I have this weapon now so I'm going back on my previous comment. It was a live round he shot. Unfortunately this weapon u can't close the receiver if ur mag is empty. The bolt catch stays open unless u pull mag out. So my foolish mistake. Goodvideo
Someone shot a 22 on Back side of the camera n he reacted to it. It's piston driven not gas operated. Its not like u had your gas system opened that failed to extract the casing. The receiver never opened to extract the casing. Come on man. Everyone else is correct. This one is b.s.
@cnuffs more like he was using subsonic ammunition! Subsonic ammunition does not cycle the action on most guns and is used for silencers because it does not break the sound barrier making a sonic boom.
@N609B Not worth the money, just add a Magpul AFG and save $170, of course in this video he already has, simply adding a vertical to a pistol is all they need sometimes.
People assuming it's fake are dumb. The bolt didn't move back and the casing didn't eject probably because the homemade subsonic round didn't provide enough energy to cycle the bolt. There was recoil and a bullet did leave the muzzle, the suppressor aids in decreasing the perceived recoil. Being subsonic means there is no sonic boom since the bullet traveled slower that the speed of sound.
@rjonesy0075 I read that it is forbidden to add a vertical fore-grip under Federal Law. I think there's a way to get this legalized but I bet it has something to do with a class III license or something like that. I find this law ridiculous.
Subsonic rounds usually don't cycle unlike regular rounds, as he stated in his comment. You will save time if you all learned to read everything before putting up a stupid comment. Also this video is almost four years old, I'm pretty sure he knows about tax stamps, AOWs, SBRs, and everything else that would qualify it as a weapon that needs such items.
the problem I see here is that if that is true about being 100 yds away, the time it take for the round to hit the wood is an indicator of VERY LOW velocity. My subsonic 22 rounds are going faster then that. very little damage/penatraion and zero expansion. Other then looking for a cool factor wouldn't you be better served with an air rifle????
contraire mon frere... From an executive protection perspective a 5.56 chambered ar mag fed weapon in an smg sized package offers several advantages when engaging in close proximity. First its concealable, you might be able to gaurd the principle with one of theses tucked, Its manuverable allowing for in car and cqb work. It will defeat most body armors at close range. It extends range. Lastly it allows cross platforming between it and an AR system for mutual support.
Dude thats a Piston Driven , AR mag fed, 5.56 chambered "pistol. It has a lifetime warranty and its based of the su series which have been tested intensively by the tactical civilian market, which in many cases have LEO or Service experience. Its capable of +100 yards and is concealable. Snob Kel Tec if you want , but thats the kind of ignorance that delayed the cz 75 , glocks and numerous other systems from the American Market
@arisdages Gay? My gun isn't gay! .....It might be bi curious though. I saw it checking out my HK USP .45 a few times. And I'm not gay either. But if I was, I wouldn't be offended in the least by being called, "gay". So, I wonder, is there even a point to your "gay" comment? Or was it just random brain droppings?
@rimbaudlink As awesome of a youtube video would be of me cumming while some guy with a stopwatch and a whistle is standing by to record the results for you viewing pleasure......uh....no...
@Jaboie the TAC-16 suppressor I got at a local gun shop. Google "grip-pod" which is what I have on it now. Now I also have a scope on it. It's really a shotgun scope, which might sound strange but it works very well on this gun. Beta C-Mag is another addition which I have now. And a sling from Kel-tec. So the gun has evolved since this video was made. Also I put a SU-16 aperture sight on it as well. Ordered it from Kel-tec. I also took it apart and filed the trigger to give it a very light pull
@nearadyn doesn't adding the foregrip to it make it a SBR though? Not sure, but I know in my state if you add a stock or a foregrip to it, it becomes a SBR, and you have to pay the tax. If you don't, they can confiscate the firearm, so it may be something you wanna look up
@762full full cycle rounds will cycle it as normal. Subsonic rounds never will. You could in theory, replace the spring with a custom made light weight one, which would cycle subsonics. But then you would be condemned to only using subsonics. When firing subsonics, I just cycle it by hand.
I mean bang for the buck, I can buy the ak cheaper, but I like the Kel tec, but don't know if I can justify the price diffence to myself, unless the kel tec was vastly better.
I've never shot an AK pistol before. It sounds cool though. I do like the bigger caliber also. If Kel-Tec made a 7.62X39 version of the PLR, I would've bought one of those instead. But I think the PLR does have a smoother action and is probably more accurate. But again, I haven't tested this. Also, the AK pistol might be heavier. It all depends on what you want to be able to do with your gun of choice.
nice vid, but i dont get the aow law, i know you have to get some sort of paperwork for a forward grip, how do you go about getting the correct papers, btw i live in vegas
alexthebomb542, wow still people like you try to tell people what they can and can't do legally. People never seem to mind their own business in this century.
alexthebomb542, I am not ignorant of NFA regulations. I have been plagued with them for some years now. It's just that I get such messages all the time and nobody ever assumes that my silencer is illegal. However, people constantly assume that my PLR isn't an AOW. Several times at gun ranges, cops ask to see my AOW paperwork. I have never once been asked for my silencer paperwork in several years now. At least they are protecting the world from evil criminals who have 2 grips on their pistols.
Sorry for the negativity near. You're not a tool. Guess I just had high expectations of seeing some action from your cool gun...and then..."kerthud". Hope you remake the video with 5 or 6 rounds though.
