Religion has resulted in wars and made some hypocritical yes but it's more of a quest for a reason of life people are confused and don't know what to latch onto they are kinda like bugs and a zapper they see the light but don't know if it is real or not
@Poseidon500 LOL sorry, me myself as an atheist dont go around saying "FUCK YOUR GOD", but i do mind what other people believe in when it starts affecting my life, such as when people start using the bible as an excuse to say gays should not marry
@pigballs911 Man, it's none of my business if gays get married. Christians are not supposed to care about the world. They are told in the Bible to "Be in the world, but not off it."
So these religious nuts who try to push their religion on the world, are breaking their own rules.
Alright?
P.S. Knock it off with the trolling man. WTF does sdfasgg mean anyway?
@Poseidon500 even though its none of your business, SOME people in your religion DO say that marriages between gays are bad, thats why some atheists have a problem with the religion, but not people. i wasnt trolling, i was just typing random stuff to see if you were another christian who censors his youtube comments
Fuck your god. I've never had a atheist come to my door telling me what to believe. Christians (or anyone else) ultimately have a right to believe whatever they want (regardless of how stupid) it is. But it's fucking bull shit how jesus lovers are always trying establish a connect between their religion and the goverment and want everyone else to bow down to their "god" to pubically pray. Fuck the arrogant bastards, their fairy tale messiah, and the holy spirit too.
@atheistrage Well, for one thing, I am not one of the idiots who comes along and knocks on yoor door and shoves it down your throat.
Secondly, you calling me a fuck-tard is quite ironic due to the fact that you should have done yuour research and viewed a few of my other videos and maybe you would have a less prejudiced stance on my view, which makes you an ignorant prejudiced "fuck-tard"
Thirdly... You may refer to my first reply towards you. cont....
@Poseidon500 Maybe you're not one of the people who knock on doors. But the street is literally crawling with them. Here in Utah they're called missionarys. In Oregon they're called jahova's witness. Many christians seem to think their ingorant certitudes make them superior to everyone else.
They are the absolute perversion of what Christianity represents. So are many other relegious sects who have stolen the title "Christian' and twisted it into paranoia and hate.
The Phelps family for example. What a bunch of hatefull zealots.
@Poseidon500 You're right! That was a bad example. In fact jehova's witness's don't believe in christ. They only promote the old testament. But from my prespective as a non believer, it's pretty much the same thing. Part of the same book anyway.
I know 'Baptists" who think you are not 'saved" if you do not have your head dunked underwater by a pastor (like he/she) is special magic shamman or something, (Yet Christ said it's the Spirit that Baptizes) and Cathloics who believe that the communion bread actually becomes the FLESH of Christ, when even in the bible, there is not a reference to this, and it obviously was meant as a symbolic jesture. The wierdness has no end.
@atheistrage Fourth... and finally..... your use of teenager insults, such as "fuck-tard" is right along the lines of "douchebag" or using the term "gay" to refer to something lame. You know...lame.. like you.
@Poseidon500 OK. I'm ready. Give me your worst buddy. But if you don't mind me saying so, you seem to be full of a little rage yourself. Did it occur to you that some ahteists have a legitimate reason to be tired of conservative christians constantly trying to impose their religion into the goverment in a country that's supposed to have freedom of religion ? In fact from your video I get the impression that your trying to be both an atheist and a christian simultaneously. How brilant is that ?
@atheistrage Well first off, I am not one of those fundamentalist idiots. Extreemists from both sides of the issue really piss me off. Extreemists in general piss me off.
Religious fundies, and atheist fundies like yourself. IT's like this pal, I don't hate you for being an atheist, so why do you have such a hate on for me? I don't bother attacking atheists, I prefer discussion. Yet here you are, more than a year after giving me shit.
@Poseidon500 Dude, first off, I don't understand how this "more than a year shit " is applicable to me, since I just discovered your chaanel like 10 seconds after I left my intinial comment.
Second: I don't "necessarily have [HATE] you at all. But I thought I explained myself rather well in my previous comments. Hep me out here.
