I hope we can keep these engines running but there is a ned something in the est steamtown railfans being railfans they call it a waist of money thre is still a feeling there shold be trolley musseuems but steamfans will have to take a back seat doneatons are coming forthe PM 1225 but will they be able toget the RR to permit triss and the longer ones they runnare diesle powered and uts te ssteam instutue could htee be enought corperate support to cover other then boiler the need for coaches
When double heading two steam locomotives that are different makes how do you get the engines to work smoothly together. Also when the diesel was driving are the steam engines under power, in a neutral gear? How does a steam engine work when you are not using the steam for power?
@traincowboy I wouldn't think that the make has much to do with it. If each locomotive operates well on it's own, then experienced crews will be able to coordinate with each other for smooth operation. Seam engines have a neutral position on the "Johnson bar". If you don't need steam, you just keep a low fire going so you can b ready to pull if you need to.
I wish we could return to steam, use coal and get away from Fuel oil We have a lot of coal here and we would keep the people employed, and the money in the country. That is probably why they wont allow it. Can't be global warming, that is Bunk now!
How on earth could the UP put a diesel on the point when and stick the two best steamers ever built at the end of the the train? Did they think the #844 was an end of train device or what?
From 1962-1989, the locomotive was numbered UP 8444 due to a conflict with the railroad's numbering plan for the EMD GP30 locomotives that UP owned at the time. After the conflicting GP30 was retired from service in June 1989, 8444 was renumbered back to 844.
Interestingly, the GP30 is preserved and operable and there is now an EMD SD70ACe in UP's roster numbered 8444.
Be awesome to watch - but riding wouldn't be fun in those UP cars. The fun of riding behind the rion horse is to have the windows down, get soot in your eyes, and listen to the whistle scream into the night. Those coaches are airtight!
yes , might be expensive but its worthy , i think also its great to be chasing the train if there is no chance to have a ride on the train. i would like to know more about the short Holiday Express.
hey I know whatyou mean man I have yet to see them together either and I have been doing railphotography for years..and what really sucks I still have never seen just the 844 by herself at all just 3985 and I have rode behind 4449 alone before..I have allways been on other trips when they ran together DAMN the luck so I can relate
1:11 - 2:25 segment. Why are 4449 and 844 at the back? Was there no place for them to be turned around so they could be at the front of the train?
Are there any videos on here covering the 4449 christmas time derailment from a couple years back? I know its not glamorous (although it wasn't the engine's fault, as I recall) but I think it would be interesting to see. I've only read a text article about it.
Nice work. Brought back a lot of memories about my father who used to work on the railroad.
When I was a kid there were about 25 locomotives in the round house and he would take me out there and I would spend hours climbing all over them on a Saturday morning.
UP needs to turn the wheels on their varnish. lot o damn FLAT SPOTS on that train. dipshits need to learn to knock the handbrakes off before they more those cars around..... nice engines. CN SUX THEY DONT HAVE NONE>>>
That would be cool. She's doing fine. We're getting ready for a run to San Diego again. ATSF 2926, another northern, is under restoration in Albaquerque. If we can get there, We'll steam w/ them when they're done. But that's still a ways off.
I know that. I work on a 4-8-4 Northern. I'm just saying that if there was a little, yet noticeable grade, it make the locos work harder, providing a better show. Those 2 combines have more than enough tracktive effort to pull that train by themselves up any major grade.
Its actually known as blowing the horn, and they do that near all the crossings to allert cars and other traffic they are coming, and to other engineers its considered friendly, and may be required though I'm not sure on that.
Its actually known as blowing the horn, and they do that near all the crossings to allert cars and other traffic they are coming, and to other engineers its considered friendly, and may be required though I'm not sure on that.
Never would have ever expected to see a BNSF steamer in the same train with a UP steamer. Great stuff. Nice having a passenger train headed by a Heritage unit.
BNSF is the only RR that could do something like this. UP maintains a strict no foreign steam policy on it's mainlines, yet, they'll obviously let their steam travel on other RRs. BNSF will run just about anything under their authority if they have the insurance & space on the line to do it.
