Why is this like the only time they sing the clean part live? I have been looking for one to see if he could do it live and he can do it just fine... anyone explain this?
Uhmm, the way peopel scream, like the screamo type way, doesnt hurt your throat, thats why is sounds different to as if you just like normally scream, there are teqniques you have to use, and its really hard to learn.
From what I've heard your suppose to scream with your diaphragm and not use your throat. It sounds like he is just using his throat the entire time.
They are also constantly touring and they are on stage for...lets say an hour. So in 1 week that is 7 hours of screaming and in 1 month that is around 28 hours of screaming. A lot of screamers have had some serious health problems because of how much they scream.
@FaLL3NiZDoWn You are underestimating Mike Hrancia! He's a screaming guru. He has been doing this for years. Its not going to affect him. Screaming isn't just screaming. I learned my lesson. So now I can scream with no worries about my throat.
why do people always cut the video off while they're still talking? the good thing about this video was that he was kind of to the side so he got a btter shot than most do. it was good he was close cause everyone shoots from way back so you cant even see the band members hardly. got to love the song haha. buy the recording its awesome haha!
Deathcore, deathmetal, metalcore, metallicdeathcore, blackmetal, blacksymphonicmetal, blackdeathcoremetal, metaldeathearthcore, who the fuck gives a shit. It's because of shit like that that I decided that genres are for faggots who would rather associate themselves with a specific scene than just enjoy music. Music is music. TDWP, Kid Cudi, Dance Gavin Dance, Lady GaGA, Dimmu Borgir and even Britney Fucking Spears. It's all just music, labeling something just makes it complicated.
Alright, I'll try to explain this to you dipshit, try to comprehend. Most of the band members have girlfriend/wives meaning, no it's not against their religion to get pussy from them. Suck is a matter of opinion and for my earlier comment please comprehend again, it's saying that they could get more pussy then you ever could.
anyone who likes these guys or anything like them, blows. end of story. period. theres nothing else anyone can say. this is pussy shit. the only reason that anyone likes these guys is because they cant handle real metal. tight pants wearing fags.
i thought they were christian? so doesnt that mean that getting pussy would be against there belief system? you dont even know what you're talking about in the first place dude. so just stop talking altogether.
go suck your own dick. coz tbh, you sound like the kinda guy that would fuck himself. the big headed kinda guy. next time, when you look in the mirror, try not to get a boner over yourself. kay?
hey fuck you, this band is awesome, this is better then listening to gay fucken rap (which i hate so much) if you don't like the video, don't comment on it.
if the devil wears prada were to jump off the grand canyon ide bring pop corn and friends cuz it would be there last performance. TDWp ruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuullllllllllllllzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Do0d
What? So you would be happy if it was their last performance because you don't like them or you would want to bring pop corn because you think that it would be their best performance because they are all about to die
95% of people would be in a panic if the Jonas Brothers were about to jump off the Grand Canyon. Copy and Paste if your that one 5% that brought popcorn and invited friends
95% of people would be in a panic if the Jonas Brothers were about to jump off the Grand Canyon. Copy and Paste if your that one 5% that brought popcorn and invited friends
95% of people would be in a panic if the Jonas Brothers were about to jump off the Grand Canyon. Copy and Paste if your that one 5% that brought popcorn and invited friends
95% of people would be in a panic if the Jonas Brothers were about to jump off the Grand Canyon. Copy and Paste if your that one 5% that brought popcorn and invited friends
95% of people would be in a panic if the Jonas Brothers were about to jump off the Grand Canyon. Copy and Paste if your that one 5% that brought popcorn and invited friends
mhm yeah there bud he said "i think" which means he wasnt sure. i was just trying to help him out but if you want to be really mature over there and try to stir something up go ahead.
