I am fine with mystery and ambiguity, but this just doesn't give enough to really speculate about what happened. I really enjoyed the movie but I wish there was an ending that didn't wrap everything up but still left some intrigue.
i think i'm the rare movie-goer that would've appreciated that ending. it leaves the concept of the "outer" world to the viewer's imagination. also, i like the conflicted expression on bierko's face as he realizes where he is.
I'd have thought this ending to be better if only they showed what they were seeing outside the window. Humans are curious by nature and withholding this information works against the filmmakers more than it helps. Only a few oddballs will appreciate the "mystery" nonsense aspect that this ending attempts to portray.
I can understand why they changed the ending. I much prefer the retro future office look, to the future house look though. If only they showed outside the window this this ending.
This ending sucks. Why? It makes no sense. The baddie jacked himself in to kick everyone's ass in the simulation, right? He jacked himself in. He couldn't have been in some kind of prison room during all that time.
Or what, Douglas just couldn't find the button? Whatever.
Nice, interesting, original movie. Craig Bierko was wonderful. The 90's had so many overlooked & underrated SCI-FI films - this one, FutureSport, The Time Shifters, Virtuosity, Tha Lawnmower Man, Alien 3, Space Truckers, Strange Days, The Arrival, Mimic, The Apocalypse (1997), Virus, RoboCop 2, Them, Body Snatchers, eXistenZ, Sphere, Judge Dredd, Demolition Man, Anaconda, The Shadow Men, Dark City etc
This ending is a lot more consistent with the rest of the film. That expression of joy, wonder, sequeing into horror leaves a lot more ambiguity. Imagine that Ashton, a person from the 1930s is utterly unable to comprehend the world of 1999. We as the audience should be in the same position
The original ending was too well wrapped up and doesn't address any of the themes the movie had been running with. This ending is more ambiguous, it challenges the viewer, and is more plausible (I mean c'mon LA in 2024 looking like that?). We don't know what kind of world he steps into, and we're not supposed to know.
@lonelywalker is it possible that what we are observing here is the transference of conscience from one body into another. Whether real or not, will these be feasable if not desirable?
In my opionion even that is Reality...maybe it doesn't exist or maybe it's very different from what we think. Great mistic endind! It's a pity it's not the official...
I couldn't stand the stainless steel cgi houses in the original ending. This one was better, allthough I was hoping it would show that they had colonized other planets, and were looking out into a totally strange place of the universe, orbiting Pandora or something. Ending
The movie had potential for it being so GOOD, but it fails miserable because of bad direction, soap opera dialogue, and acting at the level of chris klein in the legend of chun-li.
@Carloswfi I couldn't agree more. I don't wish to sound rude but It does rather seem that Craig Bierko and Vincent D'onfrio both repeatedly pick absolute turkeys to star in. Please can someone enlighten me as to whether or not either of them have ever been in anything that actually made its money back?
Supposedly challenging ending are conventional and very tiresome. In truth they are indulgent masturbation, no more, that it takes a particularly bourgeois mindset to admire. Thank god they ripped this garbage right out.
Maybe they are in a "box", but this ending is open... very very interesting and mysterious due to Douglas face when ligth goes out and THE END appears. Thanks for sharing with us this alternative for our guidance about classic 13th Floor!
It was a very oblique film reference to the movie by Werner Herzog "Even Dwarfs Had To Start Small" and a similar prop box that had me laughing outloud in the theater when I first saw it.
(Specifically, a shoebox with dead beetles in it, all gussied up in tiny wedding dresses and groom outfits, etc.)
Unimaginative because it wasn't a "mainstream, cookie-cutter" ending? This denouement was interesting. The sounds of the waves, the cawing of the birds and the slight laughter of the children....and we still don't know what he is seeing. It engages the mind. I'm sorry, I'm fed up with Hollywood having to spoon-fed everything to us. Everything has to be explained--that would explain Lucas' Star Wars prequels; everything has to be shown. This ending works just as well.
I feel that the central question and theme of the movie was to explore what is reality. Are experience and perception of experience one and the same or different? The ending here is more enigmatic and mysterious, agreed. The one they put in the movie though drives home the central point. Especially with the last frame turning off the movie like an old fashioned TV screen.
My final verdict: good to see both but I'm glad they picked the ending they did. It brings home the point more intimitely.
Great ending. I always assumed the cut ending would have been downbeat (using the small bit of footage that was in the preview), but this is great, still somewhat upbeat, enigmatic and fits with the rest of the movie. I'm fine with the "happy ending," but this makes it that much better.
when i saw this film i remember he woke up in the living room of a house and there were his children and he was married with the girl.out of the house was a beach and the father of the girl and it was new york in the future.