@StevenMartin1966 It's cool. When I filmed this, I intended to fire 5 rounds. But forgot to get out the camera until I had one round left. At least I remembered to film at all. I was having too much fun. Usually when I go shooting, I go alone and seriously focus on accruacy rather than filming. I might get out the camera sometime when I have a friend with me. I have a HK USP Tactical .45 with silencer from "John's Guns" in Texas that I've been wanting to make a vid of. too.
I load all of my own ammo for all of my guns. Therefore, I never have tried steel casings. But in talking with a friend who owns a PLR, he says he has no problems using cheap steel cased ammo like Wolf and such. The actions in these guns are much less prone to problems than M16/M4 actions. But you have to keep your rate of fire low as heat buildup at high fire rates is a problem with these. If it gets too hot, the laquer finish on some ammo like wolf can melt and stick the case inside the gun.
"The actions in these guns are much less prone to problems than M16/M4 actions. But you have to keep your rate of fire low as heat buildup at high fire rates is a problem with these"
rofl what a contradictory claim! i can run my M16's in full auto nice and hot without a single problem.
@zfilmmaker, It depends on your point of view. After owning my PLR for a couple of months I sold my preban Colt M16. I just didn't need it anymore. If you're interested in spraying lots of bullets downrange as fast possible, the M16 is for you. If you want a VERY lightweight and accurate gun that doesn't jam and doesn't have parts that you can hear rattle when you shake it, buy a KelTec. My Kel Tec has twice as tight of groups as my old M16. I guess It depends on what you want in a gun.
@nearadyn it depends on parts and which M16 you had. i run uppers on my M16's that utilize the best parts had and have zero rattles or problems. i'll bet you 10k any day my groups are tighter then your PLR in full or semi auto.
it doesn't make sense (at all) to sell a 'real' colt preban M16 for this keltec. perhaps you mean 'post-ban' AR-15?
MizterOrtiz, you just find a class 3 dealer and fill out the paperwork, get fingerprinted, and take 2 passport sized photos. Get your local police chief or Sheriff to sign on the line saying you aren't a baby raper. Then mail it off to the ATF with a bribe...uh... I mean "fee" of $200. Wait a while....wait some more.... then when you get it back in the mail with a little stamp on it, you can go pick up your new can....finally.
You are correct concerning the weapon being an AOW with the VFG. However, what law states one cannot use class III weapon for protection? There may arguably be prudential concerns, but no law that I'm aware of would preclude.
There is no law prohibiting the use of a silenced firearm in self defence or a machine gun. But if there ever is, I still won't care. The point of a suppressor is so that people won't notice that a gun was fired, or at least which direction it was fired from... it never ceases to amaze me how many people on youtube try to tell me what they think I can and can't do.
I'm just curious as to why you went through the trouble to get the NFA paperwork done for the suppressor, but didn't get a stock and make it an SBR...
I'm considering it. Although now I have a shoulder sling for the gun and a grip-pod. Using those makes the shoulder stock not needed. A folding stock would still be really cool though....hmmm.....
I went the $5 route of course. Yes there is a stock. All the stocks Kel-tec makes for their su-16 line of guns will fit the PLR and work with it. The action and design of the guns is unchanged between them. Of course you need the proper paperwork to be legal. You can buy the stocks separately from Kel-tec in the "parts" section of their website.
They are almost the same cartrige. Diameter and average grain weight of the projectiles vary between the two. If your rifle is marked 5.56mm then you can shoot both 5.56 and .223 remington with no problems. If marked .223 then you are better of sticking to the calibrated ammo. AR 15 style pistols are gay by the way. Register it and make it a SBR. You will love the increase in assuracy and manueverability. I dont know if I spelled that right.
I carry a silenced HK USP tactical in .45acp in my jeep. The PLR is too heavy and harder to use through a car window. The silenced PLR is great for urban room sweeping though.
lol. wtf man, do you do enough shooting out of car windows and "room sweeping" for the size of the PLR-16 to be a big deal? It's refreshing to see a gun fanatic honest about his weird tendencies. Let me know when the revolution gets to your neck of the woods.
Ha crazy! Why the suppressor? Seems that would take away the usefulness of a pistol within a vehicle. How do you secure it when you leave the car? A lock box? I have been looking what options are available to install something under my seat. Do you have another opinion of what may be useful?
I leave the suppressor attached to the gun pretty much all the time including when it's in the car. I just keep it in a backpack in the car with the door locked. Why would I need a special lock box? If someone steals your car, they've got the gun and silencer whether it's in a box in the car or a backpack. I just don't worry about it. I never leave it in the car and the car out of sight of me if I'm carrying it with me.
Ahh, I didn't realize you always kept the car in sight. I thought you left it in there 24/7 as a car gun. You much more likely to have you car broken into than have it stolen, and it is common sense not to leave a firearm or class 3 item in the vehicle unsecured.
No. Furthermore, this is a long range pistol. In other words, conceal and Carry Legal depending on the State you live in. Even if you put a drum on it.
This is true, it's technically a "pistol". So, you could use it as a conceal and carry weapon. But it's nearly impossible to conceal such a thing unless you're using a sling and a long coat. And when I put my drum on mine, it's VERY heavy. I don't think of this gun as a pistol really. it's a tiny rifle. If you want a more concealable pistol that is very powerful, try a .50AE Desert Eagle. There are custom holsters for it which make it possible to conceal fairly well under the right clothes.
Yeah I don't care for the .50 for two reasons. It can't use +p ammunition, and doesn't have the capacity I am looking for. I have the Jericho 941, and its more along my line of pistol. Slim, reliable, accurate, high cap.