95% of people would be in a panic if the Jonas Brothers were about to jump off the Grand Canyon. Copy and Paste if your that one 5% that brought popcorn and invited friends
go see them in person before u watch a video and make crap assumptions because ur dead wrong, i dont really like DWP but i will admit not many bands sound as good as they do live, try listening to more than just vocasls bro.
ur the numba 1 suttuna u guna fly go straight to the mall turn out the inside! prowler gucci full length leather bourbons cooler gucci sweater 20 inches pop my feather daddy im the bird man and i fly in any weather!!!!!! *well i think thats it lol*
Dude, ssbrosking36, if you hate TDWP so damn much why do you even bother to listen to it? KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK (NOT YOU ssbrosking36 -- The Devil Wears PRADA)
The devil wears prada sucks so fucking bad. In recording they have to send the drum tracks to have them fixed because he sucks so bad. AND in order to get voted best live band their label made their bassist not play and run bass tracks live so he could rock out more.
His throat is fucked up or something because his deep screams are not coming out the way he wants.
mikeyvarner 2 weeks ago
its crazy how much older they look after only 3 years...Punk Goes Crunk is awesome!
OUtsidethenine4eva 4 weeks ago
oli freaking sucks now, he has nothing compared to these guys! mike fucking trashes oli shits any time!!!!
JesusxIsxGonexLol 4 months ago
@JesusxIsxGonexLol he's always sucked
metalm0therfucker 3 months ago
wutever it is TDWP is still fly & god damn good.. :D
razielapoplexy1992 5 months ago
these guys are soooo rad!
playsomepaintball 7 months ago
im diggin the shants
wtpbmx398 11 months ago
at 1:32 was the keyboard guy really humping his keyboard?
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i love how the dude on the keyboard bangs his head the most haha
and got to love 3:00 haha
TheBlakecote 11 months ago
i love how the dude on the keyboard bangs his head the most haha
TheBlakecote 11 months ago
00:22 singer looks gay but still luf the band!
OwnerzHybrid 1 year ago
imm in fucking love.
ajaneybaby 1 year ago
shitty qualety man
charjaboy123456789 1 year ago
gay
Chrisguy42O 1 year ago
its very hard to scream a rap :L
ild love to see oli sykes try to do this song :L
epic fail that would be
Tkme2yourdealer 1 year ago 22
@Tkme2yourdealer Loool hahhah., pretty much right!
23black061 1 year ago
@Tkme2yourdealer for screamo rap listen to Attila - Soda In The Water Cup :P
Goinbefskie 10 months ago 2
@Tkme2yourdealer I can see why you dont like him but I luuv him his high screams are jiz, the are so spot on. even when I saw him live...
camlikescootngirls 10 months ago
@Tkme2yourdealer haha garuntee you i can convince oli to try :D im friends with him on fb and i talk to him some times :D
xMetalRockerx1 8 months ago
@Tkme2yourdealer Mike is way better than Oli.
albanianfreak7 7 months ago
@albanianfreak7 yeh no shit, thats wat i said
Tkme2yourdealer 7 months ago
imagine trying to learn all those fucking words haha
kered927 1 year ago
haha those are black niggers not carrot tops
humins11 1 year ago
@humins11 he's talking about the guy on the stage xD
TiffaniCanJumpOverYO 1 year ago
TDWP never pulls a bad show.
Kimimaru996 1 year ago 3
TDWP 4 LIFE
misteryarcticmonkey 1 year ago
Why is this like the only time they sing the clean part live? I have been looking for one to see if he could do it live and he can do it just fine... anyone explain this?
ilikeguns 1 year ago
They messed up at the end but i like the save!!
iFranki13 1 year ago
absolute meathead at 1.30
A7xmatt1992 1 year ago
@A7xmatt1992 Fuck yeah he is, hahahahahahahaha.
MrRealisticX 1 year ago
dude his screaming is amazing live your try screaming for 7 years doing shows every other night and see if your screaming can be better. bitch
iMakeYouSceam 1 year ago
I dont like their clean vocals at all. the screaming is pretty bad too, their vocals are shot.
