the proof is coming to light,the haters of Islam will be angered b/c they can't disprove the Quran.Even these ppl commenting can't refute it.This is why they continue to try,then in failure,as we see,they say that the book is copied.Then when their scientist prove the Quran is correct this angers the heathens more,they say we muslims are the only ones believing yet european scholars & scientists are showing muhammad was right.we muslims laugh at the unbelievers a they are being shown up.
Those who comments, please don't let your emotions control your way of thinking, take a deep breath and clear your mind of any biased and baseless thinkings and try to accept what the man is saying. Use your logic and critical thinking and reflect on what he said, isn't that how normal human beings use their minds?
@MurderInsect That is, in this case, we should take into account that all books we know the origin of are written by humans. We should take into account that "science" amounts to nothing more than observing nature. This could be done just as easily 1400 years ago. We should also keep in mind that the vaguer the claims, the easier it is to make the kinds of connections made in this video.
@MurderInsect Those of us who have read Tabari can also take into account that we know that the cosmology in the Qur'an is a geocentric, flat earth+skydome view of reality. Mohammed clearly interpreted it this way, and he even claimed to have been in heaven.
Because of this, the motivation to accept that the author of the Qur'an needs to be omniscient is zip. Any matches with reality can be easily explained by people in 700AD being far from ignorant.
@MurderInsect However, it's also clear that much of the "science in the Qur'an" crowd are making downright laughable claims where they have to torture in embarrassing interpretations as well as doing downright revisionist interpretation to be able to make their claims. This stuff impresses nobody but muslims who are particularly lacking in brainpower.
If something creates him,,, so he is not a creator of all,,, but he is a creation. Becoz none can create him,,, than he is the supreme creator (god) of all, now u see, that is why u only believe Allah if u r intelligent enough. So please others read quran and find the miracle ur self because the only book that still uncorrupted by human is quran,,, beside bible and torah have been changed by human, and they will receive their punishment
@bvsandman and all who don't believe god,,,, ur question is expired means that u r expired too. U said ur self that god is "creator of everything" so,,, that is why he is a creator (god) of all, if something ab
Islam is a politically motivated hate group. Just as, if not more, evil than National Socialism. The Burka is a symbol of Hate and there are no redeeeeming qualities asscoiated with this "religion" whatsoever. It is a JOKE.
There was nothing at first, and the people say the Big Bang happened cause of other things, so you're saying "nothing came from nothing" in essence. I am christian but I don't denounce other religions I think our gods are just named differently, we believe in the same thing. Not every christian goes to the fact of "Near death experiences are proof" but when you hear this how many say nothing happened, I havnt heard one case. Sorry athiests hope you like fire. God bless and Amen
@bvsandman okay.. so according to you god created everything.. there is a creator. everything is created by the creator..so my question is who created god??who gave him brain to think??or how does he think??who gave him his powers???whr he comes frm???who created god???he must have begin at some point of time right???there should be a start to god at somepoint..how "GOD" happend?????
rational conclusion...i am really sorry for your stubborness or whatever u call that...how can u still speak after what is seen and heard from the video? arent u afraid to appear or be taken as a fool? May Allah guide you to his path.....Salam/Peace be upon you
This was funny because it didn't make any sense. The Quran does not contain any scientific knowledge, and anything you can cherrypick you can only pick after science has already found out. Stop desperately looking for merit in your primitive, medieval book.
@TehNetherlands i read it and i did found the context geology, it does mentions about the mountains, babies and etc, sciencetist use quran to discover more things, so stop babbling about something you dont know
@idrismetalcore No they DON'T. Theologeans attempt te reinterpret its medieval verses over and over in light of new discoveries made by actual scientists. If you had even the slightest idea of what science is all about, you wouldn't have made such an uneducated comment.
@TehNetherlands ya its because this is your first video explanation in your life, i came across articles, beside who would be scientisit in the years 600 ac, name it , or times before christ , name it with proof,
did u read it? or u r just gissing? THE BOOK STARTS WITH THIS ** THIS BOOK HAS NO ERROR** if u see one just show it.. PROV that this book is false if u can... u will try i know!
The quran does not contain any scientific information. It just contains vague pieces of writing that believers interpret as scientific information. When something is vague you can pretty much make it say whatever you want it to say.