This ending doesn't seem much different, really to the theatrical ending, except that instead of a big blank room it's a house, that's the only real difference.
In the ending that I remember there was a guy in a dark room in a chair who has just come back from the third universe(the last one that was shown). And you were left with the creepy feeling that there is actually a world on top of the one, from where the blond chick comes from and probably another one on top of that and so on and so on. You are left guessing the exact number of the universes. What happened to that ending?
This ending is far superior, they should have left it! I love the the film but always felt that this ending was cheesy. This one is way better and more edgy.
So he manifested in this empty room at the beach out of thin air. I'm not against cliffhanger endings but this is simple and plain bullshit. We already KNOW that if a simulation could be run by a parental simulation, there's no way of ever knowing you've reached the real world if something like that would even exist. The regular endings provides more information, drives some plotlines home which should be driven home. Well, just my two cents.
Interesting ending, i like it... but i think the most people would not perceive it sufficiently... that's why the filmmakers leave an actual "happy-end"-ending))
Oh, wow! I'm a huge fan of THE 13TH FLOOR ever since it first came out. Today was the first time I'd seen this alternate ending. I must say, it's great! I love the idea of we the viewers never seeing the actual future, only seeing it reflected in the eyes and face of Doug. And that final look of amazement, which morphs into sadness. Wow. Love it.
A superior ending. Darker, ambiguous, much more thought-provoking. The current ending is a prettified cop-out. The filmmaker should have stuck to his original vision.
go with this one. with this ending- intriguing. mysterious. that leaves us with sounds of Nature- and a man's eyes reflecting ? what.. ? wonder? fear? disbelief? horror? happiness?
like I said.. I like this ending!
thank you, "Lonelywalker". I'm new to YouTube. wasn't aware there was an alternate ending to this film. and want to thank you for posting it!
hmm.. I may be expressing the unpopular opinion.. but I like this ending!
if you are going to grapple with the concept of "R"eality.. of the meaning of "human" vs creations of the (human) imagination.. if you are going to tackle the implications of technology- of virtual vs visceral experience--
If this film was released today with this ending, i believe the test audiences would've preferred this one - thought provoking and haunting
maxwesty 3 months ago
I am fine with mystery and ambiguity, but this just doesn't give enough to really speculate about what happened. I really enjoyed the movie but I wish there was an ending that didn't wrap everything up but still left some intrigue.
sharkisland89 4 months ago
i think i'm the rare movie-goer that would've appreciated that ending. it leaves the concept of the "outer" world to the viewer's imagination. also, i like the conflicted expression on bierko's face as he realizes where he is.
ParaChuba 4 months ago
I'd have thought this ending to be better if only they showed what they were seeing outside the window. Humans are curious by nature and withholding this information works against the filmmakers more than it helps. Only a few oddballs will appreciate the "mystery" nonsense aspect that this ending attempts to portray.
I can understand why they changed the ending. I much prefer the retro future office look, to the future house look though. If only they showed outside the window this this ending.
Lance241151 5 months ago
I'm desperately looking for a high quality version of this. Anyone know where I can find it?
VadymZbarash 6 months ago
This ending sucks. Why? It makes no sense. The baddie jacked himself in to kick everyone's ass in the simulation, right? He jacked himself in. He couldn't have been in some kind of prison room during all that time.
Or what, Douglas just couldn't find the button? Whatever.
twooffour 7 months ago
@twooffour button? Jane opened the window by GLANCING at it. Tells you something about this future, doesn't it?
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Nice, interesting, original movie. Craig Bierko was wonderful. The 90's had so many overlooked & underrated SCI-FI films - this one, FutureSport, The Time Shifters, Virtuosity, Tha Lawnmower Man, Alien 3, Space Truckers, Strange Days, The Arrival, Mimic, The Apocalypse (1997), Virus, RoboCop 2, Them, Body Snatchers, eXistenZ, Sphere, Judge Dredd, Demolition Man, Anaconda, The Shadow Men, Dark City etc
Magnolia296 7 months ago
it's about reality and not reality - maybe we are part of a computer simulation...
...just think about it!
hinze0105 10 months ago
This ending is a lot more consistent with the rest of the film. That expression of joy, wonder, sequeing into horror leaves a lot more ambiguity. Imagine that Ashton, a person from the 1930s is utterly unable to comprehend the world of 1999. We as the audience should be in the same position
Fathomx1 11 months ago
The original ending was too well wrapped up and doesn't address any of the themes the movie had been running with. This ending is more ambiguous, it challenges the viewer, and is more plausible (I mean c'mon LA in 2024 looking like that?). We don't know what kind of world he steps into, and we're not supposed to know.