The only reason i can think of them doing that,is that there was no way to turn the train...or It was a photo run going backwards and then forwards again.
If your talking about them using the 1996 to pull the train then yes there was no way to turn the train in tacoma so it had to be pulled to auburn and then wyed then be pulled back to tacoma, but at least Union Pacific had the decency to use the SP 1996.
Have you guys ever thought about Nuclear powered steam locomotive? Instead of coal in the fire-box, it would be a nuclear reactor in there. That would be nice unless you have a meltdown. =)
Brock, Awesome video! Lucca and I trekked down to Fife to see them, but unfortunately the UP website we were relying on to track its progress was a little glitchy, so we ended up arriving after it had pulled into Fife. We are so glad to be able to see how they looked along the way! Thanks! -Pat Howard
2 beautiful ladies...Great job giving everyone a chance to admire true class. Now if we could only petition the government or Bill Gates to ressurect one of the UP Big Boys before we loose them forever.
Fantastic video! I'm just sickened, however, that I had no idea these beautiful locomotives were in the Puget Sound region this past May. I'd have made the trek south to see them in action.
That's the best video I've seen so far of this weekend's special steam excursions. The sounds of those engines pushing track speed is incredible. But where's Brian Bundridge? LOL!
I hope we can keep these engines running but there is a ned something in the est steamtown railfans being railfans they call it a waist of money thre is still a feeling there shold be trolley musseuems but steamfans will have to take a back seat doneatons are coming forthe PM 1225 but will they be able toget the RR to permit triss and the longer ones they runnare diesle powered and uts te ssteam instutue could htee be enought corperate support to cover other then boiler the need for coaches
SUPERDAVIDLEVINE 2 months ago
at 3:41 is that at or near Mukilteo or Picnic Point beach?
B0BBARKER444 9 months ago
Was this a executive train or did they actually pull regular people?
PereMarquette1223 1 year ago
having the two powerful steam engines backward seems demeaning, to me.
HunterR909 1 year ago
When double heading two steam locomotives that are different makes how do you get the engines to work smoothly together. Also when the diesel was driving are the steam engines under power, in a neutral gear? How does a steam engine work when you are not using the steam for power?
traincowboy 1 year ago
@traincowboy I wouldn't think that the make has much to do with it. If each locomotive operates well on it's own, then experienced crews will be able to coordinate with each other for smooth operation. Seam engines have a neutral position on the "Johnson bar". If you don't need steam, you just keep a low fire going so you can b ready to pull if you need to.
CPDave1 1 year ago
Love the diesel train with the gorgeous steamy surprise at the back. :)
doronlassil 1 year ago
beautiful.
wyattnoahliko 1 year ago
There is nothing like the sound of the whisle blowing on those babys!
pianomanmaestro 1 year ago
thank you!
strat8383 1 year ago
2 my favorite trains working in together what a sight! WATCH TRAIN FACTS!!!!!!
trainz34 1 year ago
I wish we could return to steam, use coal and get away from Fuel oil We have a lot of coal here and we would keep the people employed, and the money in the country. That is probably why they wont allow it. Can't be global warming, that is Bunk now!
Benedetto1199 2 years ago
A double header isn't the same without 844 and 4449 leading it. What a great video!
thomasVSstewie 2 years ago
this is awesome but you know what would be even better a tripleheader with these two engines and norfolk and western 611 if she ever gets restored
brickmaster24 2 years ago
Actually 611 already did get restored in 1982.
thomasVSstewie 2 years ago
quad...add Milwaukee Road 261 in the mix...if she ever runs again.....
Starrywarz 1 year ago
@Starrywarz she still runs just not often
brickmaster24 1 year ago
@brickmaster24 the 611 is an absolute gorgeous engine!!!
pstnus2 1 year ago
Did you use windows movie maker for this video?
ThomasRivette 2 years ago
Hey dose anyone know what the music from the Daylight Express movie (1995) was?
RailRoadWorker18 2 years ago
im not trying to be mean here but why the heak would u want a dessiel pulling the train that kinda ruins the steam trains!
