watching American Experience: We Shall Remain
Tothe2012 1 year ago
Wow it is so incredible ....
Maybe it is my favorite movie scene. The harmony between music and movie is so perfect !!
JulietteGlorfinn 1 year ago 2
One of the greatest scenes in modern movie history.
fasteddiejs 1 year ago
There is nothing revisionist about this at all. It is beautiful, but not revisionist. In fact it perpetuates the standard narrative about Pocahontas. The same one that can be found in the Disney cartoon.
echavez1962 1 year ago
@echavez1962 It's revisionist in the sense that it is not historically accurate. There's reality, and then there's this revisionist history which has become the "standard narrative" about Pocahantas which is untrue. I love this movie, but as a history teacher I find it problematic that it perpetuates a beautiful lie about first contact.
bluecinema 1 year ago
@bluecinema you make a good point but i like how you can still like the movie for what it is. Especially a movie like this where the movie itself--cinematography, direction and acting, and the pacing--is great on its own. Same with Braveheart.
stevo0665 1 year ago
@stevo0665 I do love the movie. I feel conflicted about it. Kilcher portrays Pocahantas so well, and humanizes her, but still nothing in this film is factual accurate. It is great "on its own", but by claiming historical events it's not standing on its own, it's perpetuating a dangerous myth.
bluecinema 1 year ago 3
@bluecinema well said.... but at least it's a big step up in accuracy from the disney film lol.
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@echavez1962 It's revisionist in the sense that it is not historically accurate. There's reality, and then there's this revisionist history which has become the "standard narrative" about Pocahantas which is untrue. I love this movie, but as a history teacher I find it problematic that it perpetuates a beautiful lie about first contact.
bluecinema 1 year ago
One of the greatest films and so many people have never heard of it or seen it.
Drewmachine 1 year ago
I'll never forget the FIRST time I saw this opening at the theaters in January 06... I will never be able to experience that "discovery" again haha... oh well. It was amazing. I felt like I was THERE. I love how we see the natives through the water...
sp4eva1 1 year ago
Among the finest amalgams of music, cinematography, story telling and Historical revisionism that I've encountered.
n00bfuckup 1 year ago
perfect marriage of film and music
trapzee 1 year ago
best film of the last decade
hemorrhoidprime 1 year ago 4
Horrible movie but great score and cinemetography
gaguy1967 1 year ago
I wish theat they could atleast play tribal music.
mahogonywhisper 1 year ago
They were British in this movie not Spaniards,fillfucker.
98bigbutt 1 year ago
spanniards were a band of thieves and rapers,fuck them
fillfucker 1 year ago 2
@fillfucker Im Ecuadorian and I have spanish blood and so fuck you apache
WolverineOrigins09 1 year ago
I love this piece.
OmgitsNeens 1 year ago
I can never get over the beauty of this film.
RandomNess522 1 year ago
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die u bloody heathen savages i bring truth and justice to the savage. better a white man's slave than a minion of satan. the lord will strike u down for ur savagery. smallpox measles cholera from the hand of god.
mittROMNEY666 1 year ago
@mittROMNEY666 Fuck you, you racist peice of shit,you beleive in god well what goes around comes around, someday the europeans treacherous evil deeds towards natives will come back on them. an eye for an eye... fucken hitler wannabe
WanderingCree 1 year ago
@mittROMNEY666 fuck you faggot
WanderingCree 1 year ago
best part of the movie right here.
IcyScythe 1 year ago
Question: When Pocahontas and John Rolfe are at the Court of King James 1st, a beautiful, sung, Baroque piece of music is used. It isn't on the CD, I can't find mention of it on the Internet, and I don't see it on Youtube. Does anyone know what the music is?
lichtbroeder 1 year ago
@lichtbroeder check out the "soundtrack listing" on the imdb-website
marmorkuchen77 1 year ago
@marmorkuchen77 Thank you, I actually did look on the imdb website last week, and the early Baroque music that was used in the scene where Pocahontas is at the court of King James 1st isn't listed there. Not all music used in the film is on the CD. With the exception of music written by Ricard Wagner, all music on the CD is modern.
lichtbroeder 1 year ago
OMG, the editing, cinematography, and music choice just blows me away.
wonderingheights 1 year ago 2
In this movie there is a song from Mozart, which I think is really beautiful, but I can't find it! Can someone help me out?
lynxyn 1 year ago
@lynxyn Piano Concerto No. 23
feelingpeanuty 1 year ago
"We'll kill ourselves an Injun, or maybe two or three! For Glory, God, and Gold and The Virginia Company..."
Wushu17 1 year ago
For anyone looking for the exact CD that this Wagner's Vorspiel is off. Just go to Amazon's online website and cut and paste this title in the search box:
Wagner: Der Ring: An Orchestral Adventure
showvd142 1 year ago
I actually (kind of) know the girl who plays Pocahontas in this. Her younger brother was in a short comedy film I did last year.
CeruleanFilms 1 year ago
You know, I think films are usually not recommended when it comes to having a glimpse into the past. Usually too many inaccuracies. But I think this is an exception. Everything, the textures, manner of speech, behaviour in this film seems so realistic, it's as if Malick had a time travel machine and brought some material home^^
hudson0815 1 year ago 6
Does anyone know which recording of Wagner's Vorspiel this is?
bentuller 1 year ago
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Wrong. John Cabot did not take possession of the land and did not install a colony. He just touched the coast of Newfoundland. French were the first to install a colony ... If for you "to be" in New World is to touch the land like Cabot, then Vikings really discovered Canada in the X century... French were the first to establish a colony in North America.
Markooo1986 1 year ago 2
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We are the ones who have given so much to this world.
We are the ones who have touched this planet like no others.
We are the ones who have so much of which to be proud.
