If u want to compare do it in the right way...don;t play with US<UK...compare us with Afghanistan,Pakistan...that is how much freedom we have, that is how we live...UK,US, che mi che lol
As long as it doesn't contradict your government it's called freedom lol. Look at the Patriot act in USA. Look at what happened to a boy who made a video with BF2 footage about killing American soldiers... Man you are not that naïve are you?
what does this have to do with what I've said? Or do you think I should shut up cause you are female?? lol I respect you but I say what I've got in my mind. sorry if it contradicts your opinion ;D
to put it in Chomsky's words: "We got moderate freedom of speech in the west but we have absolutely no freedom of thought." So this means they can say what they want but what they want to say has already been controlled, so they won't say anything against their own government....
with all their faults it is somehoe better than Stalin regime currently ruling Armenia...at least they don't jail me in the UK for my inconvient thoughts...I dealt wit police here and only have respect for them whereas in Armenia police should be the second one after criminal Govt to be jailed for all the committed crimes agianst its own ppl...
O I can site you police incidents in the UK. You think they never shot someone by accident? O and that time they chased down and mercilessly killed a South American immigrant, was probably in my dream... Do you even know the British history? What do you know about their Empire? Colonization? Converting of the indigenous people? Oppression of the Irish SUNDAY BLOODY SUNDAYYYYY nice song....Nice government :S
Yes, and it was all over the press and measures were taken against...incidents happen, but when in Yerevan cafe president's bodyguards shots dead on purpose a man for greeting a president that is what is astonishing...no investigation, of course...everyone knows but nobody can talk in Stalin regime country...y/day was jailed a man who dared to talk on October 7 murders!
President of Armemia orchestrats openly murders and ppl r jailed for daring to speak abt!
Please wake up... for all I'm concerned every government is criminal. They are like mafia, collecting protection money (taxes) while screwing them over everywhere they can. Nevertheless we can't do it without one. Armenian government is doing it's best in a very hard situation. Blockades from the turks, Azeris, increasingly bad relations with Georgia etc.... It's not easy still we do ok. Provocation our government is not the solution. You really think Levon is any different?
if you (levon) take over and start live in Armenia the way you want how about others? according to levons slogans for sure serj sargsyan will be executed the same day, policmens will be prisoned (10 day stuff), others will be humiliated in the streets as takanq.
meghk enq, che vor kam SS kam LTP...Isn't there a way to use all this and bring Raffi to power...he seems to be one who both sides agree with...btw, until now I thought u favoured LTP, glad to see u critisize both!;-)
i would say if we keep levon/levonakan autoritarian ideology away from power and try put presure on government to act 'for people too' that would be best for now. otherwise if we will hope someone could fix everything in one day we'll end up with different SS and LTP and will never move from where we are now.
I don't think LTP will fix but I don't think that those who ordered to shoot at peaceful demonstrators and them to blame them deserve to be our country's leaders.They proved that to keep power they will shoot at their own ppl...That is not how I percieve my President...I have zero respect and trust in them...and now the way they use global price rise to double and tripple it in Armenia only proves my point.
vpargev is insulting people here that is why he gets his bad wors back from vparqev and vpargeve. i know it's not goot but also
revently i've realised that the 'real' name/account does not matter, what does matter is what we say. i liked one sentence from garabedartin and i stated it laudly. i'll reject something from hem i don't like.
if you (levon) take over and start live in Armenia the way you want how about others? according to levons slogans for sure serj sargsyan will be executed the same day, policmens will be prisoned (10 day stuff), others will be humiliated in the streets as takanq. this is the way you (levon) want live in Armania
This is bullshit!! Levon is a cocksucker and now he divides Armenians. We always have been strong together! what is this shit? Israeli USA cocksucking thugs try to separate us? You see what the Azeris has done while we ware fighting each other? Don't you understand there is no way Armenia is getting better by creating divisions between people? You bitch about wealth?why?Has Armenia ever been more wealthy than today? What has Levon done? Has he given you bread? Wake up and see who our friends are
No, it is in Yerevan. Since they were not given premises to gather they did think to gather in neighbouring Georgia but at the last moment newly appointed Nalbandyan gave them premise...eventually we have woken up and that is the reason that we don't want to be slaves of several powerful ppl in Armenia who spit into our faces every day, mer kashin qerel en, aryunn el xmel en, el ban chen toghel, baic eli en anum!
