FBI Investigating ACORN for Voter Fraud

[GWhiz99]

55th Chicago mayor Rahm Israel Emanuel was born 11/29/59 on second b’day of 3rd U.S. Sec. of Homeland Security, Janet NAPoLITano. Emanuel was Barack Hussein Obama’s 1st W. H. Chief of Staff, succeeded on an interim basis by Pete Rouse. Unrelated: Jane Dee Hull preceding NAPoLITano as Arizona governor; Dee Dee Myers (b. Margaret Jane Myers) as Bill Clinton’s W.H. spokesman; Obama 2008 opponent & Keating 5 member John McCain of Arizona; Oklahoma Gov. Frank Keating (b.2/10/44); watch?v=YsJyfJ0b-WA

[GWhiz99]

55th Chicago mayor Rahm Israel Emanuel was born 11/29/59 on the second b’day of 3rd U.S. Sec. of Homeland Security, Janet NAPoLITano. Emanuel served as Barack Hussein Obama’s 1st White House Chief of Staff and was succeeded in the post on an interim basis by Pete Rouse. Unrelated: Obama’s Chicago-based “Goddamn America” pastor, Jeremiah Wright; phallic terrorism; being “LIT up” while you NAP; or watch?v=YsJyfJ0b-WA. Still, Arizona gubernatorial succession: SyMINGton, Jane Dee Hull, NAPoLITano

[GWhiz99]

55th Chicago mayor Rahm Israel Emanuel was born 11/29/59 on the second b’day of 3rd U.S. Secretary of Homeland Security, Janet NAPoLITano. Emanuel served as Barack Hussein Obama’s first White House Chief of Staff and was succeeded in the post on an interim basis by Pete Rouse. Unrelated: Obama’s Chicago-based “Goddamn America” pastor,Jeremiah Wright or Springfield’s Bart Simpson perpetually stuck in 4th grade. Springfield is the Illinois capital while NASA’s STS-46 was piloted by Andrew M. Allen

[GWhiz99]

U.S. Sen. Barack Hussein Obama teased with a “major announcement” to open ESPN’s Monday Night Football between Obama’s hometown Chicago Bears at St. Louis Rams, 12/11/06. Despite the “spaced out”, as if from a different dimension appearance of the pre-taped bit, it’s unrelated to Dr. Mae Jemison being the first black female to travel in space on NASA’s STS-47 (Endeavour, Sep. 1992). Mission commander Curtis Lee "Curt" Brown, Jr.. born MAR. 11, 1956, could evoke grandpas, if not stone cults

[GWhiz99]

Haitian-descendant, one-time Chicago-based TV journalist Roland Sebastian Martin (“Chicago Defender”, m. Rev. Jacquie HOOD) was born NOV. 14, 1968—33rd b’day of Jordan’s King Hussein. Chicago is associated with NBA player Michael Jordan, while Americans elected Chicago’s Barack Hussein Obama its 44th president in 2008. Unrelated: “Cousin RAYmond” ep. of Chicago-set 1970s sitcom “Good Times”, the 132nd of 133 total eps.; July 19, 1965 Chicago-born sportscaster Stuart Scott’s “Pookie, Ray-Ray”

[GWhiz99]

Haitian-descendant, one-time Chicago-based TV journalist Roland Sebastian Martin(m. Rev. Jacquie HOOD) was born NOV. 14, 1968—33rd b’day of Jordan’s King Hussein. Chicago is associated with NBA player Michael Jordan, while Americans elected Chicago’s Barack Hussein Obama its 44th president in 2008 with only four years experience in national politics.Unrelated: “Cousin RAYmond” ep. of Chicago-set 1970s sitcom “Good Times”, the 132nd of 133 total eps.; sportscaster Stuart Scott’s “Pookie, Ray-Ray”

[GWhiz99]

watch?v=DneHIDDFMpY: Bill Cosby links NFL QB Tim Tebow & good weather for 3/31/12 Denver date. Cosby doesn’t seem tech-savvy. Still, I wonder what he thinks about the possibility of voter fraud via electronic voting as companies like Diebold(pronounced “Dee”,not DIE) gaining popularity. On NBC’s 1/11/09 “Meet The Press with David Gregory”, he talked of pride in a SHElburnE Falls, Mass voting booth with photos of his parents & brother James, selecting Denver-nominated Barack Hussein Obama in 2008

[scrappymetal1]

besides wearing a suit and being able to read a teleprompter obama is just a ghetto nigger that stole the presidency , he don't belong in the white house , he belongs in a crack house , or in gitmo for treason.