Walk on. Stand tall...
We are the English!
The darkest hour is the one before dawn breaks. LONG LIVE OUR BELOVED ENGLAND!
ADZ01982 1 year ago
French were in Canada before English in 1534 (Jacques Cartier).
Markooo1986 1 year ago
Wrong. John Cabot 1497 ( Englishman)
ADZ01982 1 year ago
Wrong. John Cabot did not take possession of the land and installed a colony. He just touched the coast of Newfoundland. French were the first to install a colony ... If for you "to be" in New World is to touch the land like Cabot, then Vikings really discovered Canada in the X century... French were the first to establish a colony in North America.
Markooo1986 1 year ago
An Englishman, Giovanni Caboto, from Venice ?
LeCheikh 1 year ago
@ADZ01982 and now we can wipe you all of the face of the earth.
dyckmanhustla05 1 year ago
Perhaps you should think about wiping the shit coming out of your mouth first ...
ADZ01982 1 year ago
Wagner's magisterial (there is no other way to describe it) score helped to imbue Malick's epic period piece with the kind of wonder and over-powering awe that we have not seen in cinema since Kubrick's 2001: A Space Odyssey.
From his use of powerful orchestration, to his redefining of an American legend, to his filming practically the entire work in montage, Malick created an original masterwork that has since been almost completely devalued in the cinematic community. A shame.
MarkWF5485 1 year ago 6
Brilliant comment, and I agree.
G3SM 1 year ago
My family landed on the ship Susan Constant. The two other ships were the Discovery and the Godspeed.
Brave souls! Proud to be a 14th generation American.
IrishLincoln 2 years ago 5
thats very cool, but there were no women on that ship.
karkelkhan 1 year ago
Well, I got here somehow. Women came later I guess. Actually, women did come on the first voyage to Jamestown. I am not sure which ships exactly, but there were women. Tasty tasty women.
IrishLincoln 1 year ago
Yeah, the ladies came later in 1618 to Jamestown. My 14th great-grandfather was Nathanniel Powell (1607 Jamestown and 4 trips transatlantic thereafter). I am also a descendent of Wiliam Brewster (1620 Ship Mayflower) and Sir Richard Denton (1622 Ship James - New Amsterdam).
I wish my family still owned The Hamptons. We always sell too early. haha
IrishLincoln 1 year ago
finally i find this song! the part in the movie where this song plays really touched me.
xomfgxitsxaquax 2 years ago
it's called Vorspiel by Richard Wagner
joliecide 2 years ago
yeah i know, ive just found it ive bin lookin for years, cant believe it. the most emotional and hair standin on neck music ever!!!
earbud83 1 year ago
This piece of music reminds me of gathering wind.
RasJeremiah 2 years ago 2
Beautiful underrated movie.
Christianjam126 2 years ago 65
@Christianjam126 YES!!! Thank you!!! This movie should've won awards. (and if it did, awesome)
wonderingheights 1 year ago
Malick is terrific at capturing a sense of awe, this film is a symphony of light.
The relationships (however inaccurate), are portrayed without bludgeoning the audience with a sense of who each character is inside.
Only Hertzog has used Wagner so well.
choppedlogic 2 years ago 6
Absolutely. Herzog and Malick were made for Wagner soundtracks.
jymdavis 2 years ago 2
@jymdavis I like this statement.
krazie835 2 years ago
The music and cinematography make this movie! Awesome.
gettysburgguy 2 years ago 31
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I'm related to Crazy Horse and many more famous Chiefs
This movie gets me lost, I love Pocahontas but then again they should of made this movie more interesting....
I know about Crazy Horse's death him and Sitting Bull were both betrayed by their own Tribe and I hate those people
Ridger90 2 years ago
beautiful music vorspiel by wagner
whysoserious1979 2 years ago 5
This scene - it's tops in the movie. Well done.
jonanjello 2 years ago 7
I'm still a lil lost..I've watched it over and over and over and over and over again and I still am lost...like completely
But it's a good film
Ridger90 2 years ago 2
its about a battle called the Battle of Powder River in witch (i think the british) come in and take the tribes land. but one man stood out to fight against it. his name was crazy horse. he's a well known legend by leading a 300 army of indians in a surprise attack. but later on its said that he was betrayed by his own tribe and he was stabbed in the back. today a man name Korczak Ziółkowski is building a monument in south dakota. its said its bigger then rushmore.
ubflash1 2 years ago 2
Sometimes it's good to be lost.
pathoftruth1 2 years ago
Malick is one of the few cinematic poets working today, every new film is like a gift from god
toddgreer 2 years ago 9
I fell in love with this movie,great music greatly done.
howcomecattleman 2 years ago 5
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Music is amazing.
Main chick is ugly.
IcyScythe 2 years ago
Master piece.
From France.
AttackTheGasStation1 2 years ago 6
an exceptional film..beautifully made.
lesialyls 2 years ago 6
This film isn't a patch on Malick's other movies. The second half is quite strong but the first half is too much. That said, all the Wagner passages are spellbinding.
TulseLuper 2 years ago
this movie truly is a phenomenon :-) i hope tree of life will be as good as this one.
the cast did an outstanding job! this is just amazing..
cloudyskies15 2 years ago 4
i can't tell you how happy i am to see that other people love this movie too. there are very few people around me who don't think this movie is a piece of shit.
i haven't seen such a beautiful cinematography in a LONG time. probably will never see it again. this movie is pure poetry and that's why i love it. in my opinion, it's one of the best movies ever :-)
cloudyskies15 2 years ago 9
This movie is a phenomenon. Does anyone know if it received any Oscar nominations? THE USE OF WAGNER'S MUSIC IS INSPIRED, and the entire film moved me deeply.
billyguns2 2 years ago 8