Escort Wrist Lock: Kamakubi, Chicken Wing or Goose Neck

[chadcite]

I used this move twice in one night, both guys were subdued I'm not too sure if its just by my strength or actual pain compliance, but I think if they're drunk like the two I used it on you won't see much of a pain response. The guy did tell me I was going to break his hand so I guess he could feel the pressure but not fully responsive (jumping around and grunting in pain).You might have to break the wrist if he swings on you if they're heaviily intoxicated to get a response.

[blusuck]

whats the move where you put your whole body on the other guys arm and your both on the ground

[franklin3321]

EXCELLENT PRESENTATION AND DEMONSTRATION. AS MY FRIEND SAYS: "IF YOU DO NOT WORK IT, IT DOES NOT WORK". THE MORE ONE WORK THE TECH. THE BETTER THE TECH. WORKS.

[Xero6660]

I have found that this actually does work if a person is drunk... Im not a bouncer but i'm a college student who goes to parties that have the occassional belligerent attendee that needs to leave, I've found that this works better than a full nelson or something like that to get them to leave, I'd say that the key component to this move is the element of surprise, not in so much as you have to sneek up behind them, you just have to surprise them with the amount of pain you can inflict so quickly

[CNCTEMATIC]

Interesting. I'd like to play with it. Looking at the way the lock is performed here I feel pretty confident you could escape it with a whipping motion. First, relax, don't tense any joints. Second, feign submission. Third, with a whip upwards in a body wave that ends pulling the trapped elbow up and out. Maybe that wouldn't work. In any case,don't like the free hand. Pretty confident it cd sneak a dangerous strike of some kind (jaw? eye? throat? groin?) before one cd react effectively.

[DARKMASTERSENSEI001]

i have used this and its variants hundreds of times as security and door work. very effective no matter what pain threshold people have. and if you know what your doing you can make it flow into other techniques. one of my favourites...

[jtsmith999]

Very impressed with your presentation,

when dealing with drunks or patrons high on drugs, does this tactic work??

Again, great job on your presentation, very clean and easy to understand.

[Hoppecomi]

Whats with the slap on the chest? "I've had enough"?

[tsuujin]

It's just a general "tap-out", which is used in sparring or training to signify you're in pain and desire release. Basically it lets a person attempt a maneuver, without putting the partner in serious risk. Tap can be on your chest, mat, partners body, anywhere that makes noise...

[Davex327]

this move also works very well as a counter to a punch and can be easily used as a takedown

the only difference between what i said and this clip is when the punch comes at you grab they're wrist as if you were parry-ing, V-step to avoid a counter punch from them, then follow this clip

to execute the takedown follow this clip through while applying downward pressure from your shoulder to their arm. still keeping pressure on their wrist.

[winglock89]

When by myself i favour the winglock, your behind the subject and have more control over him, when i have a colleage with me i am happy with the gooseneck restraint to steer the subject while my colleage applies a reverse lock for more control and which also keeps the subject off balance.

Nice video.

[MPA2000]

Locks are okay for people who don't have a high pain tolerance. The reality is these are Akido moves, so no tendons are bones will be damaged. So sucking up the pain, being high on drugs or drunk would make the other person more aggressive.

[Submissions101]

Then I move to chokes.

[bjjartist]

I love wristlocks they're a huge part of my ground game and great for self-defense.

[georgetime]

I am a cop and they teach this technique in the academy. I have never personally used it but have seen it used. On actual resisting people these techniques are harder to employ. You could turn this into a straight armbar takedown though, I have used that and it works like a dream.

[Submissions101]

Straight armbar works. We also have a video addressing a resisting opponent (see link next to video on the right in description box)

[wolfie83]

escort wrist lock can be deployed into a takedown similar to the straight arm bar takedowns...i do bouncer work in australia and its one of only a few legal wrist locks we can do, very effective.

[kimberlismith1]

I Love this move! My Dad does it to me all the time.

[LordDrayton]

Typically, chicken wing refers to the lock where you twist the arm backwards and push their wrist up their back.

[uncwaikido]

This is a very effective escort hold. I have used it before to remove people from the bar I work in. Just be mindful that the person being escorted can hit their own wrist through and get free. It may be more effective to place their arm against your sternum to prevent this from happening. Thanks for sharing, your videos are quality training tools!

[intelligentmonkey]

Would love to see this actually demonstrated against a resisting opponent - never have. Wonder why? Same reason it is not part of a genuine BJJ curriculum. Not cool.

[Submissions101]

Used all the time by police and security. By your logic anything that doesn't fall into the BJJ curriculum isn't valid then. You know that couldn't be true now. The thai clinch or kick to the head isn't a part of the BJJ system either but you'd be crazy to say those don't work.

[ruben12E4]

wel it dousnt work,, an kick to the head is just as effective as an headbut to the feet:P

note: JOKE!!!

[kevsenior]

any chance you could post a guide on how to escape holds like this or any similar type holds

[Jynx316]

Any chance we can see a Katahajime?

[Submissions101]

already up: watch?v=PSMsrFwduAs

[Jynx316]

Thanks.

[Danarker]

a great esacpe for this move is to thrust your elbows in and straight down to catch the would-be, if he could-be, security guard in a shoulder lock.(dont use it with police !!)

[kenshin715]

Great technique!5*

[groundnpound702]

hey ari, do you have any vids of you in competition?

[Submissions101]

Nope...just my students. I teach full time and my injured L5 disc keeps me out of action (for now).

[groundnpound702]

sorry to hear that. I used to work for a chiropractor, i know exactly what you're going through. is it slipping?

[Submissions101]

Nope, completely blown (Cat Scan). Decided against surgery because the back is healing slowly but the image made its way into medical books because it was so ruptured ;-) Ah, life of jiu jitsu!

[Yakshinian]

What happened?

[Submissions101]

Bad throw a while back

[rabieschu]

I was just on a BJJ camp, instuctor had been in a knee surgery. While demonstrating he said "scramble...but not too much :D, i wanna still compete" quess he was living the jj life too. Almost busted my own knee too on a takedown. Quality videos by the way.

[gratesaga]

we use this in kenpo to we call it the cradle lock for a training drill its used wit other wrist and and arm joint locks called flow locking

[batjutsu]

Classic/common but definitely still worth making a video about it. Cheers :-)

[dragonballjiujitsu]

Learned this one on PPCT class about 10 years ago.

[Submissions101]

yep....used by everyone and found it lots of martial art styles and combat systems

[taichibailongball]

This works. I had to use it once on a hothead while on vacation. Only I did it with the wrist turned up rather than down. I find it's easier to maintain control this way and can leave the other hand momentarily free to open doors and things like that.

[Submissions101]

There are LOTS of variations for this move...all are pretty cool IMO.