RailRoadWorker18 2 years ago
I agree, but I think the main reason they do that is to lighten the load on the steamers so they will last longer. :)
Classicalguy12 2 years ago
@RailRoadWorker18 That was the return trip. They had no place to turn the steam locos.
youngwarrior2 2 years ago
@RailRoadWorker18 atleast they didn't use a regular deisel to pull the train the way back. They used the S.P. heritage diesel.
legokid900 2 years ago
Great job, thanks for the video. My 2 1/2 yr old son loves this one. Travis said thanks as well.
302skinny 2 years ago
Where were they going in the part where they were moving in reverse?
ThomasRivette 2 years ago
Holly SH*T! did that steamer have a horn?
dmontoya699 2 years ago
Well, the Daylight has a horn.
DeltaPhi79 2 years ago
How on earth could the UP put a diesel on the point when and stick the two best steamers ever built at the end of the the train? Did they think the #844 was an end of train device or what?
Weiberts 2 years ago
to pull them back for the next trip maybe?
DeltaPhi79 2 years ago 2
Yep, probably because of the lack of turning facilities
Miketherailfan 2 years ago
yeah whatever happened to that thing called a wye?
dmontoya699 2 years ago
Auburn Yard is the only wye they could turn the train on easily. Hence why the train was being dragged by the 1996.
cnw8717 2 years ago
i love the diesel salute at 0:45 to 0:50 and i love 4449s whistle
tweetsiefan1 2 years ago
From 1962-1989, the locomotive was numbered UP 8444 due to a conflict with the railroad's numbering plan for the EMD GP30 locomotives that UP owned at the time. After the conflicting GP30 was retired from service in June 1989, 8444 was renumbered back to 844.
Interestingly, the GP30 is preserved and operable and there is now an EMD SD70ACe in UP's roster numbered 8444.
Kanefan701 2 years ago
4449 and 844 do make a great combo.
Imagen 4449 and 611 (if she where still runing) together?
Kanefan701 2 years ago
Outstanding !!!!
illxtra 2 years ago
Now what would really be great would be the 4449 leading a Sounder or Cascades Talgo!
Nachtwolf1 2 years ago
Spectacular Vid, thanks so much for sharing, great job chasing the train.
msc4lf 2 years ago
Why is the Southern Pacific name gone off the 4449?
gcrebel2008 2 years ago
The tender been restored it's original look, pre-1960s. Near the top of the tender now reads "Southern Pacific Lines" In small white lettering.
jrahrig 2 years ago
Love the meet between the steamers and the switcher.
Fiddleman200616 2 years ago
Gotta Admit, 4449 and 844 make a hell of a combo.. I bet hearing 844 and 4449's horn sound together is just amazing.
xxxDeath9572xxx 2 years ago
Doyle McCormick is one grand engineer. Along with UP's steam engineers
railfanatic844 2 years ago
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DanielVolker 2 years ago
Excellent video!!! The opening shot with the switcher meeting the doubleheader was awesome no doubt! Nice Work!
eje653 2 years ago
absolutely fantastic!!, im an englishman but i just love and appreciate the american trains, great video 5*****
TheXtremeEnthusiast 2 years ago
I love up 844s whistle. Sounds just like the challenger. The only thing i thought was weird was its whistle placement.
DeltaPhi79 2 years ago
Love the Audio On the first clip great whistle
FitzNS 2 years ago
I love the acknowledgement between the diesel and the 4449 on the first clip..
32INCHSTRIPER 2 years ago
Be awesome to watch - but riding wouldn't be fun in those UP cars. The fun of riding behind the rion horse is to have the windows down, get soot in your eyes, and listen to the whistle scream into the night. Those coaches are airtight!
qlancer 3 years ago
That must've been an incredible two days of train watching!
I would be lying if I said I wasn't more than a little jealous.
birdturd11 3 years ago
does anybody know how often this train runs ? and if its expensive to have a ride on it ?
LennyGaon 3 years ago
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DanielVolker 3 years ago
yes , might be expensive but its worthy , i think also its great to be chasing the train if there is no chance to have a ride on the train. i would like to know more about the short Holiday Express.
