Be a nobody by turn your "will" over to God. Be somebody by keeping and strengthening your will in God's light. My God does not want me to turn my will over to him. My God wants me to have a strong mind, will, and spirit being a complete person in his image.
I agree with you totally!!! Your insights are poignant and accurate. AA promotes arrant hypocrisy and intra-psychic and emotional damage. 12-step groups can have a disastrous effect on vulnerable and desperate ppl who are in need of validation and consideration. Yet AA further demoralizes the newcomer by stripping him/her of their humanity and individuality. AA manipulates the person to actually perceiving themselves as a "disease." Rather than having a problem that can be overccome. AA=DESPAIR.
Sorry to hear about your health. First of all some alcoholics can help other alcoholics toghther because they cant do it on there own. They know how they operate and share there strengths wisdom and hopes. Aa doesnt make people quit is helps, its not as easy as you say "they stop drinking". Maybe you should just stop smoking. Would you rather have that man you love so much end up on the street? Or dead from alcoholism? Aa doesnt cut people out of lives, it saves people. It has saved mine!
I am not realy sure about the AA, and why any individual needs to buy into a system to turn around the terrible affliction that alcohoism is. I only hope that anybody searching articles like this finds a way to remove alcohol from their life if it has become a problem.
My experience is that many people in AA are pretty self serving, me too somedays. If I were you I wouldn't leave a bunch of money to anyone in AA, cause it's bad for us. Sorry to hear your young friend pulled away. I hope other friends will support you in you declining health. AA is just a tool to stop drinking and it offers 12 steps to improve your life. With the passage of time and use of the steps your friend may be able to return as a changed and better person. I sorry your time is limited.
Sir, I watched your video with great interest and empathy. I have spent the past 2 years of my life within the program you speak so poorly of. Not once have I ever heard expressed views of detachment in the way you describe. Detachment is NOT a part of the program, not to my knowledge. I cannot think of one sentence in our book which encourages detachment from relationships, rather we encourage mending relationships. You have a very skewed view of what aa suggests to its members.
Concerned solely or chiefly with your own interests. That is why you are alone. AA teaches to detach from people who cause pain and bring us down and not to be brought down by them.
maddog im glad you spoke up i just got home from an AA meeting ive been sober almost 5 years and i hate AA ive forced myself to it everday for the first 3 years and to this day am not as happy as they seem to be they seem to think that once there sober there better than everyone else and put on this big show in the rooms how well they are doing while the few that are depressed and completetly honest are the ones that go out and die or end up in jail because they werent like them .
Someone used a 12 step group to hurt me very badly. Manipulated someone close to me to hurt me. That was 17 years ago and I still struggle today as a result.
I went through kindness and kept drinking. I went rock bottom and stopped. Drunks will use anyone to keep drinking. Left with nothing they may stop, wake up, and drink the coffee.
Thanks you disgust me! I'd be dead if it wasn't for AA and I am not bible thumping or dragging people from their families. I dontThis video is a cry to your son.
Sad....sounds like success cost you your family...still worried about where to leave your money...still trying to control other people..Try not focusing on your son's and A.a's problems and look why you are still not happy. Keep it simple and try sending him a card and not demanding that he acts on it or even asking him to react...Just do it out of love...no manipulation...Time may heal your wounds if you quit trying to get him to act the way you think he should...
AS an Outsider to AA, & NOT being an alcoholic, YOU really have no idea, pal, what you're trying to talk about here. Inside AA, drunks do not 'counsel' other drunks, despite what you erroneously think. If your boy has 'detached' from you .. then it's his OWN fault & due to his OWN DEFECTS, not anything to do with AA. AA doesn't 'poison' anyone's mind. You are a sick, troubled soul, & you need to look at BLAMING other avenues than AA for your distress .. you poor fellow ...
@colindominy I've been sober in AA for 12 years. I don't like 90% of AA's I meet. I'm a free thinker & I go to AA to stay sober, not to win a popularity contest. In spite of pleas from fellow AA's to contact my dad I have chosen not to do so. I don't hate my dad but his life practices oppose everything I believe in. AA doesn't poison anything. There are people within ALL institutions who are corrupt. Thank you, colindominy, for speaking the truth. I'm in AA but refuse to be a sheep.
@danodanodano357 Read what I responded to colindominy. Accusing random institutions or fellowships of "cultism" is too familiar to the older practice of accusing anyone we hate of being "communist" or a "witch." The truth is that most people who hate AA have never read 12 step literature or attended a meeting. Like every other gathering of humans, AA has people who SUCK. That's humanity, folks. People suck. I don't like most of the people I see at meetings. I go to stay sober.
@danodanodano357 I could probably stay sober without AA. And I could do without a lot of the unfortunate remarks I hear from ignorant, recovering drunks before during & after meetings. However,there is that handful of people who, like myself, grew up in the punk/hardcore scene, like tattoos, motorcycles and alternative literature and art of all mediums. Some of us are atheist. We don't get along with everyone but we're still in AA. We're not religious but we're still sober...
@danodanodano357 Most cult persecute those who leave. The general consensus of people leaving in multiple states in my experience is one of "don't let the door hit your ass on the way out. If you change your mind, we'll be here when you come back." THAT'S NOT A CULT LIKE ATTITUDE. CULTS WRING YOUR PHONE OFF THE HOOK WHEN YOU LEAVE. ASK ANYONE WHO USED TO BE A MOONY OR A SCIENTOLOGIST. We don't do that in AA. And if you go to a meeting where people don't respect bounderies,...
@danodanodano357 You simply tell them to fuck off and find a different. I'm sorry your impression of AA is so negative. I wish I could find who ever tainted your vision of us and have a few words with them. We're so diverse it's unbelievable. I've been sober for 12 years and I still butt heads with AA's all the time. FUCK'EM. Like I said before, I'm there to stay sober not to win a popularity contest. The sheep herd goes one way and I go the other. But I'm still sober
He contradicts himself saying that an organisation can't stop someone drinking, that they can only stop drinking if they want to, then going on to blame this organisation for being the cause of his son leaving his life. Surely by this logic, it was your son's choice alone to leave your life.
I'm sure alcohol has pulled more families apart than A.A has.
AA doesn't make you do anything it your choice and your choice alone do you wanna get better i know i do and thats why i go i make the choices in my life because its my life.i thought i could do this on my own but i couldn't maby you can but i know i cant i love AA .
I think you have the program of Alcoholics Anonymous confused with Alanon. I'd suggest that you re-read chapters 7 and 9 (Working With Others and The Family Afterwords).
As an alcoholic who has recovered, I know that durng my drinking I pushed people that were closest to me out of my life; including my parents. The 12 Steps have "enabled" me to become the person (and son) that I never let let develop because of my drinking.
I feel sorry for this guy, so bitter and full of anger, it's a shame he will die without ever facing up to his actions & making amends to his son. I imagine it was a very difficult decision his son made and I feel for him. It seems to me that if detaching from his father was what he felt was the right choice for him then it is right. After seeing this public display of his father's character I can only imagine the horrors he must have put his son through "behind closed doors". A very sad video
if your dog could go to the shop and open the tin of food itself,, it would not put up with your crap,, so this kid learned how to get his own food and how to open the tin and now he dont need you and he can see what you are,, his eyes have been opened ,, and you want to blame AA,, blame your mother for making you a spineless turd,, the games up you washed up pervert !!
this guy was porking a young kid and manipulating him,, now the kid has got some self esteem and sanity this old goat is trying to blame AA. What a selfish old man you are,, you want this young kid to stay near death's door cos you want to promise to leave him stuff in your shitty will,, hey not everyone is as heartless and as selfish as you.. and another thing big shot,, your home is a disgrace,, get it cleaned up you scruffy fucker,, !!
