The gushy tune was too beautiful to be used just once so Wagner elaborated on something similar to the Rienzi Tune later on, in the Gotterdammerung prelude, just before the scene with Brunhilde and Siegfried (was gonna post it but Youtube won't let me).
who is the idiot who cut off the clip JUST as the crescendo of this piece begins. i mean, COME ON people. are you really that incredibly stupid to upload garbage?
here's a rule to live by: NEVER UPLOAD A VIDEO CLIP UNLESS 5 OF YOUR FRIENDS SPONTANEOUSLY VOLUNTEER THAT YOU DO SO.
It was very right to close here, because afterwards only comes all that, what Wagners time had on Dschingderassabummbumm' (German said). That was not quite the later genius, only one of his youthworks - whithout this melody.
Wabosi, Du kannst mich nicht meinen! Du bist sicherlich ein etwas "dummer Mensch", aber okay, wir haben heute eine Demokratie, da muss es auch "DUMME" geben!
In der heutigen Demokratie müssen wir auch Menschen wie "Wabosi" zulassen, da wir keine Handhabe haben, diesen Menschen zu .................!
To understand the Wagner/Hitler connection in regards to this piece, watch
the documentary "The Architecture of Doom" by Peter Cohen. It's on YouTube. Hitler was deeply inspired by Wagner's ideas about the greatness of the Germanic soul, as well as his anti-semitic notions. It is always strange how beauty, greatness, and ugliness can be so intertwined.
what a nut! wir Deutschen etc.the guy is so full of bull. He should be cooked in his own pudding.Germans are the Master race and will always be that ..Can anyone imagin a world without brains??
@wabosi Wabosi, Du kannst mich nicht meinen! Du bist sicherlich ein etwas "dummer Mensch", aber okay, wir haben heute eine Demokratie, da muss es auch "DUMME" geben!
In der heutigen Demokratie müssen wir auch Menschen wie "Wabosi" zulassen, da wir keine Handhabe haben, diesen Menschen zu .................!
Wir müssen nun für die Amerikaner arbeiten, bis wir tot sind und keinen Wert mehr haben!
Und wenn wir tot sind, dann nimmt sich der Ami die Asiaten. die er ebenfalls ausbeutet!
Wir Deutschen haben nichts mehr, wir haben alles verloren, weil uns Menschen verraten haben, die alles den Amis - gegen gutes Geld - uns verkauft haben!
Ich sollte nur die Musik hören und mir die Kommentare ersparen, auch wenn sie oft ganz gut sind.
Angenommen, es gibt einen Gott- er hat einem Menschen wie Wagner, trotz seines nicht so tollen Charakters und der Tatsache, dass er Antisemit war, die Gabe geschenkt, so wundervolle Musik zu komponieren.
Macht es seine Musik schlechter, weil Hitler sie gemocht hatte?
@marcusantonius90 Hitler absolutely loved Wagner and he based Nazism on Wagner's romantic visions of a glorious and mythical Teutonic past. Hitler even said, "Whoever wants to understand National Socialist Germany must first know Wagner."
@thinkingrequired Furthermore, it so happens that Rienzi in particular was Hitler´s most favorite opera ever since he had to live off painted postcards in the streets of Vienna!
@avginkel don't know if it was his most favorite one, but it was crucially important:"1939, after he had become the German Chancellor, he visited Wagner's daughter-in-law, Winifred Wagner in Bayreuth. Upon recounting [watching Rienzi] he exclaimed, "It was in that hour that it all began". Thus, we hear from Hitler himself how influential Wagner and his music was on his later life and political ideals. The prelude to Rienzi was often used at Nazi rallies and prefaced Hitler's speeches."
"The prelude to Rienzi was often used at Nazi rallies and prefaced Hitler's speeches."
ok...maybe...but listen: the introduction of the nazi "Wochenschau" (news) was a part of Liszt "Les preludes"...so should we stop hearing Listz now ???
@PersonalityDeficit87 Nietzsche would never join the Nazis. Nietzsche was anti-anti-Semitic, and he despised socialism. He also rejected Christianity, which Hitler could not.
@martynblackburn1977 No, I'm talking about the Aryan master race as stated in The Genealogy of Morality. Nietzsche's fans are so ignorant of his actual writing.
@OldSchopenhauer I see. In my copy of GM translated by Horace Barnett Samuel, it appears on page 14. But he was not advocating, as the Nazis did, the return of a biological race called the Aryans. GM is not a blueprint for biological determinism or racial purity.
@OldSchopenhauer Would he have? Would he not have? Questions for philosophers, I would think. I'd also expect that "fans" of anyone's writing would be more thoroughly obsessive over the object of their fanaticism. You've probably been running into pea-cocking pseudo-intellectuals, not true fans. And I should think it is quite important to show evidence of Nietzsche's bias directly from his writing before making powerful claims as to his opinions on the topics discussed herein.
