The Umar Johnson Radio Talk-Show: Unity amongst black women: Polygamy pt. 2

[MoorishScrillah666]

Mos Brothas r terrible explaining benefits of polygamy, just sounds like we runnin game. Mos Sistas prefer monogamy,but mere thought of u wit anothr woman will drive her to anothr man,at least to deal with the feelin of loss. But there will always be more women in nature ALL EGGS r female.From Economic standpoint(re childbirth,civilization growth etc)Sistas MAY realize 1 day sharing her life(nonsexual)with anther woman wit 1 Man as backbone will make life easier,purely from a numbers standpoint

[KeetWeet]

this is soooooo nasty i hear what he is saying i disagree but on medical side point it's unhealthy to be passing fluids around i wouldn't want another womans bacteria ewwww smh & on the spiritural side of it why is the BIBLE wrong to "black men" except when it comes to when they had more than one wife w/o getting understanding why it was so...? j/s

[MoorenaEl]

Unbelievable. I'm more than SICK of hearing this male dominant so called conscious movement. There is polygamy AND polygyny. If you are going to consider 1, than consider both. Clearly bro dr. Umar was disgusted w a woman being preg by another man. As disgusted as he is abt that, so as women are abt sharing bodily fluids w mult other wmn. PLUS, wmn r biologically & sexually dominant...man has to be taught how to handle more than 1 woman. If a woman has to share her man, theres NO WAY she w

[ImNotRacistImBias]

I prefer polyamory - both men and women can have multiple partners. I'm not going to be a notch on a man's belt of wives, I see that as benefiting men. I want variety also. A woman getting pregnant has nothing to with anything. If there are multiple male spouses then each man can still care for his own children if the issue is about paternity. It is always funny to hear men advocate polygamy in their favor but us women have no right to the same thing because in their minds men are so special.

[UnityGhost]

Christians are hypocrites, Most the men in the bible had more then one wife... Christian talk against there own book

[etemuru]

Nyeisha said it right. Men can't handle polygamy ----at least Black American men can't handle it. They are immature, greedy, and selfish most times. I understand why we have to do it. And for us as black women, it would be so hard for our egos to accept another woman's smile after sex w our man. I'm holding out my final vote until I go to Nigeria, hang out with my father ---and meet his TWO wives and see how they make it work. lol whew!

[B7acKLioN]

@etemuru are you stupid are dumb you said black men can't handle more than one wfe lmao....i am a man an if anyman was raised in america, we are basically the fuckin same...a white,mexican,asian man will dawg you just like the black man would...plz do not seperate us,,,,

[etemuru]

@B7acKLioN what? I don't recall writing that. I just said I think black women should consider dating other "races" & cultures. Maybe you took that out of context...

[etemuru]

Hey Dr. Umar said that Hispanics are spanish speaking africans basically, so those 3 other women who need a husband to hold them and make babies need to get their morena butts and get with the hispanic brother. there are PLENTY of them. and Brazilians and Haitians and gadzooks so many Nigerians it's crazy. That shortage mentality is not real i don't think. We as black women need to expand --not necessarily date white, although I have done that, but definitely EXPAND our dating borders.

[ConciousSonOFMan]

doesnt she know Moises had like 12 wives

[GoddessIsIs999]

@BedRoomGangster 3 weeks ago-Thank you much and all of the others who are critically thinking on this issue. The Black afrikan females was the first Divine teacher on/in earth. Yes, most Black Afrikan females are out of their Divine Original right mind-set. Yes some brothers are out of their original natural mind-set, but once the Black Afrikan females return to her original right mind, she will be able to teach the black man and children

[stardelorian]

the thing is..a lot of women will literally stand in line to have sex with idiots like lil wayne or 50 cent...so it is natural for women do to the act polygamy....

[stardelorian]

cheri is SO pissed about polygamy...she would SPAZZZZ out if her husband cheated on her.....theres technically nothing wrong polygamy...and im a man saying this who wouldnt do polygamy lol....

[BedRoomGangster]

Most women and men are not prepare to make the necessary sacrifice to save the race. What difference dose it makes to have 10.000.000.000 confused or 100 good thinking black people on this earth?

We are the number one baby killing machine ever to walk this planet. We (men and women) flush babies down the toilets with no pain. We even see it as a relief.

We are now thinking machine with souls fill with hate of destructive magnitude hiding behind religious believes and what so ever. what a  pity.

[TheLaviezeb]

What's wrong w/ those lonely sistas stepping outside of their race? If there are no avaliable black men, get a Rican, Asian, White, or whatever...men do it all the time.

[bantuwarior]

she said she believe in the word of the bible. she needs to reopen the bible because nearly all prophets in the bible are polygam and she needs to stop being so emotional because Polygamy isn't mainly about sex. Polygamy isn't Polyginy. what the hell?

[bigamble]

The discussion of polygamy is not new to even this generation. She really did not answer his question about her objection to polygamy based on religion, nor for a discussion of logic about how to take care of Black people. She is talking about "sins" but not willing to logically discuss the information. She appears to have been hurt by a close male relative or lover who was "adulterer". Like Dr. Umar said, "We can act like it ain't going on but it is". Woman to woman was the song .