[scrappymetal1]

Angry Colored Organization Of Retarded Negroes = ACORN

[joeasmythe]

acorn is still around, obama knows it, the FBI knows it, but in this PC country, the frauds and cheats in acorn are not brought to justice. Wake ip America

[GWhiz99]

ACORN voter fraud probably not in Nicolle Wallace's "It's Classified", in witch Charlotte Kramer is 1st female president w/VP Tara Meyers. Unrelated: 1600 Union Cross; screening “Kings Ransom” at 1600 W. HOWARD—like 2001's “Planet of the Apes”. Still, CHICAGO author Sowell knew a Tara whose dad was an amputee. Unrelated to major malls: no Pizza Hut and JENNy SEAgrove (b. JULY 4, 1957,Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia; partner Bill kenWRIGHT) in “The Guradian” as only screening in the city for 4-year period

[GWhiz99]

ACORN voter fraud probably not in Nicolle Wallace's "It's Classified", where Charlotte Kramer is 1st female president w/VP Tara Meyers. Unrelated: screening “Kings Ransom” at 1600 W. HOWARD—like “Planet of the Apes” (2001). Still, CHICAGO author Sowell knew a Tara whose dad was an amputee. Unrelated to major malls or SEAgroves shooting 239-43-1382 and Clifton Taft Hester: JENNy SEAgrove(b. JULY 4, 1957,Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia) in “The Guradian” as only screening in the city the for 4-year period

[GWhiz99]

ACORN voter fraud probably not in Nicolle Wallace's "It's Classified", where Charlotte Kramer is president w/VP Tara Meyers. Unrelated: screening “Kings Ransom” at 1600 W. HOWARD—like “Planet of the Apes” (2001). Still, CHICAGO author Sowell knew a Tara whose dad was an amputee. Unrelated to major malls or SEAgroves shooting 239-43-1382 /Superior Court Judge J.B. Allen presiding: JENNy SEAgrove(b. 7/4/57,Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia)in “The Guradian” as only screening in the city the for 4-year period

[GWhiz99]

Barack Hussein Obama was born on the 10th b’day of “Jumping Jack Flash” (starred WHOOPI Goldberg) actress Sara Botsford: 8/4/61.The film has Jonathan PRYCE as Jack and Peter Michael Goetz as James Page. Peter is presumably no kin to 1984 NYC subway shooter BERNhard Hugo Goetz, but played Dr. Farmer in the “Fakin’ It” ep. of sitcom “Arrested Development” and Dr. HaddASSi in the “Makin’ Whoopie” ep. of sitcom “Ellen”, with openly gay comedienne DeGeneres. Unrelated: erection killing ray attack

[GWhiz99]

Barack Hussein Obama was born on the 10th b’day of “Jumping Jack Flash” actress Sara Botsford: 8/4/61.The film has Jonathan PRYCE as Jack and Peter Michael Goetz as JAMES PAGE. Peter is presumably no kin to 1984 NYC subway shooter BERNhard Hugo Goetz, but played Dr. Farmer in the “Fakin’ It” ep. of sitcom “Arrested Development”, airing 2/10/06. Unrelated:creed or genital ray beam attack; animated BECKy Botsford on “Word Girl” evoking BECKer; malls; Columbus, GA City Councilor Jerry "Pops" Barnes

[GWhiz99]

Clackamas County, Oregon Judge Robert D. HERnDON handed down sentences to Nestor Gabriel Caballero Gutierrez and two co-conspirators in the kidnap, burglary & robbery attempt against Columbia Sportswear Chair Gert Boyle. A ROBERT D. HERnDON (b.June 1944)is at 1600 REDWOOD, Canby, OR 97013.Unrelated: 1600 Union Cross; screening “Kings Ransom” at 1600 W. HOWARD—like 2001’s “Planet of the Apes” or President Charlotte Kramer’s VP in Nicolle Wallace’s novel; Meryl Streep’s birth on some granny's 30th

[GWhiz99]

No alleged voter fraud or war crimes, but 66th Columbus, GA mayor Bob Poydasheff lost 2006 re-election bid to the city’s Chief of Police, Jim Wetherington, an ex-commissioner of Georgia Dept. of Corrections. Still, Poydasheff attended Hague Academy of International Law in the Netherlands. Unrelated to small town police or botching inane high school “boasting” assignments: public directories show a Robert S. Poydasheff at 3575 Macon, Columbus, GA 31907; R S Poydasheff at 3407 Ethel, COLUMBUS, GA

[GWhiz99]