@atheistrage I actually agree with you to a point. It is not the job of a "christian" to ram it down your throat or to have the law force you you "bow down"
However, you can say "fuck those arrogant bastards" but please do not belittle the Messiah, or the Holy Spirit which I firmly believe do exist. Logically you do not know if they exist or not, so telling these (this) entity to go fuck itself, or whatever is VERY unwise. Not all thesits are illogical sheep.
@Poseidon500 Right, logically I don't "know" whether the holy spirit exists, but "logically" I don't konw if my truck is the messiah either. I don't consider saying "fuck the holy spirit" anymore unwise than someone else might consider saying "fuck my door knob" unwise. If the god or jesus or real, than I doubt they will hold you accountable for my blasphemy.
@atheistrage Well, if someone told you to go fuck yourself, would you have anything more to do with said person? Probably not. It has nothing to do with being held accountable. It has to do with knowing God or not. If you disconnect yourself by blaspheming the holy Spirit, then God will never know you. And therefore no salvation will be awaiting you.
Of course, that's how the dogma is interpreted. God does not send people to hell, hell is just there waiting, unless...
@Poseidon500 Believe it or not. People tell me to go fuck myself all the time. For me the point of something like "the blasphemy challange" is to disassociate myself from "god". I guess one thing that bothers me about religion is that I can accept that something is unknowable. For example I don't know what (if anything) happens when we die, but niether do you, or the guys who wrote the bible. Because you want to believe doesn't really mean you "know".
@atheistrage There is a big difference between religious theists, and spiritual theists. I am a theist, but I subscribe to no religion, [basic catholicisim has it's merits, just drop all the bling, and coverups and corruption ; ) ] However I do see your point. My theistic spiritual and opiniopns about Christ are just that, opinions. It is my opinion that I know that the One Creator God exists.
I could very well be wrong, but I do not waist my life biblethumping.
@Poseidon500 To me, there's a distinction between having respect for a belief (or idea), and having respect for the individual person. (although I'm not saying I never crossed the line). I you (or anymore) came up to tell me that my truck is a god, I'm not going to disrespect your personal rights or "hate" you. But I'm giong to rididcule what I consider to be absolute non sense all day long.
@atheistrage That would be nonsense. However, we do have an established so called record of the events as written in the New Testament of the Bible, which has nothing to do with your truck, and it is up to the individual to accept it or not. The same way you would accept Plato, or Socretes, or Sun Tzu, or not accept them at all.
@atheistrage The same evidence that makes someone liek you believe any form of ancient history. Also, a lot of the cities mentioned in the bible still exist.
@Poseidon500 Rigth, I understand many of the cities still exist. But not what relevance that has to anything. I am even willing to entertain the possibilty that the man refered to in the bible known as jesus existed. But was he the son of "god", or the prophet of "god" ? No, I see absolutely no resoan to think that's anything more than a childish story.
@atheistrage Getting tortured to death is FAR from the ending of a "childish" story.
What parts of the story do you see as childish? I see the tale as being rather serious in nature, and that how humans are so arrogant and hatefull that their society would murder their own savior.
@Poseidon500 Excellect. I'm glad you agree. I'm almost starting to like you (athough you would probably hate me if you saw the dozen or so vids I've posted here on you tube). Actually, I was typing a lenghty reply to your "noah's arc" rebuttal, but my wirelesss router is a peice of shit and I pulled the plug to start over. I will send you a another message shortly if my personal circumstances permit. Perhaps I'll check out some of your other vids as well.
@Poseidon500 I have to say that some of the parts I see a childish would be Noah's magis arc, god making man adam out of dirt, or idea idea that the earth is 6,000 years old.
It's entertainment. A lot of it is simply entertainment. Come on you must get a kick out of a thief like VFX who would steal from children getting his ass handed to him?
I loved seeing VFX getting his ass handed to him. I even tried to warn him about how his enemies could refute all his arguements. He blocked me for my efforts. ; )
I'm sorry, but I fail to see what was so hate filled in the original video to which you are responding.
However, I would concur with you on the matter of certain atheists having zeal essentially the same as other fundamentalists. I have confronted some of them.
I have gone over the line myself a few times. When confronted with the same old anti-reason, anti-science, dogma posing as rationality, I have sometimes been too rough.
It is hard to know where to stop when the others won't stop.
With a starting line like, "why do you atheists always..."
I take offence to that unabashed generalization.