You seam to be a levelheaded guy. I do not have a judgement one way or the other because I don't know enough. But soberness will pay off in the end. We can't afford to throw one sock when we do not have another. Because Robert/Serge are tyrant Levon is in noway any better. Who is the other alternative can you tell me?
I want to live in Armenia just like I live in the UK, here I dealt with police and it was a pleasure, I trust them 100% but in Armenia they just come and take our men any time they want, for absolutely no reason, they can find reason for anyone, anything, can't they? U give them big amount of money, ur free,this is only one example...
Bullshit!! The same goes for every "modern" country. Only recently an innocent man was lifted from his bed in the middle of the night in Germany and transported to a third world country where he was tortured an later imprisoned in Guantanamo. That's your whole problem guys, you think the west is a paradise and you can get into the paradise by joining them in EU or other bullshit. You should know my friend NO ONE will give anything to the Armenians for free.You think dividing us is the best way?
I live in the UK and I know the difference between free, democratic country and third world country ruled by Stalin regime! Divide? Unite? With who exactly? me to unite with betrayors of ppl of Armenia? For how long ur going to pretend there is a stability in Armenia when ppl of Armenia r crying for help?Unfortunatelly for u now there r many videos which show ppl of Armenia...
You don't know who I want to unite?? Who do you consider to be the betrayers, I am very interested? Our own Armenians? Or do you think UK USA or Israel is our friend? I know what you think, but consider that USA and Israel are best friends with Turkey. Also Armenia is not suffering more than any other former SU country. Armenian economy grows as fast as Azerbaijani, faster than the Georgian and we don't have any sea nor Oil. I know we are far from being a leading country but we will get there.
it is not our economy grows but their own pockets...it all goes only into their pockets, in Armenia ppl are extremerly ppo , govt are millionars, if u take ut time and watch some of my videos u will expand knowledge of Armenia, and pls, stop frightening us with Israel, Turkey,US, it was "our" govt which fired at us on March 1!
Nice words but have you been looking at the footage?You say firing at us?US? I have seen only thugs and thieves looting our own shops.Now I do know it got out of hand, and I am not defending what happened, but you paint a very beautiful picture of the Armenian government killing innocent people. It's not true. Most of them who went on riots did it like hooligans.Also you don't know shit about freedom in the west I see.Have you ever read something good about Russia in UK? Freedom of speech my ass
There is nothing unfortunate about it, I am all in for free speech. But don't get fooled that your UK has more freedom than Armenia. Only censure on different subjects. You compare the Stalin regime to the modern times? WHY??? Compare Stalin regime to it's own time!! HITLER was from the WEST don't forget. You are not putting things into perspective. Also what does Stalin have to do with Armenia? Also didn't Stalin liberate the world form Nazi oppression?
aprek joxovurt jan inch dataran dataranere sax saxvac en poxov serji u roberti aselov en saxin datum xarabaxci bozi txak Levon naxhagaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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titer2000 3 years ago
If u want to compare do it in the right way...don;t play with US<UK...compare us with Afghanistan,Pakistan...that is how much freedom we have, that is how we live...UK,US, che mi che lol
BeautySavesWorld 3 years ago
As long as it doesn't contradict your government it's called freedom lol. Look at the Patriot act in USA. Look at what happened to a boy who made a video with BF2 footage about killing American soldiers... Man you are not that naïve are you?
TheGreatOctober 3 years ago
I am female, I hought it was obvious....don;t u ,govbt supporters have any sense of intuition? lol
BeautySavesWorld 3 years ago
what does this have to do with what I've said? Or do you think I should shut up cause you are female?? lol I respect you but I say what I've got in my mind. sorry if it contradicts your opinion ;D
TheGreatOctober 3 years ago
to put it in Chomsky's words: "We got moderate freedom of speech in the west but we have absolutely no freedom of thought." So this means they can say what they want but what they want to say has already been controlled, so they won't say anything against their own government....
TheGreatOctober 3 years ago
with all their faults it is somehoe better than Stalin regime currently ruling Armenia...at least they don't jail me in the UK for my inconvient thoughts...I dealt wit police here and only have respect for them whereas in Armenia police should be the second one after criminal Govt to be jailed for all the committed crimes agianst its own ppl...