@OldSchopenhauer Your supposition rests upon the unfounded and silly notion that Nietzsche would have joined the Nazis because he wrote about the Aryans and Pre-Aryan races. lol. How stupid.
@martynblackburn1977 "Your supposition rests upon the unfounded and silly notion that Nietzsche would have joined the Nazis because he wrote about the Aryans and Pre-Aryan races." That was never supposed in my comments; you simply "pulled it out of your ass", so to speak. Lol, how stupid. (:
since i cant find the money to enjoy the mountians of eorope and germany the smokry mountains fit nicely with this song. , i go there every year on vaction and the scenery of the mountains there are just as suiting as the ones in europe. try it.
@marcodx80 So what? Are you blaming Wagner for Hitler and the Nazis? You are what I call a musical moron - someone who always connects Wagner with Hitler. This is supposed to be about music, not politics.
@Tolstoevskii I'm using the term loosely. I know that the Classical era in music preceded the Romantic era. That is very basic knowledge, but for the sake of ease of communication, I like to go with classical music in what most people know and identify as classical music, putting audience over correctness.
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God822mh 1 week ago
Yo amo a este hombre!
VampireMizusawa7 2 weeks ago
The gushy tune was too beautiful to be used just once so Wagner elaborated on something similar to the Rienzi Tune later on, in the Gotterdammerung prelude, just before the scene with Brunhilde and Siegfried (was gonna post it but Youtube won't let me).
vacuouss1 2 weeks ago
who is the idiot who cut off the clip JUST as the crescendo of this piece begins. i mean, COME ON people. are you really that incredibly stupid to upload garbage?
here's a rule to live by: NEVER UPLOAD A VIDEO CLIP UNLESS 5 OF YOUR FRIENDS SPONTANEOUSLY VOLUNTEER THAT YOU DO SO.
kenramonet9 3 weeks ago
@kenramonet9
It was very right to close here, because afterwards only comes all that, what Wagners time had on Dschingderassabummbumm' (German said). That was not quite the later genius, only one of his youthworks - whithout this melody.
helisua142857 1 week ago
Just how beautiful can music be? A pity about the cut off,
Teddyb1939 1 month ago
Beautiful
Br1an37 1 month ago
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ihr amis. wird das niemals begreifen: ihr seid von geburt an einfach dumm
achimDU1 1 month ago
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death to jews!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
EktailounteGraikyloi 1 month ago
Wabosi, Du kannst mich nicht meinen! Du bist sicherlich ein etwas "dummer Mensch", aber okay, wir haben heute eine Demokratie, da muss es auch "DUMME" geben!
In der heutigen Demokratie müssen wir auch Menschen wie "Wabosi" zulassen, da wir keine Handhabe haben, diesen Menschen zu .................!
achimDU1 1 month ago
Hitler was not only a maniac, but a painter and a vegetarian! Go figure....
elainebmack 1 month ago
To understand the Wagner/Hitler connection in regards to this piece, watch
the documentary "The Architecture of Doom" by Peter Cohen. It's on YouTube. Hitler was deeply inspired by Wagner's ideas about the greatness of the Germanic soul, as well as his anti-semitic notions. It is always strange how beauty, greatness, and ugliness can be so intertwined.
elainebmack 1 month ago
@elainebmack Вагнер не антисемит! Прочтите его труд "Опера и драма".
Уточните национальность его жены.
И не связывайте его имя с именем негодяя.
А главное, если вы не слышите музыку Вагнера, то зачем все эти рассуждения.
Никогда красота не переплетается с уродством.
peripateta 2 weeks ago
@peripateta I am sorry, but my Russian is not very good yet. Can you please have someone translate this? Spasiba!!
elainebmack 2 weeks ago
Which orchestra and conductor is performing this?
vipersquad 1 month ago
what a nut! wir Deutschen etc.the guy is so full of bull. He should be cooked in his own pudding.Germans are the Master race and will always be that ..Can anyone imagin a world without brains??
wabosi 1 month ago
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@wabosi Wabosi, Du kannst mich nicht meinen! Du bist sicherlich ein etwas "dummer Mensch", aber okay, wir haben heute eine Demokratie, da muss es auch "DUMME" geben!
In der heutigen Demokratie müssen wir auch Menschen wie "Wabosi" zulassen, da wir keine Handhabe haben, diesen Menschen zu .................!
achimDU1 1 month ago
Wir Deutschen haben alles verloren......
Wir müssen nun für die Amerikaner arbeiten, bis wir tot sind und keinen Wert mehr haben!