@RationalConclusion I agree with you mate, in the fact most fortune tellers soothsayers etc employ this method. However, the Quran is very clear on some subjects (eg The barrier between two different type of water and description of the stages of thehuman embryo + more) and some facts are only just being discovered. What you got to ask yourself why an iliterate person fabricate anything, that did not profit him in any sense. You might also want to read up on the cruelty he was subjected to.
@adromasknilnil99 You may well believe that the quran contains scientific information but that's simply your interpretation it. The truth is that the quran does not say anything scientific. It contains no clear, detailed or explanative scientific information whatsoever. This so called "scientific information" is just short, vague pieces of ancient writing which believers like to interpret as scientific information.
After reading about those, learn about logical fallacies (e.g. presupposing the conclusion), read an article on Nostradamus and Urban Legends which will explain how vague language can be interpreted to mean anything you want it to mean, then learn about the psychology of religion (particularly confirmation bias). That should give you an understanding of some of the various problems of this video.
All the examples he gives... like the mountains being rooted. Well what would people think in 600ad? that mountains got up and walked around? These are ambigious examples that appear obvious only to those who are looking for verification of what they already believe.
@TheIslammiracle You know that you were born, grew and are living without any imput from yourself. You have all the means to sustainance (food, water, air, shelter). In you, you have one of the most complex machinery, computer and conscience. You have environment that is tuned to phenomenal accuracy to allow life to exist.. You have weather, the sun, the skies, the land that controls yours and everybody elses fate. Yet you believe it to be a coincidence and an accident. Yet you dont believe
@adromasknilnil99 I urge you to learn about evolution through natural selection. It explains the complexity and diversity of life and provides an answer to the so called "fine tuning" argument.
@RationalConclusion speaking about natural selection ! sir how come we stopped as humans in the evolution cycle? so from monkeys poooof we are humans and from then we still humans? if you think evolution is the thing! how come our prophet peace be upon him , Muhamed an illiterate would know how humans are formed in the womb? how does astronomy work?
@dicaprio20us We didn't simply "poooof" from "monkeys". Humans gradually evolved from a lower species of ape. This process has taken millions of years.
The quran says nothing about how embryos form in the womb. The quran contains many vague pieces of writing which some like to interpret as scientific knowledge but it isn't. It's just vague pieces of ancient text.
@dicaprio20us "All scientists" don't revert. In fact, there is a very high correlation between education in the physical sciences and atheism. In surveys of the academic elites - Nobel prize winners and members of the National Academy of Sciences you are looking at well over 90% atheists and it is still rising. The few that believe in gods are mostly deists. Nobody are impressed with the Qur'an. The guy in this video was probably paid, as his views are not representative of reality.
@RationalConclusion WRONG. we never evolved we have always been humans fool. even your athiets dumbbies say before the big bang there was nothing now im asking
@RationalConclusion LOL. hmm let me ask you people if there was nothing before the big bang HOW ALL OF A SUDDEN DID THE EARTH FORM. NOTHING COMES FROM NOTHING. if it could then make some thing pop up in front of you.
well im sorry but evolution has no proof just a sad little faith wich used scince to back it up but it cant even do that properly.
the most simple questions you people avert from and start talking noncence. goodbye.
@edlgotbanged I have never said that the universe came from nothing and that's not what the big bang theory says either. What I'm saying is that there's no reason to believe that the universe was created by a god or that a god exists.
Evolution is a fact. I suggest you educate yourself on the subject.
@RationalConclusion no honestly your to arrgoant to accept it. so tell me why is scince only finding things now that the Quran spoke about 1,400 years ago.
even you dummies know everything in the universe is perfect HOW? JUST RANDOM CHANCE hmmmm i think not stop being arrogant thinking you are more clever then people who belive in god. fool.
@edlgotbanged The quran does not contain any scientific information. It simply contains various verses that believers like to interpret as scientific information.
Evolution is not something which works by "random chance". Evolution is guided by natural selection.
I encourage you to start reading books other than the quran.
@RationalConclusion and no scince. LOL ok by that statment i can tell you are to arrogant. you just cba to pray. you feed your body what it needs but what about your soul ? hmmm
atheism = materalism society. basically becuase you people work for things in this life you live for this life. so love this dunya all you want but one day you will die.
why cant you people produce me my finger to the exact same if i chopped it of ? hmm
@edlgotbanged There's no reason to believe that prayer works or that souls exist.
Atheism is the lack of belief in god. As an atheist I do live for this life because there's no reason to believe that there's anything after we're dead. I suggest you do the same.
Fingers and ants are not man made things. They are a product of evolution through natural selection.
