@dirtywhores4cash What the hell is wrong with you, there was not any mention of Islam in this, it was talking about the authenticity of the Bible, are you retarded?
its been told that the devil will have his tricks and people will not only not believe but be repelled and distraught at the sight of the Word. Soon Faith will seem like a burned, and to believe will be live a life of hardship
someone said we don't need a God we have science, but science never says God doesnt exist, science is about using theories and when 1 is disproved another comes until it seems right. science keeps being rewritten and in 100 years everything we now know could be gone
@AlexiusMoore yes religion does attack us, there are people who want creationism to be in our science classes, and want to teach people things that we now know are not true, and yes, big bang created the universe
U so sure about the Big Bang, do u even know what it is. Do u realize that scientists themselves are not convinced by the Big Bang, and there about 100 different theories on the creation of the Universe but yet u just hop on the bandwagon and expect everyone to be as ignorant as u
If you know anthing about science, u would know that nothing is known for sure.
@AlexiusMoore they are sure about the big bang, we have very good evidence for that, and it is attacking if you want to teach my child lies in school, its science not a bandwagon, and i am not ignorant, i change my opinion when i see evidence, the main reason why i dont believe in fairytales and gods
@RedStarBelgradefan Believe what u want... but your comment about scientists "being sure about the Big Bang" shows your lack of knowledge in the field.
We have no real evidence for the Big Bang, because scientists dont even know what it really was, do some research and dont talk about things you do not know
@AlexiusMoore no, you dont know, read some books from from lawrence krauss in which he explains how the universe could come from literally nothing, and how the big bang happend and our evidence for it and then tell me that we have no evidence for it
@AlexiusMoore yes bible also speaks of slavery, killing innocente people and that people were made in a day and that a lot more crazy stuff, and a dog could give birth to a chimpanzee only in a bible maybe or a similiar fairytale
@RedStarBelgradefan The world was made in periods of time. why talk about something uv never even bothered to read?
Believing that the Universe was made out of nothing, at random completely by accident. and that life just appeared out of no where and evolved from nothing into complex beings is equivalant to a house being built completely at random out of nothing and by accident and people inside just evolved from absolatly nothing. dont see that very much these days do u?
@AlexiusMoore no its not that like that, universe has hundreds of billions of planets stars and galaxies, there were good chances that life will happen eventually, and i did read some bits of the bible and the old testament and if you believe in that obviosly made up story then i really dont know what to say
@RedStarBelgradefan life doesn't just appear out of no where, even if there are gazillian billion plannets like Earth. life doesnt pop out of nowhere...
Anyway this is pointless, don't even know why were arguing its not gonna accomplish anything
@AlexiusMoore@AlexiusMoore That is not true... cc knew that the earth was round... he and many others before him knew it. Believing without evidence is suicide.
Was put together in year 325 at the Council of Nicea (google it for information) as ordered by the Roman Emperor Constantine. Written by men, not God. For enlightenment, visit Deism dot com to learn to know God through nature and your God-given ability to reason.
@MJFAN666 If your a Atheist, I am not going to ask why you became it because they are reasons why people don't believe their is a divine being. Something create law of the universe.
@MJFAN666 Some say is God or a Divine Being and some don't know and say it happened after the big bang. Things don't just happen there are reason for it to happen.
@RedStarBelgradefan Don't be rude. I am not a radical Christian! I understand most Christians are not really good at all but it doesn't mean there isn't a divine being that create us and the universe! I have Hindu, Muslim, and Christian families and we all get along because we blood related! I understand the Bible is very "interesting" book because contradict itself a lot but doesn't rule out something create us!
But something created the universe, And to think it happened completely at random and just created itself out of nowhere, defies the laws of logic, nature and science
Atheists always make me chukkle their so antaganized by religion, i mean if u dont believe than fine but you all act like religion is attacking u. if i throu Holy water at u , u would roll on the floor screaming
Why do people still believe in an all-powerful magic man in the sky? Our Stone Age ancestors needed him to explain what they didn't understand. We have science for that. Most deeply religious people are of the same faith as their parents. They have been brainwashed since childhood to believe this drivel.
@mike112769 that's true. Also don't forget how brainwashed the rest of society is by materialism and certain aspects of mainstream science. One must be TOTALLY deprogrammed to see the truth, not just religiously.
an asshole; that's who wrote the bible the prick set the world in a crash curse, people who have delusions of grandeur, a guilty conscience , and a commode for a soul believe in this trash and kill,destroy and slave their brothers and sisters in the name of a deity, and then seek shelter from their guilt.
You now how masons (I bet its someone else HIGHER doing this) love to put stuff in everything?
They need to make a movie or a video game like that tv show DAYS OF OUR LIVES (no Im not homo and dont watch it) how it has stories of MULTIPLE people in same "universe" and they all meet up with each other some how? A movie or video game of "something" about ESCAPING something or SURVIVING it LOL.
I forgot what I wanted it to be about but make it into metaphors, ALIEN invasion or something.
@DarkPrinceNH5570 All these people have issues or found out about something thanks to ONE individual. And this one individual is very special and was waiting for a certain woman in some city. These other people were going thru their own drama and were trying to leave. As for this INDIVIDUAL he leaves with her and some how they all meet up some where. ZOMBIE apocalypse or ALIEN INVASION?
He is brought to the EYE of everything and is briefed with "others" that he never met before about stuff.
@DarkPrinceNH5570 After being briefed about something from someone HIGH UP, this INDIVIDUAL and these other KNIGHTs are all in unform but dressed as monks (robes) except him.
@DarkPrinceNH5570 He is brought to a room and given his MERIT/AWARDS for excellence and ID for this "Knighthood" and sword.
Given a uniform and weapons too and everything he ever wanted through these Guardians. Giant statue of a SNAKE wrapped around a sword as a statue with SIGILLV MILITVMI XPISTI on it? That sound right?
You now how masons (I bet its someone else HIGHER doing this) love to put stuff in everything?
They need to make a movie or a video game like that tv show DAYS OF OUR LIVES (no Im not homo and dont watch it) how it has stories of MULTIPLE people in same "universe" and they all meet up with each other some how? A movie or video game of "something" about ESCAPING something or SURVIVING it LOL.
You now how masons (I bet its someone else HIGHER doing this) love to put stuff in everything?
They need to make a movie or a video game like that tv show DAYS OF OUR LIVES (no Im not homo and dont watch it) how it has stories of MULTIPLE people in same "universe" and they all meet up with each other some how? A movie or video game of "something" about ESCAPING something or SURVIVING it LOL.
I forgot what I wanted it to be about but make it into metaphors, ALIEN invasion or something.
You now how masons (I bet its someone else HIGHER doing this) love to put stuff in everything?
They need to make a movie or a video game like that tv show DAYS OF OUR LIVES (no Im not homo and dont watch it) how it has stories of MULTIPLE people in same "universe" and they all meet up with each other some how? A movie or video game of "something" about ESCAPING something or SURVIVING it LOL.
I forgot what I wanted it to be about but make it into metaphors, ALIEN invasion or something.
You now how masons (I bet its someone else HIGHER doing this) love to put stuff in everything?
They need to make a movie or a video game like that tv show DAYS OF OUR LIVES (no Im not homo and dont watch it) how it has stories of MULTIPLE people in same "universe" and they all meet up with each other some how? A movie or video game of "something" about ESCAPING something or SURVIVING it LOL.
I forgot what I wanted it to be about but make it into metaphors, ALIEN invasion or something.
Watch a war breakout between Christans vs masons. And the people who read the Quaran join up with Christians haha. Im going to laugh if this happens. Im joining up with the REAL Christians.
Dont watch any of this crap but some sources are "in a way" REAL.
The Bible is real. It does promote a TRUE reading of BIBLICAL HISTORY. Quran is the same. The other religions like Judiasm is related to the bible too. Combine all the HISTORIES together you get what?
The only religions I was curious about was the CIRCLE religions (symbols). Hindu/Buddists (swastika, yin yang and so on, theres others).
usa as in scientology and mormonism isnt part of this CHRISTIAN thing. They are masons
Dont watch any of this crap but some sources are "in a way" REAL.
The Bible is real. It does promote a TRUE reading of BIBLICAL HISTORY. Quran is the same. The other religions like Judiasm is related to the bible too. Combine all the HISTORIES together you get what?
The only religions I was curious about was the CIRCLE religions (symbols). Hindu/Buddists (swastika, yin yang and so on, theres others).
usa as in scientology and mormonism isnt part of this CHRISTIAN thing. They are masons
The people who call the Bible dumb are showing true ignorance. People its a book of faith not a book of history and science. That is the major difference, and if people believe in it, well one must respect such belief. Disrespecting beliefs is a major fault in all the world and the causation of war. If you consider yourself so knowledgeable, then you would know such intolerance is mere ignorance. Respect can take us a long way.
the bible is dumb. it says god created a man and a woman, OK. they had a sex - a child was born, OK. and then what? they had sex again and both their children had sex after a few years?
this book seems a bit dodgy but there's a new book in town. Its gods final revelation to mankind and its called the quran, read it and see if it makes sense guys.
For love is joy, and happiness. Through sadness comes love, and through love comes joy, and happiness. The love has been given, Jesus. Don't let it pass you, love is patient. It is waiting for you, God is waiting.