ChadnPeopleTV 1 year ago
@ChadnPeopleTV yea but you have to realize hes screaming and rapping, which is very hard too pull off live.
christrocker24 1 year ago
2:55 omg, fucking awesome breakdown
DylanThurecht 1 year ago
@DylanThurecht not really lol
zechtech656 1 year ago
He is terrible screaming live
TheXshredder 1 year ago
@TheXshredder
You try it.
evanescencegal101 1 year ago
iv never been to a screamo concert. i like listening at home better. But he is really good tho i would die if i had to do that!
zarzar246 1 year ago
Uhmm, the way peopel scream, like the screamo type way, doesnt hurt your throat, thats why is sounds different to as if you just like normally scream, there are teqniques you have to use, and its really hard to learn.
ninja4ce 1 year ago
i love this song!! :D
oJUDAYALo 1 year ago
The guy screaming is going to get some serious throat issues from screaming like that and for so long
Kind of like Jordan from ASD :(
?4 ulcers? or something...I'm not a doctor
FaLL3NiZDoWn 1 year ago
Actually people who do screamo have to do throat exersizes and also train themselves to scream without messing their throat up.
tablekloth 1 year ago 4
@tablekloth
From what I've heard your suppose to scream with your diaphragm and not use your throat. It sounds like he is just using his throat the entire time.
They are also constantly touring and they are on stage for...lets say an hour. So in 1 week that is 7 hours of screaming and in 1 month that is around 28 hours of screaming. A lot of screamers have had some serious health problems because of how much they scream.
FaLL3NiZDoWn 1 year ago
@FaLL3NiZDoWn well there is actually some technique to screaming. you don't hurt your voice if you follow the techniques
RedefineObvious 1 year ago
@FaLL3NiZDoWn You are underestimating Mike Hrancia! He's a screaming guru. He has been doing this for years. Its not going to affect him. Screaming isn't just screaming. I learned my lesson. So now I can scream with no worries about my throat.
8JobForAMexican8 1 year ago
TDWP are awesome live
J0eHav0k 1 year ago
well when your screaming in every song it kinda wears you down,big time.
flipinsweet 2 years ago 2
u guys these guysr great live, but yeah it would sound tons better if they had some spirit
ObsessedPig 2 years ago 2
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gosh they suck crap live!!!!!!!!!!!!!
547dagger547 2 years ago
@547dagger547 bad quality...that's all
Nmcr1fanN 2 years ago
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nah they just suck crap...
547dagger547 2 years ago
nah i'v seen them 4 times and they are fucking sick live. best shows iv been to
dicelyon 2 years ago
Why are you here if you think they suck? dumbass
xXxPEACExXx16 2 years ago
i dont think they suck. they just suck live or after playing 50 songs thats all
547dagger547 2 years ago
uhhh yeah i guess but they r still good live
mastrsordskateboardr 2 years ago
its really bad quality, and screaming that much and changing pitches so much with a big crowd....
knockemdead8 2 years ago
it looks like the singers elbowing the gutarist at 1 02-104
kolton1122 2 years ago
people there need to have frekin spirit seriously!!!!!!! i would be the lukiest to be there !never been 2 a concert:[ MIKE!!!!!!!:D AWSOME !!!<33
jonasgum52 2 years ago
at :59 i lol'd
johnroxdemsox 2 years ago
Lmao...
you Lol'd?
I'm pretty sure after playing a set you'd be exhausted too...
umm... Compare it to how you feel after you suck a dick?
xD
xMiguelDrums 2 years ago
lol im not h8ing i meant i wasnt ready for him to do that it came out of nowhere and i just lol'd i wuv devil wears prada
johnroxdemsox 2 years ago
rrar
QuackDeath 2 years ago
whats up with carrot top working the camera in the bottom left hand of the screen?
semicolonman 2 years ago 63
wow, i just relized that, haha, i like how the synth player is like the "hype man" for the band, he barely plays
3vansmus1c 2 years ago
haha yea dude hes kickass jumpin everywhere and shit
bobopalooo 2 years ago
@semicolonman i think he likes em :D
tukker933 1 year ago
@semicolonman hes something of tdwp,he always tapes their shows
Chris0334 1 year ago
@semicolonman His name is ben pappenheimer. I went to school with him in high school In des moines. (Iowa) Look him up on facebook.
swiftkaratechop47 4 days ago
: D I Love Them More And More Everyday Jeremy Is Amazing!! <3
SnazzelWinkel 2 years ago
Mike and Jeremy are the best singer.
