i noticed how todd makes semi sequels to his previous films this is a semi sequel to welcome to the dollhouse while life during wartime is a semi sequel to happiness
I guess I'm still pro-choice from a LEGAL perspective, but this film has really made me think about abortion way more than any extremist on either side of this basically unsolvable issue.
this movie is one of those movies you have to watch the entire thing, but at the same time, there are some brutal parts to it, like when the little boy holds up an aborted baby in a bag and they show her have sex with a 30 year old, kind of disturbing.
does anyone know why the mom cried a ton at the abortion place? why was she so sad about something she wanted to have happen? it seemed like something went wrong but she said to the daughter everything was fine
@mida12 because Aviva couldn´t have another baby....the end of the film it´s disturbing since the girl is happy bcz she´ll be pregnant again...but she wouldn´t
though my grades in english were shit i think i picked up a thing or two, the river symbolised life, with the boat drifting along it, the lamb was innocence, unawareness, that kind of thing, atleast thats how i saw it, and i could be totally wrong and just making a total twat of myself but hey lifes to short :P
Great film. Can't help think if Aviva's mother was unusually young - those scenes of her trying to convince her daughter to have an abortion would be that much more intense.
yeah, its so weird, yet me and my friend have rented it twice. theres like one more "sex" scene i think. its the weirdest, you should finish the movie though.
This movie is a powerful drama. That it is shocking it is meant to be that way. Lets not forget this is a tragedy what we are witnessing here. We have a young girl whose life was destroyed by the choices her parents made for her. The only thing she wanted was a baby, and that was taken away from her. A society that is concerned only with the superficial. Of course we have Catharsis in the end as in all tragedies...And that is love
i watched this, and at first the movie confused me, with the switching of the main characters. but after i got that all those people were supposed to be the same person, i got to focus on the fact that this movie was totally sad and depressing, although it was realistic
no just because it is a independant iflm does not mean its realistic this movie is far from realistic to normal ppl but we aren't really normal are we >?? the people who watch movies like this we can't really be defined as this... but anyway this movie isin't realistic maybe to some weird child hoes but no you may think its realistic because it isin't hollywood but really does killing an abortion doctor or doing it with a man at least 20 yrs older than you does that make it realistic?
I found it on mininova which searches Torrents...Such an incredible movie...he's got this ability to make you see the human "existential angst", how we try to connect with these packs of meat we call bodies and the closest we can come pales compared to what we need which is an emotional or spiritual connection.
Netflix under independent or if u search it but if u haven't seen welcome to the doll house u may wanna see it since this is the sequel. welcome to the doll house's on this site in segments
This movie truly is magical. People can sit there and say "this is just garbage and uses children in adult situations but that doesn't make it good blah blah blha" but this film truly is great. A intricate, and beautiful story line, a good life lesson, some dark humor, REAL people as actors. Wonder film, everyone should see it, it's simply an expierience that will make you think for days.
Not sure of the 2nd song but I know the first song (the lalala one) is called Aviva Pastoral by N.Larson, you can download it for free on his website.
someone posted somewhere that huckleberry aviva was played by a boy, it's true. He's actor Will Denton. I saw the whole movie and was kinda wondering about that. I'm not sure if there is some kind of symbolic purpose of doing that but if not how bad would it suck if you were auditioning for the part and a male beat you to it.
I didnt get to see the whole movie, and my sound wasnt working and there were no subtitles. so basically i had to make the story up for myself. From what ive seen it was confusing and highly strange.
But i'd love to see the whole film. I have a feeling this is one of those films everyone has seen.
Not the 'Lala' song or 'Lullaby' or 'Aviva Pastoral' or whatever you want to call it [with the girl singing 'la la la la laaa la la la' over a score of notes] but the second one.
This is WAY, WAY more depressing than Oldboy...to be honest, I found the ending of Oldboy almost positive...After all his hell he just wants to forget, and he does...obviously Oldboy has some REAL disturbing parts about it, but I found this one far more depressing and such in the long run...