Through God comes a love that will never end, and through that love, that comes from God comes a true joy, and a happiness that will always be forever because it comes from God.
repent ye, men of the heathen ... If your brain is not even visible to you .. what God is one .. the statue. trees and others .. can not do anything .. god will help you if you are in pain .. orphans .. repent .. and pleased with him .. god had no children .. if he has children .. Destroyed the world because of their differences .. gods of the Day of Judgement .. Judgement is the secret .. people have no right to know .. unless the time has come .. islam for all .. pray for god .. amen ..الله .
Hey guys don't fret anything, religion is gonna be scarce. We're evolving. That's nature, and if there is one thing more complete than the idea of god, it's nature.
As soon as religion is no longer an imposition, we can work towards what humanity has ever wanted, peace.
@WaleedDaGreat Evolving to what? People get fatter and retarded by the minute watching american idol and eating burgers. You should never want religion, instead build a relationship with a living God/Jesus the creator of the universe.
finally check mate religion, mauro biglino, a former translater for the vatican, has translated the original old testament without bastardizing it, like the one you guys read which is from around 700ad.
your god is fake (in a way lol) and the original writings from YOUR book prove it.
nothing you say can change what has been translated, you have been lied to.
thumbs up so all religious people with an ounce of intellect can see for themselves
imagine if you went into stasis for 2000 years and found a religion built around fiction like HG Wells novel War of the Worlds and other books with a first person narrative.
@TheEnforcer357 You forgot to add Moses to the list of murdering pieces of crap. Read Numbers Chapter 31. The tribute of "persons" Moses had slaughtered was 30,000 people on the LORD's command, see verse 40. Jehovah even specifically said to slaughter "little ones" (children) and rape the daughters. Anyone who thinks Yahweh/Jehovah is a peaceful loving god is delusional. The genocide of 30,000 men, women, and children is only one of the filthy stories contained in the bible.
2 Timothy {3:16} All scripture [is] given by INSPIRATION of God
Quran 3:108 These are revelations of Allah. We RECITE UNTO THEE in truth. Allah willeth no injustice to (His) creatures.
Quran is the DICTATION of Allah. Meaning, no one is RESPONSIBLE for these words except that who DICTATED the words as the DICTATED WORDS are his
But when words are INSPIRED by someone or some event, like invitation to a dinner, then writer is the SOLE RESPONSIBLE for the INSPIRED words as they are NOT dictated
The Qura'an is pure holy words from God himself , but Bible was changed by humans some words added and some were deleted thats why alot of books been created from one book the real holy book isn't existed any more , is gone , and so another book came that is from God is the Qura'an the,, the truth is Bible is just people poems
"In no text do we find any connected history of the god, and nowhere are stated in detail the reasons why he assumed his exalted position as the JUDGE OF SOULS. or why, FOR FOUR THOUSAND YEARS, HE REMAINED THE GREAT TYPE AND SYMBOL OF THE ....R.E.S.U.R.R.E.C.T.I.O.N."
EA WALLIS BUDGE
'OSIRIS AND THE EGYPTIAN RESURRECTION' (Chapt. 1, pg. 1, 1st paragraph)
@TheTimeforwar maybe soon but Don't worry as you learn more, you will understand that no all ideologies benefit humankind such as Islam that oppresses even its own followers.Are these books "dead", THE BOOK OF THE DEAD,THE PYRAMID TEXTS, AND THE BOOKS OF THOTH. Are they not interesting and do you learn from them?
Jesus remains active and present in all humankind but unfortunately, Muhammad did once live, leaving behind an ideology of war against true and ancient knowledge.
No these books R not 'dead'. 'Book of the Dead' is not the actual/correct name of the book. Immigrant Arabs of Egypt called it such as the literature was found buried w. the ancient sarcophagi of Egypt. That would make the Bible a 'Book of the Dead' since it can also be found inside of countless buried coffins. Does that make that is it's name? No. And neither is it the correct name of the Egyptian Bible. It's called the 'Prt Em Hru.'
Coming forth into Heaven sounds important to the Ancients.There has always been one God who has been with all People throughout time and throughout all realms of existence. If you eat foods from all over the world, do you consider it plagiarism? Knowledge of coming forth into Heaven was important then as it is important now. The Bible contains knowledge of the coming forth of Heaven and Heaven is awareness of God's presence in your life
There is no dispute over if Jesus Christ actually walked the Earth. That much has been proven, even scientists believe that. Whether or not he was who he claimed to be has not been proven. BUT I believe it. I believe in the Bible, I believe in Jesus and Satan. I have not always believed it. I was athiest up until i was 17 years old. If you don't believe in it, then that's your opinion, there is no need for any of you to fight over this. If you believe, BELIEVE. If you don't, then don't.
@666pounder27 "There is no dispute over if Jesus Christ actually walked the Earth. That much has been proven..." There is dispute, and nothing has been proven.
"The original foundational matter of the Mosaic writings is not, was not, historical at all, but ENTIRELY MYTHICAL.....The myths of EGYPT will be found to have been C.O.P.I.E.D. and R.E.P.R.O.D.U.C.E.D. THE HEBREWS T.O.O.K. THEM FROM THE E.G.Y.P.T.I.A.N.S., with other stolen goods, and were UNABLE or DID NOT CHOOSE to render a T.R.U.E. a.c.c.o.u.n.t. of them."
@TheTime If you love ancient knowledge such as ancient civilizations such as Sumer, Egypt that influenced the world by its high maths. Perhaps you are interested in reincarnation, astral travel, space travel, other worlds, ancient civilizations. The Evidence that God came as Jesus is given to those who ask for the Holy Spirit, for many people, seeing is believing. It boggles my mind that you say Abraham, Jesus and Muhammad never lived yet you quote ancient books that predate them
I quote Ancient Books that predate the manufactured story of 'Abraham' Jesus and Muhammad because those ancient texts are the sources upon which the manufactured story of Abraham is based. The religion of 'God, salvation and resurrection' was the religion of Ancient Egypt stolen and plagiarized by both Greece and Rome. The 'Hebrew' story is a much later manufactured 'religious smoke screen'.
@TheTimeforwar Abraham lived in Canaan where he learned his religious traditions. They worshiped the supreme god El, and also Baal (Hadad). YHWH's consort is Asherah which just so happened to be the consort of El and Baal. Now we know who the god of the bible really is...Baal.
The Bible was written over the course of over a thousand years yet, it flows with consistency. The Bible remains the word of God. We don't need Islamic approval for God reveals in the Bible God's plans for all our world. God desires that all people experience God so that the world can be restored to paradise which is oneness with God. God desires those who love him, to reflect compassion towards others. Those who do not, are not of God but of Satan.
"The WHOLE Christian Bible was derived from the sacred books of Egypt, such as: THE BOOK OF THE DEAD,THE PYRAMID TEXTS, AND THE BOOKS OF THOTH." EA Wallis Budge (Keeper of the Egyptian and Assyrian Antiquities at the British Museum)
@BonjourNuit120 You show that you have not actually read more then a few versus of the bible, because anyone who has read it thoroughly would never say "It flows with consistency". That is what people say who are parroting there spiritual leaders. Actually read it really read it then come back in a month or so and tell us if you still feel it is consistent.
@robtay1963 The Bible is consistent in its prophecies that God continues to fulfill to this day. God describes His enemies to be the Islamic nations as they are the enemies of Israel: Psalms 83:3-9, Zechariah 12:9-10, Rev.20-10.
These are the End Times in which Islam the Antichrist (1 John 2:22 versus S9:30) will play a major role in its own destruction.This promise by God is consistent in the Bible.
It is you who parrots the lies of your leaders who are anything but spiritual
@BonjourNuit120 Aside from elected officials of this country whom make our laws, I don't have any leaders. I was a christian and have read a great deal of the bible. I still read it often. I learn from others such as scientist and those who are more versed in subjects then I am. I just find no truth in the bible anymore. I have learned to much and could never go back to believing in an Invisible, Megalomaniac all powerful being who needs our worship so bad he is willing to torture us to get it
@robtay1963 a) You are right to reject an invisible God who tortures to get us to worship Him for such a God does not exist. Moreover,it is good that you continue to pursue knowledge for in the end you will discover that the greatest Truth is God who is in You. From ancient times, God desired to end all forms of human suffering but People resisted knowing God is with them to guide them out of hell into Heaven.Prophecy proclaims a time will come when all People will experience God
@BonjourNuit120 I have read all of your statements and though they do not change my mind about God, they do show that not all christians are Bible literallists. And your points are well taken. Once I was a christian and I read more of the bible then I had ever read and I started seeking answers in science. Can I prove there is no god? No I can not. I say this if I am wrong and there is a god and he is just in his judgment the he will not torture good people for not accepting what they can't see
@robtay1963 Although Science is important, it does not have all the answers to our question for science like religion has people who use or misuse their badge of authority which misguides people. Had you been given a clear understanding of Jesus' teachings, you would never have left the faith. Recall Christians especially their teachers were persecuted by the Romans for the first 325 years then the Roman persecutors adopted Christianity but maintained their oppressive ways
@robtay1963 I understand how you feel as I use to feel that way. God is all there is in and all people are part of God. God desired People to invite Him into their awareness which would end their fear, sufferings and it would transform them into Joyful, compassionate, innovative and peaceful people. Even Science if it understood all that it has ever studied has been God and if Science workers knew God would assist them in all their endeavors then it would be a better world for all
@robtay1963 The Bible contains history as Israel was/is a tiny piece of land surrounded by hostile Egypt, Assyria, Babylonia and Israel had experienced constant invasions. The Jews recorded wars as wars are. The Jews in turn developed a hardened heart or wounded heart which they then projected onto God but God is not an oppressor rather God is love personified as Jesus.