ChezWearsVans 2 years ago
whats the name of the guitarist that also does vocals?
kilamatanji 2 years ago
Jeremy DePoyster
soamiemoornot 2 years ago 2
Is it like carrot top in the left upper corner at the beginning? :D
Stickmanp00p 2 years ago 3
yea but inhale is pussy shit lol an dfucks with your lungs, but it never hurt me even when i started, my throat doesnt even get fucked up if its dry.
thisuserrulesdotcom 2 years ago
inhales are for bitches <3
soamiemoornot 2 years ago 3
<3 Jeremy <3
XXMeganxxMorphineXX 2 years ago
1:17 - 1:20
there piano guy is kinda a spaz lol
666HeavyMetalist 2 years ago 3
i saw them live at warped in indiana
mitchman2014 2 years ago
Why werent they at The Warped tour this Year In Indiana? Does anyone know? Were they even at The Warped tour this Year?
Oh and Does the Screaming Like, Hurt your Voice or is it just a Talent? Lol.
sissiegurl 2 years ago
Yupp, I saw them.
Opened with Reptar, king of the ozone.
DietyRequiem 2 years ago
Talent
guitarkd93 2 years ago
They were at Warped Tour 2008 & 2009
psmgamer 2 years ago
uhmm screaming can hurt ur voice if ur doing it the wrong way
it doesnt if u do it the correct way, inhale or exhale
666HeavyMetalist 2 years ago
talent bud, its like lifting weights. at first itll hurt and stuff but then ur body gets used to it
AjTaylor12345 2 years ago
The head banging is all in sync. Haha.
Jeremy Depoyster<3
spaztasticblonde 2 years ago
haha carrot top at the left in the begging
watusay11 2 years ago
holy shit nice quality!!!
5/5 <3 this song also
siblingXrivalry 2 years ago
douche*
point still made.
HonesdaleWrestler 2 years ago
ur a faggot point still made
coolbutt7 2 years ago
calm yourself buttfuck7.
just correcting,
HonesdaleWrestler 2 years ago
I want them here! *sniff, sniff* I love them! They're great!
TechnoxChaos 2 years ago
i love jeremy :) haha im sad u cant see the drummer very well or at all
HIPHOPGURL12345 2 years ago
I wonder if Dwight Schrute was at this concert!
Th3Downz 2 years ago
AHH I REMEMBER THIS !
I was there !
moshing.
baybeeparamore 2 years ago 3
me too! if i hit you in the face im sorry!
(serious) lmao
HonesdaleWrestler 2 years ago
hahah, I can't recall so it's good either way :D
I can handle a punch !
baybeeparamore 2 years ago
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suck, they sound like little girls
indra561 2 years ago
why are you watching the vid
L1NDF1RE 2 years ago
pause @ 1:49 andy is rubing his nose while headbang looks funny.
BurnOutMusic 2 years ago
1:25 I love how the big black dude just walks away like... all these kids and them f***ing music.
lol!
I agree... lame crowd... TDWP's singer is so funny. I love them.
ChungWii 2 years ago
shitty crowd -.-
anchxblowfishy 2 years ago
why do people always cut the video off while they're still talking? the good thing about this video was that he was kind of to the side so he got a btter shot than most do. it was good he was close cause everyone shoots from way back so you cant even see the band members hardly. got to love the song haha. buy the recording its awesome haha!
skaterNC15 2 years ago
Deathcore, deathmetal, metalcore, metallicdeathcore, blackmetal, blacksymphonicmetal, blackdeathcoremetal, metaldeathearthcore, who the fuck gives a shit. It's because of shit like that that I decided that genres are for faggots who would rather associate themselves with a specific scene than just enjoy music. Music is music. TDWP, Kid Cudi, Dance Gavin Dance, Lady GaGA, Dimmu Borgir and even Britney Fucking Spears. It's all just music, labeling something just makes it complicated.
tiptep 2 years ago 44
i agree with you tiptep but not labeling these guys doesnt change the fact that they suck.
yes212 2 years ago
Alright, I'll try to explain this to you dipshit, try to comprehend. Most of the band members have girlfriend/wives meaning, no it's not against their religion to get pussy from them. Suck is a matter of opinion and for my earlier comment please comprehend again, it's saying that they could get more pussy then you ever could.
brandonthekid 2 years ago 2
@tiptep Fucking is Brittany Spears middle name??? holy shit XD
Jonbobjoedon 1 year ago
@tiptep I agree. I find it funny how people say music is their life but they go around trashing all different types of music.