No voter fraud or war crimes allegations, but 2006 Columbus, GA City Council District #1 race saw 12-year incumbent Nathan Suber lose in a runoff to challenger Jerry “Pop” Barnes. Barnes retained the seat in a 2010 rematch. Barnes’ 3720 HawaII Way Columbus, GA address evokes Barack Hussein Obama’s boyhood in HawaII. District 2 on the council is held by ex-MLB Houston Astros/Baltimore Orioles 1B Glenn Earl Davis, who belted an 11th HR of the 1988 season on 5/30/88. Unrelated: watch?v=7pkiaXc0gfo

[GWhiz99]

Clackamas County, Oregon Judge Robert D. HERnDON presided in the sentencing of Nestor Gabriel Caballero Gutierrez and two co-conspirators in the kidnap, burglary & robbery attempt against Columbia Sportswear Chair Gert Boyle. The ringleader called the trio "very desperate idiots." Public directories show a ROBERT D. HERNDON (b. June 1944) at 1600 REDWOOD, Canby, OR 97013. Unrelated: 1600 Union Cross; blue nylon-blend practice shorts or ex-MLB Columbus, GA City Councilor GLENN Earl Davis

[GWhiz99]

Clackamas County, Oregon Judge Robert D. HERnDON presided in the sentencing of Nestor Gabriel Caballero Gutierrez and two co-conspirators in the kidnap, burglary & robbery attempt against Columbia Sportswear Chair Gert Boyle. A ROBERT D. HERNDON (b. June 1944) is at 1600 REDWOOD, Canby, OR 97013. Unrelated: screening “Kings Ransom” at 1600 W. HOWARD—like 2001’s “Planet of the Apes” (opened on MLB 3B Alex Rodriguez’s 26th b’day: 7/27/01)—is unrelated to D.C.'s 1600 Pennsylvania

[BarryDead]

Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) gave ACORN another $461,086 in January. The funds were earmarked for ACORN Housing Corp. in January under HUD’s Self-help Homeownership Opportunity Program (SHOP), according to the government website USAspending.gov.

In order words, the Obama administration gave fraud-ridden ACORN nearly a half million dollars to be used on housing development.

[Razor8472]

They steal elections so they can steal more of your money.

[izzyplaywow]

eh scary

[wombchakra]

get with it, kids..you're a year behind and in the interim james has really messed his britches, now hasn't he? All he can plead is ignorance, which isn't surprising.

[Bezz80]

ACORN cleared. FOX pimp going to jail. All the lies are exposed. The racist teabaggers are such great Americans, right up there with OBL. Domestic terrorists, all are suspect.

[ParaBlood]

lol Acorn - CROOKS & Obama = BIGGER CROOK check out this new documentary its RIGHT on! Search Youtube for::: FALL OF THE REPUBLIC

[Loganstanners]

Just as a note to you morons whining about this now, this entire "Fraud" thing stemmed from the fact that under law, ACORN was required to submit all voter registration forms including those that they themselves had even flagged as fraudulent, it was never actualy a real issue it was just blown way out of proportion by conservative media just to try and put out a major story, there was no substance to it at all. PS I'm not a Democrat

[Nathano27]

@Loganstanners hmm,... well do you have an explanation for the story about the pimp and prostitute that acorn was helping to get around paying taxes and when he said he was bringing underage kids from another country to pimp them saying they could list them as dependents.

[Nathano27]

ok well I can now see that you will not discuss things all you want to to is put down whoever is against you which is typical with your type so you can kiss my ass

[lollipopfop]

I can't believe Obama lied like that. Ive seen videos of him giving motivational speeches to Acorn. He totally has ties to them, and its not some voter registration law. He is such a liar.

[rosshowell]

ACORN has been accused of many things with embezzlement, fraud in Hurricane Katrina, obviously a Democrat advocacy machine funded by taxpayer money, a part of the intimidation and lobbying to create the FannieMae/FreddieMac financial disaster. Liberals have been wanting to ignore all of the individual problems, but they now must declare that they want to protect the criminals because they are their criminals or call for an investigation including IG Walpin fired for uncovering AmeriCorps corrup

[decentdad]

How can you call this right wing propaganda? Invalids that can't spell the word "vote" are now registered to vote. Prisoners who have lost the right to vote are voting. This is an unfortunate tragedy. They need to change the voter laws and give an IQ test first. Many of the morons that cast the Obama ballot voted for skin color instead of a platform. Now we have blacks running around thinking Obama's gonna' give me sumthin' !!!! What a joke !!!!

[wombchakra]

this vid is a year old..the facts are in - no one on the voter reg. lists (which were turned in BY ACORN to authorities at the time they discovered the fake names) ever voted - don't let the facts get in the way of a good rant..your kids will despise you if you keep thinking you're right w/out checking the facts...no respect for dad, even if he is trying to be decent. Update your argument.