Whether you believe in God or not, God remains with you to love and to guide you and God accepts you as you are
@robtay1963 Part of my research is on human suffering. God does not torture good or bad people for not accepting what they can't see. There is no greater experience in life than experiencing awareness of God who is with you. God reveals His true nature which is loving,understanding and always ultra modern. You have every right to reject the violence in the Bible but that violence does not come from God but from people who merely believe in God but they do not experience God
@robtay1963 I believe you are a kind and loving person who goes out of your way to help others which is ironic because God is also kind and loving, who goes out of His way to help people. Hell is war, poverty, crimes, or all forms of human suffering but Hell is also not knowing God is with you. God convinces best of His own realism but He does not impose Himself upon People. That you do not believe in God, is because you do not believe in hatred, violence when these are not from God.
@BonjourNuit120 If there is a place of suffering and he sends good people there who's only sin was not finding enough evidence to believe in him then I would not want to be part of his world anyway.I don't believe in the Biblical god, and I doubt the existence of any god,but by my nature I obey the commandments that don't pertain to worshiping god, and I am a very kind loving person who goes out of my way to help others just because it feels good. If your god is good I will be judged by my heart
@robtay1963 b) The Bible is difficult to understand because it was in Hebrew, Greek, Latin then hastily translated by men who were never linguistic experts. God remains real and the Bible remains the word of God by its prophecies, but God is not an oppressor. God is with all People on earth and guides them whether they believe in Him or not. Proof is all People have intuition, also proof that God is consistently compassionate is in the accounts of Life after Death.
@robtay1963 I want to make it clear that I am not trying to impose upon you that you should believe in the God of the Bible but God is not a punishing God. People who suffer often blame God which is evident throughout much of the Bible. Instead People failed to take responsibility for not listening to the way God communicates with all humankind through their intuitive sense. Throughout all time, God desired to restore people to the knowledge God loves and guides through intuition
@robtay1963 It is good you are honest. It is better to question everything you read, I hope you will always do that.
Even so, you haven't yet learnt to distinguish what is from people and what is from God. All that is truth, all that is good is from God. People are responsible for all human suffering yet It would be heaven on earth for all people, if they understood God is with them to guide them away from suffering through our intuitive sense.
@BonjourNuit120 Which God, If you really read the OT and study it's stories to learn they are just legends from other cultures told and retold and altered from generation to generation, and not a running Diary handed down from Adam to Noah to Mosses to Joshua. then you will know it is not true. Next it if is not true then the whole foundation for the Christian church, Jesus dying for Adams sin, makes no sense. If you feel the need for a god then will feel god, but it is not god it is inside you.
@BonjourNuit120 Continued, torture us to get our devotion, yet can not simply show up on earth in modern times when we could verify it was god. But aside from that even if he did and it was the god of the KJV and the bible were all pure fact, I would not worship him, I would rather take my chances in Hell...As I said I have read the bible and the whole chapters so no chance of taking out of text. Through out OT god orders death of children, innocents, women, and kidnapping of teenage virgins.
@robtay1963 Don't use bible versus against me. I am not going to believe 40 nice versus and a few about end times in a book so full of evil done by and ordered by a pretend god. Bible was written when most men could not read so the priest could just read the read the versus they wanted people to hear. I believe that though most people can read now they just choose to believe there Leaders instead of actually reading on there own, cause that is what i did and now I use logic and reason n science
@robtay1963 I understand how you feel about the violence/history in the Bible. Man often projected his own evil ways onto God. It is humankind that oppresses, deceives, and wars against those who differ in any way whereas God is with and in all humankind to guide them out of hell.
The Church is not a reflection of God's love for us and science use to be part of the church but the church persecuted those who differed in belief so science broke off from the church to become atheist
@robtay1963 c) It is written that God calls all the prophets liars and God says a day will come when all people will know Him. God came as Jesus (Isaiah 35:3-8) to reveal his compassionate nature in order for us not to fear the fact that God is in us (John 14-20).
For God offered us awareness of His Loving Presence or Holy Spirit. This knowledge became lost due to the constant persecution of the first Christians in which the Apostles and then teachers were the ones first killed
@BonjourNuit120 And last but not least the severe historical inaccuracies of the KJV, it is as full of holes as the story's of the Gods of Olympus..here are a just a few versus, if you or ok with this god then you are sick.Judges 21:10-24 verse 12 implies rape, Deut 20:10-14, 22:28-29, 21:10-14, Exodus:21:7-11, Zechariah 14:12 Judges11: 30-39, Genesis 38:24, 19:34-38, Joshua 6:19-25,Jeremiah 19:9, Leviticus 21:9, 26:29, Exodus 12:29-30, 21:20-21, Ephesians 5:22-24, Zechariah 14:1-2,Psalms 137:
War has always existed as part of our painful history. In almost every war and even outside of war, babies were and continue to be dashed to pieces. For ours is a loveless world. When God came as Jesus, he healed a violently insane man and God can do this for all the world. God who is with every person on earth does not impose Himself upon anyone, despite we are all part of God and God is in all of us. Ask for His Holy Spirit and you will be given awareness of His Loving realism
@robtay I understand how you feel about the Bible because I too reacted the same way, and it took me years to differentiate between what God is actually like and what man projected onto God. Just like the church differs greatly as to how Jesus is. The Church kept Jesus nailed to the cross rather that teach that God is in us to love and to guide us away from illusions and sufferings into paradise or oneness with God. One day the world will know God and the world will know God is love
Heed! Don't be distracted. Take notice, THE END is near_ Mathew24:36-39. There are real understandings and hope profusely in God's Word, the Bible: The Devil is ruling: 1John5:19 Revelation12:7-12. Major events: Mathew24:7,8,10-14,21,22. People’s behaviors: 2Timothy 3:1-5. God will act soon: Revelation16:13,14 Daniel2:44. We too must act so to be saved: Revelation18:4 Zephaniah2:3 John17:3 Mathew6:9-11,33,34 Mark13:13. A New World at hand: Psalm37:9-11 2Peter3:8-13. Let's choose right!
Ive read in the Gospel of Mary that Mary was born by her virgin mother. Now that's just nuts. No wonder the Vatican didn't include that book. We would have noticed that the Church is just fukcing with us.
If those stories in the bible are fake than who would have the mind to makeup all of those stories. I mean if they are so easy than you try making a story in the bible.
@motagabe1 Lol, biblical stories have terrible morals if any at all. Not to mention the massive amounts of contradictions. I mean, just because Animal Farm is an amazing story with unbelievably creative political metaphors, doesn't mean that George Orwell was "divinely inspired".
islam sucks donkey balls. allah was nothing more than a pagan moon god who that pedophile faggot mohammed (shit be upon him) decided to create a religion around. muslims are all terrorist cowards who should be nuked off the planet. they are worthless, much like their bullshit religion.
IslamStudios overstep their bounds to use any means to attack the Bible is because Islam is war against all faiths in its quest to dominate the world. Ask who wrote the Quran, did Muhammad have the Quran in his hand when he died? What right had anyone to think they could be Muhammad's successors and to compose the Quran taken from any person and forced upon you to accept it when it is contradicts all of God's Ten Commandments,
the Bible remains as the Word of God, only Islam is not from God
Muhammad never had the Quran in his hand when he died and what right were his companions to believe in succession when prophet hood has no succession except when God told Abraham that God chose not Ishmael but Isaac to carry as everlasting the covenant which means Muhammad Never was God's prophet rather he used God to do evil and to invent a religion of war against true believers of the one true God.
No wonder wonder Islam is the Antichrist and thank God will destroy Islam
@BonjourNuit <----------- Speaking of the devil..wow. Instead of talking nonsense about Islam, why dont you disprove this video? Its not the Quran they are talking about, are they? Your comments contradict itself, just like your Bible. You have no respect for our prophet that is understandable, but what is worst is that you have no respect for any prophet. Do you know what Ismael means..."God hears"...its in your own Bible...He was a prophet and son of Abraham(pbuh). Open ur eyes
God told Abraham that God chose Isaac to carry as everlasting the covenant which is the prophetic line Genesis 17:19 and that one passage is all one needs to know that Muhammad, Ishmael were never prophets of God. You are able to define Ishmael's name which proves you overlook what debunks Islam itself.
Sunnies and Shiites kill each other by the thousands because of succession when no succession exists as only Jews were chosen by God to be prophets.
SMLIPRT you don't the difference between truth and deception,light and darkness, God and Satan. Only the Quran has Allah praying and praising Muhammad,only the Quran has Muhammad accusing God of beheading infidels, only the Quran has demons praising the Quran sura 72 when demons are liars. Satan is not a stone you throw rocks at, Satan is Lies, hatred, violence, abduction using bribes such as spoils and female slaves that are added before God. Islam is the antichrist thus from satan
@N00bcrunch3r You might want to brush up on your Bible-reading...JESUS WAS JEWISH!!!! So were his followers. Uninformed statements like yours seed ignorance and hatred.
Hmm...what, the Sadducees and the Pharisees weren't Jewish? I never knew that! [sarcasm] The Bible also claims that an enormous crowd of Jews demanded that Pontius Pilate execute Jesus, even choosing his execution over a murderer's.