No one is forced to go to A.A., and stay sober or work the steps. I am sorry your sick. But maybe if you were not so bitter people wouldn't walk out on you
One ego arguing with another ego telling another ego that this is right, wrong blahblahblahbla.........it's all mind, sad but this dude could use a 4th step so he is not on his death bed with a resentment with AA.....blessings......stay cool
Haha ...this is great....if we are all "interwoven" then you shouldn't feel disconnected to your son because he doesn't talk to you or if we are interwoven why judgment on "aa and the organization" ........all ego baby, that's why your dog loves you unconditionally....free of ego....AA, Ekhart Tolle, Buddhism, true teachings of Jesus all point to the ego as the main source of our suffering......sounds like grandpa is a little attached to a certain idea!
first 164 pages probably 20 times. The last stories who knows how many times. I see this all to much in AA that you guys tend to alienate the rest of your real families in lieu of a need of acceptance, with your ego crushing personalities. This program should only be for the weakminded and the ones that don;t know about themselves.
successfully convinced himself that if he drinks he will die. Now if you blackout after a couple drinks, or black out for that matter you may have a drinking problem. But you aa heads need to realise that those family members that are having a good time on the weekend arent drunks and that you have a resentment that you have successfully convinced yourself that you cannot do that. I have been indoctrined with this book since youth. I know it better than most people in AA. I have read your
you people have no clue exists or not. My mom will call anyone in my family who has one too many an alcoholic and tries to brainwash them like she is. See you fuckers are told every day that if you drink you will die. You know what that does to your Pshycology, like the guy that stays clean 20 years then drinks himself to death has been inocculated with your garbage to believe that if he drinks he will die. So if takes that one drink, he is already telling himself he is helpless and
Until now and I am 31, I barely fucking drink and smoke weed a hit maybe 3-4 times a week. You guys gave me the biggest resentment I have ever had. Preaching that you have all of this wisdom when in actuality you guys are too scared to talk to your family. My mom has over 20 years and has successfully alienated my sister and I from my whole family, both my mom and my dads side. My whole family feels sorry for me that my mom ingrained this social program for the fear of being judged by a God
Tobacco has been proven to be the most addicting substance more than Heroin. Yes AA is a cult, look up the definition. You guys in AA are Vacuum of Hierarchy, most people there won't help the people they don't want around. Then all I hear is look how good I am doing from the women with time. I was raised in an AA family, it ruined me. I have been told since the age of 15 that I am an alcoholic when I drank on the weekends with all my other normal HS friends. I was called an alcoholic all
@Normankay I did this video. I can no longer sign into it since things merged with Google. I want to add maybe I can post a video response. Thanks for the comments. This is a combination of AA and his Church that feels taht Catholics are evil and connected with Satan. My Healthy is really poor at the moment. There has been contact. But there is little hope of resolving the issue. I will see if I can do a video Response.
I've always been on the fence with AA, not ever really having a well-formed opinion about the organization. I can now safely say after watching this video that I have been swayed. How can anyone disagree with this man? His yellow mustache, shitty smokers voice, and horseshoe haircut could sway the most fickle of retards, such as myself. Thank you, old fart, for showing me the way.
sir I don't know if u r still living and I hope u r. But u r not an alcoholic and u don't understand this at all. I'm sorry ur son detached from u but that is on him not the program. I would have been able to stay sober because of this program. I am alive to tell u that u r wrong. alcohol is baffling strong and is a drug that can take a person and ruin his life. it is unlike ur tobacco which can be given up after a 3 day period of not smoking.
@reasonsunknownable I mean I would not have been able to stay sober if it weren't for this program it has saved my life. I have real friends now and I love life unlike before I was insane and lived to drink chemicals.
Can someone explain this video to me? His son has abandoned him because of AA? I honestly didn't get it and I would really really appriciate it if someone explained it to me. thanks.
you have to reliase that this programs never forces anyone to do anything. It is a program of suggestions. This video u made is only made for you to feel better about ur life and decsion that your boy has made. I love how you just blame a program that might have saved ur sons life. But thats not good enough, Let me ask u a question. Would u rather your son live and resent u with a chace to earn him back. or have him die and not resent u. Think about this casue the problem seems to be with u
you know what .I go to alcoholics anonymous and I tend to agree with you .I think for me its a program to stop drinking and it works for me for that 19 sober .but as a program for life ,or the answers to life's problems it does not solve .its not the whole deal it lacks ,its not the answer to my life its just an answer to my drinking .if I am foolish enough to expect any thing more from it .I would be doing myself a great disfavour
If he's cut you out of his life .. You're a drunk ... or you act like one ... YOUVE CRUSHED YOURSELF.. At the end of the day the ego is something that is very clearly an unbeatable force for this man .. Your own mind is the culpret .. Psycholigist... If you're a psycholgist and you've been treating people with the kind of craziness that you've shown here ... I'm sorry to tell you but you've done more harm to many more people than aa ever has .. For people like me .. people like you are a poison
@deathb4goof What are you, some kind of typical AA asshole who can't even spell the word "psychologist" but think you can judge this man's worth? AA is crawling with self-righteous idiots like you. Most of the people who've stuck around AA seem to enjoy crushing other people's egos- that's why they stick around. AA isn't scientific, it's not medical, so what does that leave? It's bullshit and it's a refuge for the TRUE sad sacks like you.
First off, thank you for saying what others have been afraid to say. Secondly, the reason others are afraid to say things like this is because the AA community condones social scrutiny and harassment as an unspoken law to anyone who may oppose them as can be seen through their meetings. This should not be feared, as fearing the consequences of practicing free speech woud be the same as fearing the Nazi regime during WWII. The simple fact is that AA harms just as many people as it helps.
@strangerdanger344 AA has saved many lives. Idk if u are an alcoholic or if u know someone who is. AA is magical and I have seen miracles every day. Some people may have expirienced some harsh words but this does not mean it is a bad program. It is saving my life.
hola i'm from mazatlan sinaloa mexico and i respet your view about the big book, but i tell you that in my comunity we are more than 1000 people sober. can you imagine? 1000 families and i have 9 years clean since i step for first time an a.a. meeting. i´ts not easy to understand an alcoholic and we don´t pretend you to do it. just an alcoholic has that gift to open the mind of other, but the real job is from god we are just and instrument, i´m happy with that. god bless this comunity
"Most of us sense that real tolerance of other people's shortcomings and viewpoints and a respect for their opinions are attitudes which make us more useful to others. Our very lives as ex-problem drinkers, depend upon our constant thought of others and how we may help meet their needs" Alcoholics Anonymous, 4th Edition, Page 20
All we can really say is: thanks for sharing. But please hang around for the meeting after the meeting and you might find some solace and some answers.
@SoundHustlerMusic i really can't stand people that keep showing up to AA like it is a support group. We don't want to hear your problems over and over. That's what a sponsor is for. If you work the steps you will be given the tools to deal with these problems on your own. So you don't work the steps and you keep having problems you can't handle and you keep feeling the urge to drink. It's so frustrating people that cannot or will not work the steps for whatever reason.
AA was the only thing that worked for one of my dearest loved ones. It does work for many, many alcoholics, those who are committed to conquering the addiction. I'm sorry that your son cut you out of his life, but there must be a lot to this story that we'll never know. I've been to many AA meetings with my loved one and have read the books, and AA advises alcoholics to make things right with people they've hurt with their drinking. Don't blame AA for something your son chose to do.
Hello I just want to thank everyone for the comments, And mention that I am unable to sign into the MaddogDimmitt account. Since Google and You Tube merged. After hours of messing with things managed to get a new channel to say thanks everyone and the main channel I use is k6tpl Peace and Good Jer
My prayers are going to you... I'm sorry your son has cut you out of his life.
It's not the true AA way to cut people out of their lives... If you read the Book, you would have seen the part that says, "We must be hard on ourselves, but always considerate of others". The sad truth is, AA is not what it used to be in the 1940's- it's turned into a self-help program, which is NOT what it's supposed to be. I will keep you in my prayers... God bless you!