InFearNFaith 1 year ago
@tiptep Hell yeah!
1Lottery 1 year ago
@tiptep someone had to say it eventually. thank you<3
ZombieXmuffin 1 year ago
@tiptep I like that you threw KC in there :]
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anyone who likes these guys or anything like them, blows. end of story. period. theres nothing else anyone can say. this is pussy shit. the only reason that anyone likes these guys is because they cant handle real metal. tight pants wearing fags.
yes212 2 years ago
would you quit whining faggot D= dont be mad because you know these guys get more pussy then you do
brandonthekid 2 years ago
i thought they were christian? so doesnt that mean that getting pussy would be against there belief system? you dont even know what you're talking about in the first place dude. so just stop talking altogether.
yes212 2 years ago
yes212 go bonk your mum, HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
ShadowTEEHEE 2 years ago
Typical " im right, nobody else matters" guy right here. get over yourself mate.
DeanDisaster1 2 years ago
go suck your own dick. coz tbh, you sound like the kinda guy that would fuck himself. the big headed kinda guy. next time, when you look in the mirror, try not to get a boner over yourself. kay?
ANDYphoenix1993 2 years ago
these guys blow.... you wanna see a guy who doesnt miss any scream??? suicide silence. now thats real metal.
yes212 2 years ago
No... thats screamo you newb fag.
Btw the lead singer jumping in the beginning is retarded.
Still wicked good tune.
clintonman 2 years ago
1:01 he missed a scream
dirtbikr66 2 years ago
well yea dude u cant expect him to hit every single one...that would be insanely hard
Tr0cKeR 2 years ago
yeah thats true he would be warn out by the end of july
dirtbikr66 2 years ago
i love the two guys playing guitar how they head bang
cia94dogs14 2 years ago
kinda stupid to tell someone if they don't like a band to not comment on the video. it is a good thing to have everyone's opinion.
DemonicGman 2 years ago
you have a nice camera
^_^
kishellblogger 2 years ago
TDWP
what real music sounds like
/,,/
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j13194711459 2 years ago 2
gahhh, it was an accident,
chilll. ahaha.
Rissayyx3 2 years ago
haha i was there =]
saboosh12 2 years ago
this band sux live or at least this song
FaithiNdeK 2 years ago
you try screaming a rap song.
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no thanx ill leave the gay singing to the gay band
FaithiNdeK 2 years ago
dude you get upon stage and play music its harder than it looks!
Link7990 2 years ago
hey fuck you, this band is awesome, this is better then listening to gay fucken rap (which i hate so much) if you don't like the video, don't comment on it.
Ibanez182Rocker24 2 years ago
fuck you :D
simpsonsfan94 2 years ago
they sound bad live cuz this song they scream through most of the song and screaming is hard to do live
slash6194750 2 years ago
i love how they headbandd all at the same time.
i wanna see TDW is concert sooo bad. :D
Rissayyx3 2 years ago
Headband at the same time ? Lol ...
zklfs 2 years ago
Must be foreign.
kultmonkey 2 years ago
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potholeprefix 2 years ago
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potholeprefix 2 years ago
LOL
potholeprefix 2 years ago
they are awsome!!!!
emokidzrule46 2 years ago
2:25 is SO sick
tygolf11 2 years ago
if the devil wears prada were to jump off the grand canyon ide bring pop corn and friends cuz it would be there last performance. TDWp ruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuullllllllllllllzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Do0d
jojopotatoe6 2 years ago
What? So you would be happy if it was their last performance because you don't like them or you would want to bring pop corn because you think that it would be their best performance because they are all about to die
MrManMan2000 2 years ago
talking to jojopotatoe6
MrManMan2000 2 years ago
I think they're saying that they'd just enjoy there last show regardless of what it is cause no doubt it would be one hell of a performance.