[wombchakra]

They already loathe you for your obvious racism...it's just gonna get worse. Try to hide it when you're around their friends of color.

[Nathano27]

@wombchakra wow , really? Look at Acorn as a whole. How many times have they been investigated by the FBI? How many undercover videos do they have to make for you to open your eyes that these are bad people?

[wombchakra]

@Nathano27 : as i said before, you're not paying attention to the facts. Expand your television viewing and research before responding with hearsay and lies. Stop being a lazy shill..or at least get on their payroll, schmuck.

[LesPaulCustom79]

@Nathano27 ACORN stands for this slogan:

(A)ll (C)ommunist (O)rganized into (R)evolutionary (N)uts

The light has been turned on in the kitchen and all the ACORN cockroaches are scurrying under the refrigerator and the stove back into the dark.

"If ACORN is breaking up, then it must be corrupt!"

[BenkaiDebussy]

@LesPaulCustom79 hahaha! i like to make things up also!

I swear to god, conservatives have the minds of children. "Nobama lol you see it's like 'no' combined with 'Obama' I am so witty!" It's like somewhere along the way their brains just stopped growing and they never developed the capability fo higher thought.

[wombchakra]

Breitbart is bad..go see him i think he wants you.

[LesPaulCustom79]

@wombchakra No ILLEGAL ACORN registered names voted, that's real funny, because in Georgia they found over 23,000 illegal Acorn registered votes and Obama still lost in Georgia. In Georgia if you DO NOT have a Georgia Driver's License with photo or 2nd ID, a Voter Registration Card proving that you are authorized to vote at a particular precinct, YOU DON'T VOTE, period.

[wombchakra]

@LesPaulCustom79 Drop it - it's a dead issue. Breitbart's been outed again - until his next phony and badly edited video. All your elections are stolen at the proprietary sourced software level - it was exposed in some smart aleck's written binary language and it was found! This is all way above your level of understanding and interest. I understand though, you are lost in your cracker heaven communing with your fellow peckerwoods so... see ya!

[LesPaulCustom79]

@wombchakra If the Republicans control the voting software programs at the source level, then why is Obama-lamma-so-dumb-a-fumbla President? Wouldn't McCain be President if that were true.

[wombchakra]

@LesPaulCustom79 The numbers were too overwhelming. You can play dumb on this, but the truth is that Obama actually had more votes than were reported, if there were a verifiable paper trail for the 2008 count. Many states don't want to use paper scanner ev machines that leave a paper ballot to verify later. You are willfully ignorant, as most men are, considering things you don't want to believe.

[LesPaulCustom79]

@wombchakra 70% of the Independents WILL NOT vote for Obama/Socialism in the next election. 100% of the Republicans sure as hell aren't going to vote for him. 50% of the Democrats are pissed off at him. November 6, 2012, the "End of an ERROR." See yah, bye Obama!!!

[wombchakra]

@LesPaulCustom79 I didn't vote for him in the last election - I didn't have to because i'm registered in a decidedly blue state. Sorry to burst your bubble, but i vote my convictions and don't really parrot what others tell me to repeat. I am a true independent - you wouldn't know one if it ran over your foot. Now go tell your mother she wants you.

[LesPaulCustom79]

@wombchakra My mother is deceased, you moronic piece of shit!!!

[wombchakra]

@LesPaulCustom79 It's a quote, fool. How would i possibly know, btw? You have shown your inability to respond to anything but your infantile ability to appeal to sympathy and/or lying in the absence of rational argument...so, wherever she is, go tell her. Exactly. Now keep up the cursing, baby.

[LesPaulCustom79]

@wombchakra Give it a rest, you dumbass, unadultered, imbecilic, moronic, idiot !!!

[wombchakra]

@LesPaulCustom79 LOL.. you mean "unadulterated" 

[Zeno1999]

@LesPaulCustom79 < He already brought so much "change" as he promised so deserve early retirement package :

Permanent residence at the Gilligan's island. We'll get him best mosque builders from Saudi Arabia too.

[concordat]

@LesPaulCustom79 congratulations you don't know what socialism is.

keep on thinking obama is far-left if you want, but the reality is that he is a centrist.

[ancestralyuba]

McCain was right.

[blender124]

1:36 to 1:38 a lot of new voters. Voters like Mickey Mouse, Superman, Batman and 3 year olds. I heard a report that super hero characters were registered through Acorn and a couple of three year olds that were registered like 10 times each.