LennyGaon 3 years ago
4449's whistle in the beginning is simply amazing!
Xnewyork2 3 years ago
why doesn't she come down to the Oregon state fair anymore? Anyone know? That was one of the only reasons i ever went there.
salemcripple 3 years ago
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DanielVolker 3 years ago
Ah, i see. It was just so cool watching it roll into town. Then being able to get up close to it/tour it.
salemcripple 3 years ago
all those train sounds...such music to my ears...god what i would give to be a kid again, jus one more time...
DJSawBlade 3 years ago 8
I think we all wish that from time to time.
salemcripple 3 years ago
These old steam locomotive relics should have been sent to the scrap yard 60 years ago!
Junk iron!
Cockroach2008 3 years ago
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DanielVolker 3 years ago 6
That a boy Danny Boy, show that nasty old Cockroach who's Boss ; )
ThomasRivette 2 years ago
yer MOMZ junk iron!
WilbertVereAwdry 3 years ago 2
more efficent then diesel, and some steamers like th 20th century could drop a scoop and get water from a trough without even stopping.
yourmamaluigi 3 years ago
Outstanding. Gotta love the diesel salute at 0:45 to 0:50, and the response from the steamer.
Great Job!!
CPDave1 3 years ago 15
i cant wait to go on one of these excursions!
wannabeangel83 3 years ago 3
Totally Awesome Film!!! Nice One!!!
drakester4321 3 years ago
The way the 4449 blew the whistle at 4:24 sounds JUST like the way it did one time on it's way to Sacramento in 1991.
NSguy07 3 years ago 2
2:47 is my favorite part!!!!
TopThrillDan 3 years ago
yea...mine 2...the whistle actually sounds a lil erie???
wannabeangel83 3 years ago
Those two make such a good pair together, nice video 5 stars
TopThrillDan 3 years ago
THANK YOU SO MUCH
petespets 3 years ago
My Lord, look at all those trains.
PredatorBrendan 3 years ago
Holy shart, I've seriously never heard the 4449's horn before. The whistle, of course is drop-dead beautiful.
LoneSniperSG 3 years ago
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DanielVolker 3 years ago
hey I know whatyou mean man I have yet to see them together either and I have been doing railphotography for years..and what really sucks I still have never seen just the 844 by herself at all just 3985 and I have rode behind 4449 alone before..I have allways been on other trips when they ran together DAMN the luck so I can relate
gaycowboy31 3 years ago
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DanielVolker 3 years ago
Superb - gives you goose bumps!!
NapierNimbus 3 years ago
1:11 - 2:25 segment. Why are 4449 and 844 at the back? Was there no place for them to be turned around so they could be at the front of the train?
Are there any videos on here covering the 4449 christmas time derailment from a couple years back? I know its not glamorous (although it wasn't the engine's fault, as I recall) but I think it would be interesting to see. I've only read a text article about it.
ragemanchoo82 3 years ago
correct me if im wrong but was there 2 trains anyway that was one of the colest things i have ever seen keep the vids coming
shininghappyperson7 3 years ago
Brock:
Nice work. Brought back a lot of memories about my father who used to work on the railroad.
When I was a kid there were about 25 locomotives in the round house and he would take me out there and I would spend hours climbing all over them on a Saturday morning.
BoomerNavy70 3 years ago
I didn't know that the southern Pacific SD70aCe heritage Was up here
bigsteam5344 3 years ago
UP needs to turn the wheels on their varnish. lot o damn FLAT SPOTS on that train. dipshits need to learn to knock the handbrakes off before they more those cars around..... nice engines. CN SUX THEY DONT HAVE NONE>>>
CNKILLERCLOWN 3 years ago
That would be cool. She's doing fine. We're getting ready for a run to San Diego again. ATSF 2926, another northern, is under restoration in Albaquerque. If we can get there, We'll steam w/ them when they're done. But that's still a ways off.
MW
TrainDr101 3 years ago
I work on one. ATSF 3751. People who are steam qualified run it.