I personally would get a sling and just wear a heavy jacket.
Aesthetics and practicality aside, if you want one BA rifle legal to use, carry, and hide on your person or vehicle, this is it
I agree though, it is just a small rifle... I want one bad, but they are back ordered.
exactly, its good for your vehicle, especially if you live in urban areas. now the fn 57 is a good pistol that has fire power. it shoots the 5.7x28 cartridge and the mag holds 20rnds(you can add an adapter to the mag and 30rnds). to me carry a pistol with rifle ammo and 30rnds is sweet!
Pretty nice. It appears the subsonic round didn't have enough pressure to eject, which isn't necessarily a bad thing if you want the ultimate in silence.
I'm kind of a noob when it comes to diff. caliburs. I know about the common ones like 22, 380, 38spl, 357sig, 357mag etc.
So is a .223 a badass round or what? The silencer must be workin real good if it is cuz although I'm muted I expect to see a bigger gas discharge from the barrel.
.223 Rem is actually .224" in diameter not .223. It is the SAME thing as 5.56mm. 5.56mm is not 5.56mm in diameter. 5.56mm = .218in. A bullet fired through a .223 weapon, which has a bore meant to shoot a .224 projectile, with a diameter of .218 would not make an airtight seal in the barrel, and thus... it would suck. The military should have called the round 5.66 since that's what .224in is in millimeters.
They call it 5.56 to appease NATO. Europe is all that metric crap. The Brits and other European countries use the same type of magazines and ammo types for logistics reasons.
Yes. If you shoot a 5.56 in a .223 it will only work once. THen you break out the tools. LOL
However, if you shoot a .223 in a 5.56 you will be not so accurate, but fine. Most ammo sold is .223. However, if you want extreme accuracy, buy .223 for a .223, or 5.56 for the 5.56.
.223 and 5.56 are the same cartridge. Read earlier post by me. They only do this for maximum confusion. I used to own and M-16 which said 5.56 on the barrel and I put cartridges which said .223 on the rim through it with no problem. I've also put NATO 5.56 through my PLR. The gun hasn't blown up yet. It's all the same shell. look it up on wikipedia and do the math. I did and found it enlightening.
It is just a little bit less hassle if you go the "Trust" route. No finger-prints, no sherrif sign-off. It's less paperwork than buying a car too. The $200 sucks, though.
I've not heard of that. What is the "trust" route and what are it's drawbacks? Yes, I load my own subsonics using Sierra 69 grain HPBT bullets, #1380 and 4.0 grains of IMR Trailboss powder. Don't use that load in longer barrels though such as an AR-15. They will get stuck in the barrel. I'd start with 5.0 grains and adjust the load until your speed is about 980fps
after just hearing the report and the hit it sounded like about 100 yards and i was suprised that the round traveled so slow. that wouldnt yawn or frag at all would it?
yes, if you modify the projectile a little bit. they will shed the copper jacket in pieces, and the lead core will continue on while tumbling. I've tested them out very well. I would not want to get shot with one! Unmodified, they stay intact and tumble a bit, but aren't nearly as impressive. but rigging them to frag takes about 20 minutes per round and is mind-numbingly boring. So, I don't do it very much now that I'm done testing them.
thats around what i figured the scenario might entail. why not try xm193 in 55 grain? that way the bullet may be light enough to travel at fragging speeds.its so hard to get the right ballistic outcome in these tiny ar-15 barrels but damn are they fun!
i have tried some government xm193. I shot about 50 shots of it. It works just fine. But I didn't think it was anything special. It seemed to behave like any other 55gr .223 round I've shot. They all perform well in this gun it seems.
these are not a "huge hassle" to obtain really. It's about 2 pages of paperwork to fill out and then a couple hours driving around town getting fingerprinted and getting your local sheriff to sign the paperwork saying you have no major felonies. The hard part to me, is mailing it all to the ATF and waiting a month or so before getting the papers back with the stamp so you can take your new toy home.
very nice setup you got there! I'm guessing the subsonic round doesn't have enough recoil to properly cycle the action? I was just wondering because I'm planning on getting a silencer for my AR and i heard there is problems with getting the subsonic rounds to cycle.
scootah2213, That's right. They won't cycle the action. There is one brand of commercially produced .223 subsonics that do cycle. The problem is, they will jam on every 3rd shot or so and are VERY expensive. it's much better to just load your own and just manually chamber the next round each time. The good thing about that is, without it cycling, it's quieter. There's no "KACHINK" sound of it cycling, which could give away your position when sniping waskally wabbits...heheheheh
Boo this vid! BOOOOOOO!!!!!!
WStar4Life 1 month ago
entirely useless other than as a take-down rifle. the rfb is sheer brilliance. this is kel-tec's practice to make their rfb
mechmusician 1 month ago
I have this weapon now so I'm going back on my previous comment. It was a live round he shot. Unfortunately this weapon u can't close the receiver if ur mag is empty. The bolt catch stays open unless u pull mag out. So my foolish mistake. Goodvideo
cnuffs 2 months ago
Someone shot a 22 on Back side of the camera n he reacted to it. It's piston driven not gas operated. Its not like u had your gas system opened that failed to extract the casing. The receiver never opened to extract the casing. Come on man. Everyone else is correct. This one is b.s.
cnuffs 2 months ago
@cnuffs more like he was using subsonic ammunition! Subsonic ammunition does not cycle the action on most guns and is used for silencers because it does not break the sound barrier making a sonic boom.
renoretards 2 months ago
You can see the gases come out of the suppressor.
hedlessniper 2 months ago
make it a sbr
N609B 3 months ago
@N609B Not worth the money, just add a Magpul AFG and save $170, of course in this video he already has, simply adding a vertical to a pistol is all they need sometimes.
qxz79424 2 months ago
Why are there so many haters!!?? This is very real!!! Cool set up!
g3attack 3 months ago
rofl fake.