@THEOZZY The opposite is the truth, Islam invaded Israel and built the dome of the rock in Jerusalem to warn Christians as Jerusalem was cared for by the Christians. Islamic nations have warred against Israel since 1948, attacking Israel almost daily for 60 years. Muslims lie, hate and kill due to their faith and that makes Islam evil.
God stands on the side of Israel and too bad for you Muslims, for the Jews remain God's chosen people.
1st Corinthians 1:19-21- For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent. Where is the wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
Being all wise and powerful "He" would've just spoken it into written form, inlcuding humans only provides the possibility for (politically charged) error.
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is bible written by gay people? why there very few female character artists in lead role..other religions have lot of female character artists...bible only has guys guys and guys....iam sorry iam not getting the right word there must be a right word for guys guys guys religion
@TheSkirmishes While it might be true that there are few females characters in the Bible as 'lead roles', it was Mary who took the ultimate role of all bestowed upon a human being by bringing Christ into the world.
@TheSkirmishes Them being gay is a huge possibility. They probably used the Bible as a way to vent their gayness without making it too obvious, they added that "homosexuality is evil" bit to throw people off.....you know, like Clay Aiken having a baby, it never really works though, we find out....we always do.
Today Bible you see is written by man from different places around the world. Bible from different country will differ. The original bible from god is modified and misused. Al-QURAN is the last book from God. Which is still unchanged till 1400 years and will be unchanged. Just compare with any copy of Quran with any old or new or any country;s Quran. Yes they are same. Muslim memorize the whole Book. Can you imagine? Quran is last book from the God for last day of this earth. so read that.
I finished reading the bible, man it was boring, and stupid. What surprised me was how obsessive it is about sexuality. It's all about sex, the whole way through. Pathetic.
@astroboomboy Right now the Bible you see is written by man from different places around the world. Bible from different country will differ.The original bible from god is modified and misused. Al-QURAN is the last book from God. Which is still unchanged till 1400 years and will be unchanged.Just compare with any copy of Quran with any old or new or any country;s Quran. Yes they are same. Muslim memorize the whole Book. Can you imagine?Read Quran ,then kindly tell here .Dont feel shame to read.
@knight0519 Ok, I will read the quran, but from the little that I have read I find the book to be very badly written (maybe it's the english translation), and I also think it is a book with very bad morals. I mean, the first three chapters deal with the evil non-believers. And there is also an obsession with sexuality as well. But I will read the rest tonight with an open mind.
@astroboomboy Just make sure your translated Quran is right , so better read this english version which is more accurate , If you get confusion over any line, like "kill the man" try to catch the perspective also. Sometimes it describe about the war that occurred in the past. Some people misquote with that. The best english translate you can find here quran.com
@knight0519 Yes, I am reading from quran.com. So that is a good translation? It is very badly written though, it would be very good it the quran was translated in a more modern English. But I will read it. Thanks for the suggestions!
@Jantv81 I've read both the old and new testament. I read the new testament a few years back, and the old recently. We had to read the new testament in school, chapter by chapter, throughout three years, so all of my classmates know it fairly well.
@astroboomboy are you sure or are you just reading only several parts w/ sex in it? 'cause i don't think that's the case, considering that i'm a bible reader myself and as far as i can remember, genesis and only selected stories in the bible like king david has sex as a part of the discussion and the rest are the words of the prophets and christ himself.
@kyouya134 What? Have we been reading different kinds of bibles? What about Sodom and Gomorra, what about the guy that gives his daughters to be raped, what about Lot that has sex with his own daughters, Jacob, all the stories about how to masturbate, etc.
@kyouya134 I just don't get the bible or quran. They are supposed to be books from god. A book from god should not be written that way, with so many inconsistencies, stupid moral stories, and such a depraved look at sexuality. If I followed such ideas my life would become terrible.
Damn bequiffers they keep queefing stuff on us.
jmitterii2 17 hours ago
God wrote it...
rolin600 4 days ago
fuck islam
dirtywhores4cash 6 days ago
@dirtywhores4cash What the hell is wrong with you, there was not any mention of Islam in this, it was talking about the authenticity of the Bible, are you retarded?
hussainyahussain1 3 days ago
its been told that the devil will have his tricks and people will not only not believe but be repelled and distraught at the sight of the Word. Soon Faith will seem like a burned, and to believe will be live a life of hardship
someone said we don't need a God we have science, but science never says God doesnt exist, science is about using theories and when 1 is disproved another comes until it seems right. science keeps being rewritten and in 100 years everything we now know could be gone
AlexiusMoore 1 week ago
@AlexiusMoore yes religion does attack us, there are people who want creationism to be in our science classes, and want to teach people things that we now know are not true, and yes, big bang created the universe
RedStarBelgradefan 1 week ago
@RedStarBelgradefan You call that attacking? wow
U so sure about the Big Bang, do u even know what it is. Do u realize that scientists themselves are not convinced by the Big Bang, and there about 100 different theories on the creation of the Universe but yet u just hop on the bandwagon and expect everyone to be as ignorant as u
If you know anthing about science, u would know that nothing is known for sure.
AlexiusMoore 6 days ago
@AlexiusMoore they are sure about the big bang, we have very good evidence for that, and it is attacking if you want to teach my child lies in school, its science not a bandwagon, and i am not ignorant, i change my opinion when i see evidence, the main reason why i dont believe in fairytales and gods
RedStarBelgradefan 6 days ago
@RedStarBelgradefan Believe what u want... but your comment about scientists "being sure about the Big Bang" shows your lack of knowledge in the field.
We have no real evidence for the Big Bang, because scientists dont even know what it really was, do some research and dont talk about things you do not know
AlexiusMoore 6 days ago
@AlexiusMoore no, you dont know, read some books from from lawrence krauss in which he explains how the universe could come from literally nothing, and how the big bang happend and our evidence for it and then tell me that we have no evidence for it
RedStarBelgradefan 6 days ago
@RedStarBelgradefan i watched one of his seminars, so yea i know about him.
He explains how the Universe COULD come from nothing, not DID.
I could explain how a dog COULD give birth to a chimpanzee, but it happening in real life is totally different thing.
Again he has no evidence only theories and Ideas, tho he is very interesting, i guess that was enough for u
He was right on one thing
Krauss says man was made from stardust,
as it says man came from dust in the Bible
AlexiusMoore 6 days ago
@AlexiusMoore yes bible also speaks of slavery, killing innocente people and that people were made in a day and that a lot more crazy stuff, and a dog could give birth to a chimpanzee only in a bible maybe or a similiar fairytale
RedStarBelgradefan 6 days ago
@RedStarBelgradefan The world was made in periods of time. why talk about something uv never even bothered to read?
Believing that the Universe was made out of nothing, at random completely by accident. and that life just appeared out of no where and evolved from nothing into complex beings is equivalant to a house being built completely at random out of nothing and by accident and people inside just evolved from absolatly nothing. dont see that very much these days do u?
AlexiusMoore 6 days ago
@AlexiusMoore no its not that like that, universe has hundreds of billions of planets stars and galaxies, there were good chances that life will happen eventually, and i did read some bits of the bible and the old testament and if you believe in that obviosly made up story then i really dont know what to say
RedStarBelgradefan 6 days ago
@RedStarBelgradefan life doesn't just appear out of no where, even if there are gazillian billion plannets like Earth. life doesnt pop out of nowhere...
Anyway this is pointless, don't even know why were arguing its not gonna accomplish anything
AlexiusMoore 6 days ago
@AlexiusMoore exactly life doesn't just pop up out of nowhere, he is made gradually by natural selection
RedStarBelgradefan 6 days ago
@RedStarBelgradefan Natural selection is to do with how, species adapt due to their enviroment, not how life began..
Anyway, it's pointless to argue. were not gonna get anywhere.
AlexiusMoore 6 days ago
@AlexiusMoore well we dont know how life began and probably will never know
RedStarBelgradefan 6 days ago
@RedStarBelgradefan Yes, we will never know, we can believe or think, or theories but will never know,
AlexiusMoore 6 days ago
@AlexiusMoore yes but believing without evidence will get you nowhere :D
RedStarBelgradefan 6 days ago
@RedStarBelgradefan It will bring you closer to God, if he exists ; )
Believing without evidence led Columbus to America.
AlexiusMoore 6 days ago
@AlexiusMoore @AlexiusMoore That is not true... cc knew that the earth was round... he and many others before him knew it. Believing without evidence is suicide.
valleart 2 days ago
@valleart emm he didnt know anything for sure.
No one ever went around the world at Columbus's Time so Columbus didn't know anything, he believed.
"Believing without evidence is suicide" just shows that u cannot believe in anything that isnt right infront of your face
AlexiusMoore 2 days ago
Was put together in year 325 at the Council of Nicea (google it for information) as ordered by the Roman Emperor Constantine. Written by men, not God. For enlightenment, visit Deism dot com to learn to know God through nature and your God-given ability to reason.
TexasCatMom6760 1 week ago
@TexasCatMom6760 lol. God = Fake. bye bye.
MJFAN666 1 week ago
@MJFAN666 You can't say God/Divine Being doesn't exist! Something create something in this world and universe and it didn't just happened that way!
SBPS20002 1 week ago
@SBPS20002 What created your God, then? Classical Fallacy on your part, good sir!
MJFAN666 1 week ago
@MJFAN666 If your a Atheist, I am not going to ask why you became it because they are reasons why people don't believe their is a divine being. Something create law of the universe.