Fathomx1 11 months ago
@lonelywalker is it possible that what we are observing here is the transference of conscience from one body into another. Whether real or not, will these be feasable if not desirable?
Dakers11 1 year ago
In my opionion even that is Reality...maybe it doesn't exist or maybe it's very different from what we think. Great mistic endind! It's a pity it's not the official...
SydneyMeteh 1 year ago
they were looking at ur dads peepee
coffeeANDtea1234 1 year ago
not impressed. I liked the other one which had Mol's pookies.
MaikUniversum 1 year ago
o nvm
rap33r100 1 year ago
wat the!?! y did i get a diferrent ending
rap33r100 1 year ago
I couldn't stand the stainless steel cgi houses in the original ending. This one was better, allthough I was hoping it would show that they had colonized other planets, and were looking out into a totally strange place of the universe, orbiting Pandora or something. Ending
allooo 1 year ago
The movie had potential for it being so GOOD, but it fails miserable because of bad direction, soap opera dialogue, and acting at the level of chris klein in the legend of chun-li.
Carloswfi 1 year ago
@Carloswfi I couldn't agree more. I don't wish to sound rude but It does rather seem that Craig Bierko and Vincent D'onfrio both repeatedly pick absolute turkeys to star in. Please can someone enlighten me as to whether or not either of them have ever been in anything that actually made its money back?
cropcircle82 1 year ago
@Carloswfi voicing ur nerdy nolife opinion as fact. disgusting keyboard hermit
leanuue 1 year ago
Supposedly challenging ending are conventional and very tiresome. In truth they are indulgent masturbation, no more, that it takes a particularly bourgeois mindset to admire. Thank god they ripped this garbage right out.
arsoys 1 year ago
I like this ending better. The ending in the movie was so contrived and so picture perfect it felt fake. I remember saying "Oh, come on".
okidoll 1 year ago
Maybe they are in a "box", but this ending is open... very very interesting and mysterious due to Douglas face when ligth goes out and THE END appears. Thanks for sharing with us this alternative for our guidance about classic 13th Floor!
EduarquiRJ 2 years ago 2
The original end is much better, was a good choice
thebob500 2 years ago
Turgid, murky, slow, dull and unimaginative.
Thank God they scapped this tripe and used the brighter, more visually stimulating ending they did.
This ending looks about as thrilling a reality as the inside of a a dirty shoebox filled with dead beetles.
They chose right.
voidforpurpose 2 years ago 3
I don't know, man. A dirty shoebox full of dead beetles can be highly entertaining if used correctly.
jailarson 2 years ago 2
I agree.
It was a very oblique film reference to the movie by Werner Herzog "Even Dwarfs Had To Start Small" and a similar prop box that had me laughing outloud in the theater when I first saw it.
(Specifically, a shoebox with dead beetles in it, all gussied up in tiny wedding dresses and groom outfits, etc.)
Worth a watching.
voidforpurpose 2 years ago 2
Oh. I thought it was just some random, entertaining, disturbingly visual analogy. I will investigate further. Sounds like a right proper "WTF".
jailarson 2 years ago
Unimaginative because it wasn't a "mainstream, cookie-cutter" ending? This denouement was interesting. The sounds of the waves, the cawing of the birds and the slight laughter of the children....and we still don't know what he is seeing. It engages the mind. I'm sorry, I'm fed up with Hollywood having to spoon-fed everything to us. Everything has to be explained--that would explain Lucas' Star Wars prequels; everything has to be shown. This ending works just as well.
clericjack 2 years ago
Altough almost everyone says that this ending is bad I think it is slightly better than what we got.
It would be perfect if the place in the ending wouldn't have been weird room. That just is too weird.
If he would have been trapped while transferring to the real world or smth then it would be OK.
But what the hell is the meaning of that room?
murderever 2 years ago
Exactly...it makes you THINK! It engages the imagination.
clericjack 2 years ago
I'll have to watch this movie again, 'cause I don't get what's going on here or what they're staring at.
fegu 2 years ago
Where's can I get the dvd with this alternative ending?
BigglesBast09 2 years ago
@BigglesBast09 i would like to know that too lol
AlternateAlternative 8 months ago
I feel that the central question and theme of the movie was to explore what is reality. Are experience and perception of experience one and the same or different? The ending here is more enigmatic and mysterious, agreed. The one they put in the movie though drives home the central point. Especially with the last frame turning off the movie like an old fashioned TV screen.