And as for wars starting because of "I'm right and your wrong"... Well, what wars have ever been waged in the name of atheism? My friend, wars are often (not always) started on religious premises, not the lack of religious premises...
Furthermore, atheistic zeal is a defensive movement, not offensive...
You definitely come across as one. Anyone would become a misanthrope if they listened to everything the trolls put out their.
P.S. Trolling is not named after the magical monsters, but after a certain method of fishing. That understanding should help you in your future Youtube endeavours.
Well you should then upload better quality videos, with better lighting, and a clean or presentable background. No offense but your videos reek of basement dweller fail.
it goes both ways mate christians stir shit up to so dont get on your high horse and act all mighty to us shit happens get over it your no better than the guy that posted the video Fuck your god! being as you replied to it You sit are a HIPPICRIT
Your response towards radicals is poorly justified. Is it not the radicals and extremists who define each other and therefore the 'norm'? Your video is contradictory to your, or what I believe to be your, message because all this video does is further antagonize these zealots. I certainly do agree that you should indeed say this, yet I only disagree in how you've said it.
I do not challenge your beliefs, and I say this with respect, stupidterms1.
Well, I was just telling it from the side of those who are sick of the whole thing. A persons spirituality or lack their of, is their own business and nobody elses.
That was the only point I was trying to make. Thanks though. I qam hoping that both sides will see this and maybe learn something from it.
Religion has resulted in wars and made some hypocritical yes but it's more of a quest for a reason of life people are confused and don't know what to latch onto they are kinda like bugs and a zapper they see the light but don't know if it is real or not
thisisacryforhelp1 6 months ago
sdfasgg
pigballs911 1 year ago
@pigballs911 WTF?
Poseidon500 1 year ago
@Poseidon500 LOL sorry, me myself as an atheist dont go around saying "FUCK YOUR GOD", but i do mind what other people believe in when it starts affecting my life, such as when people start using the bible as an excuse to say gays should not marry
pigballs911 1 year ago
@pigballs911 Man, it's none of my business if gays get married. Christians are not supposed to care about the world. They are told in the Bible to "Be in the world, but not off it."
So these religious nuts who try to push their religion on the world, are breaking their own rules.
Alright?
P.S. Knock it off with the trolling man. WTF does sdfasgg mean anyway?
Poseidon500 1 year ago
@Poseidon500 even though its none of your business, SOME people in your religion DO say that marriages between gays are bad, thats why some atheists have a problem with the religion, but not people. i wasnt trolling, i was just typing random stuff to see if you were another christian who censors his youtube comments
pigballs911 1 year ago
@pigballs911 I don't censor shit, and my spirituality is NOT a religion. It's personal.
That's how it's supposed to be anyway.
Poseidon500 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Cool. Whatever. You should have just received my rebuttal. Do you spend all day on the internet ?
atheistrage 1 year ago
Fuck your god. I've never had a atheist come to my door telling me what to believe. Christians (or anyone else) ultimately have a right to believe whatever they want (regardless of how stupid) it is. But it's fucking bull shit how jesus lovers are always trying establish a connect between their religion and the goverment and want everyone else to bow down to their "god" to pubically pray. Fuck the arrogant bastards, their fairy tale messiah, and the holy spirit too.
atheistrage 1 year ago
@atheistrage Take your rage and shove it back up the arse you pulled it out of.
Poseidon500 1 year ago
@Poseidon500 Brilliant rebuttal you fuck tard. Why don't you go ahead and assist me with that.
atheistrage 1 year ago
@atheistrage Well, for one thing, I am not one of the idiots who comes along and knocks on yoor door and shoves it down your throat.
Secondly, you calling me a fuck-tard is quite ironic due to the fact that you should have done yuour research and viewed a few of my other videos and maybe you would have a less prejudiced stance on my view, which makes you an ignorant prejudiced "fuck-tard"
Thirdly... You may refer to my first reply towards you. cont....
Poseidon500 1 year ago
@Poseidon500 Maybe you're not one of the people who knock on doors. But the street is literally crawling with them. Here in Utah they're called missionarys. In Oregon they're called jahova's witness. Many christians seem to think their ingorant certitudes make them superior to everyone else.
atheistrage 1 year ago
@atheistrage Jehovia's wittnesses!??