SBPS20002 1 week ago
@MJFAN666 Some say is God or a Divine Being and some don't know and say it happened after the big bang. Things don't just happen there are reason for it to happen.
SBPS20002 1 week ago
@SBPS20002 ofcourse, and how did your god create himself then
RedStarBelgradefan 1 week ago
@RedStarBelgradefan Don't be rude. I am not a radical Christian! I understand most Christians are not really good at all but it doesn't mean there isn't a divine being that create us and the universe! I have Hindu, Muslim, and Christian families and we all get along because we blood related! I understand the Bible is very "interesting" book because contradict itself a lot but doesn't rule out something create us!
SBPS20002 1 week ago
@RedStarBelgradefan That part is a mystery.
But something created the universe, And to think it happened completely at random and just created itself out of nowhere, defies the laws of logic, nature and science
Atheists always make me chukkle their so antaganized by religion, i mean if u dont believe than fine but you all act like religion is attacking u. if i throu Holy water at u , u would roll on the floor screaming
AlexiusMoore 1 week ago
lmao sex in the bible xD hahaha
thedaver500 2 weeks ago
Why do people still believe in an all-powerful magic man in the sky? Our Stone Age ancestors needed him to explain what they didn't understand. We have science for that. Most deeply religious people are of the same faith as their parents. They have been brainwashed since childhood to believe this drivel.
mike112769 3 weeks ago
@mike112769 That's so true.
they just created religions to start wars.
I mean just look at those stupid religious people only arguing and talking nonsense shit.
LucdDream 2 weeks ago
@mike112769 that's true. Also don't forget how brainwashed the rest of society is by materialism and certain aspects of mainstream science. One must be TOTALLY deprogrammed to see the truth, not just religiously.
cr0uchingtiger 2 weeks ago
this is so confusing! smh?
Presidentosman95 3 weeks ago
an asshole; that's who wrote the bible the prick set the world in a crash curse, people who have delusions of grandeur, a guilty conscience , and a commode for a soul believe in this trash and kill,destroy and slave their brothers and sisters in the name of a deity, and then seek shelter from their guilt.
nyfootballgiants1 3 weeks ago
You now how masons (I bet its someone else HIGHER doing this) love to put stuff in everything?
They need to make a movie or a video game like that tv show DAYS OF OUR LIVES (no Im not homo and dont watch it) how it has stories of MULTIPLE people in same "universe" and they all meet up with each other some how? A movie or video game of "something" about ESCAPING something or SURVIVING it LOL.
I forgot what I wanted it to be about but make it into metaphors, ALIEN invasion or something.
DarkPrinceNH5570 3 weeks ago
@DarkPrinceNH5570 All these people have issues or found out about something thanks to ONE individual. And this one individual is very special and was waiting for a certain woman in some city. These other people were going thru their own drama and were trying to leave. As for this INDIVIDUAL he leaves with her and some how they all meet up some where. ZOMBIE apocalypse or ALIEN INVASION?
He is brought to the EYE of everything and is briefed with "others" that he never met before about stuff.
DarkPrinceNH5570 3 weeks ago
@DarkPrinceNH5570 After being briefed about something from someone HIGH UP, this INDIVIDUAL and these other KNIGHTs are all in unform but dressed as monks (robes) except him.
I wish...
DarkPrinceNH5570 3 weeks ago
@DarkPrinceNH5570 He is brought to a room and given his MERIT/AWARDS for excellence and ID for this "Knighthood" and sword.
Given a uniform and weapons too and everything he ever wanted through these Guardians. Giant statue of a SNAKE wrapped around a sword as a statue with SIGILLV MILITVMI XPISTI on it? That sound right?
DarkPrinceNH5570 3 weeks ago
@DarkPrinceNH5570 *listening to Resident Evil Sound Track theme song*
DarkPrinceNH5570 3 weeks ago
You now how masons (I bet its someone else HIGHER doing this) love to put stuff in everything?
They need to make a movie or a video game like that tv show DAYS OF OUR LIVES (no Im not homo and dont watch it) how it has stories of MULTIPLE people in same "universe" and they all meet up with each other some how? A movie or video game of "something" about ESCAPING something or SURVIVING it LOL.
DarkPrinceNH5570 3 weeks ago
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You now how masons (I bet its someone else HIGHER doing this) love to put stuff in everything?
They need to make a movie or a video game like that tv show DAYS OF OUR LIVES (no Im not homo and dont watch it) how it has stories of MULTIPLE people in same "universe" and they all meet up with each other some how? A movie or video game of "something" about ESCAPING something or SURVIVING it LOL.
I forgot what I wanted it to be about but make it into metaphors, ALIEN invasion or something.
DarkPrinceNH5570 3 weeks ago
You now how masons (I bet its someone else HIGHER doing this) love to put stuff in everything?
They need to make a movie or a video game like that tv show DAYS OF OUR LIVES (no Im not homo and dont watch it) how it has stories of MULTIPLE people in same "universe" and they all meet up with each other some how? A movie or video game of "something" about ESCAPING something or SURVIVING it LOL.
I forgot what I wanted it to be about but make it into metaphors, ALIEN invasion or something.
DarkPrinceNH5570 3 weeks ago
You now how masons (I bet its someone else HIGHER doing this) love to put stuff in everything?
They need to make a movie or a video game like that tv show DAYS OF OUR LIVES (no Im not homo and dont watch it) how it has stories of MULTIPLE people in same "universe" and they all meet up with each other some how? A movie or video game of "something" about ESCAPING something or SURVIVING it LOL.
I forgot what I wanted it to be about but make it into metaphors, ALIEN invasion or something.
DarkPrinceNH5570 3 weeks ago
Watch a war breakout between Christans vs masons. And the people who read the Quaran join up with Christians haha. Im going to laugh if this happens. Im joining up with the REAL Christians.
DarkPrinceNH5570 3 weeks ago
Dont watch any of this crap but some sources are "in a way" REAL.
The Bible is real. It does promote a TRUE reading of BIBLICAL HISTORY. Quran is the same. The other religions like Judiasm is related to the bible too. Combine all the HISTORIES together you get what?
The only religions I was curious about was the CIRCLE religions (symbols). Hindu/Buddists (swastika, yin yang and so on, theres others).
usa as in scientology and mormonism isnt part of this CHRISTIAN thing. They are masons
DarkPrinceNH5570 3 weeks ago
Dont watch any of this crap but some sources are "in a way" REAL.
The Bible is real. It does promote a TRUE reading of BIBLICAL HISTORY. Quran is the same. The other religions like Judiasm is related to the bible too. Combine all the HISTORIES together you get what?
The only religions I was curious about was the CIRCLE religions (symbols). Hindu/Buddists (swastika, yin yang and so on, theres others).
usa as in scientology and mormonism isnt part of this CHRISTIAN thing. They are masons
DarkPrinceNH5570 3 weeks ago
After watchin this, i am interested in the quran, which hasn't been changed by men.
HazardExtreme 3 weeks ago
The people who call the Bible dumb are showing true ignorance. People its a book of faith not a book of history and science. That is the major difference, and if people believe in it, well one must respect such belief. Disrespecting beliefs is a major fault in all the world and the causation of war. If you consider yourself so knowledgeable, then you would know such intolerance is mere ignorance. Respect can take us a long way.
GrandLordBaradar 3 weeks ago
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JoyofSatan(dot)com CHRISTIANITY EXPOSED AS FALSE AT THIS LINK. SATAN PROVEN TO BE OUR REAL CREATOR GOD THROUGH GENETIC ENGINEERING.
ClothesOptional 3 weeks ago
the bible is dumb. it says god created a man and a woman, OK. they had a sex - a child was born, OK. and then what? they had sex again and both their children had sex after a few years?
VoidMuffin 3 weeks ago
I throw away my student bible away to the garbeg.
monyeyou 4 weeks ago
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this book seems a bit dodgy but there's a new book in town. Its gods final revelation to mankind and its called the quran, read it and see if it makes sense guys.
malitrueblue1 1 month ago
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malitrueblue1 1 month ago
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The irony of the bible is the fact that lies and deception through forgeries and other means have historically been used to establish the "truth."
jassensmoot 1 month ago in playlist Who Wrote the Bible
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For love is joy, and happiness. Through sadness comes love, and through love comes joy, and happiness. The love has been given, Jesus. Don't let it pass you, love is patient. It is waiting for you, God is waiting.
Through God comes a love that will never end, and through that love, that comes from God comes a true joy, and a happiness that will always be forever because it comes from God.
forloveISjoyANDhappi 1 month ago
dead sea scrolls check them out folks.
badshaneTX 1 month ago
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repent ye, men of the heathen ... If your brain is not even visible to you .. what God is one .. the statue. trees and others .. can not do anything .. god will help you if you are in pain .. orphans .. repent .. and pleased with him .. god had no children .. if he has children .. Destroyed the world because of their differences .. gods of the Day of Judgement .. Judgement is the secret .. people have no right to know .. unless the time has come .. islam for all .. pray for god .. amen ..الله .
eylalove 1 month ago
Sex in the bible. Sounds a bit more enticing. ;)
AfterClassTrip 1 month ago
Hey guys don't fret anything, religion is gonna be scarce. We're evolving. That's nature, and if there is one thing more complete than the idea of god, it's nature.
As soon as religion is no longer an imposition, we can work towards what humanity has ever wanted, peace.