For the ones who decided to open their minds up and shut up it works. For the others who decided to continuously be terminally different and can't take suggestions I'm sorry. I decided that the way of life held water because i saw evidence in people who were 50 years sober. But it turns out it wasnt AA alone. A higher power was needed. A power GREATER than myself, My thinking was screwed up and my way never workd for long
AA is a ridiculous scam . There is no evidence that it works . It seems to lower success rates in all the studies . Drinking is a choice not a disease . Brainwashing people who are down on their luck doesn't make it a disease. AA is a cult , there is no other accurate definition .
You could say it's contradictory but it isn't. AA uses cult tactics to keeps it's members addicted to the program. They actually play on the addictive behavior by suggesting ad nauseum as many meetings as possible. The sponsors encourage members to cut ties with family that question the program. Drinking or not drinking is a choice. The coercion constantly used in AA is different because it threatens a weak person with failure if directions are not followed. That is manipulation.
I'm not dying, not religious at all, just human. I understand what you are feeling and saying about AA and agree 100%. I have been subjected to the same treatment by my family in AA because I am the "normy". This organization is a family destroying cult that enables narcisism, avoidance of responsibility and self centeredness. Maddogg: if you are still with us, may you find the same peace I seek for myself. I know we are interconnected - all of us. Damn those who cause seperation and destruction
Sorry dude, sounds like the cancer went to your brain then you became a bitter old fucker blaming others for the fact that your son thought that you weren't worth the effort.
I agree that the judicial should not force people to join aa. they sould be given a choice. AA itself says that it is a program of attraction not promotion. There may be faults to the program but it has also helped so many . This guy has a lot of anger and maybe a 12 step program would help him. I don't know what your experience is with AA, but it is possible that you haveen't found the meeting that is right for you, the sponsor that is right for you or maybe giv smthng else atry.
spoken like a true addict, only thinking about yourself. he has detached so he wont feel guilty when you die...give him that at least. make up for some of your mistakes. unfortunately by putting this guilt trip from beyond the grave on youtube you cant even do that can you. if your not dead already, close your account. remove this clip and give him the peace you never had.
I would like to think AA is helpful to a lot of people. When there are people in your life that give you pain every time you are with them, and you are in the process of healing, you must detach to regain your sanity and sobriety. I am so sorry this happened to you. I would think, if it were me, I would find love in my heart for someone that raised me to reach back out, hoping that time had healed the old wounds. I can say it is probably not AA, but your son holding back.
Idea of cutting people out of their lives? LOL, what the hell are you talking about, you don't know shit about AA. Stick to talking about subjects you actually know something about.
AA is a faith healing cult that does more harm than good. I escaped the cult 18 months ago, and I still suffer from the fleas I picked up when I laid down with the AA dogs.
What made him "detach" himself from you? Just that he went to AA, or was/is there a beef with you?
I've seen alot of peoples' lives, and those around them, turned around by AA.
True, it doesn't work for everyone, and sometimes people get dropped out of your life, but usually not for a lack of reason. Might not be a good one, but it's still a reason.
Life's too short. Move on and get over it. Bad shit happens, don't hate.
this guy needs to come back to the real world. I find him to be a self centered person AA helps people thats all. If you have a problem with AA that is your experience but AA is there for those who need it. If you don't understand it research it more.
Hard to grasp, as a recovering alcoholic, i can understand your view, but i also understand you cannot grasp what it is like to be an alcoholic. Smoking a pipe (addiciton?) is not on the same galaxy as an addiction to alcohol.
This clip is a 100% lie!! His son would have cut him out of his life no matter what. The old man finally has someone to blame. Anything or anyone but himself. Pathetic, then he quotes religion through gritted teeth at the end....ugh....
Wow you don't have a clue. AA did the opposite of this "detachment" you talk about. Look within yourself and see what is your part in the detachment between you and your son. Stop throwing the blame.
no one really cares what this man thinks of AA....just as no one cares what an alchoholic thinks of him. He seems angry and misdirected. A shame. But what if he discourages an alcoholic from attending a life saving meeting because of his rant? hmmm.......what then? Sleep well old man.
There are two sides to every chip, and AA is not necessarily a good or effective way to get sober. When I quit, I started with AA, having been a AA kid for years. But, I soon found that it did more harm than good by CONSTANTLY reminding be of alcohol! Every time I reached in my pocket and felt that chip, I was reminded of drinking and alcohol. I finally beat alcohol by forsaking AA. And, today's idiot judges, who think sentencing people to AA will help, are JUST PLAIN WRONG! AA is not a solution
You cannot blame Alcoholics Anonymous for the fact that someone misinterpreted the idea of detachment. This is ridiculous.
There is no such idea like cutting people out of anyone's life. Of course this is inhumane and AA contents certainly does not advocate any such thing.
Have been in AA for years and no where in book or in meeting do we speak of cutting off family... Maybe old still drinking playmates. Love and Detachment is an Alanon teaching to help with the still practicing alcholic in one's life not an AA teaching.
What ISN'T said by narrator is what's really going on in his life. He seems to have focused on one small part of the AA philososphy. AA is a spiritual program. It works for a lot of people. Of course people feel badly for this man..I do. He seems angry. 12 step porograms can be effective and a wonderful alternative the drugs.
My dad quit alcohol with the help of AA 20 years ago ,saved his life, marriage,reganned his wealth, self respect,and is truly happy, not perfect.All i'm saying is whatever works for you to achieve happyness, but you don't find it by drinking.Go to any Bar Pub and you will see all the regular drinkers mostly poor and unhappy and in Bad health.I find it sad when people hate to see other people bettering themselves and just trying to be happy.Good luck to all.
yea of course people only stop drinking if they want to drink.BUT ... drinking is only a symptom of the disease of alcoholism. after we put the drink down, we are still insane. because the insanity started in our brains before we took the drink. we need the 12 steps to help us face ourselves and other people with love and a higher power to help us ! it's awesome. to each their own. AA doesn't judge at all ! of course theres people in there that might but hey... that's every where
Nowhere in that book does it talk about cutting people out of your life. In fact it is quite the reverse. It does talk about making amends to the people that you have hurt, and rebuilding relationships with those people. Where are you getting these ideas?
The words "happy joyous and free" are just empty AA cult-speak. If you have to keep comming back, you are not free. If AA funtions as a bait & switch cult consisting of powerless sheep.
That was a good radio spot to let people know that you have a relationship that has gone bad. Reading the "Book" is only one of the things that alcoholics do to stay sober "one day at a time". No one can undo what God has done. We cannot measure the countless number of lives of alcoholics and their families that have benefited from this program. Alcoholism like cancer is a disease. AA allows the alcoholic to live a little while longer by not fueling the fire of his disease with alcohol.
Nowhere in the AA Book does it talk about 'enabling' or 'detachment'. Nor does it say ONLY drunks can counsel drunks. It says nothing about 'cutting people out of your lives'. The AA Book talks about LOVE and service. Building bridges. Not blaming or judging. Your son may have received bad advice from someone. I fear your hurt and resentment may have clouded your vision. Your views are completely wrong.
Wow, that made me sad. Did he say he actually read the book he was holding? If so, he must be also suffering from some other mental issues as there is no where in that book that advises in the way he says. I'm not sure what is going on with this man, but Alcoholics Anonymous is NOT the issue. His rant is insane. AA advises on cleaning the wreckage of the past. AA advises love.
How sorry I feel for you. Your reading of Alcoholics Anonymous is so wrong. They teach the complete opposite to everything you have stated. Their programme of recover from the disease of alcoholism is designed particularly to repair any damage done and for the individual concerned to make amends where possible. I really think you need to look at yourself instead of blaming others. God bless.
alcohol will strip you down to a point were u have no choice but to ask for Jesus's help AA is not religous its spirilual religon is for people who dont want to go to hell spiritualiy is for people who been thru hell and dont want to go back.. Do you think its there thinking that makes alcoholics wanna quit?? All the crosses mind of an addict is to get one more where does the thoughts come from to go too a meeting come from it sure isnt my thinking my thinking wants a drink
@Hammersley1967 Saying seems a lot of you are AA guys, where compassion and love and tolerance are preached about as being a great program. Yet most of you are all but throwing rocks at this guy. And-I don't come off as working agreat program...but I see no need to put this fella down.