[americangangster86]

Shut Up Woman. Im wondering about what your husband is dealing with at home!

[SouthParkDEA]

holy shit let him speak

[ap19sehkmet]

Good point, that would be a major factor in polygynous marriages because it is now without it, we would have to be very careful about ourselves and partners. I believe only in necessity, to save the race. If we were to ever break off into our own nation, we all know there would be a high disproportion of women to men

[BIGWHIT07]

What about diseases..?

[ap19sehkmet]

Polygyny should only be practiced in necessity by mature BM and BW to save the race in numbers, I agree with the woman in the red shirt about the Pan-African form, where mature BW form Sisterhoods and make the rules (just for balance), but in this capitalist society most BM wont be able to maintain multiple wives and children. A lot of BM have a hard time keeping themselves above water, we would need to break off into our own nation

[WombMansSong]

@vandella223 HA

[ONU34]

@Rozyonnie why?

[sexycammy112]

Defacto polygamy..

[tHE1iAm38]

She's a christian and wearing a Ankh!!!!! SMDH!!!!!

[kingflipp]

dr. johnson since she is a christian ask her how many wives abraham, king david, king solomon and a host of other characters in the bible had...peace...pfg4life

[WombMansSong]

@kingflipp speak on dat!

[cakes101ful]

STOP RIGHT NOW! Dr Umar Johnson your just not right about this one its not okay to be with the children waiting for your parter to come home at night ! its not okay to have other children by another women when you have pledge your love and comment to your parter SEE THATS WHY I LIKE Mr X because he didnt stand for this way of living you know better or do you!

[marucsj2]

She is not listening at all and have not heard anything this brother have stated...

[mooncooninc83]

GOD?! Black folks who are "conscious" who still follow Christianity are totally questionable. 

[ONU34]

@mooncooninc83 why, what is your reason for saying that, they are "questionable" 

[unpolitical]

@mooncooninc83 They are pseudo conscious...

[americangangster86]

@mooncooninc83 I Agree!

[bigamble]

@mooncooninc83: I get what you are saying. I am a Christian. Just curious about how you would finish that thought. "Questionable" regarding what?

[mooncooninc83]

@bigamble My reasons for considering Black ppl who profess to be for dismantling the global system of racism/White supremacy yet who are still practicing a religion, like Christianity, that was founded upon and promotes racism/White supremacy, as "questionable", is because they're essentially trying to serve two masters. And thus, their loyalties are divided.

[etemuru]

@mooncooninc83 why? How did white men make polygamy a sin?

[TheTruthwillrise]

@mooncooninc83 I agree! The two seemingly are like oil and water. 

[unpolitical]

This is a prime example of the lack of sisterhood within our community. It's absolutely incredible how Black baby's mamas can come together in unity to punish a worthless, irresponsible, sperm doning Black male for child support yet these same Black women will not share a responsible good brother even though Black women outnumber Black men. The emphasis is ALWAYS on how the man is getting over because of sexual gratification. These sisters could less about Black survival.

[WombMansSong]

@unpolitical So TRUE! What she is saying is bump my sisters. I got mine, now you get yours.

Selfish spirits cannot build. They can only take!

[cocoaj13]

POLYGAMY SHOULD BE MEANT FOR WELL EDUCATED MEN. EXAMPLE, IF A MAN HAVE FIVE WIVES, AND EACH WIFE HAVE GIVEN BERTHS TO FIVE CHILDREN, WHICH MEAN...THERE IS TWENTY FIVE CHILDREN HAVE TO BE SUPPORTED BY THAT ONE FATHER. NOW, IF THIS MAN IS UNEDUCATED, OR LACKING THE SKILLS TO GENERATE ENOUGH INCOME TO SUPPORT HIS HUGE FAMILY, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO HIS FAMILY?

[GodOfThaDead]

I don't agree with polygamy but what the Dr. is saying should be looked at more in terms of the regulation or lack of there of and destroyed and dysfunctional homes.

[wallyworld776]

This woman's argument is totally filled with emotion, that is why she is shouting and talking over Umar...She feels with all her degrees that she is so smart, and went through those classes and seeing very few black men...Umar schooled her with simple logic. Her whole argument was based on not allowing her husband to do it, but it's about the whole black civilization, and not just your home.

[GoddessIsIs999]

To all of you who agree on A balance Divine Polygamy, I salute and bow to you all because you are free Critical Thinkers, and know what Divine Time it is.

[lionessqueen9]

A good read for research on this topic is "We want for our sisters what we want for ourselves" by: Dr. Patricia Dixon.

[lionessqueen9]

Plz sistahs look @ the bigger picture, take sex out ya mind and do ya research 2 alteast get a better understanding about it before u so quick 2 dismiss it. Monogamy is a european concept. Yeah they practiced it, but they also had prostitutes or gay partners on the side. Pretty much how its practiced now.