GhostTribe 3 months ago
No one else seen him pull the charging handle to the rear and the round rejecting how can this be fake??
pmarquez40 4 months ago
DAMN, Indiana Jones has really let himself go....
Wrx1689 4 months ago
People assuming it's fake are dumb. The bolt didn't move back and the casing didn't eject probably because the homemade subsonic round didn't provide enough energy to cycle the bolt. There was recoil and a bullet did leave the muzzle, the suppressor aids in decreasing the perceived recoil. Being subsonic means there is no sonic boom since the bullet traveled slower that the speed of sound.
jpap967 4 months ago
fake...this buster didnt fire the rifle, no recoil, didnt pull the trigger, you can tell because the bolt didnt move, no round ejected..........
smokestakz 5 months ago
Isnt a forward grip on a pistol illegal?
rjonesy0075 6 months ago
@rjonesy0075 I read that it is forbidden to add a vertical fore-grip under Federal Law. I think there's a way to get this legalized but I bet it has something to do with a class III license or something like that. I find this law ridiculous.
ntrudr800 5 months ago
@rjonesy0075
Yep unless his gun is registered as a AOW or SBR. Also assuming this was taken in the US.
ramz7887 5 months ago
@rjonesy0075 not with a tax stamp... educate yourself
vtownhood 4 months ago
Well...the suppressor works with subsonic rounds...that was quiet enough to meet any requirements for stealth that I can think of.
Does it fail with full loads? (both noise level and suppressor life expectancy)
I imagine quick suppressor burn out is a problem...probably expensive too.
Suppressor life expectancy is normally short no matter what loads you are running so replacement cost would be a big factor.
I give gun/suppressor/load combination a 6 out of 10 for effective useability.
Not bad.
hammerogod 6 months ago
turds.
sethzky77 6 months ago
Some one is a penny pincher, one shot?
02montecarloSS 7 months ago
@02montecarloSS SOME ONE IS A DICK .... WITH 8 WORDS!
LUVMAGNUMGUNS2 7 months ago
The suppressor is nice, but who is this cat Indy Jones wanna B just alittle scary!! and one shot come on
1911mrk 8 months ago
lame...
encognito21 8 months ago
what kind of supressor is that ?
evrard666 8 months ago
Subsonic rounds usually don't cycle unlike regular rounds, as he stated in his comment. You will save time if you all learned to read everything before putting up a stupid comment. Also this video is almost four years old, I'm pretty sure he knows about tax stamps, AOWs, SBRs, and everything else that would qualify it as a weapon that needs such items.
Silent14389 9 months ago
FAILED! weapon wasn't fired. Like others have stated. I hope you have a tax stamp for that foward grip
LooseJuicePussyJuice 9 months ago
In my opinion if you have already gone through the hassle of getting Class3 sign offs for a silencer and AOW tax stamps, you might as well go SBR.
C172Pilotdude 9 months ago
Hope you have a licenses for that grip on the front. It makes the gun classified as a AOW if you have it on. Have fun in butt pounding prison.
No but i'm serious look it up.
TheChubbyKid 9 months ago
I have hated those until now... the can really brings it together.
HammeredAndHorny 9 months ago
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nice pony tail where'd you get it?
mclaen1987 9 months ago
nice pony tail where'd get it?
mclaen1987 9 months ago
A .223 or 5.56 whatever you want to call it wouldve been at least a 90 grain
kane6ify 10 months ago
so fuckin stupid, you look like a fuckin retard
haylibugsdad 10 months ago
Is that an SBR without a stock, or an AOW with a second tax stamp?
SimulantSlumber 10 months ago
the gun wasn't even fired, the action didnt cycle, and the empty lock open would have kept the action open if you only "fired" one round.
mikecris124 10 months ago
dude you never fired it.... bb gun in the back ground!
dills2403 10 months ago
I'm bi-curious about that gun. Sort of.
FaganRoberts 10 months ago
aww only one round
weoponmakerpro 11 months ago
i want that gun its sweet lookin
sweettooth80 11 months ago
I want an Indiana Jones hat...:(
TheAriesprecept 11 months ago
hey, why didn't you put your non shooting hand on the forward grip?
libertyeagle777 11 months ago
is that.... TOM CRUISE!!!!!!!
HAHA
wilymcgee 11 months ago
That was about as real as professional wrestling.
banacek8675 11 months ago
Very impressive sound suppression on that model, nice! :)
I'm curious, has anyone tried rebarreling and rechambering this weapon or the OA-93 in .300 Whisper (subsonic ammunition)?
Schone23666 1 year ago
Dwight
ilovechairmanmeow 1 year ago
i was expecting the gun to fly into your nose
ninth9th 1 year ago
69 grains subsonic. Might as well go with a .22 maggy.
GunnyBear95 1 year ago
nice setup. how much did it cost to register and buy the the supressor?
phishintube 1 year ago
Did I just break wind or did he finally shoot???
YouMockMe 1 year ago
You made INDIANA JONES your Bit@h
skullgymequipment 1 year ago
Doesn't the foregrip make it an AOW?
