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  • PSN 4 life. Screw sfo some phagget online. this video IS SO TRUE. i know people personally someone who got banned for a stupid reason

  • GGPO is way better than this piece of crap game

  • So dont download the game vindicator SIMPLE!

  • @KissChad I'm well aware of that. Did u know YouTube was made or/ discovered in 2005 my S.S teacher toldme this

  • @SFOplayer1 you dumbass, they've been sued, but it's a good game. But this asshole bashes a GOOD game, sure it has a checkered passed, but as I stand on this, I'M NOT MARVEL, IDRGAFC as long as it's cool and FREE.

    You go pay 9.99 for a old Dreamcast game which had multiple glitches and no real online gameplay.

  • I'm geusing that u used to play this and got banned and cus of that u want it to be gone why els would u know so much about it and have game play videos

  • @fireken10 this is from 2007.

  • Yeah, they did steal sprites from a dead person. That's pretty low.

  • @Folau4Life Sthu. The Lag Is Terrible...You Only Do Hadouken's the whole time like a little bich, Then The Matches Over. This fggt TmyApp Stole Sprites From A Dead Person And Put it On This Shitty Game. SFO is The Lamest Street Fighter Game Ever. I Hope TmyApp The Game Stealing Nub Gets Sued. And Guess What? This Little Fggt Wasted All Our Money On Crappy SFX, A GAME NOONE PLAYS. And Stop Riding TmyApp's Dick. This Guy Is Telling the Truth...And WTF IS A Vindicated Ryu And A Vindicated Ken?

  • @LDizzle2014 yeah it lags so wat? quit crying and just play, but its ok if ur bad at it, everyones a noob at the beginning

  • @Folau4Life Sthu. The Lag Is Terrible...You Only Do Hadouken's the whole time like a little bich, Then The Matches Over. This fggt TmyApp Stole Sprites From A Dead Person And Put it On This Shitty Game. SFO is The Lamest Street Fighter Game Ever. I Hope TmyApp The Game Stealing Nub Gets Sued. And Guess What? This Little Fggt Wasted All Our Money On Crappy SFX, A GAME NOONE PLAYS.

  • 3:51 to 3:53 is true tmyapp did got fury all up my account i got proof of him

  • I laugh at this video. Youd think if it were true that someone wud take legal action? But no some loser with a lame voice makes a youtube video. Awesome. And to all those who say SFO is not a real fighting game, etc, get a life, its just a game. The same as the crap you play except for free. You are not forced to pay, so get a life.

  • @SFOplayer1

    They contacted news stations and even took legal steps against TMyApp...but TMyApp hacked thier anti-sfo website and silenced them....I'm not sure how far TMyApp went with his attack against them.....but I haven't heard a word from them...

  • @PX2k2 AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  • @SFOplayer1

    I fail to see what's funny...everything SFOTruth discussed is the truth....if you did the correct research you'd know...and what's worse this video only scratches the surface of sfo...

  • You do realized its a fan game.

  • its funny, people wanting to bring SFO down are probably terrible at the game

  • yeah and im informing and sending emails to capcom and marvel to sued this whole damn thing and bring it down to the ground. Then i will wanna see all those lackeys mod cry n bark around for help.

  • I am having problems with SFO , like i have accounts banned and terminated , stupid game anyway , now my ip is banned , and i even dont know why , this thing looks very shady . 

  • The sucky thing is not juz the lag but those loser kids playing it.. They got tons of excuses n verbal abuse when they loses, none are gentleman. And it is run by corrupted Tmyapp LACKEYS who plays favourism and act like immature brats themselves

  • that is so wrong VV_ i think im goin online right now an play sfo online ^+^ see ya later

  • lol i use to play this game back in 2001.

    I wonder if they still have my name in the top rankings archive.

    Haha i played back during the time of Professor and TarkanX. It was were I was first called "noob" after killing some guy. , i didn't even knew what the word meant back then lol. Man those were the good ole days hahaha.

  • @TheAxor111  good thing u stoped cause i would of owned u

    ^_^ look for -SFK-revenge or xamanofrage if u dont belive me

  • 2:44 did you eat your mic?

  • sucks for you guys, really you know why they dont get hit . its because they super jump to the other side and ftw they have faster pc . so dont bs about you gettung ur azz kicked in the game.