@dicaprio20us As for your claim that Mohammed was an illiterate - that's a muslim myth that we really have no reason to believe. It's clear that he must have been well educated due to the station of his first wife.
@dicaprio20us The statements the Qur'an make about embryology were most likely what passed as common knowledge at the time. There are alternative embryologies from Galen, Hippocrates and others 1000 years older than Mohammed that also are fairly close to Qur'anic claims. Note that this doesn't say much, because the Qur'anic claims are wrong, claiming embryos are clots of blood at a time when no blood cells exist, and near meaningless, describing it as "something chewed" at other points.
the proof is coming to light,the haters of Islam will be angered b/c they can't disprove the Quran.Even these ppl commenting can't refute it.This is why they continue to try,then in failure,as we see,they say that the book is copied.Then when their scientist prove the Quran is correct this angers the heathens more,they say we muslims are the only ones believing yet european scholars & scientists are showing muhammad was right.we muslims laugh at the unbelievers a they are being shown up.
mrdedat1 1 month ago
Those who comments, please don't let your emotions control your way of thinking, take a deep breath and clear your mind of any biased and baseless thinkings and try to accept what the man is saying. Use your logic and critical thinking and reflect on what he said, isn't that how normal human beings use their minds?
MurderInsect 2 months ago
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@MurderInsect "take a deep breath and clear your mind of any biased and baseless thinkings and try to accept what the man is saying."
o_O How on earth is "trying to accept what the man is saying" not being biased towards accepting his statements as true?
"Use your logic and critical thinking and reflect on what he said, isn't that how normal human beings use their minds?"
That part makes sense, but you should always have a reality bias in your evaluation of claims.
Gnomefro 1 month ago
@MurderInsect That is, in this case, we should take into account that all books we know the origin of are written by humans. We should take into account that "science" amounts to nothing more than observing nature. This could be done just as easily 1400 years ago. We should also keep in mind that the vaguer the claims, the easier it is to make the kinds of connections made in this video.
Gnomefro 1 month ago
@MurderInsect Those of us who have read Tabari can also take into account that we know that the cosmology in the Qur'an is a geocentric, flat earth+skydome view of reality. Mohammed clearly interpreted it this way, and he even claimed to have been in heaven.
Because of this, the motivation to accept that the author of the Qur'an needs to be omniscient is zip. Any matches with reality can be easily explained by people in 700AD being far from ignorant.
Gnomefro 1 month ago
@MurderInsect However, it's also clear that much of the "science in the Qur'an" crowd are making downright laughable claims where they have to torture in embarrassing interpretations as well as doing downright revisionist interpretation to be able to make their claims. This stuff impresses nobody but muslims who are particularly lacking in brainpower.
Gnomefro 1 month ago
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MurderInsect 2 months ago
Wow. Was I silenced :)))
qwer4o 2 months ago
If something creates him,,, so he is not a creator of all,,, but he is a creation. Becoz none can create him,,, than he is the supreme creator (god) of all, now u see, that is why u only believe Allah if u r intelligent enough. So please others read quran and find the miracle ur self because the only book that still uncorrupted by human is quran,,, beside bible and torah have been changed by human, and they will receive their punishment
sammyluv85 6 months ago
@bvsandman and all who don't believe god,,,, ur question is expired means that u r expired too. U said ur self that god is "creator of everything" so,,, that is why he is a creator (god) of all, if something ab
sammyluv85 6 months ago
Islam is a politically motivated hate group. Just as, if not more, evil than National Socialism. The Burka is a symbol of Hate and there are no redeeeeming qualities asscoiated with this "religion" whatsoever. It is a JOKE.
mucephi1 8 months ago
There was nothing at first, and the people say the Big Bang happened cause of other things, so you're saying "nothing came from nothing" in essence. I am christian but I don't denounce other religions I think our gods are just named differently, we believe in the same thing. Not every christian goes to the fact of "Near death experiences are proof" but when you hear this how many say nothing happened, I havnt heard one case. Sorry athiests hope you like fire. God bless and Amen
bvsandman 1 year ago
@bvsandman okay.. so according to you god created everything.. there is a creator. everything is created by the creator..so my question is who created god??who gave him brain to think??or how does he think??who gave him his powers???whr he comes frm???who created god???he must have begin at some point of time right???there should be a start to god at somepoint..how "GOD" happend?????
chinamanspeakenlis 9 months ago
rational conclusion...i am really sorry for your stubborness or whatever u call that...how can u still speak after what is seen and heard from the video? arent u afraid to appear or be taken as a fool? May Allah guide you to his path.....Salam/Peace be upon you
aijutsu 1 year ago
This was funny because it didn't make any sense. The Quran does not contain any scientific knowledge, and anything you can cherrypick you can only pick after science has already found out. Stop desperately looking for merit in your primitive, medieval book.