TheLionSheikh 1 year ago
the problem I see here is that if that is true about being 100 yds away, the time it take for the round to hit the wood is an indicator of VERY LOW velocity. My subsonic 22 rounds are going faster then that. very little damage/penatraion and zero expansion. Other then looking for a cool factor wouldn't you be better served with an air rifle????
paulbart24 1 year ago
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that dude is such a badass
Alice1Alice 1 year ago
gay
HandsHeldHigh1 1 year ago
Also not bad in a low profile SHTF scenario :)
BlackOpsLeader 1 year ago
@Composer1777
contraire mon frere... From an executive protection perspective a 5.56 chambered ar mag fed weapon in an smg sized package offers several advantages when engaging in close proximity. First its concealable, you might be able to gaurd the principle with one of theses tucked, Its manuverable allowing for in car and cqb work. It will defeat most body armors at close range. It extends range. Lastly it allows cross platforming between it and an AR system for mutual support.
BlackOpsLeader 1 year ago
Ahem... NFA?
nafpu2 1 year ago
Indiana Jones, shoot them Nazis!
vinderius 1 year ago
0:19 ONLY YOU CAN PREVENT FOREST FIRES
ricky6bubbles 1 year ago
damn dude u shot i a shitty gun way to go
xXTheJ0kerrXx 1 year ago
@xXTheJ0kerrXx it's only a shitty (pardon my language) gun if you didn't finish the break-in period
Silent14389 1 year ago
@xXTheJ0kerrXx
Dude thats a Piston Driven , AR mag fed, 5.56 chambered "pistol. It has a lifetime warranty and its based of the su series which have been tested intensively by the tactical civilian market, which in many cases have LEO or Service experience. Its capable of +100 yards and is concealable. Snob Kel Tec if you want , but thats the kind of ignorance that delayed the cz 75 , glocks and numerous other systems from the American Market
BlackOpsLeader 1 year ago
may be 77 grain round would be better for subsonic ...
ww2footage 1 year ago
Strange but cool looking gun.
I like it!
NKA23 1 year ago
bad ass gun, but the video sucks, admit it!
rimbaudlink 1 year ago
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rimbaudlink 1 year ago
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rimbaudlink 1 year ago
gay
arisdages 1 year ago
@arisdages Gay? My gun isn't gay! .....It might be bi curious though. I saw it checking out my HK USP .45 a few times. And I'm not gay either. But if I was, I wouldn't be offended in the least by being called, "gay". So, I wonder, is there even a point to your "gay" comment? Or was it just random brain droppings?
nearadyn 1 year ago 93
@nearadyn lolololol.....brain droppings, priceless
Thumperanddumper 1 year ago
@nearadyn nice comeback 0.o
maam31 1 year ago
@nearadyn you shoudve bought a kel tec su16 instead. they look better, they just dont have that pistol grip.....
DEOXYS987 1 year ago
@nearadyn gay also means happy, so maybe thats what he ment
jonasldg 11 months ago
@nearadyn ha this reply is so much win
kodiak8311 6 months ago
@nearadyn BURN!!!!!
lukevash 5 months ago
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rimbaudlink 1 year ago
@rimbaudlink As awesome of a youtube video would be of me cumming while some guy with a stopwatch and a whistle is standing by to record the results for you viewing pleasure......uh....no...
nearadyn 1 year ago
NEARADYN - Where did you get all the sweet mods? That thing is far from stock. Let me know. Thanks. Send me a message.
Jaboie 1 year ago
@Jaboie the TAC-16 suppressor I got at a local gun shop. Google "grip-pod" which is what I have on it now. Now I also have a scope on it. It's really a shotgun scope, which might sound strange but it works very well on this gun. Beta C-Mag is another addition which I have now. And a sling from Kel-tec. So the gun has evolved since this video was made. Also I put a SU-16 aperture sight on it as well. Ordered it from Kel-tec. I also took it apart and filed the trigger to give it a very light pull
nearadyn 1 year ago
@nearadyn doesn't adding the foregrip to it make it a SBR though? Not sure, but I know in my state if you add a stock or a foregrip to it, it becomes a SBR, and you have to pay the tax. If you don't, they can confiscate the firearm, so it may be something you wanna look up
daBlade80 1 year ago
@daBlade80 You are correct. This configuration requires a SBR tax stamp.
sadolakced 1 year ago
how do you make it cycle
762full 1 year ago
@762full full cycle rounds will cycle it as normal. Subsonic rounds never will. You could in theory, replace the spring with a custom made light weight one, which would cycle subsonics. But then you would be condemned to only using subsonics. When firing subsonics, I just cycle it by hand.
nearadyn 1 year ago
@nearadyn I'm think of an AK, can you simply use two different recoil assemblies/springs for the two different loads?
762full 1 year ago
Whats better a ak 47 pistol or the kel tec?
I mean bang for the buck, I can buy the ak cheaper, but I like the Kel tec, but don't know if I can justify the price diffence to myself, unless the kel tec was vastly better.
