Mrs. Taubmen and Mrs. Golandsky has changed my life and life of many of my students. I started my music piano studies at age 18. For years I have had repetitive injuries that almost put me out of business, Now I play teach and help other students. Thank you
Having studied in the Taubman approach for 5 years now I can attest to the unique power of this body of teaching. I have been freed from injury and am experiencing a level of technical skill I never thought was possible.
I am currently studying "in-debth" Taubman with Nina Scolnik at the University of California, Irvine. Let me just say, that the Taubman approach has been scrutinized for being "un-musical". It carries the sterotype that performers are "robotic sounding". These claims are absolutely false. The Taubman approach produces the absolute best of tone quality in a pianist. Not only does it get rid of ANY injury (with proper execution), but alllows the utmost control of the monster instrument.
BTW, I might add that I'm thankful to now have a technique so free and natural that I don't even have to warm up before playing. I can jump straight into the literature — fast or slow — even if I haven't been able to practice for several days or weeks. Hanon and other warm-up exercises are a thing of the past, yet my passage work is more even, with greater tonal control and speed than ever before. Cool thing? Anyone can play this way, as long as they understand principles of coordinate motion.
Awesome video -- every pianist, whether a beginner or a concert pianist can benefit from this amazing body of knowledge and these amazing teachers. I know, b/c these healthy movements that Edna Golandsky taught me transformed me from a near cripple to a pianist with a facility and freedom I had never thought possible.
I am intensly interested in all of this and anything I say is meant in the best possible sense. All of these people in the masterclasses are good music 'students'. They may be teachers too, but what when someone knows all of these things and still has problems with pain? What if they are organising and grouping everything very well? For example, do you think it is possible for Marc-Andre Hamelin to one day need help? He might get tendonitis or something. Can you help pianists on this level?
People can have problems with pain for many reasons, and you need an expert teacher to diagnose each specific situation. It is impossible to say who may one day need help. Having pain is no reflection on the depth of a pianist's talent, but is most often a question of faulty movement patterns. At the Golandsky Institute, we teach pianists that there are positions and movements that will reliably keep their technique healthy and growing, while others will predictably get them into trouble.
Golandsky's 1st obs is right; mvt in middle range Is much more efficient. Itin is economical but dull. EG is charismatic w/Eitel-but she doesn't deal with his bad posture which should come 1st
Last 2 teaching excerpts show EG's enthusiasm, but w/no important insights. Esp shallow: "What would you like-would you like more line?" End tries to sound important and guruish, but w/o substance. Impression:EG has some good phys info, but music-making seems mediocre. Clearly, some feel 'changed,' though
I'm curious, regarding your comment of Itin's playing. Perhaps this is a result of my Joffrey ballet days, but I've often felt that "still/calm" pianists are not "musical". However, once I close my eyes and truly listen, it's another experience entirely. Have you heard Itin's youtube performance of Rachmaninoff's Prelude, Op. 23, No. 10? Listen and see. Let me know what you think, b/c in my opinion, he has moments of the most amazing musicality I've ever heard (of living pianists).
Hi,I'm glad to hear you've gotten a lot of help from this. Re: Itin--I don't hold that view about 'still' pianists in general or Itin in particular.Clearly, he's musical and an excellent pianist (and upon relistening, his LH is very well-shaped. RH, for my taste, is too pointed and often vertical, but it's certainly not bad. Not trying to pick a fight-I found his Rach 23/10 too agitated/fussed with(even if it Is better than Weissenberg!); But there are some better, tender moments near the end.
Hey, discussing pianists and performances is my favorite past time so I honestly appreciate the dialogue! The most amazing thing to me is how we all hear music so differently -- doesn't seem possible. Who are your favorite pianists for Rach? Do you have a blog/discussion in a chatroom elsewhere?
It seems a little presumptuous to make such harsh judgments based on twenty second clips. I would actually attend the seminar or work with a good Taubman teacher before you dismiss the approach out of hand.
I'm a pianist with degrees with from three major conservatories and I feel as if I only really started learning how to play the piano after I began studying the Taubman approach.
Mrs. Taubman's body of knowledge 'changed' not only my playing and teaching, but my entire life.
Some folks simply won't allow themselves to receive this information. Pianogeek54 goes to great lengths to find fault with Edna; a better use of that energy might be to further investigate her work with an open mind. Unfortunately, this promotional video clip is not a good representation of her brilliant teaching - and it IS brilliant.
I am so thrilled I was willing to part with my hard earned cash to purchase Edna's lectures titled The Taubman Techniques as there is NOTHING to rival this documentation when it comes to pianistic issues.
Her most current dvd collection titled The Golandsky Discovery Series continues where the Taubman resources end.
As yet I have not been able to attend Edna's symposiums but as time reveals all, FINGERS CROSSED!
No word of a lie here, ALL people need to hear what Edna is saying!
I can attest to the high quality of the Princeton evening concerts in July. If the top-notch performers are products of the Taubman approach, there's surely a lot to gain by attending the symposium.
Mrs. Taubmen and Mrs. Golandsky has changed my life and life of many of my students. I started my music piano studies at age 18. For years I have had repetitive injuries that almost put me out of business, Now I play teach and help other students. Thank you
ObeeLektro 1 year ago
5:18 Father Sean!!!