Und wenn wir tot sind, dann nimmt sich der Ami die Asiaten. die er ebenfalls ausbeutet!
Wir Deutschen haben nichts mehr, wir haben alles verloren, weil uns Menschen verraten haben, die alles den Amis - gegen gutes Geld - uns verkauft haben!
So ist das: Nun gute Nacht Deutschland!!!
achimDU1 1 month ago
Wir haben doch eh alles verloren......
achimDU1 1 month ago
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My grandfather was in the SS in Berlin!
So I'm not a NAZI, but my grandfather was in the Berlin of Hitler's bodyguard, the name of my grandfather was: HELMUT HENN!
achimDU1 1 month ago
Ich sollte nur die Musik hören und mir die Kommentare ersparen, auch wenn sie oft ganz gut sind.
Angenommen, es gibt einen Gott- er hat einem Menschen wie Wagner, trotz seines nicht so tollen Charakters und der Tatsache, dass er Antisemit war, die Gabe geschenkt, so wundervolle Musik zu komponieren.
Macht es seine Musik schlechter, weil Hitler sie gemocht hatte?
ElvMorgan 1 month ago
Nein, es macht Gott zu einem deutschnationalistischen Antisemiten. Da würd selbst ich wieder in die Kirche gehen.
HerrWagnerfreund 1 month ago
If Wagner was alive today, he`d be turning in his grave
about all these obsolete comments about the unloved Austrian in connection to his adorable music!
It`ll be recommendet to comment about Hitler and Wagner on the videos of the english woman: WINIFRED MARJORIE WILLIAMS (married to Siegfried Wagner).
When Hitler was jailed,she sent him that stationary for to compose -Mein Krampf-.
They had a very intimate friendship from the early 20th,nicknamed each other "Wolf" and "Wini".
Well - go there!!
consuetudinis 2 months ago
Վակ Կարապետյան- Վագներն իմ ամենասիրած կոմպոզիտորների թվին է պատկանում:
Avrilvardges 2 months ago
Actually composed in Rīga, Latvia.
ezraumag 2 months ago
What has Hitler got to do with this piece, you fucking demented moron.
marcusantonius90 3 months ago 3
@marcusantonius90 Hitler absolutely loved Wagner and he based Nazism on Wagner's romantic visions of a glorious and mythical Teutonic past. Hitler even said, "Whoever wants to understand National Socialist Germany must first know Wagner."
thinkingrequired 3 months ago
@thinkingrequired So fucking what? I enjoy the music and so do millions of others - does that mean they are all nazis you fuckwit?
marcusantonius90 2 months ago
@marcusantonius90 It's Godwin's Law. Sooner or later, in any discussion, Hitler will be brought up.
jesusnthedaisychain 2 months ago
@thinkingrequired Furthermore, it so happens that Rienzi in particular was Hitler´s most favorite opera ever since he had to live off painted postcards in the streets of Vienna!
avginkel 2 months ago
@avginkel don't know if it was his most favorite one, but it was crucially important:"1939, after he had become the German Chancellor, he visited Wagner's daughter-in-law, Winifred Wagner in Bayreuth. Upon recounting [watching Rienzi] he exclaimed, "It was in that hour that it all began". Thus, we hear from Hitler himself how influential Wagner and his music was on his later life and political ideals. The prelude to Rienzi was often used at Nazi rallies and prefaced Hitler's speeches."
thinkingrequired 2 months ago
@thinkingrequired
"The prelude to Rienzi was often used at Nazi rallies and prefaced Hitler's speeches."
ok...maybe...but listen: the introduction of the nazi "Wochenschau" (news) was a part of Liszt "Les preludes"...so should we stop hearing Listz now ???
Wagner was long dead as Hitler raised up.
tausendstein 1 month ago
@marcusantonius90 Get a fucking grip asswipe. If Wagner had lived long enough he'd have joined the Nazi party, undoubtedly. So would Nietzsche.
PersonalityDeficit87 1 week ago
@PersonalityDeficit87 Nietzsche would never join the Nazis. Nietzsche was anti-anti-Semitic, and he despised socialism. He also rejected Christianity, which Hitler could not.
martynblackburn1977 4 days ago
@martynblackburn1977 Ironically Nietzsche wrote about the Aryan master race, and Hitler did not.
OldSchopenhauer 1 day ago
@OldSchopenhauer If you are talking about the Superman, then that not related at all to the Aryan master race. The Superman was one individual type.
martynblackburn1977 1 day ago
@martynblackburn1977 No, I'm talking about the Aryan master race as stated in The Genealogy of Morality. Nietzsche's fans are so ignorant of his actual writing.