WaleedDaGreat 1 month ago 2
@WaleedDaGreat Evolving to what? People get fatter and retarded by the minute watching american idol and eating burgers. You should never want religion, instead build a relationship with a living God/Jesus the creator of the universe.
notleftbehind 4 weeks ago
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finally check mate religion, mauro biglino, a former translater for the vatican, has translated the original old testament without bastardizing it, like the one you guys read which is from around 700ad.
your god is fake (in a way lol) and the original writings from YOUR book prove it.
nothing you say can change what has been translated, you have been lied to.
thumbs up so all religious people with an ounce of intellect can see for themselves
TehFoo1 1 month ago
imagine if you went into stasis for 2000 years and found a religion built around fiction like HG Wells novel War of the Worlds and other books with a first person narrative.
ganados0 1 month ago
to @Jantv81 and all others like this sperm ... go find your own universe.. what a pity, a man without god
willyb55 1 month ago
Who could read and write in them days?The Rich. The Poor ppl could not read,THINK.Poor ppl could not read 150 years ago,let alone 2000 years ago.
freethinker000 1 month ago
jesus did not write the bible
the christian book is the new testament, the first writer for this was a man named st paul
paul began today's christianity not jesus...according to christians jesus was a jew sent for israel
paul was a killer & his victims were actually the followers of jesus. eventually he began this new sect to rival them
TheEnforcer357 1 month ago
@TheEnforcer357 You forgot to add Moses to the list of murdering pieces of crap. Read Numbers Chapter 31. The tribute of "persons" Moses had slaughtered was 30,000 people on the LORD's command, see verse 40. Jehovah even specifically said to slaughter "little ones" (children) and rape the daughters. Anyone who thinks Yahweh/Jehovah is a peaceful loving god is delusional. The genocide of 30,000 men, women, and children is only one of the filthy stories contained in the bible.
LordEnkiMinecraft 1 month ago
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2 Timothy {3:16} All scripture [is] given by INSPIRATION of God
Quran 3:108 These are revelations of Allah. We RECITE UNTO THEE in truth. Allah willeth no injustice to (His) creatures.
Quran is the DICTATION of Allah. Meaning, no one is RESPONSIBLE for these words except that who DICTATED the words as the DICTATED WORDS are his
But when words are INSPIRED by someone or some event, like invitation to a dinner, then writer is the SOLE RESPONSIBLE for the INSPIRED words as they are NOT dictated
JesusChristMuslim 1 month ago
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The Qura'an is pure holy words from God himself , but Bible was changed by humans some words added and some were deleted thats why alot of books been created from one book the real holy book isn't existed any more , is gone , and so another book came that is from God is the Qura'an the,, the truth is Bible is just people poems
SuperPoorthing 1 month ago
God its eternal.....His son was there from the beginning.
So this means that the son of God is the Lord cause it was ordain it long time ago.
So this means the son of God is the Lord,not cause the Bible says so.But the son of God is the Lord cause ever since ancestral times.
TOLTECAAZTECA 1 month ago
@TOLTECAAZTECA
"In no text do we find any connected history of the god, and nowhere are stated in detail the reasons why he assumed his exalted position as the JUDGE OF SOULS. or why, FOR FOUR THOUSAND YEARS, HE REMAINED THE GREAT TYPE AND SYMBOL OF THE ....R.E.S.U.R.R.E.C.T.I.O.N."
EA WALLIS BUDGE
'OSIRIS AND THE EGYPTIAN RESURRECTION' (Chapt. 1, pg. 1, 1st paragraph)
Publ. 1911
TheTimeforwar 1 month ago in playlist Who Wrote the Bible
@TheTimeforwar maybe soon but Don't worry as you learn more, you will understand that no all ideologies benefit humankind such as Islam that oppresses even its own followers.Are these books "dead", THE BOOK OF THE DEAD,THE PYRAMID TEXTS, AND THE BOOKS OF THOTH. Are they not interesting and do you learn from them?
Jesus remains active and present in all humankind but unfortunately, Muhammad did once live, leaving behind an ideology of war against true and ancient knowledge.
BonjourNuit120 1 month ago
@BonjourNuit120
No these books R not 'dead'. 'Book of the Dead' is not the actual/correct name of the book. Immigrant Arabs of Egypt called it such as the literature was found buried w. the ancient sarcophagi of Egypt. That would make the Bible a 'Book of the Dead' since it can also be found inside of countless buried coffins. Does that make that is it's name? No. And neither is it the correct name of the Egyptian Bible. It's called the 'Prt Em Hru.'
'Coming forth into Heaven'
TheTimeforwar 1 month ago
Coming forth into Heaven sounds important to the Ancients.There has always been one God who has been with all People throughout time and throughout all realms of existence. If you eat foods from all over the world, do you consider it plagiarism? Knowledge of coming forth into Heaven was important then as it is important now. The Bible contains knowledge of the coming forth of Heaven and Heaven is awareness of God's presence in your life
BonjourNuit120 1 month ago
@BonjourNuit120
Jesus is active only in the minds of those who are historically illiterate and don't know any better.
TheTimeforwar 1 month ago
@TheTimeforwar WHAT????
TOLTECAAZTECA 1 month ago
There is no dispute over if Jesus Christ actually walked the Earth. That much has been proven, even scientists believe that. Whether or not he was who he claimed to be has not been proven. BUT I believe it. I believe in the Bible, I believe in Jesus and Satan. I have not always believed it. I was athiest up until i was 17 years old. If you don't believe in it, then that's your opinion, there is no need for any of you to fight over this. If you believe, BELIEVE. If you don't, then don't.
666pounder27 1 month ago
@666pounder27 "There is no dispute over if Jesus Christ actually walked the Earth. That much has been proven..." There is dispute, and nothing has been proven.
tigranvartanovitch 1 month ago
@tigranvartanovitch
"The original foundational matter of the Mosaic writings is not, was not, historical at all, but ENTIRELY MYTHICAL.....The myths of EGYPT will be found to have been C.O.P.I.E.D. and R.E.P.R.O.D.U.C.E.D. THE HEBREWS T.O.O.K. THEM FROM THE E.G.Y.P.T.I.A.N.S., with other stolen goods, and were UNABLE or DID NOT CHOOSE to render a T.R.U.E. a.c.c.o.u.n.t. of them."
Gerald Massey
EGYPT LIGHT OF THE WORLD 1907
TheTimeforwar 1 month ago in playlist Who Wrote the Bible
@666pounder27
What are you smoking? There is a humongous dispute as to whether of not Jesus walked the earth and the overwhelming evidence is that he did not.
TheTimeforwar 1 month ago in playlist Who Wrote the Bible
@TheTime If you love ancient knowledge such as ancient civilizations such as Sumer, Egypt that influenced the world by its high maths. Perhaps you are interested in reincarnation, astral travel, space travel, other worlds, ancient civilizations. The Evidence that God came as Jesus is given to those who ask for the Holy Spirit, for many people, seeing is believing. It boggles my mind that you say Abraham, Jesus and Muhammad never lived yet you quote ancient books that predate them
BonjourNuit120 1 month ago
@BonjourNuit120
I quote Ancient Books that predate the manufactured story of 'Abraham' Jesus and Muhammad because those ancient texts are the sources upon which the manufactured story of Abraham is based. The religion of 'God, salvation and resurrection' was the religion of Ancient Egypt stolen and plagiarized by both Greece and Rome. The 'Hebrew' story is a much later manufactured 'religious smoke screen'.
TheTimeforwar 1 month ago
@TheTimeforwar Abraham lived in Canaan where he learned his religious traditions. They worshiped the supreme god El, and also Baal (Hadad). YHWH's consort is Asherah which just so happened to be the consort of El and Baal. Now we know who the god of the bible really is...Baal.
LordEnkiMinecraft 1 month ago
Samuel Jackson Pontiac commercial?
Virgofenix 1 month ago
The Bible was written over the course of over a thousand years yet, it flows with consistency. The Bible remains the word of God. We don't need Islamic approval for God reveals in the Bible God's plans for all our world. God desires that all people experience God so that the world can be restored to paradise which is oneness with God. God desires those who love him, to reflect compassion towards others. Those who do not, are not of God but of Satan.
BonjourNuit120 1 month ago
@BonjourNuit120
"The WHOLE Christian Bible was derived from the sacred books of Egypt, such as: THE BOOK OF THE DEAD,THE PYRAMID TEXTS, AND THE BOOKS OF THOTH." EA Wallis Budge (Keeper of the Egyptian and Assyrian Antiquities at the British Museum)
TheTimeforwar 1 month ago
@BonjourNuit120 You show that you have not actually read more then a few versus of the bible, because anyone who has read it thoroughly would never say "It flows with consistency". That is what people say who are parroting there spiritual leaders. Actually read it really read it then come back in a month or so and tell us if you still feel it is consistent.
robtay1963 4 weeks ago
@robtay1963 The Bible is consistent in its prophecies that God continues to fulfill to this day. God describes His enemies to be the Islamic nations as they are the enemies of Israel: Psalms 83:3-9, Zechariah 12:9-10, Rev.20-10.
These are the End Times in which Islam the Antichrist (1 John 2:22 versus S9:30) will play a major role in its own destruction.This promise by God is consistent in the Bible.