This was the weirdest movie I've ever seen. I hadn't read the summary of it before I watched it, so I didn't know the same girl was played by different actresses. So I was like wtf is going on? It was twisted and funny though. And twisted.
How is Daniel a name for homosexuals? How did this discussion board get on the topic of homosexuality? Damn, Mama Sunshine would be sad to hear this :)!
@AnniexCostello actually looks can make a movie. by using average people it makes it feel more real. if cameron diaz was the star of this movie it wouldnt make any sense & no one would like it. & not just because shes a bad actress and probably retarded.
@resisthexcept You do have a point but I think that writing, acting, directing, lighting, and score are more important when it comes to quality. A certain kind of look can assist a part greatly but if the actor is doing a horrible job, the role will have much less of an impact on the audience or the role will be ruined all together. It won't matter about how much he or she looks the part.
At least you got to see it :)! I would watch it again, if I were you... It's a pretty good movie, it's really pretty straight-forward, too. Be advised, this movie surpassed the NC-17 rating, so...
This film was stupid....
ClassicTr24 3 months ago
uhhhh wat happened?
MrWarriorguy 4 months ago
Keep pressing 4!! It tells you what you are!!!!
mattgleslie 9 months ago
"the n sync tickets...the cap account"
1656747 11 months ago
i don't get it :s
YoungFrankenstein 1 year ago
wow. this looks disturbing.
ItsOkThatYouSuck 1 year ago 2
Worst movie I have ever seen in my life...
blue5639181 1 year ago
i noticed how todd makes semi sequels to his previous films this is a semi sequel to welcome to the dollhouse while life during wartime is a semi sequel to happiness
trueChaos23 1 year ago
@trueChaos23
Life during Wartime also continues the Mark character from this and Welcome to the Dollhouse.
oliverscott2007 1 year ago
@sweiland75
It's unsolvable in the sense that there isn't any 1 solution to satisfy both sides of the debate.
andrewtheman19 1 year ago
I guess I'm still pro-choice from a LEGAL perspective, but this film has really made me think about abortion way more than any extremist on either side of this basically unsolvable issue.
andrewtheman19 1 year ago
lol my favorite part of the trailer is the in-sync tickets....the cap account
1656747 1 year ago
THIS MOVIE IS AWESOME IN SO MANY WAYS!!! it's realy sad though at parts of the movie!!!! 5/5
1656747 1 year ago
This movie is confusing and bittersweet and downright funny! I love todd solondz yet often find myself doubting his sanity.
wickedwitch222 1 year ago
anyone knows the name of that song? sounds beautiful
CCarmen 1 year ago
the name of the song is called La La. im not sure who it is by
bigwishescometru 1 year ago
@bigwishescometru
i bet she is nina persson
voyarismus 1 year ago
Mark Kermode on Palindromes:
'One of the most self indulgent, pretentious, artsy pieces of nonsensical twaddle.
Give me dumb, stupid mainstream entertainment over this narcissistic whiffle any day.'
indianna22 2 years ago
this movie is one of those movies you have to watch the entire thing, but at the same time, there are some brutal parts to it, like when the little boy holds up an aborted baby in a bag and they show her have sex with a 30 year old, kind of disturbing.
smashleypants 2 years ago 4
This looks thoroughly depressing, not sure if I have the heart to watch it.
TheCreeperKid 2 years ago 4
what was the point of this movie
grotonhomie 2 years ago
When I first saw this I thought it was a really old movie. I was shocked when I found out it was only 5 years old....great movie, in any case :)
SmrtyPntz92 2 years ago
song?
martinboy121995 2 years ago
whats the song
martinboy121995 2 years ago
I love this movie!
thetrentone 2 years ago
does anyone know why the mom cried a ton at the abortion place? why was she so sad about something she wanted to have happen? it seemed like something went wrong but she said to the daughter everything was fine
mida12 2 years ago
she found out that her daughter became infertile after an accident in the procedure of the abortion.