[badgerblitz]

way to generalize dumbass, I see plenty of blacks mexicans, and asians who despise Obama. Check out my video about the tea party, it wasnt an all white hate rally, hard working farmers(predominately mexicans) and blacks all came down to voice their concern. You are the racist one, you ignorant piece of sht. Open your eyes

[michael38921]

a couple guys recently went into a state DMV (where they employee only genius level citizenry, of course) and videotaped themselves getting a dozen licenses each, under phony names, just by wearing wigs and obvious disguises. Ok so thats about how hard it is to commit fraud, in person (which one would think might be harder than simply passing off bogus documents).

No standards, no accountability.

[jblcva]

Acorn is a criminal enterprise.

[mkf1959]

DEMAND A NEW ELECTION AMERICAN,, without any Acorn ballots!

[crescentaluna]

1) ACORN is a great organization which increases participation in democracy, pure and simple.

2) Diebold anyone? Or does voter fraud "not count" if the numbers are in the tens of thousands? Oh yeah ... stealing elections is OK if your last name is Bush ... right?

[nikkowinter]

All ACORN has done for my family is to teach people how to not pay rent this has cost me personally 10s of thousands of dollars. I know others as well. You are the ones that help cause racism in America. After hearing Bertha fail to answer the questions referring to opening up the books they are sacred why? What do they have to hide? I would bet that if a full investigation we done it would point straight to David Hamilton from ACORN (7th dist Court of Appeals) appointed by Obama him self!

[redicedragon]

Acorn is a fraudulent organization and should not be in operation none the less geting funds from taxpayers.

[rockriver256]

hussien LIES--you bes right joe wilson

[tfustudios]

This is all right wing PR folks, don't fall for it!

[TranCendenZ]

ACORN workers were caught on hidden cameras helping to set up child prostitution rings. No more of our tax dollars should go towards that corrupt sick organization ACORN. The Senate has already voted to defund ACORN.

[Conan568]

Good.

Shut Acorn down, and prosecute.

Oh and have another election, the last was an absolute travesty and to see something like that happen in the USA is scary.

Obama was crowned Prez by the media and Celebtards with the help of groups like Acorn and the Black Panthers.

Nice to see him crashing so quickly though.

Better Obama than the country.

[goodall77]

It's a good day for America we are finally wakeing up.

[TheVirabhadra]

Acorn is a radical group that takes orders from obama,they go out and do counter rally's against people questioning obama.

[DarthCybie]

Obama voters sold their country for some "change"

[acutemaniadotnet]

Barakmoud Obamadinejad!

[oldcrone66]

do ppl know that acorn is a fraud .

[shooter348]

I'm sure the Kenyan in chief put a stop to any investigations into Acorn. I saw he gave them a nice $4 billion payback in the stimulus bill. I guess that they're worth it though if they can get one guy to vote for you 32 times, besides it's only taxpayer money anyway.

[MentalExpansion]

obama as of today has 16 possibly more law suits against him because he was not born in any damn state on US soil. HES fucking kenyen. His grandma when interviewed fucked up and her daughters and sons *obamas brothers and sisters! start trying to tell them she was lying and didnt know what she was talking about!. why wont america wake up and smell the fema camps. damn.

[Soberguysknowsbest]

Please Help Bring Nation-Wide Attention to Obama's Citizenship!!

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[OOhU2A]

Does anyone really believe this election is going to be legit?

[acanawuppazz]

Fake registrations don't translate into to gauranteed votes for Obama. The ACORN phony registrations were done by people wanting to get paid for not doing work ACORN hired them to do. Just because someone registers to vote doesn't mean they will vote for Obama. Obama isn't dumb enough to cheat in this manner to get votes. ACORN are the ones who got cheated by the workers who turned in fake names and duplicate registrations.

[chimphunter]

After the New Mexico Republican Party claimed that fraudulent voters, registered by ACORN, participated in the June 2008 primary, ACORN contacted some of the voters Republicans said were bogus. The voters that the Republicans named were quickly reached Thursday night. All are eligible first-time voters. Their legitimacy was confirmed by the Bernalillo County Clerk. All expressed outrage that the Republican Party is targeting them. So much for the alleged 'voter registration fraud'.

[Avatarblackwolf]

OH BOO HOO!!!....Nobama is a fraud & eveyone knows it.

[onecelticwarrior]

If you dont like living here,get the fuck out.

[mpshields]

If you dont like living here,get the fuck out.

...Yes....ship niggers back to Africa now!!!!

