for better experiment , it is better to know how much salt you have mix with pure water (e.g. 1 Liter water) measure temperature durinng operation, measure voltage and current, also very inportant contineously measure with a flow meter the amount of hydrogen or HHO produced.
then check your generator needs how much gas for one hour operation, does your gas production in one hour is equivalent with the generator requirement to produce 25Kw, compare with electricity you used, then explain
i dont see why you would use electricity to power your HHO system to then power a generator to then produce alternating current all over again. if u have the electricity to power the hho, no need for a generator lol. you would lose energy through all the electrolysis process
@tsekTheTruth it's about designing a system that produces more than enough HHO gas to burn in a propane driven 25+KW generator. You'll use maybe 5KW or less to produce the gas, but you'll still have a surplus of 20KW to use afterwards..
@moonielo 316 stainless steel will last better than 304 or 400 seriies, 317 staibnless steel even better corrosion resistance than 316. ofcourse it depends to electrolyte characteristics , such as temp, salt concentration, but overall 316 or 317 are better choice, you can even use titanium plates which are best for these purpose but aare very costly.
Awsome cell I am working on the diode can you help me out what parts are you using I am trying to build a cell to run a centrifugal engine design but will need at least 20 lpm and found more voltage to be more efficient any help would be appreciated.
just buy a diode bridge module off Ebay. I bought a nice big one for $20 off Ebay. It's a hefty one and mounts to a heatsink. It takes like 600V and 60A.
I just used a 350W computer power supply and mounted the 600V, 60A diode module in the chassis. I've got 120VAC wired directly to the module and the output 120VDC comes out on a separate wire pair. The 12VDC coming from the computer PSU is totally separate and just runs the flow pump, which requires 12VDC.
The idea of recirculating is an excellent one. Not only does it refresh but it helps keep heating down a bunch. That's how I solved a problem we had with the smack booster..
Your cell looks super clean. Good Job. I didn't think that the HHOGlabs EPD bubbler could flow that much. Good thing its there, better safe than sorry. What size is your plates? Adding another ten plates would drop your volts per plate gap and improve efficiency. It would make about the same amount of gas with less heat.
the HHOGlabs bubbler probably isn't made for such high gas flow, but I thought I'd give it a try. Now that I have one, I will likely build a bigger one that can handle high volumes of gas and for visual representation on the amount of gas that's being generated.
it will be used for cooking and heating. possibly as a heat source for a Stirling engine or to run a propane 22KW generator once I get it all tricked out.
add some plates and your system will be more effecient and create more hho and less heat and no need for radiator! 5 plates could easily be added to this system and efficiency would raise. larger gaps will allow for no pump also!
the next one I build will have more plates. I have 1/8th inch spacing between the plates. I was told this is the standard spacing. the flowpump works better in my opinion instead of having gravity flow the electrolyte into the cell.
Lucky me, I get to be the first to comment. Lots of questions but I'll stick to heat, total amperage used, electrolyte or no, and are you using a pulsed system? Great stuff.
Amperage is based upon the amount of KOH concentration. I've added an amount of KOH to make it draw 15-17A on a cold startup. No pulsed system. Just 125VAC from a wall outlet fed into a 60A diode rectifier. I need to add some filtering caps to remove the AC ripple voltage. Also need to add a bronze core radiator to pull the heat out of the electrolyte which gets to about 160F after 30 mins of runtime due to 2500W being used..Still a work in progress..
please do a gas measure test how long to fill 500mls times by 2
jawbraeka 4 months ago
for better experiment , it is better to know how much salt you have mix with pure water (e.g. 1 Liter water) measure temperature durinng operation, measure voltage and current, also very inportant contineously measure with a flow meter the amount of hydrogen or HHO produced.
then check your generator needs how much gas for one hour operation, does your gas production in one hour is equivalent with the generator requirement to produce 25Kw, compare with electricity you used, then explain
123kkambiz 4 months ago
That's no where near 20LPM, it's dumping into a 4L Jug, if it was really 20LPM, that jug would be bubbling over and spalshing water everywhere
OriginalBrett610 4 months ago
amperage ? or watts? mmw would be better
aterack833 5 months ago
how much does it coast to buy this dry cell?
uslan801 1 year ago
i dont see why you would use electricity to power your HHO system to then power a generator to then produce alternating current all over again. if u have the electricity to power the hho, no need for a generator lol. you would lose energy through all the electrolysis process
tsekTheTruth 2 years ago
@tsekTheTruth it's about designing a system that produces more than enough HHO gas to burn in a propane driven 25+KW generator. You'll use maybe 5KW or less to produce the gas, but you'll still have a surplus of 20KW to use afterwards..
altern8energy 2 years ago
@altern8energy Have you come close to these numbers? Pretty amazing if you did!