XxslitwristsxX 2 years ago
whaaaat? I totally missed that when did they say that?
mida12 2 years ago
they didnt really say it in the movie, you just kinda get the notion.
XxslitwristsxX 2 years ago
They mention that she had a hysterectomy in the background, the doctors talking.
highflyer3 2 years ago
@mida12 because Aviva couldn´t have another baby....the end of the film it´s disturbing since the girl is happy bcz she´ll be pregnant again...but she wouldn´t
ximsol183 1 year ago
booooooooo thatss gay
paulb9522 2 years ago
fuckin awesome movie.
It's hilariously awkward, and it makes you think.
GO DR. DAN!
Darthzedd 2 years ago 3
FUCKIN DR.DAN MOTHERFUCKERS
XoXoSakuraKissXoXo 2 years ago
how can a comedy like welcome to the doll house go this sour. this trailer made me cry.
eduardoleonm 2 years ago 3
I hope you didn't actually cry,
If you did ur a pussy.
Darthzedd 2 years ago
lol
eduardoleonm 2 years ago
i hear this movie is fucked
CanadaRocker11 2 years ago 2
This looks so sad! :(
TheCreeperKid 2 years ago 3
"Huckleberry" at 1:28 is played by a boy!
And i thought "she" was so cute!
theoxiiii 2 years ago
I watched this movie 2 times. Its messed. Believe me. MESSED!
theangelnamedangela 2 years ago 3
This movie as great, totally reccommend it
NYCITALIAN82 2 years ago
Todd Solondz!!! I NEED to watch this.
maddyofcourse 2 years ago 2
I never heard of this movie but I loved welcome to the doll house. Is this one better?
TheAtomic1234321 2 years ago 3
oh you have to see this and Happiness. This movie actually mentions Dawn as an adult. Its disturbingly hilarious!
mrsmullin 2 years ago 2
top movie. love the way the lead is played by several different actors.
robertodowneso 2 years ago 2
what's the symbolism of the lamb in the boat scene?
supermesh31 2 years ago
though my grades in english were shit i think i picked up a thing or two, the river symbolised life, with the boat drifting along it, the lamb was innocence, unawareness, that kind of thing, atleast thats how i saw it, and i could be totally wrong and just making a total twat of myself but hey lifes to short :P
amness1a 2 years ago
where can i watch the movie
MyNailzStayDoneBitch 2 years ago
what song is that?
SanTokiLoL 2 years ago
why aviva accepted this situation of course mother s advises are not the only solution but her reaction is very execive no ?
i thing it s a scary film because you haven't any solution
ilozinap 2 years ago
Great film. Can't help think if Aviva's mother was unusually young - those scenes of her trying to convince her daughter to have an abortion would be that much more intense.
tellyisrubbish 2 years ago
this movie is effed up!
theangelnamedangela 2 years ago 3
tell me about it, i turned this movie off the minuet they showed the little girl get laid by a 40 year old man in the hotel.
FreakyRetroRetard 2 years ago
yeah, its so weird, yet me and my friend have rented it twice. theres like one more "sex" scene i think. its the weirdest, you should finish the movie though.
theangelnamedangela 2 years ago
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tellyisrubbish 2 years ago
everyone should check it out! crazy good :D
gklue 2 years ago
goofy director. goofy movie.
handsomevision 2 years ago
can someone please tell me what the second song is called?
"love is near.. love is here..love is here"
anatig 2 years ago
'Up on a cloud' by Nina Persson. Written by Nathan Larson.
oliverscott2007 2 years ago
That blind Albino is fucking scary lookin
Danklin24 2 years ago 2
What's this song called?
Paperflavouredchips 2 years ago
Ellen Barkin
TheRealJen 2 years ago
wtf is this shit about? weird.
travis1995 3 years ago 3
its a good movie
xMarilynLovex 3 years ago
Ellen Pompeo?
