just watched again and remembered seeing plane leaving awhat looked like a dark line in the sky and then another plane would follow exactly the line while spewing out a massive trail,sadly have no footage ,but weird shit!
yes i understand what your saying about the chemtrail argument,i to have no first hand evidence of what they are just that they are there and its not natural,let me know anything you find out about aerosols...keep up the great vids ps i did see one scientist say if they increase slightlly the fuel mix it would cause a persistent contrial,i think his name was david Hieth frm canada,he said also it would be very cheap to do!
im in the czech republic and most days chemtrails fill the sky from about 10am blue skies are all most non existent here now...and ive been coming here 12 years and summers and winters used to be wonderful...blue skies, now its like britain shows you what 5 years in the EU can do.Im way beyond arguing after seeing the blatant vandalism in the sky here.thanks for gr8 vid.peace
check out this cockpit video- 2 planes crossing...the lower plane leaving a persistent contrail (you can even see its shadow) - the higher plane (in drier air) leaving a dissipating contrail...
i'm sorry dude, "persistant contrail" are a RARE RARE RARE phenomenon.
you see CHEMICAL persistant or non persistant contrail. aka chemtrails aka GEOENGINEERING aka SOLAR RADIATION MENAGEMENT aka STRATOSPHERIC SULPHUR AEROSOL
says who? You? LOL.. 60 years of contrail science says you are wrong- this paper is from 1972:- it was common enough back then to merit study...conditions for persistence - ice saturated areas- are frequent occurrence-
Measurements of the Growth of the Ice Budget in a Persisting Contrail
R.G. Knollenberg
Journal of the Atmospheric Sciences
Volume 29, Issue 7 (October 1972)
"It is often observed that contrails spread considerably..."
Measurements of the Growth of the Ice Budget in a Persisting Contrail
R.G. Knollenberg
Journal of the Atmospheric Sciences
Volume 29, Issue 7 (October 1972)
"It is often observed that contrails spread considerably...Under favorable conditions, a lateral spread of kilometers is observed...If sufficient air traffic exists, and entire overcast of contrail cirrus may develop and persist for hours with rapid growth in the ice budget of individual contrails."
"not burning poor enough to eject constant particulate"??
This makes no sense. Jet exhaust has plenty of particulate matter in it- its the conditions of the ambient air that dictate whether a contrail will form at all much less persist.
Can you clarify?
color difference is from the sun- why do clouds in the same sky have different colors?
Why do clouds start and stop?
Chances are they were just at different altitudes resulting in different trail characteristics...
The trails are of different compositions. Color differences in clouds are refractive, so you will see different portions of the spectrum. BROWN, Jim, is a composite color, unavailable in ROYGBIV.
Particulate is the result of a bad burn or fuel composition. Bad burn means less power per unit fuel. Cruising, you would notice that.
I'm aware of periodic local variations, and do not deny the weather affects trails. It does not, however, change their composition :-)
herzogsbuick is correct, i myself have footage of planes leaving a small contrail that suddenly turns into an allout spray leaving a huge trail across the sky. It doesn't take much to deduce that the planes are spraying. nice vid PEACE
it is quite possible for 2 planes in the same sky to leave different trails- could have been at different altitudes- even 1000 feet could mean the difference between a persist trail or not
if humidity changes just a bit the persistence will change
also possible that the planes had different engines- resulting in different trails- the more efficient an engine- the more water vapor gets expelled resulting in thicker trails
So...it is quite logical for different trails to exist in the same sky
A trail can't persist without nuclei. No matter what engine, they are not burning poor enough to eject constant particulate; I have photos of a short trail, first section starts abruptly, maybe 1k long, ends abruptly, half k gap, then abrupt start to a section several times longer.
If this were caused by the burn ratio as you posit, the pilot would've experienced two sudden losses of power...going from perfect burn to soot.
just watched again and remembered seeing plane leaving awhat looked like a dark line in the sky and then another plane would follow exactly the line while spewing out a massive trail,sadly have no footage ,but weird shit!
TheRobynhud 1 year ago
yes i understand what your saying about the chemtrail argument,i to have no first hand evidence of what they are just that they are there and its not natural,let me know anything you find out about aerosols...keep up the great vids ps i did see one scientist say if they increase slightlly the fuel mix it would cause a persistent contrial,i think his name was david Hieth frm canada,he said also it would be very cheap to do!
TheRobynhud 1 year ago
im in the czech republic and most days chemtrails fill the sky from about 10am blue skies are all most non existent here now...and ive been coming here 12 years and summers and winters used to be wonderful...blue skies, now its like britain shows you what 5 years in the EU can do.Im way beyond arguing after seeing the blatant vandalism in the sky here.thanks for gr8 vid.peace
TheRobynhud 1 year ago
@TheRobynhud Ya I believe as you, that we are being intentionally saturated with aerosols.
I don't feel confident defending the chemtrail theory at the moment, I need to brush up on my atmospheric science.