KyleCarrington 5 months ago
do you know how long does the stainless steel last if being continuously used? does anyone else knows??? thanks.
moonielo 2 years ago
I don't know. I'm using a nickle alloy for my plates so I don't have a corrosion problem.
altern8energy 2 years ago
@moonielo 316 stainless steel will last better than 304 or 400 seriies, 317 staibnless steel even better corrosion resistance than 316. ofcourse it depends to electrolyte characteristics , such as temp, salt concentration, but overall 316 or 317 are better choice, you can even use titanium plates which are best for these purpose but aare very costly.
123kkambiz 4 months ago
That my friend, is a Beautiful piece of equipment.....nice work!
bjk14510 2 years ago
Awsome cell I am working on the diode can you help me out what parts are you using I am trying to build a cell to run a centrifugal engine design but will need at least 20 lpm and found more voltage to be more efficient any help would be appreciated.
earthgfe 2 years ago
just buy a diode bridge module off Ebay. I bought a nice big one for $20 off Ebay. It's a hefty one and mounts to a heatsink. It takes like 600V and 60A.
altern8energy 2 years ago
But what else you need to build this power module?
hydroxmobile 2 years ago
I just used a 350W computer power supply and mounted the 600V, 60A diode module in the chassis. I've got 120VAC wired directly to the module and the output 120VDC comes out on a separate wire pair. The 12VDC coming from the computer PSU is totally separate and just runs the flow pump, which requires 12VDC.
altern8energy 2 years ago
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EnergySupply2008 2 years ago
The idea of recirculating is an excellent one. Not only does it refresh but it helps keep heating down a bunch. That's how I solved a problem we had with the smack booster..
thriceblessedman 2 years ago
Your cell looks super clean. Good Job. I didn't think that the HHOGlabs EPD bubbler could flow that much. Good thing its there, better safe than sorry. What size is your plates? Adding another ten plates would drop your volts per plate gap and improve efficiency. It would make about the same amount of gas with less heat.
PeteDog444 2 years ago
the HHOGlabs bubbler probably isn't made for such high gas flow, but I thought I'd give it a try. Now that I have one, I will likely build a bigger one that can handle high volumes of gas and for visual representation on the amount of gas that's being generated.
altern8energy 2 years ago
What do you plan on using this much HHO for? I am building a Bob Boyce style box capable of 20 LPM for glass blowing.
PeteDog444 2 years ago
it will be used for cooking and heating. possibly as a heat source for a Stirling engine or to run a propane 22KW generator once I get it all tricked out.
altern8energy 2 years ago
add some plates and your system will be more effecient and create more hho and less heat and no need for radiator! 5 plates could easily be added to this system and efficiency would raise. larger gaps will allow for no pump also!
aquapulsefuel 2 years ago
the next one I build will have more plates. I have 1/8th inch spacing between the plates. I was told this is the standard spacing. the flowpump works better in my opinion instead of having gravity flow the electrolyte into the cell.
altern8energy 2 years ago
What plate gap are you using? Seems a larger gap would allow the cell to flow better without the pump. The 20 lpm is sweet....
Qnabber 2 years ago
Amazing
egn83b 2 years ago
Lucky me, I get to be the first to comment. Lots of questions but I'll stick to heat, total amperage used, electrolyte or no, and are you using a pulsed system? Great stuff.
thriceblessedman 2 years ago
Amperage is based upon the amount of KOH concentration. I've added an amount of KOH to make it draw 15-17A on a cold startup. No pulsed system. Just 125VAC from a wall outlet fed into a 60A diode rectifier. I need to add some filtering caps to remove the AC ripple voltage. Also need to add a bronze core radiator to pull the heat out of the electrolyte which gets to about 160F after 30 mins of runtime due to 2500W being used..Still a work in progress..
altern8energy 2 years ago