They are the absolute perversion of what Christianity represents. So are many other relegious sects who have stolen the title "Christian' and twisted it into paranoia and hate.
The Phelps family for example. What a bunch of hatefull zealots.
Poseidon500 1 year ago
@Poseidon500 You're right! That was a bad example. In fact jehova's witness's don't believe in christ. They only promote the old testament. But from my prespective as a non believer, it's pretty much the same thing. Part of the same book anyway.
atheistrage 1 year ago
@atheistrage Well, it's not the same at all.
I know 'Baptists" who think you are not 'saved" if you do not have your head dunked underwater by a pastor (like he/she) is special magic shamman or something, (Yet Christ said it's the Spirit that Baptizes) and Cathloics who believe that the communion bread actually becomes the FLESH of Christ, when even in the bible, there is not a reference to this, and it obviously was meant as a symbolic jesture. The wierdness has no end.
Poseidon500 1 year ago
@atheistrage Fourth... and finally..... your use of teenager insults, such as "fuck-tard" is right along the lines of "douchebag" or using the term "gay" to refer to something lame. You know...lame.. like you.
Poseidon500 1 year ago
@Poseidon500 I admit I stole the term "fuck tard" from someone else because I found it asuming.
atheistrage 1 year ago
@atheistrage I am a hell of alot more briliant than you.
Get your arse back here and let us have it out. I'll take you on ANYTIME!
Oh yeah. I got an itchy capslock finger LOL.
Your move...come and get it.
Poseidon500 1 year ago
@Poseidon500 OK. I'm ready. Give me your worst buddy. But if you don't mind me saying so, you seem to be full of a little rage yourself. Did it occur to you that some ahteists have a legitimate reason to be tired of conservative christians constantly trying to impose their religion into the goverment in a country that's supposed to have freedom of religion ? In fact from your video I get the impression that your trying to be both an atheist and a christian simultaneously. How brilant is that ?
atheistrage 1 year ago
@atheistrage Well first off, I am not one of those fundamentalist idiots. Extreemists from both sides of the issue really piss me off. Extreemists in general piss me off.
Religious fundies, and atheist fundies like yourself. IT's like this pal, I don't hate you for being an atheist, so why do you have such a hate on for me? I don't bother attacking atheists, I prefer discussion. Yet here you are, more than a year after giving me shit.
Your not full of rage, your are full of hate
Poseidon500 1 year ago
@Poseidon500 Dude, first off, I don't understand how this "more than a year shit " is applicable to me, since I just discovered your chaanel like 10 seconds after I left my intinial comment.
Second: I don't "necessarily have [HATE] you at all. But I thought I explained myself rather well in my previous comments. Hep me out here.
atheistrage 1 year ago
@atheistrage I actually agree with you to a point. It is not the job of a "christian" to ram it down your throat or to have the law force you you "bow down"
However, you can say "fuck those arrogant bastards" but please do not belittle the Messiah, or the Holy Spirit which I firmly believe do exist. Logically you do not know if they exist or not, so telling these (this) entity to go fuck itself, or whatever is VERY unwise. Not all thesits are illogical sheep.
Poseidon500 1 year ago
@Poseidon500 Right, logically I don't "know" whether the holy spirit exists, but "logically" I don't konw if my truck is the messiah either. I don't consider saying "fuck the holy spirit" anymore unwise than someone else might consider saying "fuck my door knob" unwise. If the god or jesus or real, than I doubt they will hold you accountable for my blasphemy.
atheistrage 1 year ago
@atheistrage Well, if someone told you to go fuck yourself, would you have anything more to do with said person? Probably not. It has nothing to do with being held accountable. It has to do with knowing God or not. If you disconnect yourself by blaspheming the holy Spirit, then God will never know you. And therefore no salvation will be awaiting you.
Of course, that's how the dogma is interpreted. God does not send people to hell, hell is just there waiting, unless...