BUT, because aerosols can change properties of our atmosphere, my belief that they're spraying us/the atmosphere is not hinged on chemtrails.
I've lived where it's cold and wet, and cold and dry...and I've never seen a car leave a persistant trail...
herzogsbuick 1 year ago
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JimBridger100 is a stupid disinfo. he make a new account just to disinform people of global spraying program. don't waste your time with
JimBridger100. HE GET PAYED FOR COMMENTING CHEMTRAILS VIDEOS
barubba 2 years ago
I wish I got paid!
Airborne Observations of Contrail Effects on the Thermal Radiation Budget
Peter M. Kuhn
Journal of the Atmospheric Sciences
Volume 27, Issue 6 (September 1970)
"The spreading of jet contrails into extensive cirrus sheets is a familiar"
JimBridger100 2 years ago 2
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"SOLAR RADIATION MENAGEMENT"
barubba 2 years ago
check out this cockpit video- 2 planes crossing...the lower plane leaving a persistent contrail (you can even see its shadow) - the higher plane (in drier air) leaving a dissipating contrail...
"Cockpitvideo: Crossing traffic in the sky"
watch?v=95HS8VQO4ig
JimBridger100 2 years ago
i'm sorry dude, "persistant contrail" are a RARE RARE RARE phenomenon.
you see CHEMICAL persistant or non persistant contrail. aka chemtrails aka GEOENGINEERING aka SOLAR RADIATION MENAGEMENT aka STRATOSPHERIC SULPHUR AEROSOL
military stuff....use google
barubba 2 years ago
says who? You? LOL.. 60 years of contrail science says you are wrong- this paper is from 1972:- it was common enough back then to merit study...conditions for persistence - ice saturated areas- are frequent occurrence-
Measurements of the Growth of the Ice Budget in a Persisting Contrail
R.G. Knollenberg
Journal of the Atmospheric Sciences
Volume 29, Issue 7 (October 1972)
"It is often observed that contrails spread considerably..."
JimBridger100 2 years ago
Why does physics say you are wrong?
Measurements of the Growth of the Ice Budget in a Persisting Contrail
R.G. Knollenberg
Journal of the Atmospheric Sciences
Volume 29, Issue 7 (October 1972)
"It is often observed that contrails spread considerably...Under favorable conditions, a lateral spread of kilometers is observed...If sufficient air traffic exists, and entire overcast of contrail cirrus may develop and persist for hours with rapid growth in the ice budget of individual contrails."
JimBridger100 2 years ago
@JimBridger100 Hey just d/led the pdf from AMS's website, will read in the next few days
herzogsbuick 2 years ago
"not burning poor enough to eject constant particulate"??
This makes no sense. Jet exhaust has plenty of particulate matter in it- its the conditions of the ambient air that dictate whether a contrail will form at all much less persist.
Can you clarify?
color difference is from the sun- why do clouds in the same sky have different colors?
Why do clouds start and stop?
Chances are they were just at different altitudes resulting in different trail characteristics...
JimBridger100 2 years ago
"Can you clarify?"
The trails are of different compositions. Color differences in clouds are refractive, so you will see different portions of the spectrum. BROWN, Jim, is a composite color, unavailable in ROYGBIV.
Particulate is the result of a bad burn or fuel composition. Bad burn means less power per unit fuel. Cruising, you would notice that.
I'm aware of periodic local variations, and do not deny the weather affects trails. It does not, however, change their composition :-)
herzogsbuick 2 years ago
herzogsbuick is correct, i myself have footage of planes leaving a small contrail that suddenly turns into an allout spray leaving a huge trail across the sky. It doesn't take much to deduce that the planes are spraying. nice vid PEACE
lowrider1007 2 years ago
why can't it be that the plane flew thru a pocket of cooler/more most air?
Contrails have gaps all the time...contrails behave very similar to cirrus clouds...
Why do cirrus clouds have gaps?
JimBridger100 2 years ago
""Contrails have gaps all the time"""
HAHAH......very funny, i'm serious. very very funny
barubba 2 years ago
jimbridger100 is trolling
lowrider1007 2 years ago
you're trolling, aren't you? faithinscience
lowrider1007 2 years ago
it is quite possible for 2 planes in the same sky to leave different trails- could have been at different altitudes- even 1000 feet could mean the difference between a persist trail or not
if humidity changes just a bit the persistence will change
also possible that the planes had different engines- resulting in different trails- the more efficient an engine- the more water vapor gets expelled resulting in thicker trails
So...it is quite logical for different trails to exist in the same sky
JimBridger100 2 years ago
@JimBridger100 Thanks for the reply!
A trail can't persist without nuclei. No matter what engine, they are not burning poor enough to eject constant particulate; I have photos of a short trail, first section starts abruptly, maybe 1k long, ends abruptly, half k gap, then abrupt start to a section several times longer.
If this were caused by the burn ratio as you posit, the pilot would've experienced two sudden losses of power...going from perfect burn to soot.
And the color difference?
herzogsbuick 2 years ago