[lionessqueen9]

Polygyny can, has, does, and WILL work when done in balance. It is SOLELY matriarchal. It promotes sisterhood amongst black women as opposed 2 us beefin over the same dude, fightin in the street or whatever. Its actually a conscious minded move. All involved must be on the same page, diet, lifestyle, etc. And hv a common goal.

[freedchild23]

If there were the divine number of 1 billion 8 million African people inhabiting the earth like its suppose be, each woman and each man would have 1 partner 1 soulmate. Polygyny is a solution the problems that we are facing in this day and age i.e war, famine, imprisonment, homosexuality, and just straight death of our black men as a high. I agree it should be done to help our situation now, I don't think it needs to be that way forever. Many brothas are not mature enough

[prettyblackwomen1]

@freedchild23

I 100% agree... If intelligent conscious mature black people do this and produce several healthy children we can save the african americans from going extinct.

this need to happen like yesterday.

[shemika341]

I agree w/the woman. No reason for polygamy but 1 male economically exploiting a bunch of bw &pleasing none. &he will still be creeping w/whomever he wants. &his 'wives' w/be desperate &fighting over that one man who cant satisfy them sexually anyway &possibly be desperate enough to come on to ec other. Polygamy is about exploit &control of bw by bi &homo bm to make them into slaves. Nothing but a gov sponsored moral front for their pimps to produce a control pop of blk slaves to service whites.

[rickeyt423]

Actually, there's no scripture in the Bible that speaks against polygamy.

[KINGRODP]

@rickeyt423 1st Corinthians 7:2 says let every man have his own WIFE (singular..not PLURAL) and every wife have her own husband (singular..not PLURAL)

1st Corinthian 6:9 tells us that adulterers WILL NOT INHERIT the Kingdom of GOD

You can name all these great men from the old testament that had more than one wife...BUT..Jesus has the LAST say on everything.

[GoddessIsIs999]

@maxilla. I am one with you. Free from the religious BS is a True testimony. I salute and bow to you for freeing your Mind Beloved maxilla.

[prettyblackwomen1]

polygamy is about survival 

[Hawada]

@prettyblackwomen1 THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU

[GoddessIsIs999]

Beloved Umar, Throughout my true Spiritual Journey, I have learned that we cannot reason with religious people. They do not use logic and reasoning. DR: Ray Hagin:When we deny we have been hook winked, bamboozled, and lied to, we are dangerous people, and the sister lives in denial.

[GoddessIsIs999]

Beloved Mighty warrior Umar, I salute and bow to all you do and all you have shared on any subject is correct.This sister is european religiously conditioned and programmed. which means out of her Natural mind-set. Her comments are coming from a selfish prospective. As for faith. Faith means non thinker. Believe is the profane ego. The ego will not allow people to see beyond their (5) senses and that is a mental illness.

[maxilla100]

@GoddessIsIs999 I couldnt agree more!! phil valentine ray hagin and bro alim bey woke me up!! i was once caught up in religion but my inner spiritual ancestors drove me to search for 'moore' lol n i did. now im free from the religious bullshit that Europeans fed to us africans. i can see the true spiritual god for the first time.

[GoddessIsIs999]

Part two

Beloved Mighty Warrior, Sun Star, Bro Star Umar: From the humble and one of the first Black Afrikan teachers on/in earth, whose mission is to restore the Black Afrikan family back to its Once Divine Original way of being, BY ANY/ALL MEANS Necessary, and Divine Polygamy is vital and essential in the Black Afrikan family life right now. Bro Star Umar, I am more than 100 percent with you.

[benyehudaful]

maqn we r still divided polgamy is nothing new the did pratice polgamy in the bible um di u forget naw i forgot they got u reading only 1 half of the bible abraham had 2 wives and the rest of them from there this nothin new

[gritstube]

@supervirtuouswoman, we act like dogs caus women rather it...jump,bark n beg...ur knight in shinning armor* a shakespeare story of renaissance life that influences many women of today,shakespeare influenced by romans "founders of christianity n monogamy" but also very fund of orgies* women had the choice between the dog or king so dont get mad when ur dog begs others...

[wella43]

Not every women needs to be married.

[YOBLACKMOMA]

Umar are you of the polygamist decision due to your faith? Being you are Umar Abdullah an Arab tradition.Please stop spreading mysoginst bullsh*t!

[omar505]

As a black man I must say I am firmly against polygamy. If so many of our brothas knew how to take care of the one woman and one child they allready have, then there could at least be a 2 sided argument. But with all of the fatherless children running the streets, how Is a man going to take care of 3 women and their kids if he wont take care of 1? Not to mention the rates of AIDS in the black community. Not just in America, but in Africa too.

[ddenniscoleman3]

@omar505 AIDS is a man-made disease but I see your point on the sanitary issues in regards to the spread of STDs.

[supervirtuouswoman]

I understand both parties. She does not want to share her husband with another woman, but she might be sharing him anyway without her knowing it due to the man's dogmatic nature. I also can understand that every woman wants a good man, and it is not enough men to go around due to this curse that is upon us. I would not mind sharing my man, but only if I can be the first wife. I would treat my sister wife with kindness and welcome her with loving arms, only if we can get along very well.