Gamera49 1 year ago
I've never shot an AK pistol before. It sounds cool though. I do like the bigger caliber also. If Kel-Tec made a 7.62X39 version of the PLR, I would've bought one of those instead. But I think the PLR does have a smoother action and is probably more accurate. But again, I haven't tested this. Also, the AK pistol might be heavier. It all depends on what you want to be able to do with your gun of choice.
nearadyn 1 year ago
nice vid, but i dont get the aow law, i know you have to get some sort of paperwork for a forward grip, how do you go about getting the correct papers, btw i live in vegas
Doja421 1 year ago
Is the gun registered as an AOW? If not then take that front grip off.
alexthebomb542 2 years ago
alexthebomb542, wow still people like you try to tell people what they can and can't do legally. People never seem to mind their own business in this century.
nearadyn 2 years ago
@nearadyn
Just trying to help. For someone who owns a suppressor, you sure seem to be ignorant of NFA regulations.
alexthebomb542 2 years ago
alexthebomb542, I am not ignorant of NFA regulations. I have been plagued with them for some years now. It's just that I get such messages all the time and nobody ever assumes that my silencer is illegal. However, people constantly assume that my PLR isn't an AOW. Several times at gun ranges, cops ask to see my AOW paperwork. I have never once been asked for my silencer paperwork in several years now. At least they are protecting the world from evil criminals who have 2 grips on their pistols.
nearadyn 2 years ago 2
@nearadyn Just one guy watching out for another.
thedreeeeeewski 1 year ago
It's bullshit. It's a HOAX. The shooter is doing a pantomime!
The bolt does not move, and there is ZERO discharge at the front!
Lance6464 2 years ago
You're right Lance6464, nobody could ever make a gun perform THIS good.... ya got me.
nearadyn 2 years ago
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StevenMartin1966 2 years ago
@StevenMartin1966: So... why don't you go buy one and make your own video. A video you can be proud of with no wasted time, only wasted ammo?
nearadyn 2 years ago
Sorry for the negativity near. You're not a tool. Guess I just had high expectations of seeing some action from your cool gun...and then..."kerthud". Hope you remake the video with 5 or 6 rounds though.
StevenMartin1966 2 years ago 2
@StevenMartin1966 It's cool. When I filmed this, I intended to fire 5 rounds. But forgot to get out the camera until I had one round left. At least I remembered to film at all. I was having too much fun. Usually when I go shooting, I go alone and seriously focus on accruacy rather than filming. I might get out the camera sometime when I have a friend with me. I have a HK USP Tactical .45 with silencer from "John's Guns" in Texas that I've been wanting to make a vid of. too.
nearadyn 2 years ago
dickhead
giannacopulos95 2 years ago
This is the most bad ass video on youtube
CamoKnights 2 years ago 22
Does it have a problem with steel cased rounds?
donmon95 2 years ago
I load all of my own ammo for all of my guns. Therefore, I never have tried steel casings. But in talking with a friend who owns a PLR, he says he has no problems using cheap steel cased ammo like Wolf and such. The actions in these guns are much less prone to problems than M16/M4 actions. But you have to keep your rate of fire low as heat buildup at high fire rates is a problem with these. If it gets too hot, the laquer finish on some ammo like wolf can melt and stick the case inside the gun.
nearadyn 2 years ago
"The actions in these guns are much less prone to problems than M16/M4 actions. But you have to keep your rate of fire low as heat buildup at high fire rates is a problem with these"
rofl what a contradictory claim! i can run my M16's in full auto nice and hot without a single problem.
keltec is junk
zfilmmaker 2 years ago
@zfilmmaker, It depends on your point of view. After owning my PLR for a couple of months I sold my preban Colt M16. I just didn't need it anymore. If you're interested in spraying lots of bullets downrange as fast possible, the M16 is for you. If you want a VERY lightweight and accurate gun that doesn't jam and doesn't have parts that you can hear rattle when you shake it, buy a KelTec. My Kel Tec has twice as tight of groups as my old M16. I guess It depends on what you want in a gun.
nearadyn 2 years ago
@nearadyn it depends on parts and which M16 you had. i run uppers on my M16's that utilize the best parts had and have zero rattles or problems. i'll bet you 10k any day my groups are tighter then your PLR in full or semi auto.
it doesn't make sense (at all) to sell a 'real' colt preban M16 for this keltec. perhaps you mean 'post-ban' AR-15?
zfilmmaker 1 year ago
What an unusual hat.
callmebigpapa 2 years ago 2
callmebigpapa,
Thank you very much! That's very complimentary. However it's only unusual in this century.
nearadyn 2 years ago
How do i go about getting one of those suppressors?? I live in Arizona where we laugh at gun laws
MizterOrtiz 2 years ago
MizterOrtiz, you just find a class 3 dealer and fill out the paperwork, get fingerprinted, and take 2 passport sized photos. Get your local police chief or Sheriff to sign on the line saying you aren't a baby raper. Then mail it off to the ATF with a bribe...uh... I mean "fee" of $200. Wait a while....wait some more.... then when you get it back in the mail with a little stamp on it, you can go pick up your new can....finally.
nearadyn 2 years ago
Can I have that?
internetfilth 2 years ago
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BagofSmell 2 years ago
You are correct concerning the weapon being an AOW with the VFG. However, what law states one cannot use class III weapon for protection? There may arguably be prudential concerns, but no law that I'm aware of would preclude.
girodin 2 years ago
There is no law prohibiting the use of a silenced firearm in self defence or a machine gun. But if there ever is, I still won't care. The point of a suppressor is so that people won't notice that a gun was fired, or at least which direction it was fired from... it never ceases to amaze me how many people on youtube try to tell me what they think I can and can't do.
nearadyn 2 years ago
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eyeluvguns 2 years ago
LOL!
kkslider26 2 years ago
hahaha, lmao. And all that waiting for one lousy shot!
72chevelless530 2 years ago 5
eyeluvguns, sorry I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.
nearadyn 2 years ago
wow, one shot? Youve got a magazine.
dude23848 2 years ago
ummmm.... awkward
baker70romeo 2 years ago 3
lol. i felt somewhat violated myself.