You are so way off. I still don't understand where you're coming from. And how do we not unconditionally love one another in AA. I use to be a stuck up jackass, and now I reach out to those who need help no matter what -- no matter the crimes they've committed. Everyone around me is like this. I think you read the book ready to shoot down everything that is written in it.
@IsraelforeverUSA1 He compares smoking to drinking? They stop drinking is the only way they stop drinking? And since when has AA told any of us to crush other people or detach other people.
my dad is an alcoholic or former dad seeing my parents are getting a divorce well let's get back to topic he dosent want help when he says "i'm going out for a walk or i am working late etc." he goes out and gets drunk and anyway he is dying drinking himself to death dosent want help getting a divorce what should we do or him..?
@fallout401 i am not a professional. In your circumstances maybe going for a walk with him or just sticking clsoe to him until he gets through this part of life. Depression is DEADLY and i would get to a family therapist (PSYCH) that is not not 12-step and at first pretend it is for myself and ask him to atttend and help you with it.white lie- i would suggest too that "I: was drinking too much trying to get through the divorce. I was just talking with a guy who went ot halfway house he;'better
my dad is an alcoholic or former dad seeing my parents are getting a divorce well let's get back to topic he dosent want help when he says "i'm going out for a walk or i am working late etc." he goes out and gets drunk and anyway he is dying drinking himself to death dosent want help getting a divorce what should we do or him..?
Just subbed. Long time (8 yrs) AA member. I'm leaving AA now. You are more correct than you know. I'm very sorry about your son. I've seen AA destroy countless families and drive people to suicide. As for the steppers on the BB, step off and let the man vent. He's healthier than any of us. JB
I have to say I have never seen or read such rubbish,,AA is about you as an individual but with the support of other alcholics..If you do not get it or it doesn't help. or even more you are not ready then so be it!! The guy in this video is suffering from the classic carer syndrome i.e. I was caring for my son, I was controling but now he is onthe path to recovery I'm not in control or as important
You have not comprehended the chapters written about working with others, to wives or the family after wards. The only time "detachment" is ever suggested in our literature is when a man is ruthlessly beating his wife. Your own resentments about your sadly unsuccessful relationship are not a basis to lie and judge something you are grossly misinformed about. Your family may have benefited from the amends process that reunites families.
For some people, it saves their lives to detach. People stop drinking because they just, decide one day to stop? noo way jose.. Alcoholics anonymous saves peoples lives, and gives god-ignorant sinners a set of morals to live up to. Would you rather have your son happy and detached, or miserably drunk, still "woven" in..
Oh, no, you misinformed idiot. Have you ever actually looked at statistics and data about the 'results' of AA? It's a fucking cult. Their results are terrible.
How is that not a cult? Jesus sucks balls, you can worship your imaginary friend all you want. No figment of imagination will make you sober. I'm afraid you'll have to squeeze your will power glands for this.
Be a nobody by turn your "will" over to God. Be somebody by keeping and strengthening your will in God's light. My God does not want me to turn my will over to him. My God wants me to have a strong mind, will, and spirit being a complete person in his image.
lakesrabner 2 hours ago
speed up those lips champ we're not getting any younger.
7InchGrowerDick 1 day ago
I agree with you totally!!! Your insights are poignant and accurate. AA promotes arrant hypocrisy and intra-psychic and emotional damage. 12-step groups can have a disastrous effect on vulnerable and desperate ppl who are in need of validation and consideration. Yet AA further demoralizes the newcomer by stripping him/her of their humanity and individuality. AA manipulates the person to actually perceiving themselves as a "disease." Rather than having a problem that can be overccome. AA=DESPAIR.
salahudeenabduladl 1 week ago
Miracles happen in aa everyday. So for you to say harsh things about aa is wrong.
Solo2460 1 week ago
Sorry to hear about your health. First of all some alcoholics can help other alcoholics toghther because they cant do it on there own. They know how they operate and share there strengths wisdom and hopes. Aa doesnt make people quit is helps, its not as easy as you say "they stop drinking". Maybe you should just stop smoking. Would you rather have that man you love so much end up on the street? Or dead from alcoholism? Aa doesnt cut people out of lives, it saves people. It has saved mine!
Solo2460 1 week ago
Stop Drinkin' and Start Trippin'
TrinkBruder 1 week ago
I am not realy sure about the AA, and why any individual needs to buy into a system to turn around the terrible affliction that alcohoism is. I only hope that anybody searching articles like this finds a way to remove alcohol from their life if it has become a problem.
andrew2767 2 weeks ago
My experience is that many people in AA are pretty self serving, me too somedays. If I were you I wouldn't leave a bunch of money to anyone in AA, cause it's bad for us. Sorry to hear your young friend pulled away. I hope other friends will support you in you declining health. AA is just a tool to stop drinking and it offers 12 steps to improve your life. With the passage of time and use of the steps your friend may be able to return as a changed and better person. I sorry your time is limited.
jasalley 2 weeks ago
Sir, I watched your video with great interest and empathy. I have spent the past 2 years of my life within the program you speak so poorly of. Not once have I ever heard expressed views of detachment in the way you describe. Detachment is NOT a part of the program, not to my knowledge. I cannot think of one sentence in our book which encourages detachment from relationships, rather we encourage mending relationships. You have a very skewed view of what aa suggests to its members.
TheGavinbean 2 weeks ago
Concerned solely or chiefly with your own interests. That is why you are alone. AA teaches to detach from people who cause pain and bring us down and not to be brought down by them.
danielbushey2 3 weeks ago
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Exactly. Get out of yourself and help someone else. That's how it works.
wisersdeluxeman 1 week ago
maddog im glad you spoke up i just got home from an AA meeting ive been sober almost 5 years and i hate AA ive forced myself to it everday for the first 3 years and to this day am not as happy as they seem to be they seem to think that once there sober there better than everyone else and put on this big show in the rooms how well they are doing while the few that are depressed and completetly honest are the ones that go out and die or end up in jail because they werent like them .
turner593 4 weeks ago
Sad.
ggw1973 1 month ago
Wow, I hope you can find some peace in your life before you die.
apex1113 1 month ago
Someone used a 12 step group to hurt me very badly. Manipulated someone close to me to hurt me. That was 17 years ago and I still struggle today as a result.
ebrp68 1 month ago
I went through kindness and kept drinking. I went rock bottom and stopped. Drunks will use anyone to keep drinking. Left with nothing they may stop, wake up, and drink the coffee.
fabulousgerro661 1 month ago
Thanks you disgust me! I'd be dead if it wasn't for AA and I am not bible thumping or dragging people from their families. I dontThis video is a cry to your son.
jbwitchdance 2 months ago
@jbwitchdance Well said.
fabulousgerro661 1 month ago
Sad....sounds like success cost you your family...still worried about where to leave your money...still trying to control other people..Try not focusing on your son's and A.a's problems and look why you are still not happy. Keep it simple and try sending him a card and not demanding that he acts on it or even asking him to react...Just do it out of love...no manipulation...Time may heal your wounds if you quit trying to get him to act the way you think he should...
jjssccpphhdd 2 months ago
AS an Outsider to AA, & NOT being an alcoholic, YOU really have no idea, pal, what you're trying to talk about here. Inside AA, drunks do not 'counsel' other drunks, despite what you erroneously think. If your boy has 'detached' from you .. then it's his OWN fault & due to his OWN DEFECTS, not anything to do with AA. AA doesn't 'poison' anyone's mind. You are a sick, troubled soul, & you need to look at BLAMING other avenues than AA for your distress .. you poor fellow ...
colindominy 2 months ago 2
@colindominy I've been sober in AA for 12 years. I don't like 90% of AA's I meet. I'm a free thinker & I go to AA to stay sober, not to win a popularity contest. In spite of pleas from fellow AA's to contact my dad I have chosen not to do so. I don't hate my dad but his life practices oppose everything I believe in. AA doesn't poison anything. There are people within ALL institutions who are corrupt. Thank you, colindominy, for speaking the truth. I'm in AA but refuse to be a sheep.