MW
TrainDr101 3 years ago
This is awesome. It would've been a little better if that route had some grades to it. Nothing major. Something around 0.5 or 0.6%.
TrainDr101 3 years ago 2
I hate steam engines but this is a great kicken video due to the different sounds.
CSXRP 3 years ago
Why?
TrainDr101 3 years ago 2
Because there not as powerful as GE and EMD units and steam units are noisier.
CSXRP 3 years ago
I know that. I work on a 4-8-4 Northern. I'm just saying that if there was a little, yet noticeable grade, it make the locos work harder, providing a better show. Those 2 combines have more than enough tracktive effort to pull that train by themselves up any major grade.
TrainDr101 3 years ago
They're just K5LLA's my friend, some are K5LLAR2's
BNSF5608 3 years ago 2
Does anyone know if they are going to do this again in 2008 and if yes where do you get tickets? Thanks and nice vid!
HABU52 3 years ago 2
The shinkanen trains in japan are fasterand more refined. These trains are just better.
...Ill take a steamer anyday.
DarkTower97 3 years ago 4
My two year old likes to watch these train videos. Stupid question.....are they "honking their horn" or do you call it something else?
tooteyfrootey 3 years ago
Its actually known as blowing the horn, and they do that near all the crossings to allert cars and other traffic they are coming, and to other engineers its considered friendly, and may be required though I'm not sure on that.
Skiingiggy 3 years ago
Its actually known as blowing the horn, and they do that near all the crossings to allert cars and other traffic they are coming, and to other engineers its considered friendly, and may be required though I'm not sure on that.
Skiingiggy 3 years ago
K thanks!!!!
tooteyfrootey 3 years ago
No prob, I'm here to help lol
Skiingiggy 3 years ago
I would call it blowing the whistle.
Baltimora1957 3 years ago 2
Yeah that sounds good too....blowing the whistle
tooteyfrootey 3 years ago 2
Great vid, well put together!
weiwdxnw3nywyxrc98 3 years ago
Terrific - thanks for puttin it up. My boy loves it.
lovethatagave 3 years ago 3
Also, looks a little weird with the 4449 coupled to the rest of the UP train.
operazanotaijin 3 years ago
Never would have ever expected to see a BNSF steamer in the same train with a UP steamer. Great stuff. Nice having a passenger train headed by a Heritage unit.
operazanotaijin 3 years ago
BNSF is the only RR that could do something like this. UP maintains a strict no foreign steam policy on it's mainlines, yet, they'll obviously let their steam travel on other RRs. BNSF will run just about anything under their authority if they have the insurance & space on the line to do it.
TrainDr101 3 years ago
I got to see the 4449 in person at the locomotive house where this beautiful train is stored.
justhes 3 years ago
But not for too much longer....
jimmyp42002 3 years ago
its too bad
justhes 3 years ago
Well they have a new site picked out, just need the money.
jimmyp42002 3 years ago
I hope they get the money.
justhes 3 years ago
Well, simple wonderfull. Two northers head on on a train, heavenly luck for a train spotter!
SteffenReichel 3 years ago
God Bless the Union Pacific Railroad!
They really know how to keep steam alive!
I live in the east and I have to come west to see these beauties live before I get too old to travel.
Wonkawillie77 4 years ago 6
I have a full video of 844 on the point at my channel.
Hyce777 4 years ago 3
God vid, SP should awlays lead.
SF3751 4 years ago 2
That it should.
Hyce777 4 years ago 3
All the way, but mabye not this consist of cars it's pulling here.
SF3751 4 years ago
Yeah, it needws a full set of daylights again :)
Hyce777 4 years ago
Only a small handful remain to this day.
SF3751 4 years ago
Reapaint and rebuild
jimmyp42002 4 years ago
True.
SF3751 4 years ago
Elephant ears never looked so good! LOL.
GP9railfan 4 years ago
wtf?!?!?!?
what did those bastards doing?!?!?!??
you put the crap in the BACK!
wtf was the diesel doing in front?!?!?!
the beaty like the 449 should be where everyone can see it, not in the back like some swithcer?!?!?!