KennyMcOnAMac 2 years ago
I should go for it
YYJBL 3 years ago
These are the ABCs of technique.
abath07 3 years ago
It doe not get rid of injuries but it may help reduce the occurance or severity of injuries.
abath07 3 years ago
Nice to see my teacher on here finally. She helped me discover my potential as a musician; the technique is only a vehicle.
ulnapro 3 years ago
Having studied in the Taubman approach for 5 years now I can attest to the unique power of this body of teaching. I have been freed from injury and am experiencing a level of technical skill I never thought was possible.
brendanmcooney 3 years ago
I am currently studying "in-debth" Taubman with Nina Scolnik at the University of California, Irvine. Let me just say, that the Taubman approach has been scrutinized for being "un-musical". It carries the sterotype that performers are "robotic sounding". These claims are absolutely false. The Taubman approach produces the absolute best of tone quality in a pianist. Not only does it get rid of ANY injury (with proper execution), but alllows the utmost control of the monster instrument.
BachFong11 3 years ago
BTW, I might add that I'm thankful to now have a technique so free and natural that I don't even have to warm up before playing. I can jump straight into the literature — fast or slow — even if I haven't been able to practice for several days or weeks. Hanon and other warm-up exercises are a thing of the past, yet my passage work is more even, with greater tonal control and speed than ever before. Cool thing? Anyone can play this way, as long as they understand principles of coordinate motion.
KishaLorraine 3 years ago
Awesome video -- every pianist, whether a beginner or a concert pianist can benefit from this amazing body of knowledge and these amazing teachers. I know, b/c these healthy movements that Edna Golandsky taught me transformed me from a near cripple to a pianist with a facility and freedom I had never thought possible.
KishaLorraine 3 years ago
I am intensly interested in all of this and anything I say is meant in the best possible sense. All of these people in the masterclasses are good music 'students'. They may be teachers too, but what when someone knows all of these things and still has problems with pain? What if they are organising and grouping everything very well? For example, do you think it is possible for Marc-Andre Hamelin to one day need help? He might get tendonitis or something. Can you help pianists on this level?
GypsyPianist 3 years ago
People can have problems with pain for many reasons, and you need an expert teacher to diagnose each specific situation. It is impossible to say who may one day need help. Having pain is no reflection on the depth of a pianist's talent, but is most often a question of faulty movement patterns. At the Golandsky Institute, we teach pianists that there are positions and movements that will reliably keep their technique healthy and growing, while others will predictably get them into trouble.
TaubmanGolandsky 3 years ago
Thank you very much for your answer! Some very fair statemets. I appreciate your logic.
GypsyPianist 3 years ago
wonderful!
DavidAdagio 3 years ago
Golandsky's 1st obs is right; mvt in middle range Is much more efficient. Itin is economical but dull. EG is charismatic w/Eitel-but she doesn't deal with his bad posture which should come 1st
Last 2 teaching excerpts show EG's enthusiasm, but w/no important insights. Esp shallow: "What would you like-would you like more line?" End tries to sound important and guruish, but w/o substance. Impression:EG has some good phys info, but music-making seems mediocre. Clearly, some feel 'changed,' though
pianogeek54 3 years ago
Hey,
I'm curious, regarding your comment of Itin's playing. Perhaps this is a result of my Joffrey ballet days, but I've often felt that "still/calm" pianists are not "musical". However, once I close my eyes and truly listen, it's another experience entirely. Have you heard Itin's youtube performance of Rachmaninoff's Prelude, Op. 23, No. 10? Listen and see. Let me know what you think, b/c in my opinion, he has moments of the most amazing musicality I've ever heard (of living pianists).
KishaLorraine 3 years ago
Hi,I'm glad to hear you've gotten a lot of help from this. Re: Itin--I don't hold that view about 'still' pianists in general or Itin in particular.Clearly, he's musical and an excellent pianist (and upon relistening, his LH is very well-shaped. RH, for my taste, is too pointed and often vertical, but it's certainly not bad. Not trying to pick a fight-I found his Rach 23/10 too agitated/fussed with(even if it Is better than Weissenberg!); But there are some better, tender moments near the end.
pianogeek54 3 years ago
Hey, discussing pianists and performances is my favorite past time so I honestly appreciate the dialogue! The most amazing thing to me is how we all hear music so differently -- doesn't seem possible. Who are your favorite pianists for Rach? Do you have a blog/discussion in a chatroom elsewhere?
KishaLorraine 3 years ago
It seems a little presumptuous to make such harsh judgments based on twenty second clips. I would actually attend the seminar or work with a good Taubman teacher before you dismiss the approach out of hand.
I'm a pianist with degrees with from three major conservatories and I feel as if I only really started learning how to play the piano after I began studying the Taubman approach.
Mrs. Taubman's body of knowledge 'changed' not only my playing and teaching, but my entire life.
bsmusicd 3 years ago
Some folks simply won't allow themselves to receive this information. Pianogeek54 goes to great lengths to find fault with Edna; a better use of that energy might be to further investigate her work with an open mind. Unfortunately, this promotional video clip is not a good representation of her brilliant teaching - and it IS brilliant.
LarsBlockhead 3 years ago 2
I am so thrilled I was willing to part with my hard earned cash to purchase Edna's lectures titled The Taubman Techniques as there is NOTHING to rival this documentation when it comes to pianistic issues.
Her most current dvd collection titled The Golandsky Discovery Series continues where the Taubman resources end.
As yet I have not been able to attend Edna's symposiums but as time reveals all, FINGERS CROSSED!
No word of a lie here, ALL people need to hear what Edna is saying!
David Martin UK
blueglasses2 3 years ago
I can attest to the high quality of the Princeton evening concerts in July. If the top-notch performers are products of the Taubman approach, there's surely a lot to gain by attending the symposium.
archiegek 3 years ago