DieselDog77 1 month ago
The message of this video is simple, AA took this guys son from him plain and simple, thats what they do!!! Its a fucking cult plain and simple.
danodanodano357 2 months ago
@danodanodano357 Read what I responded to colindominy. Accusing random institutions or fellowships of "cultism" is too familiar to the older practice of accusing anyone we hate of being "communist" or a "witch." The truth is that most people who hate AA have never read 12 step literature or attended a meeting. Like every other gathering of humans, AA has people who SUCK. That's humanity, folks. People suck. I don't like most of the people I see at meetings. I go to stay sober.
DieselDog77 1 month ago
@danodanodano357 I could probably stay sober without AA. And I could do without a lot of the unfortunate remarks I hear from ignorant, recovering drunks before during & after meetings. However,there is that handful of people who, like myself, grew up in the punk/hardcore scene, like tattoos, motorcycles and alternative literature and art of all mediums. Some of us are atheist. We don't get along with everyone but we're still in AA. We're not religious but we're still sober...
DieselDog77 1 month ago
@danodanodano357 Most cult persecute those who leave. The general consensus of people leaving in multiple states in my experience is one of "don't let the door hit your ass on the way out. If you change your mind, we'll be here when you come back." THAT'S NOT A CULT LIKE ATTITUDE. CULTS WRING YOUR PHONE OFF THE HOOK WHEN YOU LEAVE. ASK ANYONE WHO USED TO BE A MOONY OR A SCIENTOLOGIST. We don't do that in AA. And if you go to a meeting where people don't respect bounderies,...
DieselDog77 1 month ago
@danodanodano357 You simply tell them to fuck off and find a different. I'm sorry your impression of AA is so negative. I wish I could find who ever tainted your vision of us and have a few words with them. We're so diverse it's unbelievable. I've been sober for 12 years and I still butt heads with AA's all the time. FUCK'EM. Like I said before, I'm there to stay sober not to win a popularity contest. The sheep herd goes one way and I go the other. But I'm still sober
DieselDog77 1 month ago
@DieselDog77
Yep. It's not a social club. It's life and death for real alcoholics.
wisersdeluxeman 1 week ago
He contradicts himself saying that an organisation can't stop someone drinking, that they can only stop drinking if they want to, then going on to blame this organisation for being the cause of his son leaving his life. Surely by this logic, it was your son's choice alone to leave your life.
I'm sure alcohol has pulled more families apart than A.A has.
MrBillyBunks 2 months ago 2
AA doesn't make you do anything it your choice and your choice alone do you wanna get better i know i do and thats why i go i make the choices in my life because its my life.i thought i could do this on my own but i couldn't maby you can but i know i cant i love AA .
ClutchNervous 2 months ago
I think you have the program of Alcoholics Anonymous confused with Alanon. I'd suggest that you re-read chapters 7 and 9 (Working With Others and The Family Afterwords).
As an alcoholic who has recovered, I know that durng my drinking I pushed people that were closest to me out of my life; including my parents. The 12 Steps have "enabled" me to become the person (and son) that I never let let develop because of my drinking.
otesaga4 3 months ago
You understand addiction, maybe, but you obviously dont understand the methodology behind stopping the addiction.. since u still smoke.
pierce15131 3 months ago
I feel sorry for this guy, so bitter and full of anger, it's a shame he will die without ever facing up to his actions & making amends to his son. I imagine it was a very difficult decision his son made and I feel for him. It seems to me that if detaching from his father was what he felt was the right choice for him then it is right. After seeing this public display of his father's character I can only imagine the horrors he must have put his son through "behind closed doors". A very sad video
2010somerset 3 months ago
How the fuck could a non drunk know anything about being a drunk .
marcusfeasey 3 months ago
if your dog could go to the shop and open the tin of food itself,, it would not put up with your crap,, so this kid learned how to get his own food and how to open the tin and now he dont need you and he can see what you are,, his eyes have been opened ,, and you want to blame AA,, blame your mother for making you a spineless turd,, the games up you washed up pervert !!
eelpieballox 3 months ago
i dont believe you have cancer,, your a liar,, and i dont care about your suffering,,
you took advantage of the kid and you got found out,, fuck you and your big name dropping routeen,,
eelpieballox 3 months ago
this guy was porking a young kid and manipulating him,, now the kid has got some self esteem and sanity this old goat is trying to blame AA. What a selfish old man you are,, you want this young kid to stay near death's door cos you want to promise to leave him stuff in your shitty will,, hey not everyone is as heartless and as selfish as you.. and another thing big shot,, your home is a disgrace,, get it cleaned up you scruffy fucker,, !!
eelpieballox 3 months ago
No one is forced to go to A.A., and stay sober or work the steps. I am sorry your sick. But maybe if you were not so bitter people wouldn't walk out on you
imtokey 3 months ago
One ego arguing with another ego telling another ego that this is right, wrong blahblahblahbla.........it's all mind, sad but this dude could use a 4th step so he is not on his death bed with a resentment with AA.....blessings......stay cool
MrRepHum 3 months ago
Haha ...this is great....if we are all "interwoven" then you shouldn't feel disconnected to your son because he doesn't talk to you or if we are interwoven why judgment on "aa and the organization" ........all ego baby, that's why your dog loves you unconditionally....free of ego....AA, Ekhart Tolle, Buddhism, true teachings of Jesus all point to the ego as the main source of our suffering......sounds like grandpa is a little attached to a certain idea!
MrRepHum 3 months ago
It takes this guy 3 minutes 5 seconds to start getting to the point. Then I have no idea what he is ranting about.
TheShiteMaster 4 months ago
first 164 pages probably 20 times. The last stories who knows how many times. I see this all to much in AA that you guys tend to alienate the rest of your real families in lieu of a need of acceptance, with your ego crushing personalities. This program should only be for the weakminded and the ones that don;t know about themselves.
Normankay 4 months ago
successfully convinced himself that if he drinks he will die. Now if you blackout after a couple drinks, or black out for that matter you may have a drinking problem. But you aa heads need to realise that those family members that are having a good time on the weekend arent drunks and that you have a resentment that you have successfully convinced yourself that you cannot do that. I have been indoctrined with this book since youth. I know it better than most people in AA. I have read your
Normankay 4 months ago
you people have no clue exists or not. My mom will call anyone in my family who has one too many an alcoholic and tries to brainwash them like she is. See you fuckers are told every day that if you drink you will die. You know what that does to your Pshycology, like the guy that stays clean 20 years then drinks himself to death has been inocculated with your garbage to believe that if he drinks he will die. So if takes that one drink, he is already telling himself he is helpless and
Normankay 4 months ago
Until now and I am 31, I barely fucking drink and smoke weed a hit maybe 3-4 times a week. You guys gave me the biggest resentment I have ever had. Preaching that you have all of this wisdom when in actuality you guys are too scared to talk to your family. My mom has over 20 years and has successfully alienated my sister and I from my whole family, both my mom and my dads side. My whole family feels sorry for me that my mom ingrained this social program for the fear of being judged by a God
Normankay 4 months ago
Tobacco has been proven to be the most addicting substance more than Heroin. Yes AA is a cult, look up the definition. You guys in AA are Vacuum of Hierarchy, most people there won't help the people they don't want around. Then all I hear is look how good I am doing from the women with time. I was raised in an AA family, it ruined me. I have been told since the age of 15 that I am an alcoholic when I drank on the weekends with all my other normal HS friends. I was called an alcoholic all
Normankay 4 months ago
@Normankay I did this video. I can no longer sign into it since things merged with Google. I want to add maybe I can post a video response. Thanks for the comments. This is a combination of AA and his Church that feels taht Catholics are evil and connected with Satan. My Healthy is really poor at the moment. There has been contact. But there is little hope of resolving the issue. I will see if I can do a video Response.
k6tpl 4 months ago
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I've always been on the fence with AA, not ever really having a well-formed opinion about the organization. I can now safely say after watching this video that I have been swayed. How can anyone disagree with this man? His yellow mustache, shitty smokers voice, and horseshoe haircut could sway the most fickle of retards, such as myself. Thank you, old fart, for showing me the way.