TehNetherlands 1 year ago 10
@TehNetherlands i read it and i did found the context geology, it does mentions about the mountains, babies and etc, sciencetist use quran to discover more things, so stop babbling about something you dont know
idrismetalcore 6 months ago
@idrismetalcore No they DON'T. Theologeans attempt te reinterpret its medieval verses over and over in light of new discoveries made by actual scientists. If you had even the slightest idea of what science is all about, you wouldn't have made such an uneducated comment.
TehNetherlands 6 months ago
@TehNetherlands ya its because this is your first video explanation in your life, i came across articles, beside who would be scientisit in the years 600 ac, name it , or times before christ , name it with proof,
idrismetalcore 6 months ago
did u read it? or u r just gissing? THE BOOK STARTS WITH THIS ** THIS BOOK HAS NO ERROR** if u see one just show it.. PROV that this book is false if u can... u will try i know!
general77se 3 months ago
hears a mircale they can perform, make themsleves all disappear along with the catholic church and all the fanatics.
XxgoetfacexX 1 year ago
The quran does not contain any scientific information. It just contains vague pieces of writing that believers interpret as scientific information. When something is vague you can pretty much make it say whatever you want it to say.
RationalConclusion 1 year ago
@RationalConclusion I agree with you mate, in the fact most fortune tellers soothsayers etc employ this method. However, the Quran is very clear on some subjects (eg The barrier between two different type of water and description of the stages of thehuman embryo + more) and some facts are only just being discovered. What you got to ask yourself why an iliterate person fabricate anything, that did not profit him in any sense. You might also want to read up on the cruelty he was subjected to.
adromasknilnil99 1 year ago
@adromasknilnil99 You may well believe that the quran contains scientific information but that's simply your interpretation it. The truth is that the quran does not say anything scientific. It contains no clear, detailed or explanative scientific information whatsoever. This so called "scientific information" is just short, vague pieces of ancient writing which believers like to interpret as scientific information.
RationalConclusion 1 year ago
Please Google "Quran science debunked".
After reading about those, learn about logical fallacies (e.g. presupposing the conclusion), read an article on Nostradamus and Urban Legends which will explain how vague language can be interpreted to mean anything you want it to mean, then learn about the psychology of religion (particularly confirmation bias). That should give you an understanding of some of the various problems of this video.
Aaron1975melbourne 1 year ago
All the examples he gives... like the mountains being rooted. Well what would people think in 600ad? that mountains got up and walked around? These are ambigious examples that appear obvious only to those who are looking for verification of what they already believe.
GhostInTheShell29 1 year ago
A small number of scientists from the 80's say the quran possesses miraculous information...but don't become muslims....hmm...
TheIslammiracle 1 year ago
@TheIslammiracle You know that you were born, grew and are living without any imput from yourself. You have all the means to sustainance (food, water, air, shelter). In you, you have one of the most complex machinery, computer and conscience. You have environment that is tuned to phenomenal accuracy to allow life to exist.. You have weather, the sun, the skies, the land that controls yours and everybody elses fate. Yet you believe it to be a coincidence and an accident. Yet you dont believe
adromasknilnil99 1 year ago
@adromasknilnil99 I urge you to learn about evolution through natural selection. It explains the complexity and diversity of life and provides an answer to the so called "fine tuning" argument.
RationalConclusion 1 year ago
@RationalConclusion speaking about natural selection ! sir how come we stopped as humans in the evolution cycle? so from monkeys poooof we are humans and from then we still humans? if you think evolution is the thing! how come our prophet peace be upon him , Muhamed an illiterate would know how humans are formed in the womb? how does astronomy work?
dicaprio20us 1 year ago
@dicaprio20us We didn't simply "poooof" from "monkeys". Humans gradually evolved from a lower species of ape. This process has taken millions of years.
The quran says nothing about how embryos form in the womb. The quran contains many vague pieces of writing which some like to interpret as scientific knowledge but it isn't. It's just vague pieces of ancient text.
Why are you asking me how astronomy works?