Grayzone 3 years ago
This movie looks fucked up. I want to see it!
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Based on this trailer, I would rather shoot myself in the balls with a 12 gauge and spend my recovery in San Quentin, that watch this movie.
punchthedog 3 years ago
Was Mark really a pedophile or was he wrongly accused of being a pedophile? And who accused him of being one?
constipatedclown 3 years ago
missy did and he wasn't a pedophile, she's just a little bitch like on welcome to the dollhouse. who tells lies.
Valena4right 3 years ago 13
I cannot stand her! When I watch WTTDH as a kid, I wanted her to get murdered
MoOnBaBy05 3 years ago
i havnt watch this movie i dont understand it can some1 explain.
shantar123 3 years ago
"Aviva" wants to have babies. She is played by 5 or 6 different actresses.
ieodksnw787 3 years ago
not to mention a dude
skippyproduction 3 years ago
yeah, I forgot. That was a nice touch, especially since it was after Aviva got her hysterectomy.
ieodksnw787 3 years ago 2
That was a neat touch symbolically.
HysteriaPictures 3 years ago
does anyone know where i could watch this online?
RebeccaMuthafucka 3 years ago
if you are a netflix subscriber, this movie is available to stream directly onto your computer for free.
ieodksnw787 3 years ago
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i think tom solondz might have been a pedophile all his movies have something to do with putting kids in a sexual position.
constipatedclown 3 years ago
Not to be a troll... but if you are going to call the filmmaker a pedophile... get his name right.
kevynfairchild 2 years ago 2
Mark is crazy old!
PrncessAE01 3 years ago
Whatever this is it looks disgusting.
ironclownfish 3 years ago
It was. Very disturbing movie.
spectrelives 3 years ago 2
This movie was so disturbing
ArtistaLuvNYC 3 years ago 4
not very disturbing but just deeply weird and tragic.
888yu2 3 years ago
This movie is a powerful drama. That it is shocking it is meant to be that way. Lets not forget this is a tragedy what we are witnessing here. We have a young girl whose life was destroyed by the choices her parents made for her. The only thing she wanted was a baby, and that was taken away from her. A society that is concerned only with the superficial. Of course we have Catharsis in the end as in all tragedies...And that is love
Frostflame29 3 years ago
is this sopposed to be a part 2 ...to welcome to the dollhouse? cuz thats what i heard
babybirl009 3 years ago
sort of a follow up...Aviva is the cousin of the late Dawn Wiener.
maziebunny 3 years ago
I remember seeing this moving... defiantely a "woah" kind of movie..but was well done ^^
MarilynLove90 3 years ago
i watched this, and at first the movie confused me, with the switching of the main characters. but after i got that all those people were supposed to be the same person, i got to focus on the fact that this movie was totally sad and depressing, although it was realistic
thefrayfan101 3 years ago 2
no just because it is a independant iflm does not mean its realistic this movie is far from realistic to normal ppl but we aren't really normal are we >?? the people who watch movies like this we can't really be defined as this... but anyway this movie isin't realistic maybe to some weird child hoes but no you may think its realistic because it isin't hollywood but really does killing an abortion doctor or doing it with a man at least 20 yrs older than you does that make it realistic?
POPHOPGOP 3 years ago
i really like this movie does any one no where i can find it online?
azesk11 3 years ago
I found it on mininova which searches Torrents...Such an incredible movie...he's got this ability to make you see the human "existential angst", how we try to connect with these packs of meat we call bodies and the closest we can come pales compared to what we need which is an emotional or spiritual connection.
ZarathustrasCrown 3 years ago
Netflix under independent or if u search it but if u haven't seen welcome to the doll house u may wanna see it since this is the sequel. welcome to the doll house's on this site in segments
Firewitch1207 3 years ago
this looks depressing...
totallyaffum 3 years ago
it is
MarilynLove90 3 years ago 2
My 2nd favorite Todd Solondz film.