  • the game has been sued before.

  • Cont. that would be

    95X5 200X5 or 100X5 Which would be a waist on just a fkin game

  • I agree with your claim of sfo being a bit "over the top". The ruless for getting the ranks are insane. there was a guy that spon 60 ppl then got elite! thats a total of 300 fkin dollars waisted on one childhood. u coulda waisted it on a DSi XL or a new wii! Something u can acctually use and/or pass down to your children aND keep as an anteiqe. IF that sexist thing about

    TMyApp is true, Then.. I cant beleive him. there was also this guy who spon like 95 or 200 or 100 or something like that and

  • sfo sucks anyway. the lag is gay. you always hit a player and it takes forever for the health meter to go down like wtf is with dat?

  • lol this video is so absurb.

    Evidence is very important in making any claim, and the lack of it in this video is off the charts.

  • go with 2df or ggpo, u'll get fun with original games, and not crap like this

  • we all need to come together as one again and strike sfo for the second time

  • SHOCKING!

  • i'm sorry this game is fucking crap..

    Not only is the game unbalanced but it has disrespected the late mugen creator, Reu.

  • DUDE NO WAY u play cod4 and SFO!! me too.. wat are u IGN's?

  • HAHA SH1T i just stopped my game vindicator download at 97%. Im still gonna try SFO, cuz i dont feel like playing COD4 ATM.

  • lol

  • bkbatman was here baby!!

  • so was blackrider

  • SFo is good now, but if you get game vind for it, it does cause spyware, so if you are playing the game, dont game game vind. plus, marvel has talked to the SFO creator and marvel owns have of the game now.

  • I was on ebay and found SFO action figures made by Revoltech. Because there were a bunch of characters I never seen in a Street fighter game I came here looking for SFO vids. Now I wonder how/ why capcom & marvel would allow Highly detailed toys of their characters to me made under the SFO name if they have a problem with the game.

  • SF online is actually a legit capcom release, it even has exclusive characters not seen in other SF games. I believe you use your mouse to move and do attacks.

  • sfo rocks i play every day

  • People don't play SFO because it's the "greatest online game ever". Admittedly, it sucks. Lag,glitches, broken mechanics, etc. But the thing about SFO is that each character gets cool new moves that keeps the game fresh with updates. Complaints about ripping Reu's sprites are ridiculous; to make them, Reu had to edit Capcom's sprites. If anything, Capcom should be pissed. If this vid is true, why is SFO still going? You'd think Capcom would sue...

  • Marvel vs Capcom 2 is out now on PSN/XBLA, go get that game and play it, its a zillion times better than this it

  • I like Sfo!!

  • Damn straight. I believe the SFO community to be a great one. The whole crap about Roll, the stolen sprites, that makes me wonder, but not enough to give up SFO. However, I will give some credit to SFOTruth, he/she's a pretty decent conspiracy theorist.

  • SFO sucks get a 360 and buy street fighter 4

    or hell get a emulator and get play MVC on MAME

    SFO is terrible

  • Or play mugen and download characters to have urself a 2d challenge.. -_-

  • this game is fucking worse than mugen

    you fags need to go get a copy of SF4 if you wanna play a REAL STREET FIGHTER TITLE online

  • HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    This so made me laugh, talking about things he doesnt even know about !

    does this person actually knows that "ALL GAMES HAVE ANTI-CHEATS SOFTWARES LIKE GAME VINDICATOR"

    again HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    thats all i can say to this !

  • lol karma is right nd this guy probably got banned for asking to be nwo or sumthin nd was throwing his bitch fits. he sounds like jigsaw LOL

  • the way other programs use it is by detecting IN GAME, only running while you play the game

  • this is FalSe!!! Anyone who sees this must know its fake. Its not spyware, it usesses commen programming with pre-installed domains on it. it then detecs these sites. By the way, those sites are known for illegal software INCLUDING KEYLOGGERS. The man who posted this has clearly tried and failed to cheat, THANX TO GAME VINDICATOR. and game vindicator is not sfo owned, it is a GENERALLY KNOWN ANTI-CHEAT SOFTWARE, so how can they be related? FAKE!

  • This video gets funnier and funnier every time I see it because this is all made up.

  • ur LeftDFB or however u say the name

  • I would take u more serious if u didn't deepin ur voice

  • This game owns..