RationalConclusion 1 year ago
@RationalConclusion so all scientists reverts ! are you straight up dumb? is that it?
dicaprio20us 1 year ago
@dicaprio20us No I am not "straight up dumb". Show me some respect and talk to me like an adult.
What do you mean "so all scientists reverts"? I don't understand what you're saying.
RationalConclusion 1 year ago
@dicaprio20us "All scientists" don't revert. In fact, there is a very high correlation between education in the physical sciences and atheism. In surveys of the academic elites - Nobel prize winners and members of the National Academy of Sciences you are looking at well over 90% atheists and it is still rising. The few that believe in gods are mostly deists. Nobody are impressed with the Qur'an. The guy in this video was probably paid, as his views are not representative of reality.
Gnomefro 1 year ago
@Gnomefro of COURSE OF COURSE. keep making excuses. fool. you people are to arrogant. so lets just see when we die who was true. =)
edlgotbanged 1 year ago
@RationalConclusion WRONG. we never evolved we have always been humans fool. even your athiets dumbbies say before the big bang there was nothing now im asking
HOW DOES SOME THING COME FROM NOTHING ? HMM ....
edlgotbanged 1 year ago
@edlgotbanged We did evolve and are evolving just as every other living thing is on this planet.
I encourage you to read about the subject of evolution and understand how it works.
I have no idea how the universe began but there's no reason to believe that it was started by a god or that a god even exists.
RationalConclusion 1 year ago
@RationalConclusion LOL. hmm let me ask you people if there was nothing before the big bang HOW ALL OF A SUDDEN DID THE EARTH FORM. NOTHING COMES FROM NOTHING. if it could then make some thing pop up in front of you.
well im sorry but evolution has no proof just a sad little faith wich used scince to back it up but it cant even do that properly.
the most simple questions you people avert from and start talking noncence. goodbye.
edlgotbanged 1 year ago
@edlgotbanged I have never said that the universe came from nothing and that's not what the big bang theory says either. What I'm saying is that there's no reason to believe that the universe was created by a god or that a god exists.
Evolution is a fact. I suggest you educate yourself on the subject.
RationalConclusion 1 year ago
@RationalConclusion no honestly your to arrgoant to accept it. so tell me why is scince only finding things now that the Quran spoke about 1,400 years ago.
even you dummies know everything in the universe is perfect HOW? JUST RANDOM CHANCE hmmmm i think not stop being arrogant thinking you are more clever then people who belive in god. fool.
edlgotbanged 1 year ago
@edlgotbanged The quran does not contain any scientific information. It simply contains various verses that believers like to interpret as scientific information.
Evolution is not something which works by "random chance". Evolution is guided by natural selection.
I encourage you to start reading books other than the quran.
RationalConclusion 1 year ago
@RationalConclusion and no scince. LOL ok by that statment i can tell you are to arrogant. you just cba to pray. you feed your body what it needs but what about your soul ? hmmm
atheism = materalism society. basically becuase you people work for things in this life you live for this life. so love this dunya all you want but one day you will die.
why cant you people produce me my finger to the exact same if i chopped it of ? hmm
why cant you give life to a LTTLE dead ANT ? hmm
edlgotbanged 1 year ago
@edlgotbanged There's no reason to believe that prayer works or that souls exist.
Atheism is the lack of belief in god. As an atheist I do live for this life because there's no reason to believe that there's anything after we're dead. I suggest you do the same.
Fingers and ants are not man made things. They are a product of evolution through natural selection.
RationalConclusion 1 year ago
@dicaprio20us Evolutionary processes don't stop. They are a necessary consequence of the following two things being true:
1. Reproduction with variation(Children are not the same as their parents)
2. Evolutionary pressure(Certain biological traits lead to more success at reproduction)
This is true for all life, and consequently humans are still evolving. We also did not *poof* into humans from monkeys. Get an education.
Gnomefro 1 year ago
@dicaprio20us As for your claim that Mohammed was an illiterate - that's a muslim myth that we really have no reason to believe. It's clear that he must have been well educated due to the station of his first wife.
Gnomefro 1 year ago
@dicaprio20us The statements the Qur'an make about embryology were most likely what passed as common knowledge at the time. There are alternative embryologies from Galen, Hippocrates and others 1000 years older than Mohammed that also are fairly close to Qur'anic claims. Note that this doesn't say much, because the Qur'anic claims are wrong, claiming embryos are clots of blood at a time when no blood cells exist, and near meaningless, describing it as "something chewed" at other points.
Gnomefro 1 year ago