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mbbutler1s 4 months ago
sir I don't know if u r still living and I hope u r. But u r not an alcoholic and u don't understand this at all. I'm sorry ur son detached from u but that is on him not the program. I would have been able to stay sober because of this program. I am alive to tell u that u r wrong. alcohol is baffling strong and is a drug that can take a person and ruin his life. it is unlike ur tobacco which can be given up after a 3 day period of not smoking.
reasonsunknownable 5 months ago
@reasonsunknownable I mean I would not have been able to stay sober if it weren't for this program it has saved my life. I have real friends now and I love life unlike before I was insane and lived to drink chemicals.
reasonsunknownable 5 months ago
Can someone explain this video to me? His son has abandoned him because of AA? I honestly didn't get it and I would really really appriciate it if someone explained it to me. thanks.
mixmastermeeks 5 months ago
you have to reliase that this programs never forces anyone to do anything. It is a program of suggestions. This video u made is only made for you to feel better about ur life and decsion that your boy has made. I love how you just blame a program that might have saved ur sons life. But thats not good enough, Let me ask u a question. Would u rather your son live and resent u with a chace to earn him back. or have him die and not resent u. Think about this casue the problem seems to be with u
ggnike123 6 months ago
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TheShiteMaster 6 months ago
you know what .I go to alcoholics anonymous and I tend to agree with you .I think for me its a program to stop drinking and it works for me for that 19 sober .but as a program for life ,or the answers to life's problems it does not solve .its not the whole deal it lacks ,its not the answer to my life its just an answer to my drinking .if I am foolish enough to expect any thing more from it .I would be doing myself a great disfavour
AntonioLargoArco 6 months ago
If he's cut you out of his life .. You're a drunk ... or you act like one ... YOUVE CRUSHED YOURSELF.. At the end of the day the ego is something that is very clearly an unbeatable force for this man .. Your own mind is the culpret .. Psycholigist... If you're a psycholgist and you've been treating people with the kind of craziness that you've shown here ... I'm sorry to tell you but you've done more harm to many more people than aa ever has .. For people like me .. people like you are a poison
deathb4goof 6 months ago
@deathb4goof What are you, some kind of typical AA asshole who can't even spell the word "psychologist" but think you can judge this man's worth? AA is crawling with self-righteous idiots like you. Most of the people who've stuck around AA seem to enjoy crushing other people's egos- that's why they stick around. AA isn't scientific, it's not medical, so what does that leave? It's bullshit and it's a refuge for the TRUE sad sacks like you.
JohnBigmon 5 months ago
First off, thank you for saying what others have been afraid to say. Secondly, the reason others are afraid to say things like this is because the AA community condones social scrutiny and harassment as an unspoken law to anyone who may oppose them as can be seen through their meetings. This should not be feared, as fearing the consequences of practicing free speech woud be the same as fearing the Nazi regime during WWII. The simple fact is that AA harms just as many people as it helps.
strangerdanger344 7 months ago 2
@strangerdanger344 AA has saved many lives. Idk if u are an alcoholic or if u know someone who is. AA is magical and I have seen miracles every day. Some people may have expirienced some harsh words but this does not mean it is a bad program. It is saving my life.
reasonsunknownable 5 months ago
What a sad old angry man you are. I think you just showed us why he cants nothing to do with you.
kylecav 7 months ago
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zrhorner723 7 months ago
hola i'm from mazatlan sinaloa mexico and i respet your view about the big book, but i tell you that in my comunity we are more than 1000 people sober. can you imagine? 1000 families and i have 9 years clean since i step for first time an a.a. meeting. i´ts not easy to understand an alcoholic and we don´t pretend you to do it. just an alcoholic has that gift to open the mind of other, but the real job is from god we are just and instrument, i´m happy with that. god bless this comunity
aausr1 7 months ago
"Most of us sense that real tolerance of other people's shortcomings and viewpoints and a respect for their opinions are attitudes which make us more useful to others. Our very lives as ex-problem drinkers, depend upon our constant thought of others and how we may help meet their needs" Alcoholics Anonymous, 4th Edition, Page 20
dossposey1 7 months ago
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maybe you molested him...?
lilmommagigi 7 months ago
All we can really say is: thanks for sharing. But please hang around for the meeting after the meeting and you might find some solace and some answers.
bearo657 7 months ago
I am not making any judgements, simply asking a question. What AA ideas do you think caused your son to cut off contact with you?
DrQuantum27 7 months ago
@SoundHustlerMusic i really can't stand people that keep showing up to AA like it is a support group. We don't want to hear your problems over and over. That's what a sponsor is for. If you work the steps you will be given the tools to deal with these problems on your own. So you don't work the steps and you keep having problems you can't handle and you keep feeling the urge to drink. It's so frustrating people that cannot or will not work the steps for whatever reason.
Darwyn7 8 months ago
Bitter old man .....pathetic ....blaming AA?? LOL
hondagal28 8 months ago
AA was the only thing that worked for one of my dearest loved ones. It does work for many, many alcoholics, those who are committed to conquering the addiction. I'm sorry that your son cut you out of his life, but there must be a lot to this story that we'll never know. I've been to many AA meetings with my loved one and have read the books, and AA advises alcoholics to make things right with people they've hurt with their drinking. Don't blame AA for something your son chose to do.
rivermoonrise 8 months ago
Hello I just want to thank everyone for the comments, And mention that I am unable to sign into the MaddogDimmitt account. Since Google and You Tube merged. After hours of messing with things managed to get a new channel to say thanks everyone and the main channel I use is k6tpl Peace and Good Jer
DimmittBlue 8 months ago
to the man who uploaded this video...
My prayers are going to you... I'm sorry your son has cut you out of his life.
It's not the true AA way to cut people out of their lives... If you read the Book, you would have seen the part that says, "We must be hard on ourselves, but always considerate of others". The sad truth is, AA is not what it used to be in the 1940's- it's turned into a self-help program, which is NOT what it's supposed to be. I will keep you in my prayers... God bless you!
SkillzDatKillz67 8 months ago
For the ones who decided to open their minds up and shut up it works. For the others who decided to continuously be terminally different and can't take suggestions I'm sorry. I decided that the way of life held water because i saw evidence in people who were 50 years sober. But it turns out it wasnt AA alone. A higher power was needed. A power GREATER than myself, My thinking was screwed up and my way never workd for long
stephy072770 8 months ago
Evidence in my life but thousands have recovered. No evidence? Hmm open your mind and heart.
stephy072770 8 months ago
AA is a ridiculous scam . There is no evidence that it works . It seems to lower success rates in all the studies . Drinking is a choice not a disease . Brainwashing people who are down on their luck doesn't make it a disease. AA is a cult , there is no other accurate definition .