  • the game sucks now. and Tmyapp is a dick...known tht from exp.

  • Meh,don't play no more then. Stop talking shit about SFO,get a life really.

  • SFO is a great game, and the only thing it does, if you decide to get vindicator, is check to make sure you dont run any cheat programs.

    This way when you play against someone, it will say if they are vindicated or not, so you will know who is more likely to cheat or use cheat programs. (those who 'dont' use the vindicator)

    I have played for over a year and I have never had a problem with this game. And its my favorite game. :]

  • woah thousands? dang good thing im sponsord but his voice kindah creeped me out lol and wow man they had this game long time ;\

  • I'd rather have a Buffalo perpetually penetrate my ear canal with his penis than play SFO, no strings attached. Fuck TMyApp!! Eat a Dick. asshole single-handedly killed online gaming experience with that piece of goatshit. anyone who follows that sorry excuse for a human being can also eat a dick all day

  • Im playing SFO, SFO is cool, SFO is a nice game to play.

    1. You can play it without paying money

    2. You dont need to start Game Vindicator in order to play

    3. Seems like they banned u and u take revenge to me

  • Im playing SFO, SFO is cool, SFO is a nice game to play.

    1. You can play it without paying money

    2. You dont need to start Game Vindicator in order to play

    3. Seems like they banned u and u take revenge to me

  • i used a 1 time wallmart gift card lol

  • hey thanks for this heads up i downloaded the vindicator n saw this n would like to thank you for the heads up

  • lol im a VIP member on dat site but i didnt pay i suckerd a guy 2 pay $20 for me lol

    im not stupid 2 use ma credit card wen i can use ppl hehehe

    besides game got gay and laggy so fuck it =]

  • >.>;; kinda messed up

  • so what do yall day?...think of ways to hate on sfo 1 its just a game that makes alot of pplz happy 2 if u really hate this game that much then dont pay it any mind i mean just cuz u dont like it ur ganna make others suffer to sometime i don't understand humans....

  • Why are these idiots even giving SFO money when they can play the emulated arcade version which is the real deal.. geez..

  • y do ppl still mess with this game 0_0? if they tried 2 shut it down.if that didnt work y r ppl still talking bout this.Just leave it alone n btw i im the best spidey on sfo =).

  • who what ya ign is

  • I cannot believe u have to pay to become a VIP!!

  • lol this is dumb xD waste on 8:00 mins

  • how do u do a special move

  • lol question to you people, why do you even bother wasting so much time on trying to shut something down..?? when u can be doing something constructive.

  • This video has 911 comments! CONSPIRACY!! 911 = 9/11. Which actually means that TMy (or even the creator of this video) was behind the attacks on the World Trade!

    Hey SFO Truth.. I think we got ourselves a little clue. "We're gonna take out our.. Handy Dandy.. NOTEBOOK!!"

    You're a bunch of fucking no-life queers. Stop giving the game attention. It's just like a girl. It prides on your hate.

    -asshole

  • you're a dumbass

  • This video has nothing to do with the 9/11 conspiracy.

  • Hahaha. You two above are obviously kids. And it's that reason that I won't humiliate you to the point where you won't leave your house after 4PM.

    -asshole (from SFO)

  • SFO sucks. Just play the real arcade games on 2dfighter d o t c o m. Plain and simple.

  • He had just given you the truth at the end of the video, and if you actually go to the sites there are logs of Vindicator taking info from your PC..

  • So Is Hacking Shield Spy wear? Cuz I Tried 2 Hack Combat Arms And It Didnt Work.... And It Said Bla Bla Error So Does This Mean Its Spy Wear? Yah Go In The Corner And Jack Of 2 This 1....

  • aint that sum shit

  • fuck street fighter.

  • fuck you

  • I don't have anything against you. What's your problem?

  • i mean seriously u dont have to just tell the world fuck street fighter...0_0 i mean seriously, why are u watchin this or commentin if u hate it...well look i dont wanna get into an argument so jus continue on with wut u doin

  • Ok fine. But an eye for an eye. Fuck you asshole.

  • fuck you Streetfighter does not suck... u suck... streetfighter online sux .. streetfighter is the best..