It is you who parrots the lies of your leaders who are anything but spiritual
BonjourNuit120 3 weeks ago
@BonjourNuit120 Aside from elected officials of this country whom make our laws, I don't have any leaders. I was a christian and have read a great deal of the bible. I still read it often. I learn from others such as scientist and those who are more versed in subjects then I am. I just find no truth in the bible anymore. I have learned to much and could never go back to believing in an Invisible, Megalomaniac all powerful being who needs our worship so bad he is willing to torture us to get it
robtay1963 3 weeks ago
@robtay1963 a) You are right to reject an invisible God who tortures to get us to worship Him for such a God does not exist. Moreover,it is good that you continue to pursue knowledge for in the end you will discover that the greatest Truth is God who is in You. From ancient times, God desired to end all forms of human suffering but People resisted knowing God is with them to guide them out of hell into Heaven.Prophecy proclaims a time will come when all People will experience God
BonjourNuit120 3 weeks ago
@BonjourNuit120 I have read all of your statements and though they do not change my mind about God, they do show that not all christians are Bible literallists. And your points are well taken. Once I was a christian and I read more of the bible then I had ever read and I started seeking answers in science. Can I prove there is no god? No I can not. I say this if I am wrong and there is a god and he is just in his judgment the he will not torture good people for not accepting what they can't see
robtay1963 3 weeks ago
@robtay1963 Although Science is important, it does not have all the answers to our question for science like religion has people who use or misuse their badge of authority which misguides people. Had you been given a clear understanding of Jesus' teachings, you would never have left the faith. Recall Christians especially their teachers were persecuted by the Romans for the first 325 years then the Roman persecutors adopted Christianity but maintained their oppressive ways
BonjourNuit120 3 weeks ago
@robtay1963 I understand how you feel as I use to feel that way. God is all there is in and all people are part of God. God desired People to invite Him into their awareness which would end their fear, sufferings and it would transform them into Joyful, compassionate, innovative and peaceful people. Even Science if it understood all that it has ever studied has been God and if Science workers knew God would assist them in all their endeavors then it would be a better world for all
BonjourNuit120 3 weeks ago
@robtay1963 The Bible contains history as Israel was/is a tiny piece of land surrounded by hostile Egypt, Assyria, Babylonia and Israel had experienced constant invasions. The Jews recorded wars as wars are. The Jews in turn developed a hardened heart or wounded heart which they then projected onto God but God is not an oppressor rather God is love personified as Jesus.
Whether you believe in God or not, God remains with you to love and to guide you and God accepts you as you are
BonjourNuit120 3 weeks ago
@robtay1963 Part of my research is on human suffering. God does not torture good or bad people for not accepting what they can't see. There is no greater experience in life than experiencing awareness of God who is with you. God reveals His true nature which is loving,understanding and always ultra modern. You have every right to reject the violence in the Bible but that violence does not come from God but from people who merely believe in God but they do not experience God
BonjourNuit120 3 weeks ago
@robtay1963 I believe you are a kind and loving person who goes out of your way to help others which is ironic because God is also kind and loving, who goes out of His way to help people. Hell is war, poverty, crimes, or all forms of human suffering but Hell is also not knowing God is with you. God convinces best of His own realism but He does not impose Himself upon People. That you do not believe in God, is because you do not believe in hatred, violence when these are not from God.
BonjourNuit120 3 weeks ago
@BonjourNuit120 If there is a place of suffering and he sends good people there who's only sin was not finding enough evidence to believe in him then I would not want to be part of his world anyway.I don't believe in the Biblical god, and I doubt the existence of any god,but by my nature I obey the commandments that don't pertain to worshiping god, and I am a very kind loving person who goes out of my way to help others just because it feels good. If your god is good I will be judged by my heart
robtay1963 3 weeks ago
@robtay1963 b) The Bible is difficult to understand because it was in Hebrew, Greek, Latin then hastily translated by men who were never linguistic experts. God remains real and the Bible remains the word of God by its prophecies, but God is not an oppressor. God is with all People on earth and guides them whether they believe in Him or not. Proof is all People have intuition, also proof that God is consistently compassionate is in the accounts of Life after Death.
BonjourNuit120 3 weeks ago
@robtay1963 I want to make it clear that I am not trying to impose upon you that you should believe in the God of the Bible but God is not a punishing God. People who suffer often blame God which is evident throughout much of the Bible. Instead People failed to take responsibility for not listening to the way God communicates with all humankind through their intuitive sense. Throughout all time, God desired to restore people to the knowledge God loves and guides through intuition
BonjourNuit120 3 weeks ago
@robtay1963 It is good you are honest. It is better to question everything you read, I hope you will always do that.
Even so, you haven't yet learnt to distinguish what is from people and what is from God. All that is truth, all that is good is from God. People are responsible for all human suffering yet It would be heaven on earth for all people, if they understood God is with them to guide them away from suffering through our intuitive sense.
BonjourNuit120 3 weeks ago
@BonjourNuit120 Which God, If you really read the OT and study it's stories to learn they are just legends from other cultures told and retold and altered from generation to generation, and not a running Diary handed down from Adam to Noah to Mosses to Joshua. then you will know it is not true. Next it if is not true then the whole foundation for the Christian church, Jesus dying for Adams sin, makes no sense. If you feel the need for a god then will feel god, but it is not god it is inside you.
robtay1963 3 weeks ago
@BonjourNuit120 Continued, torture us to get our devotion, yet can not simply show up on earth in modern times when we could verify it was god. But aside from that even if he did and it was the god of the KJV and the bible were all pure fact, I would not worship him, I would rather take my chances in Hell...As I said I have read the bible and the whole chapters so no chance of taking out of text. Through out OT god orders death of children, innocents, women, and kidnapping of teenage virgins.
robtay1963 3 weeks ago
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@robtay1963 Don't use bible versus against me. I am not going to believe 40 nice versus and a few about end times in a book so full of evil done by and ordered by a pretend god. Bible was written when most men could not read so the priest could just read the read the versus they wanted people to hear. I believe that though most people can read now they just choose to believe there Leaders instead of actually reading on there own, cause that is what i did and now I use logic and reason n science
robtay1963 3 weeks ago
@robtay1963 I understand how you feel about the violence/history in the Bible. Man often projected his own evil ways onto God. It is humankind that oppresses, deceives, and wars against those who differ in any way whereas God is with and in all humankind to guide them out of hell.
The Church is not a reflection of God's love for us and science use to be part of the church but the church persecuted those who differed in belief so science broke off from the church to become atheist
BonjourNuit120 3 weeks ago
@robtay1963 c) It is written that God calls all the prophets liars and God says a day will come when all people will know Him. God came as Jesus (Isaiah 35:3-8) to reveal his compassionate nature in order for us not to fear the fact that God is in us (John 14-20).
For God offered us awareness of His Loving Presence or Holy Spirit. This knowledge became lost due to the constant persecution of the first Christians in which the Apostles and then teachers were the ones first killed
BonjourNuit120 3 weeks ago
@BonjourNuit120 And last but not least the severe historical inaccuracies of the KJV, it is as full of holes as the story's of the Gods of Olympus..here are a just a few versus, if you or ok with this god then you are sick.Judges 21:10-24 verse 12 implies rape, Deut 20:10-14, 22:28-29, 21:10-14, Exodus:21:7-11, Zechariah 14:12 Judges11: 30-39, Genesis 38:24, 19:34-38, Joshua 6:19-25,Jeremiah 19:9, Leviticus 21:9, 26:29, Exodus 12:29-30, 21:20-21, Ephesians 5:22-24, Zechariah 14:1-2,Psalms 137:
robtay1963 3 weeks ago
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robtay1963 3 weeks ago
War has always existed as part of our painful history. In almost every war and even outside of war, babies were and continue to be dashed to pieces. For ours is a loveless world. When God came as Jesus, he healed a violently insane man and God can do this for all the world. God who is with every person on earth does not impose Himself upon anyone, despite we are all part of God and God is in all of us. Ask for His Holy Spirit and you will be given awareness of His Loving realism
BonjourNuit120 3 weeks ago
@robtay I understand how you feel about the Bible because I too reacted the same way, and it took me years to differentiate between what God is actually like and what man projected onto God. Just like the church differs greatly as to how Jesus is. The Church kept Jesus nailed to the cross rather that teach that God is in us to love and to guide us away from illusions and sufferings into paradise or oneness with God. One day the world will know God and the world will know God is love
BonjourNuit120 3 weeks ago
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If God had really written the Bible, it would have gotten some decent results by now.
eastariel 1 month ago
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plptous 1 month ago
Ive read in the Gospel of Mary that Mary was born by her virgin mother. Now that's just nuts. No wonder the Vatican didn't include that book. We would have noticed that the Church is just fukcing with us.
chrissanne14344 1 month ago
If those stories in the bible are fake than who would have the mind to makeup all of those stories. I mean if they are so easy than you try making a story in the bible.
motagabe1 2 months ago
@motagabe1 Lol, biblical stories have terrible morals if any at all. Not to mention the massive amounts of contradictions. I mean, just because Animal Farm is an amazing story with unbelievably creative political metaphors, doesn't mean that George Orwell was "divinely inspired".
Jackbar52 1 month ago
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God doesn't write with words. God writes with creations.
Words are for people to connect and co-create.
eastariel 2 months ago
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If the Bible's such a great book, then why does it have to be interpreted by an "expert" in order to make sense? Is God that bad of a writer?
eastariel 2 months ago
IT WAS WRITTEN BY ANCIENT ALIENS!! Lol the history channel is a joke
Juillardl 2 months ago
islam sucks donkey balls. allah was nothing more than a pagan moon god who that pedophile faggot mohammed (shit be upon him) decided to create a religion around. muslims are all terrorist cowards who should be nuked off the planet. they are worthless, much like their bullshit religion.