My final verdict: good to see both but I'm glad they picked the ending they did. It brings home the point more intimitely.
LogicHead 3 years ago 6
this ending is similar but there isn't the father and douglas's face is very strangebefore the end. anyway i prefer the other ending.
ddmpacaa 3 years ago 2
Great ending. I always assumed the cut ending would have been downbeat (using the small bit of footage that was in the preview), but this is great, still somewhat upbeat, enigmatic and fits with the rest of the movie. I'm fine with the "happy ending," but this makes it that much better.
MarcDom7 3 years ago
when i saw this film i remember he woke up in the living room of a house and there were his children and he was married with the girl.out of the house was a beach and the father of the girl and it was new york in the future.
flopotof 3 years ago
This New York of the future, is it really 'reality'? It could also be a computer program, because an old fashioned TV turns off the movie...
CoolDojo9000 2 years ago
That white room is Windows` recycle bin.
bloodawn5 3 years ago 3
This ending doesn't seem much different, really to the theatrical ending, except that instead of a big blank room it's a house, that's the only real difference.
sictv13 3 years ago
Interesting but I´m glad it was cut.
MuscleeStud 3 years ago
In the ending that I remember there was a guy in a dark room in a chair who has just come back from the third universe(the last one that was shown). And you were left with the creepy feeling that there is actually a world on top of the one, from where the blond chick comes from and probably another one on top of that and so on and so on. You are left guessing the exact number of the universes. What happened to that ending?
gandalf117 3 years ago
hei, when I watched this movie back in 1999 I remember that it ended in a totally different way than this ending and the other ending I've seen!
gandalf117 3 years ago
This ending is far superior, they should have left it! I love the the film but always felt that this ending was cheesy. This one is way better and more edgy.
skyraider79 3 years ago
So he manifested in this empty room at the beach out of thin air. I'm not against cliffhanger endings but this is simple and plain bullshit. We already KNOW that if a simulation could be run by a parental simulation, there's no way of ever knowing you've reached the real world if something like that would even exist. The regular endings provides more information, drives some plotlines home which should be driven home. Well, just my two cents.
doublevandike 4 years ago 2
Why is he wake in this room? What kind of room is that? This Ending make too many questions.... the other one is better then this one.
Sueperkeks 4 years ago
that's exactly why some people like this one more, because it raises many questions and is more enigmatic ;)
gandalf117 3 years ago
if this ending was left in the final release, the reviews would've been twice as positive...this is the REAL ending...now the movie is perfect...
maxwesty 4 years ago
Can you buy the dvd with this alternative ending as assumed it would be on the special edition regional 1?
BigglesBast09 4 years ago
Interesting ending, i like it... but i think the most people would not perceive it sufficiently... that's why the filmmakers leave an actual "happy-end"-ending))
thanks for video
drake5000000 4 years ago
Oh, wow! I'm a huge fan of THE 13TH FLOOR ever since it first came out. Today was the first time I'd seen this alternate ending. I must say, it's great! I love the idea of we the viewers never seeing the actual future, only seeing it reflected in the eyes and face of Doug. And that final look of amazement, which morphs into sadness. Wow. Love it.
billfenner1967 4 years ago 3
If you want a film that ignored the studio's request to cop out and ditch an unbelievable ending like this, watch Cube.
cubezero1 4 years ago 2
A superior ending. Darker, ambiguous, much more thought-provoking. The current ending is a prettified cop-out. The filmmaker should have stuck to his original vision.
PoetryMouth 4 years ago 3
(Comment Part 2.. !)
why not go all the way?
go with this one. with this ending- intriguing. mysterious. that leaves us with sounds of Nature- and a man's eyes reflecting ? what.. ? wonder? fear? disbelief? horror? happiness?
like I said.. I like this ending!
thank you, "Lonelywalker". I'm new to YouTube. wasn't aware there was an alternate ending to this film. and want to thank you for posting it!
ldeliane 4 years ago 10
hmm.. I may be expressing the unpopular opinion.. but I like this ending!
if you are going to grapple with the concept of "R"eality.. of the meaning of "human" vs creations of the (human) imagination.. if you are going to tackle the implications of technology- of virtual vs visceral experience--
then why not go all the way?!
ldeliane 4 years ago 4
Okay...I'm glad they cut that from the movie.
Starbits7 5 years ago
so.. what the heck were they looking at?
warrblade101 5 years ago 3
This is the exact question that prompted the filmmakers to do away with this ending and film the ending that is now in the movie.
lonelywalker 5 years ago 5
You can hear the distant sounds of seagulls and crashing waves.
cubezero1 5 years ago