  • street fighter fucking sucks the characters have like 3 fucking special moves LAWL suck a dick zephiroth

  • thats ur fucking opinion what do u liek maybe ill say it sux ur a moron..... its not even a fact its all opinion u moron......

  • why the fuck would you play retarded ass laggy/buggy street fighter online when you can play the REAL games for free on mame or GGPO?

  • i agree with foogiex10

  • Man,this video was epic,but seriously...why are so many people here in denial.You really can't believe that the V.I.P money goes towards legit reason?You know they're taking their 10%.By the way MUGEN pwns SFO any day,I started playing this in 2001 and look at the progress,I would think by now that all the characters would be accessible but I guess not,While over on MUGEN characters are being released almost everyday!Also stfu you can play Street Fighter games over the net using Mame or FBA.

  • dang this vid is so old and ppl still comment it? Wow

  • Now i know why they close "Speed Gear" topic every time.I played vs Speed Gear user and he used Vindicator, but he still cheated. All they say is "vindicator is 100% wall for cheats" and close topic.

    Fcking liers. Eat Penis.

    But what are we doing here? We are make scene and TMY is sitting at home and laughing coz he still get his money and his files.

    Noobs.

  • everyone has their own say. some people like it, some people dont. so everyone just shut the fuck up

  • f**k u man

  • u people r so stupid da reason y street fighter online lags is becus all online games lags nothing is perfect smart ones but still STREET FIGHTER ONLINE IS THE $#!% BRA!!!!!!! AND JUST BE HAPPY THAT THERE IS AN ONLINE STREET FIGHTER GAME IDIOTS!!!! STREET FIGHTER IS THE BEST FIGHTING GAME EVER MADE SO DONT TALK CRAP SUCKAS!!!!!!!!

  • HEY U FUCKIN DUBMASS u can play all streetfighter games ONLINE with MAMe learn yo shit b4 u speak bitch ass nigga

  • SFO sucks so bad...

    Whoever plays it is a scrubby dumbass.

  • Don't bitch at someone who speaks his mind.

  • Your so fucking right man nice video. You really put some work into this.

  • bullshit

  • this is BS..SFO RULEZ

  • sfo is shit. i used to play the game but now i know its a broken ass game. not even perfect. also capcom realeased their own sf online game. No lag nothing. SFo is so laggy and bugged up

  • SFO is a disgrace to street fighter and capcom. First of all i quit this game along time ago because of the lag. Like seriously every fighting online game i played doeasnt have health lag(you know something when you attack opponent doesnt lose damage). I just wish that this game is removed from the internet forever and capcom make their own street fighter online.

  • if the mugen creator wasnt dead would you feel the same day?no youd want him to fight his own battles

  • The one thing I love is that SFO is the one thing that Mugen players and Mugen haters can unite on..

    Because we can all agree that this is the most evil thing that has ever happened to fighting games.

  • Vargant when did i say the viewing public was spamming?I said you were.Thats when you comment more than once in a row,so what you know about your games but have you ever played SFO?If not then why get involve yourself in this???

  • Because, I actually did play SFO some years ago: 2003 to be exact. I knew an associate who had the game, and I wanted to try it,and see if I got the same rush playing this as I did Mugen... but that did'nt happen.

    And, I was'nt getting involved in the SFO conspiracy,I was merely answering your Damned question. I apologize for wasting my time trying to answer your Damned question.

    And if you did want my opinion on SFO, it could of been a hell of a lot better.

  • Yes.SFO could be better but things have changed since 2003 on sfo theres moew characters more moves and more chat rooms.ok so your not involved no reason to act like you are now and on my other comment i ment way instead of day lol

  • dont be so stupid guys no offence but sfo truth and everyone else who dispises sfo was probably mad because they were banned or they are just jelious of the sfo staff there trying to put you the viewers against sfo but you havent herd sfo's part of the story this video that site is sinceless you cant accomplish anything by rebeling against sfo its futile and this is basically an opinion now you can believe a 35 year old if you want but ask your self isnt he too old for video games anyway?

  • Actually, no. When the original GameBoy came out in 1989, everybody from Pre-K kids to businessmen, to Athletes and Superstars (who has more of a life than most can dream of), to soldiers serving in the Persian-Gulf war was playing Tetris and Super Mario Land... ALONE. And, that's NOT including the growing surge of the Nintendo Wii Simulated Sports section (Bowling and Golf mainly) that's been a HUGE success with elders in many senior homes across the country.