AdrianG4 3 years ago 3
Dawn was going to be in the movie but Heather Matarazzo (actress who played Dawn) turned it down. That's why she was killed off in the beginning.
JReed1985 3 years ago
This movie truly is magical. People can sit there and say "this is just garbage and uses children in adult situations but that doesn't make it good blah blah blha" but this film truly is great. A intricate, and beautiful story line, a good life lesson, some dark humor, REAL people as actors. Wonder film, everyone should see it, it's simply an expierience that will make you think for days.
Uskyld 3 years ago 12
What is this song?
Grrremlin911 3 years ago
Not sure of the 2nd song but I know the first song (the lalala one) is called Aviva Pastoral by N.Larson, you can download it for free on his website.
Uskyld 3 years ago
... ijust saw this movie and was ttly disturbed by it.
bebepopsr 3 years ago
someone posted somewhere that huckleberry aviva was played by a boy, it's true. He's actor Will Denton. I saw the whole movie and was kinda wondering about that. I'm not sure if there is some kind of symbolic purpose of doing that but if not how bad would it suck if you were auditioning for the part and a male beat you to it.
suprcarol 4 years ago
I kno the girl who is on 0:29 she goes to my skool and is my firend isnt that AWSOME!!!
Blabersmakavitch 4 years ago
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You're lying for attention... Go fuck a dog, dipshit!
RegardeLaMer 4 years ago
No offence, but if you pause it she looks really creepy!
KN0MAAD 3 years ago
The other day I was on imdb and was kind of shocked to discovered that Huckleberry Aviva was played by a guy.
srb4887 4 years ago
Whoa... I'm seeing heavy David Lynch influence in this film.
staphinfection 4 years ago
Who else was disturbed by this movie?
FADEproductions 4 years ago 3
I was.
MissNayNay 2 years ago
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u know wat i watched this film wen i was lean and it was mad to watch..its serious tho u have to do it
nicolakaiser 4 years ago
what the fuck?
*i watched this film wen i was lean and it was mad to watch*
i dont even think thats english.
go back to grammar school please
surfercutie2008 4 years ago 3
I didnt get to see the whole movie, and my sound wasnt working and there were no subtitles. so basically i had to make the story up for myself. From what ive seen it was confusing and highly strange.
But i'd love to see the whole film. I have a feeling this is one of those films everyone has seen.
Anyone know where i can watch it ?
LittleMiss2000 4 years ago
What's the second song called and who's it by?
Not the 'Lala' song or 'Lullaby' or 'Aviva Pastoral' or whatever you want to call it [with the girl singing 'la la la la laaa la la la' over a score of notes] but the second one.
92RedRevolver 4 years ago
It's sad Dawn died in this film, if I was an angel I'd kiss her on the head and show her the way to heaven. R.I.P Dawn you deserved a better life.
JReed1985 4 years ago
This is the most fucked up movie I've ever seen. And I've seen some disturbing shit.
duranchic 4 years ago
You obviously haven't seen enough. I'd say I Spit On Your Grave or Cannibal Holocaust are both way more fucked up.
srb4887 4 years ago
oh really? watch oldboy.
mashaz 3 years ago
This is WAY, WAY more depressing than Oldboy...to be honest, I found the ending of Oldboy almost positive...After all his hell he just wants to forget, and he does...obviously Oldboy has some REAL disturbing parts about it, but I found this one far more depressing and such in the long run...
ZarathustrasCrown 3 years ago 2
00:29 seconds scared the shit outta me what the hell is that
JeckaProductions 4 years ago 2
hahahah jecka. is that girl at 29 seconds albino?
exoticbrunette06 3 years ago
i loved making this movie i was in it,, it wass cool to see it be put together
cdburnnn3r 4 years ago
as twisted as this movie was,its was nice to see something different,im sick of the movies that come out nowadays.this movie was sad yet so amazing.