VegasGuns 2 years ago
1 shot...really? ammo is a bit pricey but at least run through a proper group.
cnknguyen 2 years ago 3
I'm just curious as to why you went through the trouble to get the NFA paperwork done for the suppressor, but didn't get a stock and make it an SBR...
pacodlux 2 years ago
I'm considering it. Although now I have a shoulder sling for the gun and a grip-pod. Using those makes the shoulder stock not needed. A folding stock would still be really cool though....hmmm.....
nearadyn 2 years ago
So did you pay the $200 to make it an AOW with the front grip or did you have a class 3 who can manufacture do it so you could transfer it for $5?
Do they even make a stock option for that if you wanted to SBR?
gunut4FMJ 2 years ago
I went the $5 route of course. Yes there is a stock. All the stocks Kel-tec makes for their su-16 line of guns will fit the PLR and work with it. The action and design of the guns is unchanged between them. Of course you need the proper paperwork to be legal. You can buy the stocks separately from Kel-tec in the "parts" section of their website.
nearadyn 2 years ago
Oh that is pretty cool. Didn't know those used to same format to attach a stock.
gunut4FMJ 2 years ago
Folding stock and SBR it gogogo, haha. That'll be one sweet weapon if ya do!
pacodlux 2 years ago
Accuracy. Sorry.
tannerdouglasjensen 2 years ago
They are almost the same cartrige. Diameter and average grain weight of the projectiles vary between the two. If your rifle is marked 5.56mm then you can shoot both 5.56 and .223 remington with no problems. If marked .223 then you are better of sticking to the calibrated ammo. AR 15 style pistols are gay by the way. Register it and make it a SBR. You will love the increase in assuracy and manueverability. I dont know if I spelled that right.
tannerdouglasjensen 2 years ago
did that really shoot. i thought suppressors made alot more sound then that
kamugila987 2 years ago
great for carry in your car with a drum means you can really make sure you don't get rob
tkdteen2 2 years ago
I carry a silenced HK USP tactical in .45acp in my jeep. The PLR is too heavy and harder to use through a car window. The silenced PLR is great for urban room sweeping though.
nearadyn 2 years ago
lol. wtf man, do you do enough shooting out of car windows and "room sweeping" for the size of the PLR-16 to be a big deal? It's refreshing to see a gun fanatic honest about his weird tendencies. Let me know when the revolution gets to your neck of the woods.
aestheticsoldier 2 years ago
lmao
MockEmpire 2 years ago
hahaha woot
F3nyx 2 years ago
i almost bought one but theyre to damn big so i got an XD instead
cobraman281SVT 2 years ago
Ha crazy! Why the suppressor? Seems that would take away the usefulness of a pistol within a vehicle. How do you secure it when you leave the car? A lock box? I have been looking what options are available to install something under my seat. Do you have another opinion of what may be useful?
gunut4FMJ 2 years ago
I leave the suppressor attached to the gun pretty much all the time including when it's in the car. I just keep it in a backpack in the car with the door locked. Why would I need a special lock box? If someone steals your car, they've got the gun and silencer whether it's in a box in the car or a backpack. I just don't worry about it. I never leave it in the car and the car out of sight of me if I'm carrying it with me.
nearadyn 2 years ago
Ahh, I didn't realize you always kept the car in sight. I thought you left it in there 24/7 as a car gun. You much more likely to have you car broken into than have it stolen, and it is common sense not to leave a firearm or class 3 item in the vehicle unsecured.
gunut4FMJ 2 years ago
Does the vertical forward grip on that make it an SBR? Do you need a class 3 to own that?
joefromcofosho 2 years ago
No. Furthermore, this is a long range pistol. In other words, conceal and Carry Legal depending on the State you live in. Even if you put a drum on it.
darkelfjst 2 years ago
This is true, it's technically a "pistol". So, you could use it as a conceal and carry weapon. But it's nearly impossible to conceal such a thing unless you're using a sling and a long coat. And when I put my drum on mine, it's VERY heavy. I don't think of this gun as a pistol really. it's a tiny rifle. If you want a more concealable pistol that is very powerful, try a .50AE Desert Eagle. There are custom holsters for it which make it possible to conceal fairly well under the right clothes.
nearadyn 2 years ago
Yeah I don't care for the .50 for two reasons. It can't use +p ammunition, and doesn't have the capacity I am looking for. I have the Jericho 941, and its more along my line of pistol. Slim, reliable, accurate, high cap.
I personally would get a sling and just wear a heavy jacket.
Aesthetics and practicality aside, if you want one BA rifle legal to use, carry, and hide on your person or vehicle, this is it
I agree though, it is just a small rifle... I want one bad, but they are back ordered.
darkelfjst 2 years ago
exactly, its good for your vehicle, especially if you live in urban areas. now the fn 57 is a good pistol that has fire power. it shoots the 5.7x28 cartridge and the mag holds 20rnds(you can add an adapter to the mag and 30rnds). to me carry a pistol with rifle ammo and 30rnds is sweet!
TheLonewolf313 2 years ago
that weight will catch up to you.
f1rehawkZ 2 years ago
No, forward grip = AOW
Stock = SBR
You do not need a class 3 license to own the above along with machine guns, suppressors, etc. You only need a c3 license to deal them
gunut4FMJ 2 years ago
Pretty nice. It appears the subsonic round didn't have enough pressure to eject, which isn't necessarily a bad thing if you want the ultimate in silence.