MindofaJedi 8 months ago
You could say it's contradictory but it isn't. AA uses cult tactics to keeps it's members addicted to the program. They actually play on the addictive behavior by suggesting ad nauseum as many meetings as possible. The sponsors encourage members to cut ties with family that question the program. Drinking or not drinking is a choice. The coercion constantly used in AA is different because it threatens a weak person with failure if directions are not followed. That is manipulation.
beautifulmind546 8 months ago
I'm not dying, not religious at all, just human. I understand what you are feeling and saying about AA and agree 100%. I have been subjected to the same treatment by my family in AA because I am the "normy". This organization is a family destroying cult that enables narcisism, avoidance of responsibility and self centeredness. Maddogg: if you are still with us, may you find the same peace I seek for myself. I know we are interconnected - all of us. Damn those who cause seperation and destruction
beautifulmind546 8 months ago
Sorry dude, sounds like the cancer went to your brain then you became a bitter old fucker blaming others for the fact that your son thought that you weren't worth the effort.
gmjavenger 9 months ago
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martyr732 9 months ago
@martyr732 god is dead
loveallthepeople1000 8 months ago
@loveallthepeople1000 u too dead asshole..
martyr732 8 months ago
@martyr732 that dosen't even make any sense....are/ were you drunk?
loveallthepeople1000 8 months ago
@loveallthepeople1000 ...s and fucking u...feel my dick asshole..
martyr732 7 months ago
@martyr732 i can, its small.
loveallthepeople1000 7 months ago
I agree that the judicial should not force people to join aa. they sould be given a choice. AA itself says that it is a program of attraction not promotion. There may be faults to the program but it has also helped so many . This guy has a lot of anger and maybe a 12 step program would help him. I don't know what your experience is with AA, but it is possible that you haveen't found the meeting that is right for you, the sponsor that is right for you or maybe giv smthng else atry.
shakindave 9 months ago
spoken like a true addict, only thinking about yourself. he has detached so he wont feel guilty when you die...give him that at least. make up for some of your mistakes. unfortunately by putting this guilt trip from beyond the grave on youtube you cant even do that can you. if your not dead already, close your account. remove this clip and give him the peace you never had.
loveallthepeople1000 9 months ago
Oh I could not agree more.
lancer89032 9 months ago
I would like to think AA is helpful to a lot of people. When there are people in your life that give you pain every time you are with them, and you are in the process of healing, you must detach to regain your sanity and sobriety. I am so sorry this happened to you. I would think, if it were me, I would find love in my heart for someone that raised me to reach back out, hoping that time had healed the old wounds. I can say it is probably not AA, but your son holding back.
PBottomPoochies 9 months ago
It's obvious you're an asshole. No wonder he decided to rid himself of you.
RManFlint 9 months ago
You're nuts, pal.
RManFlint 9 months ago
Is he dead?
domenicoluigi 9 months ago
Idea of cutting people out of their lives? LOL, what the hell are you talking about, you don't know shit about AA. Stick to talking about subjects you actually know something about.
WhenPeonsAttack 9 months ago
Gst
donlapcam 10 months ago
Test
donlapcam 10 months ago
AA is a faith healing cult that does more harm than good. I escaped the cult 18 months ago, and I still suffer from the fleas I picked up when I laid down with the AA dogs.
ndrthrdr1 10 months ago
Sure AA is flawed, but then again...
So is your vlog.
What made him "detach" himself from you? Just that he went to AA, or was/is there a beef with you?
I've seen alot of peoples' lives, and those around them, turned around by AA.
True, it doesn't work for everyone, and sometimes people get dropped out of your life, but usually not for a lack of reason. Might not be a good one, but it's still a reason.
Life's too short. Move on and get over it. Bad shit happens, don't hate.
rongravy 10 months ago
this guy needs to come back to the real world. I find him to be a self centered person AA helps people thats all. If you have a problem with AA that is your experience but AA is there for those who need it. If you don't understand it research it more.
somerville00 10 months ago
It's clear that you have narcissist personality disorder.
wharfrat78 10 months ago
Hard to grasp, as a recovering alcoholic, i can understand your view, but i also understand you cannot grasp what it is like to be an alcoholic. Smoking a pipe (addiciton?) is not on the same galaxy as an addiction to alcohol.
olderloverxx 10 months ago
This clip is a 100% lie!! His son would have cut him out of his life no matter what. The old man finally has someone to blame. Anything or anyone but himself. Pathetic, then he quotes religion through gritted teeth at the end....ugh....
MegaMantim 10 months ago
Wow you don't have a clue. AA did the opposite of this "detachment" you talk about. Look within yourself and see what is your part in the detachment between you and your son. Stop throwing the blame.
mgabmw 11 months ago
no one really cares what this man thinks of AA....just as no one cares what an alchoholic thinks of him. He seems angry and misdirected. A shame. But what if he discourages an alcoholic from attending a life saving meeting because of his rant? hmmm.......what then? Sleep well old man.
sagecutter 11 months ago
Waaaaaaaaaah!!!
chris31768 1 year ago
There are two sides to every chip, and AA is not necessarily a good or effective way to get sober. When I quit, I started with AA, having been a AA kid for years. But, I soon found that it did more harm than good by CONSTANTLY reminding be of alcohol! Every time I reached in my pocket and felt that chip, I was reminded of drinking and alcohol. I finally beat alcohol by forsaking AA. And, today's idiot judges, who think sentencing people to AA will help, are JUST PLAIN WRONG! AA is not a solution
TheMrBlinx 1 year ago
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Hammersley1967 8 months ago
@TheMrBlinx
"Every time I reached in my pocket and felt that chip, I was reminded of drinking and alcohol."
REALLY?
I'm no AA sycophant, but every time I reached in my pocket and felt that chip, I was reminded of the time spent sober since my last drink...
I think that's what the chip is supposed to represent...
Call me crazy, but I usually associate objects with their meaning...
And even more weird than that, the chip actually HELPED me stay sober!!!
It's a wacky ol' world aint it?
Hammersley1967 8 months ago
DRINK MORE, FREE BEER AT MY HOUSE
globbyapple 1 year ago
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vet725 1 year ago
You cannot blame Alcoholics Anonymous for the fact that someone misinterpreted the idea of detachment. This is ridiculous.
There is no such idea like cutting people out of anyone's life. Of course this is inhumane and AA contents certainly does not advocate any such thing.
nevernohijab 1 year ago
You read our "book". And what page is detached on ? Maybe you read Al Anons "book " by accident .
mmyculm54 1 year ago
Have been in AA for years and no where in book or in meeting do we speak of cutting off family... Maybe old still drinking playmates. Love and Detachment is an Alanon teaching to help with the still practicing alcholic in one's life not an AA teaching.
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vet725 1 year ago
What ISN'T said by narrator is what's really going on in his life. He seems to have focused on one small part of the AA philososphy. AA is a spiritual program. It works for a lot of people. Of course people feel badly for this man..I do. He seems angry. 12 step porograms can be effective and a wonderful alternative the drugs.
wattsrightt 1 year ago
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brenda1219621 1 year ago
My dad quit alcohol with the help of AA 20 years ago ,saved his life, marriage,reganned his wealth, self respect,and is truly happy, not perfect.All i'm saying is whatever works for you to achieve happyness, but you don't find it by drinking.Go to any Bar Pub and you will see all the regular drinkers mostly poor and unhappy and in Bad health.I find it sad when people hate to see other people bettering themselves and just trying to be happy.Good luck to all.
toeblarone 1 year ago
He says that AA "has a word called enabling"?
And AA's method of dealing with it is called "detachment"?
Buddy, I think you've got the wrong "organisation"...
"Enabling" and "detachment" are concepts central to the Alanon organisation...
Hammersley1967 1 year ago
so you're not leaving your resources to your son because he doesnt visit you?
murbones 1 year ago
yea of course people only stop drinking if they want to drink.BUT ... drinking is only a symptom of the disease of alcoholism. after we put the drink down, we are still insane. because the insanity started in our brains before we took the drink. we need the 12 steps to help us face ourselves and other people with love and a higher power to help us ! it's awesome. to each their own. AA doesn't judge at all ! of course theres people in there that might but hey... that's every where
flyflyaway08 1 year ago
this man is an alcoholic?
flyflyaway08 1 year ago
are you an alcoholic?
flyflyaway08 1 year ago
are you an alcoholic?
flyflyaway08 1 year ago
Nowhere in that book does it talk about cutting people out of your life. In fact it is quite the reverse. It does talk about making amends to the people that you have hurt, and rebuilding relationships with those people. Where are you getting these ideas?
ascernman 1 year ago
alcohol is awesome, and if you cant handle the 'abstinence' youre a fucking pussy.
i suggest that you start with the alcohol again, if not hard liquor then an ice cold beer.
drink beer everyday, i mean a beer cant hurt ya, and if it does, again youre a fucking cunt.