PezCasper 2 years ago
nah man tdwp is the best band ever man i love them i would jump with em
jojopotatoe6 2 years ago
95% of people would be in a panic if the Jonas Brothers were about to jump off the Grand Canyon. Copy and Paste if your that one 5% that brought popcorn and invited friends
kk4rmtkok 2 years ago 3
that means 95% of the world is girls wtf? wait. girls and homos
kylesfate 2 years ago
95% of people would be in a panic if the Jonas Brothers were about to jump off the Grand Canyon. Copy and Paste if your that one 5% that brought popcorn and invited friends
STDFRulezDoOd 2 years ago
95% of people would be in a panic if the Jonas Brothers were about to jump off the Grand Canyon. Copy and Paste if your that one 5% that brought popcorn and invited friends
ChrandKat 2 years ago
lucky
coolio939 2 years ago
95% of people would be in a panic if the Jonas Brothers were about to jump off the Grand Canyon. Copy and Paste if your that one 5% that brought popcorn and invited friends
thepumpkinking866 2 years ago
95% of people would be in a panic if the Jonas Brothers were about to jump off the Grand Canyon. Copy and Paste if your that one 5% that brought popcorn and invited friends
heavymetalmonster666 2 years ago
mhm yeah there bud he said "i think" which means he wasnt sure. i was just trying to help him out but if you want to be really mature over there and try to stir something up go ahead.
cUBes16Qb 2 years ago
they were the bomb in cleveland
vdrjam 2 years ago
sdmfsdmfn in your lyrics change the first "fly" to "glide" and you got it.
cUBes16Qb 2 years ago
No one asked for your opinion.
The band is already a god.
xD
Xcelorat0r 2 years ago
95% of people would be in a panic if the Jonas Brothers were about to jump off the Grand Canyon. Copy and Paste if your that one 5% that brought popcorn and invited friends
claud763 2 years ago
haha im that 5 percent
bkslobkilla1993 2 years ago
song is damn good but the band looks like a bunch of no style
Shleague 2 years ago
your retarded. its people like you who are mainstream. its the music that u should ONLY pay attention to...the looks of the band does not matter....
DeNeTiX 2 years ago
What the fuck did i say? the music is fucking good but the band look like shit.
Shleague 2 years ago
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they sukk live
FunIsWhatWeAimFor69 2 years ago
go see them in person before u watch a video and make crap assumptions because ur dead wrong, i dont really like DWP but i will admit not many bands sound as good as they do live, try listening to more than just vocasls bro.
TrailerTrashThorne 2 years ago
theyre pretty sloppy live...if you stand back and listen, most bands are...they sound good to you because youre at a show, anything would
ccampbell92 2 years ago
no thr sick live
whskym 2 years ago
omg yea they are.. theyre soooo f***in good love
drummerman0811 2 years ago
ur the numba 1 suttuna u guna fly go straight to the mall turn out the inside! prowler gucci full length leather bourbons cooler gucci sweater 20 inches pop my feather daddy im the bird man and i fly in any weather!!!!!! *well i think thats it lol*
sdmfsdmfn 2 years ago
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310exkratos 2 years ago
GREAT VIDEO. No screaming Haa
They dont sound like there live & THEY ACTUALLY ARE ! i Love It! There The BEST !
maddy390 2 years ago
Dude, ssbrosking36, if you hate TDWP so damn much why do you even bother to listen to it? KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK (NOT YOU ssbrosking36 -- The Devil Wears PRADA)
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The devil wears prada sucks so fucking bad. In recording they have to send the drum tracks to have them fixed because he sucks so bad. AND in order to get voted best live band their label made their bassist not play and run bass tracks live so he could rock out more.
thats not what music's about if you ask me.
fuck the devil wears prada.
ssbrosking36 2 years ago
Haha. Wtf. Lol
maidaid 2 years ago
Best Vid. Up close great song
xF0utsx 2 years ago 2
I love when Jeremy sings loud, its amazing!
ChancesAreYouCant 2 years ago 2
I meant to say live... but when he sings out like that, its great!
ChancesAreYouCant 2 years ago 2
Jeremy is just the best!
I love his voice and he is quite hot if you ask meh!
But yeah this is the BEST band ever!
NeverShoutNever41 2 years ago
holy shit that camera guys hair lol.
great video tho sounds great.
JayBlayy 2 years ago
i love how they are all headbaning at same pace it looks sick
teehee12 2 years ago
wow that's really sad. I can remember when the original version of this song was the shit
94029374938402048 2 years ago