[ShamontielVaughn]

If you want a refund from people who didn't even ask to be here and were brought (probably) by your ancestors, then I'd suggest you take that anger up with your own crew, not us. Anyway, while I could stomach trying to have a rationale conversation with therandman1, I can't really take you seriously because it's more ranting than actual valid points. This is exactly why I have mixed views about America. You can't ignore the ignorance in it, such as yourself. So this conversation is dead.

[ShamontielVaughn]

I don't know shit about history because I'm not talking about Muslims? That wasn't the point of any of my previous debate; it was to talk about American history. Regardless, whatever you say.

[USAJuly4th1776]

Compensation is you living in the USA instead of Africa, and us having to stand looking at your monkey face every fucking day.

Drop dead.

[ShamontielVaughn]

That's exactly the type of attitude that makes me realize that not much has changed since the days of slavery. USAJuly4th1776, you need help. There's really nothing I can say to someone who is so incredibly pathetic that they can't have an intelligent conversation and instead sinks to calling people out of their names because they don't have the vernacular or the skill level to hold a conversation with someone unlike themselves. I don't humor ignorance.

[GiovannaNYC]

Star - you're right . Why does EVERYTHING fall in the laps of Americans. I guess guilt is supposed to make everyone open their wallets and Americns should also bear the guilt of the whole world. I don't feel guilty. Hell we didn't even land yet..lmao

[ShamontielVaughn]

*shaking my head* A mind is a terrible thing to waste.

[4QQ1Q2Q3Q4Q]

Obama is a white supremacist KKK Nazi socialist scumbag.

[WKaliber1]

McCain sucks

[therandman1]

Believe me I am no racist, racism is the most hateful in today's society, I firmly believe in what this country was founded on, capitalism, pursuit of happiness, and the protection of wealth and property. And black society is more enabled to take part in that than ever before.

How do you feel about Clarence Thomas? And I'm referring to the present, not his radical years.

[phonixwk69]

The ACORN doesn't fall far from the Obama tree!

[1freedomfighter1]

if there wasnt voter fraud and media supresion, Ron Paul would be the next presadent of the USA.

[livelyhick]

therandman1 you are right and its refreshing to see someone understand this. and for warnomore50 you are being racist against a white person because he doesnt support obama. are we suppose to let a few african americans president before we are allowed to vote for white ppl again without being white trash.

[therandman1]

Ireland decreased their corporate tax to 11 percent - their economy started expanding at 3x the rate. There were more jobs, more money to go around.. more production, more demand.. the quality of life improved! thats what McCain wants to do. he wants to close corporate loop holes and decrease taxes for them. then they wont go over seas WITH OUR JOBS.. this country needs to limit spending and decrease taxes. winning quickly in Iraq and becoming energy independent is crucial.

[therandman1]

whatever happened to the American attitude? Bust your ass capitalism.. work hard go to school improve yourself learn a trade make investments start a company bust your ass capitalism? Now with Obama, hundreds of thousands of Americans are going to stand around with there thumbs up their asses, and the other hand? the other hand is being held out waiting for a free stipend from the government, COURTESY of the wealthy - the ones who actually INVEST, SPEND, EMPLOY, START BUSINESSES.

[ShamontielVaughn]

The American attitude?! America got rich off of 400 years worth of free labor, killing majority of a race of people by stealing their land and not paying one dime to do it. You better dust off those history books!

[therandman1]

Also, anyone notice that Obama says something new every goddamn week? and it all involves spending spectacular amounts of money.. hes buying votes, trying to appeal to the lower classes of the US.. let me just say something.. it may sound crude, but if we pay too much attention to the lower class, we lose the capitalistic nature of this country, and our economy goes to pure shit. its marxism, socialism, truly scary.

[ShamontielVaughn]

Spectacular amounts of money that are already there and will be reverted to programs that work instead of chopping up programs that don't. It makes no sense to waste away money for things that are not successful. Too much attention to the lower class? That has to be the most elitist thing I've ever heard. The problem is we NEVER pay attention to the lower class in order to build them up to middle class.

[therandman1]

what are you suggesting? that successful and hard working Americans take the responsibility for what American society did to minorities (natives and blacks) in the 17th, 18th, and 19th centuries? This white guilt garbage is insulting to today's innocent hard working Americans. What do we have to do with slavery or the trail of tears? granted-TERRIBLE corrupt times in our nations history, but you cannot suggest we start paying for it TODAY. get over it. I can tell you follow secular progressives

[ShamontielVaughn]

I'm suggesting that American history did not derive from all of the hardwork of those with old, rich money and quite a large percentage of the lower class would not be lower class if their businesses had had the opportunity to succeed (prime example: Black Wall Street). The bombing, imprisonment, and mistreatment of Black millionaires who did get up by their bootstraps were robbed. Americans were not all on this imaginary equal footing.