Poseidon500 1 year ago
@Poseidon500 Believe it or not. People tell me to go fuck myself all the time. For me the point of something like "the blasphemy challange" is to disassociate myself from "god". I guess one thing that bothers me about religion is that I can accept that something is unknowable. For example I don't know what (if anything) happens when we die, but niether do you, or the guys who wrote the bible. Because you want to believe doesn't really mean you "know".
atheistrage 1 year ago
@atheistrage There is a big difference between religious theists, and spiritual theists. I am a theist, but I subscribe to no religion, [basic catholicisim has it's merits, just drop all the bling, and coverups and corruption ; ) ] However I do see your point. My theistic spiritual and opiniopns about Christ are just that, opinions. It is my opinion that I know that the One Creator God exists.
I could very well be wrong, but I do not waist my life biblethumping.
Poseidon500 1 year ago
@Poseidon500 To me, there's a distinction between having respect for a belief (or idea), and having respect for the individual person. (although I'm not saying I never crossed the line). I you (or anymore) came up to tell me that my truck is a god, I'm not going to disrespect your personal rights or "hate" you. But I'm giong to rididcule what I consider to be absolute non sense all day long.
atheistrage 1 year ago
@atheistrage That would be nonsense. However, we do have an established so called record of the events as written in the New Testament of the Bible, which has nothing to do with your truck, and it is up to the individual to accept it or not. The same way you would accept Plato, or Socretes, or Sun Tzu, or not accept them at all.
Poseidon500 1 year ago
@Poseidon500 "established" by who ? What evidence is their for any of to divine claims made in the bible other than that it says so in that book ?
atheistrage 1 year ago
@atheistrage The same evidence that makes someone liek you believe any form of ancient history. Also, a lot of the cities mentioned in the bible still exist.
Poseidon500 1 year ago
@Poseidon500 Rigth, I understand many of the cities still exist. But not what relevance that has to anything. I am even willing to entertain the possibilty that the man refered to in the bible known as jesus existed. But was he the son of "god", or the prophet of "god" ? No, I see absolutely no resoan to think that's anything more than a childish story.
atheistrage 1 year ago
@atheistrage Getting tortured to death is FAR from the ending of a "childish" story.
What parts of the story do you see as childish? I see the tale as being rather serious in nature, and that how humans are so arrogant and hatefull that their society would murder their own savior.
Poseidon500 1 year ago
@Poseidon500 I see the entire thnig as childish. I'm sure it gives you comfort. But it's little more than gibberish.
atheistrage 1 year ago
@atheistrage Comfort? Man, life would be a lot more comfortable for me if I were an atheist instead of a theist.
Maybe that is why you are an atheist.
Poseidon500 1 year ago
@Poseidon500 Excellect. I'm glad you agree. I'm almost starting to like you (athough you would probably hate me if you saw the dozen or so vids I've posted here on you tube). Actually, I was typing a lenghty reply to your "noah's arc" rebuttal, but my wirelesss router is a peice of shit and I pulled the plug to start over. I will send you a another message shortly if my personal circumstances permit. Perhaps I'll check out some of your other vids as well.
atheistrage 1 year ago
@atheistrage Agree? I thought I dissagreed with your assertion that my theism made me comfortable?
Oh the things I could do if I did not have my theistic belief.... ohhh the revenge........ LOL
Just kidding.
Poseidon500 1 year ago
@Poseidon500 I have to say that some of the parts I see a childish would be Noah's magis arc, god making man adam out of dirt, or idea idea that the earth is 6,000 years old.
atheistrage 1 year ago
@atheistrage all matter in the universe is basically made up of "dust"
Protons, neutrons, and electrons. They are the smallest basic particles, which is essentially "dust".
How was Noah's arc magic? The flood was more likely a local event. Humanity would not have spread too far from it's orgin at that point in time.
Earth being 6000 years old? Only the hard core fundies believe that. maybe earth as it is now is only 600 years old. Maybe not.
Poseidon500 1 year ago
lol awsome
kayleekolishyo 2 years ago
Yep, jackasses for jesus and asshole atheists.
MentalWhackjob 2 years ago
Yup.
Everything should be practiced in moderation, including religious, or non-religious philosophies.
Poseidon500 2 years ago
Haha I love it "F*ck your Atheism" hahahahaaa!!
Americangirl787 2 years ago
I know, I know. I could not resist. It was also one of my first videos.
Poseidon500 2 years ago
It's entertainment. A lot of it is simply entertainment. Come on you must get a kick out of a thief like VFX who would steal from children getting his ass handed to him?