BeautySavesWorld 3 years ago
O I can site you police incidents in the UK. You think they never shot someone by accident? O and that time they chased down and mercilessly killed a South American immigrant, was probably in my dream... Do you even know the British history? What do you know about their Empire? Colonization? Converting of the indigenous people? Oppression of the Irish SUNDAY BLOODY SUNDAYYYYY nice song....Nice government :S
TheGreatOctober 3 years ago
Yes, and it was all over the press and measures were taken against...incidents happen, but when in Yerevan cafe president's bodyguards shots dead on purpose a man for greeting a president that is what is astonishing...no investigation, of course...everyone knows but nobody can talk in Stalin regime country...y/day was jailed a man who dared to talk on October 7 murders!
President of Armemia orchestrats openly murders and ppl r jailed for daring to speak abt!
BeautySavesWorld 3 years ago
Please wake up... for all I'm concerned every government is criminal. They are like mafia, collecting protection money (taxes) while screwing them over everywhere they can. Nevertheless we can't do it without one. Armenian government is doing it's best in a very hard situation. Blockades from the turks, Azeris, increasingly bad relations with Georgia etc.... It's not easy still we do ok. Provocation our government is not the solution. You really think Levon is any different?
TheGreatOctober 3 years ago
We need a decent person who loves Armenia and her ppl, just like the one they killed-Karen Demirchyan.
BeautySavesWorld 3 years ago
and i have swallowed the last sentence from garabedartin as a pill that heals the mind
In Hayastan you risk your body elsewhere you have to dispense your soul for nothing.
vparqev 3 years ago
'the way you want'? Hell no!
if you (levon) take over and start live in Armenia the way you want how about others? according to levons slogans for sure serj sargsyan will be executed the same day, policmens will be prisoned (10 day stuff), others will be humiliated in the streets as takanq.
vparqev 3 years ago
meghk enq, che vor kam SS kam LTP...Isn't there a way to use all this and bring Raffi to power...he seems to be one who both sides agree with...btw, until now I thought u favoured LTP, glad to see u critisize both!;-)
Qo nman asem, kiddo? ;-)))
BeautySavesWorld 3 years ago
BeautySavesWorld
sorry confusing you, i'm vparqev not vpargev
i would say if we keep levon/levonakan autoritarian ideology away from power and try put presure on government to act 'for people too' that would be best for now. otherwise if we will hope someone could fix everything in one day we'll end up with different SS and LTP and will never move from where we are now.
vparqev 3 years ago
I don't think LTP will fix but I don't think that those who ordered to shoot at peaceful demonstrators and them to blame them deserve to be our country's leaders.They proved that to keep power they will shoot at their own ppl...That is not how I percieve my President...I have zero respect and trust in them...and now the way they use global price rise to double and tripple it in Armenia only proves my point.
BeautySavesWorld 3 years ago
vparqev, why ru cloning Pargev? I am sorry, I am not going to communicate with clone..please, come back with a real account.
BeautySavesWorld 3 years ago
BeautySavesWorld
vpargev is insulting people here that is why he gets his bad wors back from vparqev and vpargeve. i know it's not goot but also
revently i've realised that the 'real' name/account does not matter, what does matter is what we say. i liked one sentence from garabedartin and i stated it laudly. i'll reject something from hem i don't like.
thus i take or reject opinions not the person.
vpargeve 3 years ago
'the way yiou want'? Hell no!
if you (levon) take over and start live in Armenia the way you want how about others? according to levons slogans for sure serj sargsyan will be executed the same day, policmens will be prisoned (10 day stuff), others will be humiliated in the streets as takanq. this is the way you (levon) want live in Armania
vparqev 3 years ago
This is bullshit!! Levon is a cocksucker and now he divides Armenians. We always have been strong together! what is this shit? Israeli USA cocksucking thugs try to separate us? You see what the Azeris has done while we ware fighting each other? Don't you understand there is no way Armenia is getting better by creating divisions between people? You bitch about wealth?why?Has Armenia ever been more wealthy than today? What has Levon done? Has he given you bread? Wake up and see who our friends are
TheGreatOctober 3 years ago
U live good in ur country, we want the same, can we, pls live in OUR country the way WE want??
BeautySavesWorld 3 years ago
Where is this congressional gathering?
It is not in a building in Yerevan.
Russia?
Artnazek hayer! Inch ek ouzoum?
garabedartin 3 years ago
No, it is in Yerevan. Since they were not given premises to gather they did think to gather in neighbouring Georgia but at the last moment newly appointed Nalbandyan gave them premise...eventually we have woken up and that is the reason that we don't want to be slaves of several powerful ppl in Armenia who spit into our faces every day, mer kashin qerel en, aryunn el xmel en, el ban chen toghel, baic eli en anum!