[therandman1]

whether you realize it or not, the philosophy you are engaged in follows the likes of the secular progressive movement - extremely liberal, so far left that they aren't even considered liberal democrats,we define them as MARXISTS. very scary and very dangerous group..the ACLU is the main proponent. The lower class have the option of moving up, they are on the very low end of the progressive tax system - what they need to do is better themselves, learn a skilled trade! doesn't have to be college!

[ShamontielVaughn]

You can call it what you want, but if skilled trades are being shipped overseas, fat chance of that happening. You can put me in whatever category you like (Liberal, Marxist, Democrat), but that doesn't change history.

[therandman1]

Why are skilled trades being shipped overseas? We have the 2nd highest corporate tax in the WORLD. Corporations send jobs to places where they will be able to earn a larger profit. Like Ireland.

[therandman1]

I am suggesting that the lower class not settle for the WELFARE system, my grandparents were poor - my dad is a combat veteran who dropped out of college and my mother never went to college, considering this, you calling me an elitist means nothing. My father got back from Vietnam and went back to school, my mother worked her ASS off and worked her way up the social ladder. my point - they did not come from wealthy backgrounds, but they knew what being a US citizen meant - WORK HARD, SUCCEED.

[ShamontielVaughn]

Slaveowners on our money did not work hard to succeed. You don't find it slightly disturbing that we have rapists on money we spend everyday? We debate about money with criminals on it, and nobody thinks that's odd. The whole American system is really f--ked up.

[therandman1]

there you go again with slavery, SLAVERY IS NO MORE. IT DOESN'T HOLD IN TODAY'S SOCIETY. WHITE GUILT. why are you turning this into a question of race and slavery? African Americans need to stop the bitter resentment of well of whites, and start focusing on success. being bitter doesn't help a black families chances of climbing up the social ladder. Quit bitching, toughen up, and get on your horse.

[ShamontielVaughn]

Middle class family. Master's student. Full-time job. Never been on welfare. Hate to break it to you, but I've been on my own horse my entire life as well as both sides of my family. However, regardless of my upbringing, I don't turn a deaf ear to those who didn't luck out. It's not about white guilt. It's simple history. Black Wall Street would've done a complete service to American society and Black wealth. America was not built off of hard work from people with old wealth. It was slavery.

[therandman1]

well your story is my story - and I'm afraid it isn't luck, you worked your ass off. As did I. I understand that we both have different ideals regarding success in the United States. And since you bring up the education background, I hold a BS in economics - haven't decided weather I should go after my MBA or join the Navy.

I understand the predicament black society was put in after slavery, its a hateful thing. But its unreasonable to suggest African Americans today need compensation.

[ShamontielVaughn]

I am not trying to say that every African American must be compensated, but people like the Leesburg Stockade and those alive from Black Wall Street should receive SOMETHING. I honestly think those who survived Jim Crow should too. They are still alive--my 96-year-old aunt and 76-year-old grandfather just to name two. As far as luck, I know I would not have been able to have my own place, go to three colleges, etc. without my parents' help. If someone doesn't have that backing, it's difficult.

[GiovannaNYC]

Compensation for slavery ru kidding???

[ShamontielVaughn]

Nope, didn't laugh one bit through 400 years of free labor historical lessons. Old money millionaires were compensated. Why not give compensation to the families of slaves?

[GiovannaNYC]

Thats ridiculous. Do you also want compensation from the Arabs and Africans, etc.?

[ShamontielVaughn]

The Africans? The Africans are who I'm talking about were kidnapped, beaten, whipped and forced into slave labor. I'm not having the reparations debate tonight. It's already been covered. Read my other comments, including the part about Leesburg Stockade; Jim Crow; presidents as rapists; Black Wall Street; old money to those who didn't earn it (the American way) but now criticizing those who are getting free money as well. Very Republican.

[GiovannaNYC]

Africans sold and used their own people as slaves

[ShamontielVaughn]

Yes, and they did it in much the same way as an indentured servant. You worked for a time and were free. The slavery that involved whippings, stripping religion; language; and culture, cutting off feet and penises, raping slaves, changing last names, spraying with hoses, and the Middle Passage can all be thanked by the United States of America. And that STILL doesn't excuse what was done. When Africans sold their slaves, they thought it would be the same kind of servitude, not what it turned out

[GiovannaNYC]

Shamontie-You are so wrong. Mutulation, rape and killing is alive and well in parts of Africa & the Middle East

[ShamontielVaughn]

Yes, I do realize that. "Essence" magazine did full stories on how women are terrified to leave their own homes for fear of being raped and killed. However, I was talking about American slavery. Please read my other comments to find out why.