WoundedSelf 2 years ago
I loved seeing VFX getting his ass handed to him. I even tried to warn him about how his enemies could refute all his arguements. He blocked me for my efforts. ; )
Poseidon500 2 years ago
I'm sorry, but I fail to see what was so hate filled in the original video to which you are responding.
However, I would concur with you on the matter of certain atheists having zeal essentially the same as other fundamentalists. I have confronted some of them.
I have gone over the line myself a few times. When confronted with the same old anti-reason, anti-science, dogma posing as rationality, I have sometimes been too rough.
It is hard to know where to stop when the others won't stop.
ScientistKeith 2 years ago
Wow!
With a starting line like, "why do you atheists always..."
I take offence to that unabashed generalization.
And as for wars starting because of "I'm right and your wrong"... Well, what wars have ever been waged in the name of atheism? My friend, wars are often (not always) started on religious premises, not the lack of religious premises...
Furthermore, atheistic zeal is a defensive movement, not offensive...
twothlesswonder 2 years ago
SORRY to offend.
Poseidon500 2 years ago
Or misanthropes.
cpiratebee 2 years ago
I really am not a misanthrope.
Poseidon500 2 years ago
You definitely come across as one. Anyone would become a misanthrope if they listened to everything the trolls put out their.
P.S. Trolling is not named after the magical monsters, but after a certain method of fishing. That understanding should help you in your future Youtube endeavours.
cpiratebee 2 years ago
If you say so.
What you have to say does not matter, as of yet.
Poseidon500 2 years ago
*there
I can't believe I just did that. (-_-)
cpiratebee 2 years ago
Sorry about that.
Poseidon500 2 years ago
Basement dwellers make the world an awful place. LOL
cpiratebee 2 years ago
I amk neither.
Poseidon500 2 years ago
Well you should then upload better quality videos, with better lighting, and a clean or presentable background. No offense but your videos reek of basement dweller fail.
cpiratebee 2 years ago
it goes both ways mate christians stir shit up to so dont get on your high horse and act all mighty to us shit happens get over it your no better than the guy that posted the video Fuck your god! being as you replied to it You sit are a HIPPICRIT
hambone9119 2 years ago
I sit am a hyppicrit?
NOw if I were to laugh at your typos, i would be a hypocrite fo I make many typos.
This was just an opinion. You don't like it , fine. You aree welcome to yours.
Poseidon500 2 years ago
The point I was making was little kenny is from the U.S.
I was not clear.
AbitaVets 2 years ago
It's all good. Thanknyou.
Poseidon500 2 years ago
Your response towards radicals is poorly justified. Is it not the radicals and extremists who define each other and therefore the 'norm'? Your video is contradictory to your, or what I believe to be your, message because all this video does is further antagonize these zealots. I certainly do agree that you should indeed say this, yet I only disagree in how you've said it.
I do not challenge your beliefs, and I say this with respect, stupidterms1.
stupidterms1 2 years ago
That's cool. I was a buit stressed when I made this video, and I am quite new at this.
Take it easy and peace man.
Poseidon500 2 years ago
Flawless victory.
MonkeyGuitar 3 years ago
Well, I was just telling it from the side of those who are sick of the whole thing. A persons spirituality or lack their of, is their own business and nobody elses.
That was the only point I was trying to make. Thanks though. I qam hoping that both sides will see this and maybe learn something from it.
Poseidon500 3 years ago
That is the best part of the U.S. freedom of religion to have or not have a GOD.
A lot of atheist types misread the constitution and think its" freedom from religion."
.
AbitaVets 2 years ago
Well this is another beef I have, the U.S. is not the only country that has these freedoms.
Many do.
Poseidon500 2 years ago
Touche.
but even more do not have freedom of religion.
Ask a Coptic christian or a Jew in the middle east.
AbitaVets 2 years ago
That is why religion should have no part in a nations government.
Poseidon500 2 years ago
But so much bad results when god is removed totally from public square.
I go back to a post of yours.
part capitalism part socialism you said(quite correctly)
part GOD part secular. hybred society would be best.
have a chance to think about those questions I directmessaged you?
thx
AbitaVets
AbitaVets 2 years ago