BeautySavesWorld 3 years ago
Thank you Beauty.
You seam to be a levelheaded guy. I do not have a judgement one way or the other because I don't know enough. But soberness will pay off in the end. We can't afford to throw one sock when we do not have another. Because Robert/Serge are tyrant Levon is in noway any better. Who is the other alternative can you tell me?
garabedartin 3 years ago
Garabedartin! Qich mnum chkhosam hett for clling me a guy ! LOL I am a female, that's why I talk so much lol
I don;t know much abt politics myself, but this is not exactly abt politics, we just cannot take it anymore,
BeautySavesWorld 3 years ago
Nerir intz Hye Geghetzguhi!
This country has had no government of its own for 800 years. This is the route to lawfulness. Nothing is created overnight.
There is no margin of comparison with the places we live in. In Hayastan you risk your body elsewhere you have to dispense your soul for nothing.
garabedartin 3 years ago
I want to live in Armenia just like I live in the UK, here I dealt with police and it was a pleasure, I trust them 100% but in Armenia they just come and take our men any time they want, for absolutely no reason, they can find reason for anyone, anything, can't they? U give them big amount of money, ur free,this is only one example...
BeautySavesWorld 3 years ago
Bullshit!! The same goes for every "modern" country. Only recently an innocent man was lifted from his bed in the middle of the night in Germany and transported to a third world country where he was tortured an later imprisoned in Guantanamo. That's your whole problem guys, you think the west is a paradise and you can get into the paradise by joining them in EU or other bullshit. You should know my friend NO ONE will give anything to the Armenians for free.You think dividing us is the best way?
TheGreatOctober 3 years ago
I live in the UK and I know the difference between free, democratic country and third world country ruled by Stalin regime! Divide? Unite? With who exactly? me to unite with betrayors of ppl of Armenia? For how long ur going to pretend there is a stability in Armenia when ppl of Armenia r crying for help?Unfortunatelly for u now there r many videos which show ppl of Armenia...
BeautySavesWorld 3 years ago
You don't know who I want to unite?? Who do you consider to be the betrayers, I am very interested? Our own Armenians? Or do you think UK USA or Israel is our friend? I know what you think, but consider that USA and Israel are best friends with Turkey. Also Armenia is not suffering more than any other former SU country. Armenian economy grows as fast as Azerbaijani, faster than the Georgian and we don't have any sea nor Oil. I know we are far from being a leading country but we will get there.
TheGreatOctober 3 years ago
it is not our economy grows but their own pockets...it all goes only into their pockets, in Armenia ppl are extremerly ppo , govt are millionars, if u take ut time and watch some of my videos u will expand knowledge of Armenia, and pls, stop frightening us with Israel, Turkey,US, it was "our" govt which fired at us on March 1!
Don;t look for betrayers too far away...
BeautySavesWorld 3 years ago
Nice words but have you been looking at the footage?You say firing at us?US? I have seen only thugs and thieves looting our own shops.Now I do know it got out of hand, and I am not defending what happened, but you paint a very beautiful picture of the Armenian government killing innocent people. It's not true. Most of them who went on riots did it like hooligans.Also you don't know shit about freedom in the west I see.Have you ever read something good about Russia in UK? Freedom of speech my ass
TheGreatOctober 3 years ago
Blatant lies and remoinds al ot Turkish position: blaming the victims!
BeautySavesWorld 3 years ago
lol wtf are you talking about?
TheGreatOctober 3 years ago
There is nothing unfortunate about it, I am all in for free speech. But don't get fooled that your UK has more freedom than Armenia. Only censure on different subjects. You compare the Stalin regime to the modern times? WHY??? Compare Stalin regime to it's own time!! HITLER was from the WEST don't forget. You are not putting things into perspective. Also what does Stalin have to do with Armenia? Also didn't Stalin liberate the world form Nazi oppression?
TheGreatOctober 3 years ago
free speach e.. peace!!
ulula19 3 years ago
payqar, payqar. payqar
armenianeagle62 3 years ago
payqar payqar minchev chari(serji u robi) verj@
edogevo 3 years ago
" Մեկ ազգ, մեկ պետություն, մեկ հավատք "
Armenuuhii 3 years ago 5
aprek joxovurt jan inch dataran dataranere sax saxvac en poxov serji u roberti aselov en saxin datum xarabaxci bozi txak Levon naxhagaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
ESCADA077 3 years ago