[ShamontielVaughn]

By the way, I wasn't mentioning school to brag. I was saying that because in an earlier comment you said something about getting on my horse. I got the impression you assumed I was on welfare and that's why I was defending those who are. I know some people who do not deserve it and some who are completely irresponsible when it comes to their sex lives. I don't believe everyone deserves assistance. But I do believe we wouldn't be in this predicament if not for racism.

[therandman1]

and you missunderstood what i meant about not paying attention to the lower class: Instead of giving them free handouts, we MUST keep taxes extremely now for them, and at the same time, lower taxes for the wealthy and middle class and limit spending, the direct reaction from this is more jobs and more money, more chances for the lower class to advance in society - if we keep on giving them a free lunch (welfare and tax credits), they'll never get off their asses and find gainful employment.

[ShamontielVaughn]

Free handouts? If people on welfare were just sitting around chilling with welfare living the good life, they wouldn't be living in poverty-stricken areas, scared to send their children to school, with 11 locks on the door. Have you ever even BEEN to the hood? It seems like you're getting your information from commercials and Fox News.

[therandman1]

did i say they were living the GOOD LIFE.. the problem is, they're content with recieving a welfare check every month, they live off of welfare and receive tax credits as well as subsidized rent. Why do you think welfare ruined the black family? the more kids a mother has, the more welfare one gets! that's why mothers in black families are running around with 12 kids, and the father(S) are long gone, no where to be found. Terrible injustice by the government, happened to white families too.

[ShamontielVaughn]

Wrong again! The lack of sex education and male role models is why babies are having babies, not for monetary purposes. Fathers are long gone because of lack of male role models, lack of jobs, dropout rates, and the crack vs. cocaine jail sentencing. Nobody is CONTENT on welfare. I know several people who have been on welfare. They are embarrassed to have to resort to it. Your whole outlook sounds like hearsay. Sit down and talk to some of these people you feel you have so much knowledge about.

[therandman1]

What I stated is an obvious factual situation and predicament black society faces, it is acknowledged, even among liberals. I can see you're stubborn, probably a little bitter for some reason. Go to work, go get educated, read a book. So long and good luck.

and by the way, a study done by UCLA proved that fox news is the most objective news network on cable

[ShamontielVaughn]

It's amazing how people can tell me about these factual studies when they know nothing of the culture. That's like me saying what goes on in a Mormon church. If I've never been there, I wouldn't know. Stubborn, I am. Bitter, not at all. I have no reason to be, but I don't ignore history. I'm already at work, wrote two books, and I've already told you about the degrees. Nastiness doesn't change history. Fox News lies repeatedly, and they always get caught. Studies are objectionable.

[therandman1]

Someone please tell me: what have our forefathers fought for? Limited taxes and Representation, preservation of the Union, CAPITALISM, Free market and free trade. THE AMERICAN DREAM. Obama is so far left he appeals to terrorist organizations like the Hamas. Wanting to take money away from hard working american's and spreading it around is socialism.. 95 percent of american's get tax credits?? only 45 percent of fucking american's PAY TAXES. an Obama administration will truly be an unstable time.

[Warnomore50]

Take your medicine. It might give you some side effects that you don't like but it will keep you from wasting other peoples time with crazy comments.

[Warnomore50]

Thank you so much cumcatcher. Even though you hate me you keep proving that I am right about you being a stupid, crazy, fool. Makes no sense to me why someone would do that but as long as you are willing to make a fool out of yourself I will post comments to give you the excuse to make a fool of yourself.

[Warnomore50]

Crazy cat f guy is back cumcatcher. I will spend all the time it takes to expose you for the crazy piece of white trash that you are.I don't think anyone is stupid enough to fuck you unless you pay them but please wear a rubber so you don't create more stupid white trash.

[GiovannaNYC]

John McCain, take note. Obamas tie to Wright is no longer a purely personal question about one mans choice of his pastor. The fact that Obama funded extremist Afrocentrists who shared Wrights anti-Americanism means that this is now a matter of public policy, and therefore an entirely legitimate issue in this campaign.

[ShamontielVaughn]

How about you actually attend Trinity before you talk about some YouTube videos you saw?

[GiovannaNYC]

Yeah they did a great job, my ass. Prosecute them all and throw the book at them. Democrats will go to any lengths to get votes.

[ShamontielVaughn]

Wow, so Bush won legitimately, right? Please!