DLarson1083 2 months ago
@DLarson1083 which religion do u follow?
0019930418 2 months ago
Found this interesting but im guessing Isalstudios wont be as objective with the Koran :P
moroney1 2 months ago
IslamStudios overstep their bounds to use any means to attack the Bible is because Islam is war against all faiths in its quest to dominate the world. Ask who wrote the Quran, did Muhammad have the Quran in his hand when he died? What right had anyone to think they could be Muhammad's successors and to compose the Quran taken from any person and forced upon you to accept it when it is contradicts all of God's Ten Commandments,
the Bible remains as the Word of God, only Islam is not from God
BonjourNuit120 2 months ago
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SMLIPRT 1 month ago
Muhammad never had the Quran in his hand when he died and what right were his companions to believe in succession when prophet hood has no succession except when God told Abraham that God chose not Ishmael but Isaac to carry as everlasting the covenant which means Muhammad Never was God's prophet rather he used God to do evil and to invent a religion of war against true believers of the one true God.
No wonder wonder Islam is the Antichrist and thank God will destroy Islam
BonjourNuit120 1 month ago
@BonjourNuit <----------- Speaking of the devil..wow. Instead of talking nonsense about Islam, why dont you disprove this video? Its not the Quran they are talking about, are they? Your comments contradict itself, just like your Bible. You have no respect for our prophet that is understandable, but what is worst is that you have no respect for any prophet. Do you know what Ismael means..."God hears"...its in your own Bible...He was a prophet and son of Abraham(pbuh). Open ur eyes
SMLIPRT 1 month ago
God told Abraham that God chose Isaac to carry as everlasting the covenant which is the prophetic line Genesis 17:19 and that one passage is all one needs to know that Muhammad, Ishmael were never prophets of God. You are able to define Ishmael's name which proves you overlook what debunks Islam itself.
Sunnies and Shiites kill each other by the thousands because of succession when no succession exists as only Jews were chosen by God to be prophets.
Take your own advice,Open your eyes
BonjourNuit120 1 month ago
@BonjourNuit120 hey there's my name Ishmael yay ^ ^
gmael1234567890 1 month ago
@gmael1234567890
who cares?
TheTimeforwar 1 month ago in playlist Who Wrote the Bible
@TheTimeforwar I CARE
gmael1234567890 1 month ago
@BonjourNuit120
God didn't tell Abraham anything ...because Abraham never existed.
TheTimeforwar 1 month ago
SMLIPRT you don't the difference between truth and deception,light and darkness, God and Satan. Only the Quran has Allah praying and praising Muhammad,only the Quran has Muhammad accusing God of beheading infidels, only the Quran has demons praising the Quran sura 72 when demons are liars. Satan is not a stone you throw rocks at, Satan is Lies, hatred, violence, abduction using bribes such as spoils and female slaves that are added before God. Islam is the antichrist thus from satan
BonjourNuit120 1 month ago
@BonjourNuit120
Muhammad never existed. And neither did Jesus.
TheTimeforwar 1 month ago
when you understand that we are being manipulated by jews for countless centuries you will also understand the reason they wrote the bible
they have planned this from the beginning the bible is nothing but a book to brainwash people into being obedient and to treat jews superior
they threw in jesus to give us false hope
the god in their bible is nothing but a war god has nothing to do with the real creator of the universe
THEOZZYFUL 2 months ago
@THEOZZYFUL
A bit odd! The Jews hated Jesus.
N00bcrunch3r 2 months ago
@N00bcrunch3r You might want to brush up on your Bible-reading...JESUS WAS JEWISH!!!! So were his followers. Uninformed statements like yours seed ignorance and hatred.
observingish 2 months ago
@observingish Mary is not a virgin anymore ;)
theBartone9119 2 months ago
@observingish
Hmm...what, the Sadducees and the Pharisees weren't Jewish? I never knew that! [sarcasm] The Bible also claims that an enormous crowd of Jews demanded that Pontius Pilate execute Jesus, even choosing his execution over a murderer's.
N00bcrunch3r 2 months ago
@THEOZZY The opposite is the truth, Islam invaded Israel and built the dome of the rock in Jerusalem to warn Christians as Jerusalem was cared for by the Christians. Islamic nations have warred against Israel since 1948, attacking Israel almost daily for 60 years. Muslims lie, hate and kill due to their faith and that makes Islam evil.
God stands on the side of Israel and too bad for you Muslims, for the Jews remain God's chosen people.
Only Islam is war forcing God to fight Islam
BonjourNuit120 1 month ago
Religion sure has the market cornered on crazy!
jlltruthseeker 2 months ago
1st Corinthians 1:19-21- For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent. Where is the wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
joekingz100 2 months ago
Being all wise and powerful "He" would've just spoken it into written form, inlcuding humans only provides the possibility for (politically charged) error.
JM1993951 2 months ago
THE PSEUDO-HISTORY CHANNEL IS RUN BY GOD-HATING JEWS AND ATHEISTS. SEARCH NATHANAEL KAPNER, BENJAMIN FREEDMAN, NORMAN FINKELSTEIN, AND DAVID COLE. ANTICHRIST ZIONISM WILL BE DEFEATED! GOD LIVES, DARWIN AND MARX ARE DEAD.
JCistGottMitUns 2 months ago
@JCistGottMitUns
you mad bro
MrTheblackmessenger 2 months ago
is bible written by gay people? why there very few female character artists in lead role..other religions have lot of female character artists...bible only has guys guys and guys....iam sorry iam not getting the right word there must be a right word for guys guys guys religion
TheSkirmishes 2 months ago
@TheSkirmishes While it might be true that there are few females characters in the Bible as 'lead roles', it was Mary who took the ultimate role of all bestowed upon a human being by bringing Christ into the world.
sungmoon1987 2 months ago
@sungmoon1987 so you are saying jesus was an alien implant or something?
TheSkirmishes 2 months ago
@TheSkirmishes Them being gay is a huge possibility. They probably used the Bible as a way to vent their gayness without making it too obvious, they added that "homosexuality is evil" bit to throw people off.....you know, like Clay Aiken having a baby, it never really works though, we find out....we always do.
JM1993951 2 months ago
Today Bible you see is written by man from different places around the world. Bible from different country will differ. The original bible from god is modified and misused. Al-QURAN is the last book from God. Which is still unchanged till 1400 years and will be unchanged. Just compare with any copy of Quran with any old or new or any country;s Quran. Yes they are same. Muslim memorize the whole Book. Can you imagine? Quran is last book from the God for last day of this earth. so read that.
knight0519 2 months ago
I finished reading the bible, man it was boring, and stupid. What surprised me was how obsessive it is about sexuality. It's all about sex, the whole way through. Pathetic.
astroboomboy 2 months ago
@astroboomboy Right now the Bible you see is written by man from different places around the world. Bible from different country will differ.The original bible from god is modified and misused. Al-QURAN is the last book from God. Which is still unchanged till 1400 years and will be unchanged.Just compare with any copy of Quran with any old or new or any country;s Quran. Yes they are same. Muslim memorize the whole Book. Can you imagine?Read Quran ,then kindly tell here .Dont feel shame to read.
knight0519 2 months ago
@knight0519 Ok, I will read the quran, but from the little that I have read I find the book to be very badly written (maybe it's the english translation), and I also think it is a book with very bad morals. I mean, the first three chapters deal with the evil non-believers. And there is also an obsession with sexuality as well. But I will read the rest tonight with an open mind.
astroboomboy 2 months ago
@astroboomboy Just make sure your translated Quran is right , so better read this english version which is more accurate , If you get confusion over any line, like "kill the man" try to catch the perspective also. Sometimes it describe about the war that occurred in the past. Some people misquote with that. The best english translate you can find here quran.com
knight0519 2 months ago
@knight0519 Yes, I am reading from quran.com. So that is a good translation? It is very badly written though, it would be very good it the quran was translated in a more modern English. But I will read it. Thanks for the suggestions!
astroboomboy 2 months ago
@astroboomboy Obviously you only read the Old Testament.
Jantv81 2 months ago
@Jantv81 I've read both the old and new testament. I read the new testament a few years back, and the old recently. We had to read the new testament in school, chapter by chapter, throughout three years, so all of my classmates know it fairly well.
astroboomboy 2 months ago
@astroboomboy are you sure or are you just reading only several parts w/ sex in it? 'cause i don't think that's the case, considering that i'm a bible reader myself and as far as i can remember, genesis and only selected stories in the bible like king david has sex as a part of the discussion and the rest are the words of the prophets and christ himself.
kyouya134 2 months ago
@kyouya134 What? Have we been reading different kinds of bibles? What about Sodom and Gomorra, what about the guy that gives his daughters to be raped, what about Lot that has sex with his own daughters, Jacob, all the stories about how to masturbate, etc.
astroboomboy 2 months ago
@kyouya134 I just don't get the bible or quran. They are supposed to be books from god. A book from god should not be written that way, with so many inconsistencies, stupid moral stories, and such a depraved look at sexuality. If I followed such ideas my life would become terrible.
astroboomboy 2 months ago
@astroboomboy Your life would become terrible because you understand the bible or the quran terribly.
sungmoon1987 2 months ago