VicEmber 4 years ago 2
This was the weirdest movie I've ever seen. I hadn't read the summary of it before I watched it, so I didn't know the same girl was played by different actresses. So I was like wtf is going on? It was twisted and funny though. And twisted.
yesterdaydream 4 years ago
umm excuse me i was in this movieeeee
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girls in the movie r ugly
IrwinVDaniel 4 years ago
it's about time.
Tired of seeing gorgeous, cookie-cutter, boring twits in movies.
Shamborn 4 years ago 3
you must be gay then shamborn
IrwinVDaniel 4 years ago
I'm gay? You call yourself "Daniel"!!!
Hey "Daniel!" How are you "Daniel?"
Just call yourself "Danielle," everyone else does.
Shamborn 4 years ago
ok, your a fucking retard
IrwinVDaniel 4 years ago
Name: Daniel
Age: 17
Hey Daniel, your mommy's calling you! Stop jerking off to AC/DC, Daniel, and go to bed!
Shamborn 4 years ago
god, you suck at comebacks. they don't even make sense
IrwinVDaniel 4 years ago 3
How is Daniel a name for homosexuals? How did this discussion board get on the topic of homosexuality? Damn, Mama Sunshine would be sad to hear this :)!
RegardeLaMer 4 years ago
You're terrible. Beauty comes from within.
petewentzisminebitch 4 years ago 6
Kinda like you Mom, right?
duranchic 4 years ago
ouch that hurts. are you mad because i don't like pale flat child whores...you probably look like that or else you wouldn't of said that.
IrwinVDaniel 4 years ago
Yup, I confess, thats me in the movie. I look just like that.
duranchic 4 years ago
ok, that's settled
IrwinVDaniel 4 years ago
Not all girls are beautiful in the "hollywood" definition. I think any of the girls in this are ugly though.
Even if they were, it doesn't make this film suck. Looks don't make a good movie.
AnniexCostello 3 years ago 18
@AnniexCostello actually looks can make a movie. by using average people it makes it feel more real. if cameron diaz was the star of this movie it wouldnt make any sense & no one would like it. & not just because shes a bad actress and probably retarded.
resisthexcept 1 year ago
@resisthexcept You do have a point but I think that writing, acting, directing, lighting, and score are more important when it comes to quality. A certain kind of look can assist a part greatly but if the actor is doing a horrible job, the role will have much less of an impact on the audience or the role will be ruined all together. It won't matter about how much he or she looks the part.
AnniexCostello 1 year ago
What's the song playing from the middle to the end?
lizziebabes90 4 years ago
This song was specifically created for Solondz' film. "Up on the Clouds" was made for Palindromes as well as the "La La Song."
RegardeLaMer 4 years ago
That movie confused the hell out of me the first time I saw it.
inawhiteroom456 4 years ago
You're an idiot, it's not that complicated!
RegardeLaMer 4 years ago
Yes, but I was about 12 or so when I saw it. Im not saying it wasnt a good movie, I just didnt fully understand it at the time.
inawhiteroom456 4 years ago
What kind of parent lets their kid watch ANY Solondz movie? Seriously...
RegardeLaMer 4 years ago
My friend's. lol
inawhiteroom456 4 years ago
At least you got to see it :)! I would watch it again, if I were you... It's a pretty good movie, it's really pretty straight-forward, too. Be advised, this movie surpassed the NC-17 rating, so...
RegardeLaMer 4 years ago
Maybe ones who don't underestimate the maturity of their children... or don't care.
srb4887 4 years ago
So you're 15 now?
92RedRevolver 4 years ago
nope I just had a Bday :] ...but I'm not 16 either lol
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vivienegolferwifebw 4 years ago
another uplifting film by Todd Solondz. the man
zantron 4 years ago
I think I am in love with Todd Solondz <3!
RegardeLaMer 4 years ago 2