OldSchopenhauer 1 day ago
@OldSchopenhauer I see. In my copy of GM translated by Horace Barnett Samuel, it appears on page 14. But he was not advocating, as the Nazis did, the return of a biological race called the Aryans. GM is not a blueprint for biological determinism or racial purity.
martynblackburn1977 1 day ago
@OldSchopenhauer Would he have? Would he not have? Questions for philosophers, I would think. I'd also expect that "fans" of anyone's writing would be more thoroughly obsessive over the object of their fanaticism. You've probably been running into pea-cocking pseudo-intellectuals, not true fans. And I should think it is quite important to show evidence of Nietzsche's bias directly from his writing before making powerful claims as to his opinions on the topics discussed herein.
Stingchu1 26 minutes ago
@OldSchopenhauer Your supposition rests upon the unfounded and silly notion that Nietzsche would have joined the Nazis because he wrote about the Aryans and Pre-Aryan races. lol. How stupid.
martynblackburn1977 1 day ago
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@martynblackburn1977 "Your supposition rests upon the unfounded and silly notion that Nietzsche would have joined the Nazis because he wrote about the Aryans and Pre-Aryan races." That was never supposed in my comments; you simply "pulled it out of your ass", so to speak. Lol, how stupid. (:
OldSchopenhauer 1 day ago
Hitler after hearing this piece he said "And thats how my mission started" he was 12.
MrCogito93 3 months ago
Its so beautiful I could cry.
Gabriellaella23 4 months ago 3
Classical music with balls. Germany oh du maine wunderbare.
fomfeinsten 4 months ago 2
since i cant find the money to enjoy the mountians of eorope and germany the smokry mountains fit nicely with this song. , i go there every year on vaction and the scenery of the mountains there are just as suiting as the ones in europe. try it.
iheartvideogames1236 4 months ago
beschreibs mit unbeschreiblich
grotesk87 6 months ago
please maik tell me wich version is this, whos the conductor?...its the best version iv heard so far!
divine604 8 months ago
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MueLLer3594 9 months ago
Rienzi was Wagner's first popular opera. Hardly ever done now. Too long.
Not many recordings. There a live performance on the Ponto label
which is said to be complete.
Tnx for the melodious post.
rockgor 11 months ago
agreed!
Metalface123 1 year ago
Hitlers favourite composition...
marcodx80 1 year ago
@marcodx80 So what? Are you blaming Wagner for Hitler and the Nazis? You are what I call a musical moron - someone who always connects Wagner with Hitler. This is supposed to be about music, not politics.
McGravity1 1 year ago
@McGravity1 It was only a statement... no more and not less!!!
marcodx80 1 year ago 3
@McGravity1 That actually was a compliment on Wagner
Napoleontas 1 year ago
Errinert mich immer an SPIEGEL TV GESCHICHTE der Abspann....
sehr schöne Stelle !
Michl210384 1 year ago
I love this man's music
MRwagnerism 1 year ago
Aryan music - noble, spiritual and strong.
marcusantonius90 1 year ago 2
@marcusantonius90
Never heard before, that the aryan tribe was famous for music ;)
What do you know about the musik thousand of years in the past, are you a music-historian? Sorry for my bad english, I 'm german ;)
78Friese 1 year ago
@78Friese Best wishes for musical Germany!
bonnmystic 6 months ago
As a Tchaikovskian, I can't stand Wagner's operas. But the massive beauty of this theme by Wagner beats anything I've heard.
muthafakataka2 1 year ago
@muthafakataka2 er try listening to some of his good stuff then, I'm sure you won't be diappointed
chrish12345 9 months ago
who is the conductor?
divine604 1 year ago
Noble, serious, magnificent music.
marcusantonius90 1 year ago
I find this to be the most beautiful melody I have heard in any classical music.
aixelsydyslexia 1 year ago 31
@aixelsydyslexia Another good one to listen to is Elsa's Prcessional to the Cathedral! Thats one of his Best!
Nixonfan2011 1 year ago
@Nixonfan2011 Yes, it's a nice one. Funny that we played it a year or so ago in one of the local symphonies I play with. I recommend it.
aixelsydyslexia 1 year ago
@aixelsydyslexia this isn't classical music, it's the romantic era
Tolstoevskii 1 year ago
@Tolstoevskii I'm using the term loosely. I know that the Classical era in music preceded the Romantic era. That is very basic knowledge, but for the sake of ease of communication, I like to go with classical music in what most people know and identify as classical music, putting audience over correctness.
aixelsydyslexia 1 year ago
Es endet mitt in einem Takt wie ein interuptus musicale. Entsetzlich!
TheHaasehindenberg 1 year ago
I just love that piece
RoyalistUK 2 years ago 18