  • As for me and my 27 yr old ass, I may barely play home systems now and days, but (for me) nothing beats a good portable hanheld game when you're waiting for a Bus, or if you're on a subway train with nothing to do, or if you're on a 40 - 70 minute bus ride to you're college (My reason for getting a PSP and DS), you can get rid of the boredom while you're being driven to work, school, etc.

  • And then, there's the biggest example I can think of: Sports.

    Many men call Football, Basketball and Baseball a game, and yet... these grown-ass men often treat it as if it's something else... :|

    So why is that, if it's suppossed to be nothing more than a game? Many men got into fights, jumped, beaten, stabbed, and even killed over these so-called games.

    So, no... I don't think that you're to old to play games in general.

    You should just know when it's time to work and time to play.

  • vagrant026 you dont understand whats going on sfo truths porpose is to somehow eliminate an online game called streetfighter online and all your spamming about is that you arnt to old to play an game my reply wasnt about that you dont see the big picture just because sfo took something and got rich for it sfo truth got mad and wants to stop it

  • First and foremost, no offense, but make your typing more clear the next time. I had to read your response a couple of times over just to get what you were saying. Second, you are wrong about my misunderstanding of the matter at hand. I know what SFOTruth is trying to do: he is trying to unify people under his views/thinking/experiences, and go against SFO... am I not right? Know that in the end, it's up to those who watched and listen to either heed his words, or discard them.

  • "ask your self isnt he too old for video games anyway?"

    Did you 'truly' read my response? Do you know the definition of spamming? Do you even remember typing that comment vegeta090? I do, which brings me to my third point:

    Exactly, how is responding to a question that YOU ASKED THE VIEWING PUBLIC spamming? And where did I 'electronically abuse ANY message' when I gave you more that one example of my views?

    Hmph... I suppose your question was even more inconsequential then my comment.

  • sfo suks anywayz they stole sprites from the honored mugen creator reu who just DIED.They suk (no offense)

  • TMyApp should issue a global ban like back in 2004..if that happened..I imagine a great deal of sfotruth's fan base would fad away..

  • who ever made this is smart but hes a ass hole the only reason hes doing this is becuase he or she is jelous!!! AND i think street fighter online is awsome!!!!

  • And your reason is...?

  • wow, this is like watching the 9/11 conpiracy, relly creepy

  • this is a good online game but i can't believe SFO would do all of this!

  • SFO is number 1 fool, respect

  • playing MAME online is much better anyways

  • whoo thanks i downloaded vindicator once i heard this i deleted it instantly SFO sux anyways

  • This war against sfo is over...there's no reason to mess with sfo anymore...seeing how capcom is comming out with thier own online street fighter game...so let SFO be...if it prospers or fails at this point...is just up to TMyApp....no reason to mess with it anymore....

  • STFU, I am a member of this game. This game is way better than Marvel vs Capcom 1 or 2. MvsC sucks big cock. It's too slow. When you throw a fireball in the air in MvsC, it's like slow motion, the fireball comes out slow as fuck and you can only throw a few of them in the air, unlike Street Fighter online..you can throw up to 10 and they come out fast. SFO requires real skills while MvC is piece of shit game. Sure there are a few problems, like people leaving games but u still get the wins.

  • hahaha what a scrub. Spamming fireballs does not equate to skill.

  • hahaha what a scrub. Spamming fireballs does not equate to skill.

  • it's not spamming dumbass, it's called being smart, using fireball attacks instead of SF 4, they use boring slow ass moves like a punch to the face= LAME, those type of basic moves might of worked back in the atari days, but this is 2008 bitch, time to wake up and realize that shitty moves do not take away enough damage, makes it more challenging when someone is attacking you with level 1 hadouken, now you are forced to move around more, jumping across the other side of screen, its called skillz

  • I'm sure your "skillz" as you put it would get destroyed in a real fighting game. HADOUKEN x infinity, OH GAWD IM THE BESTEST!

    STFU, scrub

  • completly agree douche, in actual sf tourneys youd be laughed at for spamming hadoken, and then you would be booted, skill is not pressing down towards punch a million times...

  • Hmph. I don't know about that.