IzzyShooter 2 years ago
wait that's a .16 and it's "ripping" through the target?
SpitRhyma 2 years ago
It's .223
97gs500e 2 years ago
I'm kind of a noob when it comes to diff. caliburs. I know about the common ones like 22, 380, 38spl, 357sig, 357mag etc.
So is a .223 a badass round or what? The silencer must be workin real good if it is cuz although I'm muted I expect to see a bigger gas discharge from the barrel.
SpitRhyma 2 years ago
Well, the difference in diameter from a .22 is only .003. However, there is much more cartridge behind it than a .22 long.
governator45 2 years ago
what does a m16 shoot?
SpitRhyma 2 years ago
military versions shoot 5.56mm, which is very, very close to the .223in, but not the same. If you google it there is a ton of info.
governator45 2 years ago
The .223 caliber round is basically a 5.56 millimeter round, like our soldiers would use in an M4 or M16 weapon.
bloodwolf117 2 years ago
.223 Rem is actually .224" in diameter not .223. It is the SAME thing as 5.56mm. 5.56mm is not 5.56mm in diameter. 5.56mm = .218in. A bullet fired through a .223 weapon, which has a bore meant to shoot a .224 projectile, with a diameter of .218 would not make an airtight seal in the barrel, and thus... it would suck. The military should have called the round 5.66 since that's what .224in is in millimeters.
nearadyn 2 years ago
So in the military is the bullet's actual size .218 while being fired through a bigger bore?
Or do they call it a 5.56mm when it's actually bigger than 5.56?
SpitRhyma 2 years ago
it's actually bigger than 5.56....
nearadyn 2 years ago
They call it 5.56 to appease NATO. Europe is all that metric crap. The Brits and other European countries use the same type of magazines and ammo types for logistics reasons.
Warpath2198 2 years ago
Yes. If you shoot a 5.56 in a .223 it will only work once. THen you break out the tools. LOL
However, if you shoot a .223 in a 5.56 you will be not so accurate, but fine. Most ammo sold is .223. However, if you want extreme accuracy, buy .223 for a .223, or 5.56 for the 5.56.
darkelfjst 2 years ago
.223 and 5.56 are the same cartridge. Read earlier post by me. They only do this for maximum confusion. I used to own and M-16 which said 5.56 on the barrel and I put cartridges which said .223 on the rim through it with no problem. I've also put NATO 5.56 through my PLR. The gun hasn't blown up yet. It's all the same shell. look it up on wikipedia and do the math. I did and found it enlightening.
nearadyn 2 years ago
It is just a little bit less hassle if you go the "Trust" route. No finger-prints, no sherrif sign-off. It's less paperwork than buying a car too. The $200 sucks, though.
Are you shooting sub-sonic?
TROOPERfarcry 3 years ago
I've not heard of that. What is the "trust" route and what are it's drawbacks? Yes, I load my own subsonics using Sierra 69 grain HPBT bullets, #1380 and 4.0 grains of IMR Trailboss powder. Don't use that load in longer barrels though such as an AR-15. They will get stuck in the barrel. I'd start with 5.0 grains and adjust the load until your speed is about 980fps
nearadyn 3 years ago
after just hearing the report and the hit it sounded like about 100 yards and i was suprised that the round traveled so slow. that wouldnt yawn or frag at all would it?
diggszEVARWARE 3 years ago
yes, if you modify the projectile a little bit. they will shed the copper jacket in pieces, and the lead core will continue on while tumbling. I've tested them out very well. I would not want to get shot with one! Unmodified, they stay intact and tumble a bit, but aren't nearly as impressive. but rigging them to frag takes about 20 minutes per round and is mind-numbingly boring. So, I don't do it very much now that I'm done testing them.
nearadyn 3 years ago
thats around what i figured the scenario might entail. why not try xm193 in 55 grain? that way the bullet may be light enough to travel at fragging speeds.its so hard to get the right ballistic outcome in these tiny ar-15 barrels but damn are they fun!
diggszEVARWARE 3 years ago
i have tried some government xm193. I shot about 50 shots of it. It works just fine. But I didn't think it was anything special. It seemed to behave like any other 55gr .223 round I've shot. They all perform well in this gun it seems.
nearadyn 3 years ago
i thot those wer illegal?
mmfb14 3 years ago
You can acquire suppressors but theyre a HUGE HASSLE to obtain. Look up suppressor and NFA laws.
Killnine90 3 years ago
these are not a "huge hassle" to obtain really. It's about 2 pages of paperwork to fill out and then a couple hours driving around town getting fingerprinted and getting your local sheriff to sign the paperwork saying you have no major felonies. The hard part to me, is mailing it all to the ATF and waiting a month or so before getting the papers back with the stamp so you can take your new toy home.
nearadyn 3 years ago
very nice setup you got there! I'm guessing the subsonic round doesn't have enough recoil to properly cycle the action? I was just wondering because I'm planning on getting a silencer for my AR and i heard there is problems with getting the subsonic rounds to cycle.
scootah2213 3 years ago
scootah2213, That's right. They won't cycle the action. There is one brand of commercially produced .223 subsonics that do cycle. The problem is, they will jam on every 3rd shot or so and are VERY expensive. it's much better to just load your own and just manually chamber the next round each time. The good thing about that is, without it cycling, it's quieter. There's no "KACHINK" sound of it cycling, which could give away your position when sniping waskally wabbits...heheheheh
nearadyn 3 years ago