THAT PISSES ME OFF!!!!
halofreak200715645 4 years ago 2
The only reason i can think of them doing that,is that there was no way to turn the train...or It was a photo run going backwards and then forwards again.
smoothie6ft3 4 years ago
It's SP, whats the problem.
SF3751 4 years ago
If your talking about them using the 1996 to pull the train then yes there was no way to turn the train in tacoma so it had to be pulled to auburn and then wyed then be pulled back to tacoma, but at least Union Pacific had the decency to use the SP 1996.
ANDREWAMTRAK 3 years ago
844, since the 1940's has never been out of service. just an ff.
DarkTower97 4 years ago
Not to big on Steam Engines but the only reason I'm favoriting this video is due to the horn on 1:55.
CSXRP 4 years ago
Very good work.
SF3751 4 years ago
i have the 4449 on my train simulator
Trainman11185 4 years ago
me too! :D
EvilFartHead69 4 years ago
its funny how you can hear baseball in the background at 1:35
boeingLL747 4 years ago
Love how the 4449, & the switcher loco both say "hello" to each other.
lostchord359 4 years ago
Nice idea but...
1. Those penny pincin coperat managers ain't gonna spnd that much
2. Nuclear radio activity would still leak out
jimmyp42002 4 years ago
I remember there was a USAF nuclear powered bomber- I think it was a B-36N
richintalent 4 years ago
Have you guys ever thought about Nuclear powered steam locomotive? Instead of coal in the fire-box, it would be a nuclear reactor in there. That would be nice unless you have a meltdown. =)
patana07 4 years ago
Awesome video,man
dutchtrainmanserie22 4 years ago
dang how many baggage cars does that train need
Trainman11185 4 years ago
like a ton
me412fan 4 years ago
what on Earth was 1996 doing there
MaxInterjects 4 years ago
A publicity shot for UP, and to pull the train back because there was no way to turn it.
mafarnz 4 years ago
Well I told a brother hoghead that works on the BN. You have better track, but we (UP) have the better old stuff.
hireddutchcutthroat 4 years ago
Does anyone know when the 4449 will be running next?
Keegan63 4 years ago
I'm guessing the Holiday Express 2007
4449steam 4 years ago
Brock, Awesome video! Lucca and I trekked down to Fife to see them, but unfortunately the UP website we were relying on to track its progress was a little glitchy, so we ended up arriving after it had pulled into Fife. We are so glad to be able to see how they looked along the way! Thanks! -Pat Howard
pwhoward 4 years ago
What's with the modern horn?
mikokat 4 years ago
if you mean in the opening shot, that was the diesel on the siding.
ronthecyborg 4 years ago
What an excellent video. Perfect.
nabezorger 4 years ago
Very beautiful! :)
Oakshand 4 years ago
2 beautiful ladies...Great job giving everyone a chance to admire true class. Now if we could only petition the government or Bill Gates to ressurect one of the UP Big Boys before we loose them forever.
irishman196775 4 years ago
Fantastic video! I'm just sickened, however, that I had no idea these beautiful locomotives were in the Puget Sound region this past May. I'd have made the trek south to see them in action.
placekicker 4 years ago
Great Video! That opening shot was by far the best one I ever saw.
Beaver456 4 years ago
Now that's just cool.
mafarnz 4 years ago
Great Shots! I really liked the angles you took to take the shots. Fantastic runby's!!
2Brails 4 years ago
Sweet. UP 1996 with SP 4449 & UP 844. Now thats definitly good enough to draw out the railfans
DASCO2136 4 years ago
cool
shadowfae19 4 years ago
Oh nice! Gotta love the 4449 and 844 steamers.
THandBfan 4 years ago
Awesome. I'll try to load mine once its finished.
NorthwestRailfan 4 years ago
Great Video!
4449steam 4 years ago 2
That's the best video I've seen so far of this weekend's special steam excursions. The sounds of those engines pushing track speed is incredible. But where's Brian Bundridge? LOL!
railfunny 4 years ago