    Besides jumping over the fireball, you could teleport, dodge roll, fly, do a dragon punch/invincible start-up move through the fireball, etc.

    And, How would you overcome those who mastered the parrying and just defense techniques in SF3 and CVS2; by simply using the hadou-ken all day?

    And, don't EVER use that technique against people who mastered Strider, B.B. Hood, Marrow, Spider-Man, and Wolverine.

    I'm no World Champ, but that tactic would be suicide

  • I laugh at those who think just because they can do one move, they can beat anyone. They are the same ones who disconnect in online battles when they are about to lose.

  • Sounds like some one can't handle the truth!

  • SFO is Capcom's fault.. They created this monster. Millions of gamers cried and whined on forums for many years about the lack of fighting games on the PC platform. I don't want to buy a console to play Street Fighter. I want to play it on my PC, damnit! And I would ready to pay money for that! But who gives a two bit damn about people like me think? Capcom doesn't feel like releasing it's games on the PC, so people are FORCED to find ways to play SF on PC. Same thing will happen with MK.

  • your an idiot they tried to ban SFO they dont help sfo

  • I do hate to say it, but as much as corruption rises high in this game, Things such as game vindicator are NOT new. From this guys description it sounds just like WoW's warden. As much as i am very against such invasive software, and stealing other peoples work...There are no alternatives to steet fighter online. Maybe someone should make some?

  • You guys just suck at the game...

    Yes its laggy, but not that bad. Ya probably got crappy Pc's.

  • Fucking graverobbers. You have to be totally fucking broke or uncool to play this glitchy laggy shit.

  • its still a damn fun game

  • and ive goten banned 232874098240times for cussing da game out cuz i waz lozing lol

  • a fun game?

    that glitch piece of shit?

    just stick to the real games

  • its fun to me i think its fun ny to get banned, just type in street fighter online sucks or anything als that sound wrong lol :P

  • Sounds true to me, except for the Roll part. But to steal stuff from a DEAD MAN? unbeliveable.

  • Infact I'd like my material deleted off the sfotruth site.....all except the Reuben Kee discussion...I simply wish to be left alone....I'm not int he mood to mess with sfo users anymore or sfotruth ppl....I'm done.

  • Again I'll repeat I'm not part of sfotruth....nor do I support SFO.

  • are you serious about this? i started playing street fighter online back in 2003 when it was getting popular and stopped around 2005, and never heard nothing about this

  • well I suppose sfo will go out of buisness when sf 4 is released...seeing as that will have, and i quote:as many characters as they can fit in. with online...so i can't imagine sfo going on to long...maybe i'm wrong.

  • Yes, It's true.

  • Is this true stuff?

  • Very true. They've tried to steal some characters from Infinity's EoH mugen game, until they got banned.

  • yup i knew it I deleted it

  • tmyapp sounds like Naruto-Arenas Burnturrek and Yondaime false pride, womenizing assholes

    not sure if yon does it too but they are both over arrogant

  • Seriously that deep voice was annoying and besides I don't pay for SFO and stills and enjoyable experience and its not looking like my computer is dying and if The creator wants to look through my files meh he'll just find a lot of game forums.

  • i hear Da_Vipa, Nferno666, TMyApp, _PakistaN_, Pip99, Tarkanx, leftyfb, Professor are all apart of this..is this true?

  • this is like some sorta TV scandle or something now...

  • Man this shit has gotten out of hand reuben kee's death...I'm sorry but his death seemed way to bogus... a dragonboat race? Man...deathnotes?

    Is it that serious sfo ppl that deathnotes would be used...*sigh*

  • Don't go there. Reuben Kee's death has NOTHING to do with SFO ... And i Sincerely doubt anything with his Online life had anything to do with his physical life... In which he (as well as 4 others) lost.

  • And that's why i won't waste my time challenging that asshole..because i know he won't ever change. That's why my only future SFO goal..is to warn people not to go to that shitty game, and to help SFO truth shut SFO down, by any means neccecary.

  • and your gay

  • Apologize for whoreing out our beloved childhood characters for his own selfish gain, apologize for the VIP scam, and apologize for the bullshit he's done on SFO the years. Apologize to mugen, roll, sbyrd5, me, and his staff members..apologize to the SFO fans he's lied to and malnipuatled. Unless you think tmyapp is going to have some kind of change of heart..it wont happen.