It makes you feel good, so why not do it, right?
And srsly.. a book how to stay off the liquor? lol
ayayay111 1 year ago
@ayayay111 shut up
74RoZan 1 year ago
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The words "happy joyous and free" are just empty AA cult-speak. If you have to keep comming back, you are not free. If AA funtions as a bait & switch cult consisting of powerless sheep.
Yoganao 1 year ago
Does AA work for everyone?... No. You have to have a certain willingness.
KingBrother1 1 year ago
@KingBrother1
Genuine willingness?
Hammersley1967 1 year ago
That was a good radio spot to let people know that you have a relationship that has gone bad. Reading the "Book" is only one of the things that alcoholics do to stay sober "one day at a time". No one can undo what God has done. We cannot measure the countless number of lives of alcoholics and their families that have benefited from this program. Alcoholism like cancer is a disease. AA allows the alcoholic to live a little while longer by not fueling the fire of his disease with alcohol.
KingBrother1 1 year ago
The spontaneous remission rate of recovery is higher than that of AA.
piratewithbird 1 year ago
Nowhere in the AA Book does it talk about 'enabling' or 'detachment'. Nor does it say ONLY drunks can counsel drunks. It says nothing about 'cutting people out of your lives'. The AA Book talks about LOVE and service. Building bridges. Not blaming or judging. Your son may have received bad advice from someone. I fear your hurt and resentment may have clouded your vision. Your views are completely wrong.
DJTooLAndY 1 year ago
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molleycoddle 1 year ago
Wow, that made me sad. Did he say he actually read the book he was holding? If so, he must be also suffering from some other mental issues as there is no where in that book that advises in the way he says. I'm not sure what is going on with this man, but Alcoholics Anonymous is NOT the issue. His rant is insane. AA advises on cleaning the wreckage of the past. AA advises love.
babyjontube 1 year ago
I do hope you and your son have reconciled since then
Abobojo 1 year ago
How sorry I feel for you. Your reading of Alcoholics Anonymous is so wrong. They teach the complete opposite to everything you have stated. Their programme of recover from the disease of alcoholism is designed particularly to repair any damage done and for the individual concerned to make amends where possible. I really think you need to look at yourself instead of blaming others. God bless.
ronanhollywood 1 year ago
alcohol will strip you down to a point were u have no choice but to ask for Jesus's help AA is not religous its spirilual religon is for people who dont want to go to hell spiritualiy is for people who been thru hell and dont want to go back.. Do you think its there thinking that makes alcoholics wanna quit?? All the crosses mind of an addict is to get one more where does the thoughts come from to go too a meeting come from it sure isnt my thinking my thinking wants a drink
TheMarkTheShark86 1 year ago
I think you need to tidy your apartment before you die.
kevphillips02 1 year ago
@kevphillips02
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Hammersley1967 1 year ago
@Hammersley1967 Saying seems a lot of you are AA guys, where compassion and love and tolerance are preached about as being a great program. Yet most of you are all but throwing rocks at this guy. And-I don't come off as working agreat program...but I see no need to put this fella down.
Abobojo 1 year ago
@Abobojo
"Saying seems a lot of you are AA guys, where compassion and love and tolerance are preached about as being a great program."
Listen up...
I'm not an "AA guy"...
I just know a lunatic when I see one...
Hammersley1967 1 year ago
@Hammersley1967 lol this really is a "takes one to know one" paradigm. I mean...here he is and here we are...on his vid.Posting.
Abobojo 1 year ago
@Abobojo
I'm only here to perv at his tits...
Hammersley1967 1 year ago
You are so way off. I still don't understand where you're coming from. And how do we not unconditionally love one another in AA. I use to be a stuck up jackass, and now I reach out to those who need help no matter what -- no matter the crimes they've committed. Everyone around me is like this. I think you read the book ready to shoot down everything that is written in it.
StanBennet 1 year ago
please go drink
IsraelforeverUSA1 1 year ago
@IsraelforeverUSA1 He compares smoking to drinking? They stop drinking is the only way they stop drinking? And since when has AA told any of us to crush other people or detach other people.
StanBennet 1 year ago
ya their nutz over their they tried to do the same thing to me 20 years ago!!!!
heartattackdon 1 year ago
sounds llike a very bitter person---AA does not ask anyone to detatch from loved ones or anyone else--go listen and learn
mkh62 1 year ago
my dad is an alcoholic or former dad seeing my parents are getting a divorce well let's get back to topic he dosent want help when he says "i'm going out for a walk or i am working late etc." he goes out and gets drunk and anyway he is dying drinking himself to death dosent want help getting a divorce what should we do or him..?
fallout401 1 year ago
@fallout401 i am not a professional. In your circumstances maybe going for a walk with him or just sticking clsoe to him until he gets through this part of life. Depression is DEADLY and i would get to a family therapist (PSYCH) that is not not 12-step and at first pretend it is for myself and ask him to atttend and help you with it.white lie- i would suggest too that "I: was drinking too much trying to get through the divorce. I was just talking with a guy who went ot halfway house he;'better
kc1964kc 1 year ago
my dad is an alcoholic or former dad seeing my parents are getting a divorce well let's get back to topic he dosent want help when he says "i'm going out for a walk or i am working late etc." he goes out and gets drunk and anyway he is dying drinking himself to death dosent want help getting a divorce what should we do or him..?
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sidecrank 1 year ago
i own aa so stfu losers
IsraelforeverUSA1 1 year ago
Just subbed. Long time (8 yrs) AA member. I'm leaving AA now. You are more correct than you know. I'm very sorry about your son. I've seen AA destroy countless families and drive people to suicide. As for the steppers on the BB, step off and let the man vent. He's healthier than any of us. JB
rovingbandofidiots 1 year ago 2
@rovingbandofidiots i won aa and i ordered you to get kicked you u drunk loser. you didn't quit i fired you.
IsraelforeverUSA1 1 year ago
@rovingbandofidiots
I have to say I have never seen or read such rubbish,,AA is about you as an individual but with the support of other alcholics..If you do not get it or it doesn't help. or even more you are not ready then so be it!! The guy in this video is suffering from the classic carer syndrome i.e. I was caring for my son, I was controling but now he is onthe path to recovery I'm not in control or as important
cmsobota 1 year ago
AA has kept me clean and sober 26 years and cant under stand why any one would tell your son to detatch from you.,unless you are a raving drunk.
sidecrank 1 year ago
@sidecrank 26 years my ass. we have tape of you drinking last week punk
IsraelforeverUSA1 1 year ago
@IsraelforeverUSA1 I have tape of you beating an Arab school child!
sidecrank 1 year ago
@sidecrank with an olive branch switch.... long live drug use and lohan!
IsraelforeverUSA1 1 year ago
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@IsraelforeverUSA1 When you have had enough drugs you will know where to come. What is lohan?
sidecrank 1 year ago
You have not comprehended the chapters written about working with others, to wives or the family after wards. The only time "detachment" is ever suggested in our literature is when a man is ruthlessly beating his wife. Your own resentments about your sadly unsuccessful relationship are not a basis to lie and judge something you are grossly misinformed about. Your family may have benefited from the amends process that reunites families.
Timothy12step 1 year ago
@Timothy12step
well said T12S
anepictree 1 year ago
For some people, it saves their lives to detach. People stop drinking because they just, decide one day to stop? noo way jose.. Alcoholics anonymous saves peoples lives, and gives god-ignorant sinners a set of morals to live up to. Would you rather have your son happy and detached, or miserably drunk, still "woven" in..
hermin0000 1 year ago
@hermin0000
Oh, no, you misinformed idiot. Have you ever actually looked at statistics and data about the 'results' of AA? It's a fucking cult. Their results are terrible.
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brenda1219621 1 year ago
@brenda1219621
How is that not a cult? Jesus sucks balls, you can worship your imaginary friend all you want. No figment of imagination will make you sober. I'm afraid you'll have to squeeze your will power glands for this.
d3st88 1 year ago